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=== ''Ultimate Alien'' ===
=== ''Ultimate Alien'' ===


* ''[[Ben 10: Ultimate Alien|Ben 10 Ultimate Alien]]'' already has one at the beginning of the second episode, in which Ben, while busy stopping the Forever Knights in an alien tech tank from robbing a museum, gets called by Gwen. Gwen has apparently decided that a tennis match is more important than stopping the Forever Knights from damaging artifacts, endangering lives, and getting some unknown thing. Then, everyone makes a huge deal of his showing up at the tennis match. She acts like it's his fault, claiming he made a grand entrance when all he did was walk in with his ticket. It was the ''announcer'' who made a big deal over his walking in.
* ''[[Ben 10: Ultimate Alien|Ben 10 Ultimate Alien]]'' already has one at the beginning of the second episode, in which Ben, while busy stopping the Forever Knights in an alien tech tank from robbing a museum, gets called by Gwen. Gwen has apparently decided that a tennis match is more important than stopping the Forever Knights from damaging artifacts, endangering lives, and getting some unknown thing. Then, everyone makes a huge deal of his showing up at the tennis match. She acts like it's his fault, claiming he made a grand entrance when all he did was walk in with his ticket. It was the ''announcer'' who made a big deal over his walking in.
* In the third episode, Kevin starts suggesting that they should kill villains that go after Ben's family. Now, this was probably done to make an overdue connection between post [[Heel Face Turn]] Kevin and pre [[Heel Face Turn]] Kevin, who was quite violent. The problem is that this isn't ''his'' family they're talking about! Kevin would be concerned for Ben's family, yes; but having ''him'' feel murderous anger toward the villains going after them when Ben and Gwen (who have reasons) don't? Killing his father's killer was one thing. Threatening to kill villains who aren't harming him on a personal level is another.
* In the third episode, Kevin starts suggesting that they should kill villains that go after Ben's family. Now, this was probably done to make an overdue connection between post [[Heel Face Turn]] Kevin and pre [[Heel Face Turn]] Kevin, who was quite violent. The problem is that this isn't ''his'' family they're talking about! Kevin would be concerned for Ben's family, yes; but having ''him'' feel murderous anger toward the villains going after them when Ben and Gwen (who have reasons) don't? Killing his father's killer was one thing. Threatening to kill villains who aren't harming him on a personal level is another.
** In that same episode, Charmcaster is working for Zombozo as little more than a [[Mook]]. Given what we've seen of her before and especially given what we see of her later, this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
** In that same episode, Charmcaster is working for Zombozo as little more than a [[Mook]]. Given what we've seen of her before and especially given what we see of her later, this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
* Speaking of Kevin and killing, he went crazy. As a result, Ben decides that he needs to be "put down". OK, WHAT?! Firstly, since when does Ben actively try to kill his enemies? Secondly, two episodes prior, Ben had a heartwarming talk with Kevin about how he's like an older brother to him. But he shows practically no inner conflict about killing Kevin!
* Speaking of Kevin and killing, he went crazy. As a result, Ben decides that he needs to be "put down". OK, WHAT?! Firstly, since when does Ben actively try to kill his enemies? Secondly, two episodes prior, Ben had a heartwarming talk with Kevin about how he's like an older brother to him. But he shows practically no inner conflict about killing Kevin!
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** Also, the reason Kevin went crazy. It's not because of his past as a sociopath or his troubled youth or any temptation to cross over to the "dark side". Nope, it's because his species goes insane whenever they absorb energy. Nothing bad he did then or now is his fault at all. What? Really, writers, is that the ''best'' explanation you can come up with for a character pulling a [[Heel Face Turn]] '''AND''' [[Face Heel Turn]]?
** Also, the reason Kevin went crazy. It's not because of his past as a sociopath or his troubled youth or any temptation to cross over to the "dark side". Nope, it's because his species goes insane whenever they absorb energy. Nothing bad he did then or now is his fault at all. What? Really, writers, is that the ''best'' explanation you can come up with for a character pulling a [[Heel Face Turn]] '''AND''' [[Face Heel Turn]]?
* Then came the season finale. Not only are the Andromeda aliens killed by Aggregor inexplicably revived; not only is Darkstar [[Villain Decay|decayed as a threat]]; but also, after all that angst and [[Wangst]] concerning Kevin, Ben and Gwen fighting over what to do with him, Kevin committing atrocities, etc.... Kevin is restored to sanity, an apology and [[Easily Forgiven|instant forgiveness follows]], and everything is [[Status Quo Is God|back to normal with the team.]] '''Really?''' Kevin just apologizes, and Ben forgives him after wanting to kill him so much? Gwen forgives him for raping...er, draining her of her powers? Kevin forgives Ben for wanting to kill him? He forgives HIMSELF for all he's done? No-one wanted Kevin to die; but if you're writing an epic, serious storyline, then you have to have ''consequences''!
* Then came the season finale. Not only are the Andromeda aliens killed by Aggregor inexplicably revived; not only is Darkstar [[Villain Decay|decayed as a threat]]; but also, after all that angst and [[Wangst]] concerning Kevin, Ben and Gwen fighting over what to do with him, Kevin committing atrocities, etc.... Kevin is restored to sanity, an apology and [[Easily Forgiven|instant forgiveness follows]], and everything is [[Status Quo Is God|back to normal with the team.]] '''Really?''' Kevin just apologizes, and Ben forgives him after wanting to kill him so much? Gwen forgives him for raping...er, draining her of her powers? Kevin forgives Ben for wanting to kill him? He forgives HIMSELF for all he's done? No-one wanted Kevin to die; but if you're writing an epic, serious storyline, then you have to have ''consequences''!
* Hey, wasn't it ''stated'' by the characters that the big thing to work on after the Aggregor (and then Kevin) situation was over with was finding a way back to the [[Magical Land]] to help [[Anti-Villain|Charmcaster?]] Why aren't we even getting a ''mention'' of that being worked on in Season 2?
* Hey, wasn't it ''stated'' by the characters that the big thing to work on after the Aggregor (and then Kevin) situation was over with was finding a way back to the [[Magical Land]] to help [[Anti-Villain|Charmcaster?]] Why aren't we even getting a ''mention'' of that being worked on in Season 2?
** Oh, [[It Gets Worse]]. When they finally ''do'' get around to it, Charmcaster undergoes ungodly [[Character Derailment]]. Suddenly, [[Idiot Ball|wanting to bring her father back]] [[Motive Decay|is her life's motivation rather than freeing her world]], and is willing to [[Moral Event Horizon|commit mass genocide on her own world]] to do it! And all that progress she and Gwen made in their relationship? Charmcaster [[Snap Back|doesn't bring it up at all]]. In fact, she temporarily KILLS Gwen, the very thing she decided that she didn't want to do anymore in "Where The Magic Happens"! [[Status Quo Is God]], eh, Ben 10 writers?
** Oh, [[It Gets Worse]]. When they finally ''do'' get around to it, Charmcaster undergoes ungodly [[Character Derailment]]. Suddenly, [[Idiot Ball|wanting to bring her father back]] [[Motive Decay|is her life's motivation rather than freeing her world]], and is willing to [[Moral Event Horizon|commit mass genocide on her own world]] to do it! And all that progress she and Gwen made in their relationship? Charmcaster [[Snap Back|doesn't bring it up at all]]. In fact, she temporarily KILLS Gwen, the very thing she decided that she didn't want to do anymore in "Where The Magic Happens"! [[Status Quo Is God]], eh, Ben 10 writers?
** Also, Charmcaster's father Spellbinder (and it's a wallbanger in of itself that he, a single soul, has to be ressurected with 600,000) gives his daughter a [[What the Hell, Hero?]] speech when he learns what she did, which is well deserved....but it's ''also'' terribly, needlessly harsh and cruel without any sort of understanding shown on Spellbinder's part. "[[Moral Event Horizon|How could you do something so evil?]] [[Complete Monster|You're worse than Adwaitya ever was!]]" That's right, Spellbinder, just ignore all reasoning as to ''why'' your daughter did this. Ignore that she was left alone in the care of her [[Abusive Parents|abusive uncle]] throughout her life, that she was later stuck in this hellish realm for who knows how long, and that [[Evil Power Vacuum|everyone tried to kill each other (and likely her) in an attempt to claim power after Adwaitya was deposed.]] Never mind how traumatized Hope's going to be when you say all this and then go back to being dead ''immediately afterward'', with no words of encouragement for her to redeem herself, no reassurance that she's truly not as evil as the guy who killed you if she does so, or that things will get better for her even without you. But I guess [[True Art Is Angsty]], so just let your daughter suffer! [[Sarcasm Mode|What wonderful parenting!]]
** Also, Charmcaster's father Spellbinder (and it's a wallbanger in of itself that he, a single soul, has to be ressurected with 600,000) gives his daughter a [[What the Hell, Hero?]] speech when he learns what she did, which is well deserved....but it's ''also'' terribly, needlessly harsh and cruel without any sort of understanding shown on Spellbinder's part. "[[Moral Event Horizon|How could you do something so evil?]] [[Complete Monster|You're worse than Adwaitya ever was!]]" That's right, Spellbinder, just ignore all reasoning as to ''why'' your daughter did this. Ignore that she was left alone in the care of her [[Abusive Parents|abusive uncle]] throughout her life, that she was later stuck in this hellish realm for who knows how long, and that [[Evil Power Vacuum|everyone tried to kill each other (and likely her) in an attempt to claim power after Adwaitya was deposed.]] Never mind how traumatized Hope's going to be when you say all this and then go back to being dead ''immediately afterward'', with no words of encouragement for her to redeem herself, no reassurance that she's truly not as evil as the guy who killed you if she does so, or that things will get better for her even without you. But I guess [[True Art Is Angsty]], so just let your daughter suffer! [[Sarcasm Mode|What wonderful parenting!]]
* Bringing Elena Validus and her father from the live action movie into the TV show [[Back for the Dead|just to kill them off]]. Seriously, what the hell? Julie being blatantly made out to be better than Elena in the episode also makes this a possible case of [[Derailing Love Interests]].
* Bringing Elena Validus and her father from the live action movie into the TV show [[Back for the Dead|just to kill them off]]. Seriously, what the hell? Julie being blatantly made out to be better than Elena in the episode also makes this a possible case of [[Derailing Love Interests]].
** Oops, looks like Elena's not dead, she's back as a complete [[Yandere]] villain now, ''still'' being used as an [[Evil Counterpart]] to Julie, and willing to kill her and Ben. They're even making it clear that this is ''Elena'' doing this, NOT just the Swarm Queen possesing her. There's no "possible case" about it now, this '''is''' [[Derailing Love Interests]].
** Oops, looks like Elena's not dead, she's back as a complete [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] villain now, ''still'' being used as an [[Evil Counterpart]] to Julie, and willing to kill her and Ben. They're even making it clear that this is ''Elena'' doing this, NOT just the Swarm Queen possesing her. There's no "possible case" about it now, this '''is''' [[Derailing Love Interests]].
* Pierce is killed by the Forever Knights, just so that they can be a bigger threat now. Such a casual throwing away of a character....it's a male version of [[Stuffed in The Fridge]]! Oh, and [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment|no-one ever finds out about it, and it's not spoken of again.]]
* Pierce is killed by the Forever Knights, just so that they can be a bigger threat now. Such a casual throwing away of a character....it's a male version of [[Stuffed in The Fridge]]! Oh, and [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment|no-one ever finds out about it, and it's not spoken of again.]]
* Ben's defeat of a monster made from the "trash island" in the Pacific Ocean, after it's moved to the coast of San Francisco to get more trash. Since it's a [[Blob Monster]] he can't beat it conventionally. Then he sees that the waves in the ocean are eroding it. This inspires him to do the only logical thing: use Way Big (a giant alien) to run in a circle around the monster fast enough to create a tornado that ''hurls it into space on course for the Sun''. This series has never been good with the laws of physics and tends to abuse [[New Powers as the Plot Demands]], but this solution came right the fuck out of nowhere, kicked physics in the nuts, and pretty much gave a middle finger to any sense of rationality. Worst of all, it's a complete tangent to the observed weakness Ben was presumably trying to exploit.
* Ben's defeat of a monster made from the "trash island" in the Pacific Ocean, after it's moved to the coast of San Francisco to get more trash. Since it's a [[Blob Monster]] he can't beat it conventionally. Then he sees that the waves in the ocean are eroding it. This inspires him to do the only logical thing: use Way Big (a giant alien) to run in a circle around the monster fast enough to create a tornado that ''hurls it into space on course for the Sun''. This series has never been good with the laws of physics and tends to abuse [[New Powers as the Plot Demands]], but this solution came right the fuck out of nowhere, kicked physics in the nuts, and pretty much gave a middle finger to any sense of rationality. Worst of all, it's a complete tangent to the observed weakness Ben was presumably trying to exploit.
* Vilgax's [[Not So Different]] speech toward Ben in the series finale. ''Really''? Are we seriously supposed to believe that Ben is ''anything'' like Vilgax even though there's been no evidence of that at all before?
* Vilgax's [[Not So Different]] speech toward Ben in the series finale. ''Really''? Are we seriously supposed to believe that Ben is ''anything'' like Vilgax even though there's been no evidence of that at all before?



== ''Codename: Kids Next Door'' ==
== ''Codename: Kids Next Door'' ==
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* The fact that Double D is usually punished with Ed and Eddy. It's usually almost never his fault.
* The fact that Double D is usually punished with Ed and Eddy. It's usually almost never his fault.
* "Postcards from the Ed": In that one, both Ed AND Edd are punished for ''Eddy's'' (and ''Eddy's'' alone) scam killing Plank's parents. In fact, both of the former tried to stop the latter. However, once Johnny 2x4 has discovered the accidental "murder", ALL THREE are literally up a tree, surrounded by mugsters Plank knows. While Eddy ([[Jerkass|as usual]]) deserved it, and Ed being punished could be justified as "betraying" Johnny's trust, EDD did ''absolutely NOTHING'' to deserve this retribution. He even tried to STOP him, as said before. But of course, like said before, he receives an [[Disproportionate Retribution|unjustified]] [[Dude, Not Funny|punishing]].
* "Postcards from the Ed": In that one, both Ed AND Edd are punished for ''Eddy's'' (and ''Eddy's'' alone) scam killing Plank's parents. In fact, both of the former tried to stop the latter. However, once Johnny 2x4 has discovered the accidental "murder", ALL THREE are literally up a tree, surrounded by mugsters Plank knows. While Eddy ([[Jerkass|as usual]]) deserved it, and Ed being punished could be justified as "betraying" Johnny's trust, EDD did ''absolutely NOTHING'' to deserve this retribution. He even tried to STOP him, as said before. But of course, like said before, he receives an [[Disproportionate Retribution|unjustified]] [[Dude, Not Funny|punishing]].
* The Halloween episode. Ed went around kicking the kids' asses because he saw one too many horror movies; Edd and Eddy STILL GET HURT BY IT. Eddy didn't even have a scam that episode; he just wanted to go to Spook-E-Ville. Double D did nothing wrong, as usual.
* The Halloween episode. Ed went around kicking the kids' asses because he saw one too many horror movies; Edd and Eddy STILL GET HURT BY IT. Eddy didn't even have a scam that episode; he just wanted to go to Spook-E-Ville. Double D did nothing wrong, as usual.
** And worst of all they didn't attack Ed whom was responsible for their injuries in the first place.
** And worst of all they didn't attack Ed whom was responsible for their injuries in the first place.


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* In Seasons 6 and 7, [[Character Derailment|Tootie was changed from a sympathetic character who suffered the same plight as Timmy to yet another annoyance/enemy that he has to face every day]].
* In Seasons 6 and 7, [[Character Derailment|Tootie was changed from a sympathetic character who suffered the same plight as Timmy to yet another annoyance/enemy that he has to face every day]].
* Mr. Crocker was unable to recognize Cosmo, Wanda, and Poof as real fairies in the episode "Take & Fake." Let's repeat that: '''[[Evil Teacher|Mr.]] [[The Cassandra|Crocker]]''' was unable to tell that '''FAIRY GODPARENTS!!!''' were floating right in front of him. Sure, they're at a costume party...but that's no excuse, considering that Crocker, of all people, should be able to recognize a fairy right away.
* Mr. Crocker was unable to recognize Cosmo, Wanda, and Poof as real fairies in the episode "Take & Fake." Let's repeat that: '''[[Evil Teacher|Mr.]] [[The Cassandra|Crocker]]''' was unable to tell that '''FAIRY GODPARENTS!!!''' were floating right in front of him. Sure, they're at a costume party...but that's no excuse, considering that Crocker, of all people, should be able to recognize a fairy right away.
** Furthermore, he doesn't recognize Poof even though the episode takes place '''after''' "Bad Heir Day." Earth to Denzel, you know Denzel Jr. AKA DJ, aka Poof? That fairy whom you raised briefly as your own son and formed a loving bond with? [[Punctuated for Emphasis|He's! Floating! RIGHT! IN! FRONT! OF! YOU!]]
** Furthermore, he doesn't recognize Poof even though the episode takes place '''after''' "Bad Heir Day." Earth to Denzel, you know Denzel Jr. AKA DJ, aka Poof? That fairy whom you raised briefly as your own son and formed a loving bond with? [[Punctuated! For! Emphasis!|He's! Floating! RIGHT! IN! FRONT! OF! YOU!]]
* In "Playdate of Doom", Foop escapes from Abracatraz and tricks Cosmo and Wanda into thinking that Jorgen authorized his release and that he's reformed and ready for a playdate with Poof. He then spends the episode tricking them into thinking Poof is misbehaving so they'll [[It Makes Sense in Context|put Poof in a playpen that will send him to a pocket dimension]]. That Cosmo and Wanda would trust Foop, who had previously tried to destroy two worlds and ''kill'' Poof, anywhere near their son based on the (nonexistent) word of ''Jorgen'' destroys their credibility as parents. They never once suspect that Foop might be behind everything. Timmy finds out quickly and tries to warn them. Newsflash, Wanda, you're the [[Only Sane Man|Only Sane Being]] of this show, not Timmy!
* In "Playdate of Doom", Foop escapes from Abracatraz and tricks Cosmo and Wanda into thinking that Jorgen authorized his release and that he's reformed and ready for a playdate with Poof. He then spends the episode tricking them into thinking Poof is misbehaving so they'll [[It Makes Sense in Context|put Poof in a playpen that will send him to a pocket dimension]]. That Cosmo and Wanda would trust Foop, who had previously tried to destroy two worlds and ''kill'' Poof, anywhere near their son based on the (nonexistent) word of ''Jorgen'' destroys their credibility as parents. They never once suspect that Foop might be behind everything. Timmy finds out quickly and tries to warn them. Newsflash, Wanda, you're the [[Only Sane Man|Only Sane Being]] of this show, not Timmy!
* Crocker gets '''another''' one of these in the episode "Teacher's Pet". The episode itself was bad enough (seriously, what's with the mix-n-match critters instead of, ya know, [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot|an episode about being Crocker's pet?]]); but the BIGGEST [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] is in the beginning when Crocker praises AJ for being a good student and then berates Timmy for being a poor student. This is '''[[Evil Teacher|Mr.]]''' '''[[Sadist Teacher|Crocker]]''' we're talking about, right!? The SAME Mr. Crocker who used to love making kids miserable and handed out "F"s with absolute sadistic glee?! [[Character Derailment|What happened to ya, man?]]
* Crocker gets '''another''' one of these in the episode "Teacher's Pet". The episode itself was bad enough (seriously, what's with the mix-n-match critters instead of, ya know, [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot|an episode about being Crocker's pet?]]); but the BIGGEST [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] is in the beginning when Crocker praises AJ for being a good student and then berates Timmy for being a poor student. This is '''[[Evil Teacher|Mr.]]''' '''[[Sadist Teacher|Crocker]]''' we're talking about, right!? The SAME Mr. Crocker who used to love making kids miserable and handed out "F"s with absolute sadistic glee?! [[Character Derailment|What happened to ya, man?]]
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== ''Family Guy'' ==
== ''Family Guy'' ==
'''BEFORE YOU EDIT THIS FOLDER'''- As ''[[Family Guy]]'' entries tend to attract this kind of complaining: This is not a place to complain about the [[Seasonal Rot]]. Nor to complain about [[Seth MacFarlane]]'s directing. It is a place for those particular moments within the show you felt were truly horrible, idiotic, or insulting. If you feel that moment was the absolute low point for the show, please see the [[Dethroning Moment of Suck/Family Guy|Dethroning Moment of Suck]] page for ''Family Guy''. In particular, please try to avoid commenting on the decline in episode quality. Yes, these entries are symptoms of that, but this isn't the place for it, and it only drags the page down.
'''BEFORE YOU EDIT THIS FOLDER'''- As ''[[Family Guy]]'' entries tend to attract this kind of complaining: This is not a place to complain about the [[Seasonal Rot]]. Nor to complain about [[Seth MacFarlane]]'s directing. It is a place for those particular moments within the show you felt were truly horrible, idiotic, or insulting. If you feel that moment was the absolute low point for the show, please see the [[Family Guy/Dethroning Moment of Suck|Dethroning Moment of Suck]] page for ''Family Guy''. In particular, please try to avoid commenting on the decline in episode quality. Yes, these entries are symptoms of that, but this isn't the place for it, and it only drags the page down.


* Everything about "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" (particularly the A-story where Meg becomes a born-again Christian after watching a religious show starring Kirk Cameron) has angered a lot of tropers. To list the specifics would take up too much time and space, so ''[[Family Guy]]'' has its own [[Dethroning Moment of Suck]] page [[Dethroning Moment of Suck/Family Guy|here]] dedicated to this episode (and other dethroning moments of suck). Please list them here.
* Everything about "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" (particularly the A-story where Meg becomes a born-again Christian after watching a religious show starring Kirk Cameron) has angered a lot of tropers. To list the specifics would take up too much time and space, so ''[[Family Guy]]'' has its own [[Dethroning Moment of Suck]] page [[Family Guy/Dethroning Moment of Suck|here]] dedicated to this episode (and other dethroning moments of suck). Please list them here.
* The episode "Stew-roids" had two wall bangers:
* The episode "Stew-roids" had two wall bangers:
** First, Buff Stewie (what else can you call him?) has next to no development and was just an excuse for jokes. [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]].
** First, Buff Stewie (what else can you call him?) has next to no development and was just an excuse for jokes. [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]].
** Second, why did ''Connie'' become popular again after Chris' downfall when it was ''Neil'' who orcheastrated it?
** Second, why did ''Connie'' become popular again after Chris' downfall when it was ''Neil'' who orcheastrated it?
* [[Seth MacFarlane]] ought to be glad he didn't have much to do with the episode "McStroke" -- he was participating in the writers' strike of 2007-2008 at the time, and [[Fox]] finished the episode and aired it without Seth's permission (which MacFarlane has called a "colossal dick move"). "McStroke" has a parade of facepalm moments. Following an awkward non-joke about stem cell treatment, Peter crusades to bring down the restaurant where he pigged out on hamburgers and gave himself a stroke. Brian mentions Peter's own culpability exactly once; it never comes up again, not even when a judge throws out his lawsuit (it's because the business has a superb legal team, natch, although a case this ridiculous shouldn't have required their services). Then they visit the McBurgerTown corporate headquarters to find... a slaughterhouse? Okay, we'll chalk it up to [[Rule of Funny]] here, because surely they're building up to something hilarious, right? But then they meet a cow who tells them of the horrors perpetrated against his species by restaurant chain, and they use his testimony to bring down the company. '''WHAT!?''' How does that work? Who watching this show -- or even ''in'' the show -- didn't already know that beef comes from cows? The revelation that a fast food company uses meat that fresh should instantly quadruple their business! [[Rule of Funny]] utterly fails to cover this because it isn't funny. It's just ''stupid''.
* [[Seth MacFarlane]] ought to be glad he didn't have much to do with the episode "McStroke" -- he was participating in the writers' strike of 2007-2008 at the time, and [[FOX]] finished the episode and aired it without Seth's permission (which MacFarlane has called a "colossal dick move"). "McStroke" has a parade of facepalm moments. Following an awkward non-joke about stem cell treatment, Peter crusades to bring down the restaurant where he pigged out on hamburgers and gave himself a stroke. Brian mentions Peter's own culpability exactly once; it never comes up again, not even when a judge throws out his lawsuit (it's because the business has a superb legal team, natch, although a case this ridiculous shouldn't have required their services). Then they visit the McBurgerTown corporate headquarters to find... a slaughterhouse? Okay, we'll chalk it up to [[Rule of Funny]] here, because surely they're building up to something hilarious, right? But then they meet a cow who tells them of the horrors perpetrated against his species by restaurant chain, and they use his testimony to bring down the company. '''WHAT!?''' How does that work? Who watching this show -- or even ''in'' the show -- didn't already know that beef comes from cows? The revelation that a fast food company uses meat that fresh should instantly quadruple their business! [[Rule of Funny]] utterly fails to cover this because it isn't funny. It's just ''stupid''.
** Hell, if a restaurant used meat that fresh, that would be the main focus of their advertising.
** Hell, if a restaurant used meat that fresh, that would be the main focus of their advertising.
** However, all this was saved by [[Crowning Moment of Funny|the mustache sequence]]. Why couldn't the whole episode have just kept its focus on that?
** However, all this was saved by [[Crowning Moment of Funny|the mustache sequence]]. Why couldn't the whole episode have just kept its focus on that?
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** Also, Lois acts all hurt and tearful about the amnesiac Peter becoming a bachelor because he can't remember their commitment, saying that being married is supposed to mean "being faithful". Yeeeah, what about at the beginning of the episode, where LOIS, under NO amnesia and in front of Peter, kisses the host of "Family Feud" and tells him "I wanna be your wedding ring" in a sexual voice. [[Double Standard|So Lois can be unfaithful to Peter, but Peter can't be unfaithful to her afterward?]] Especially given that Peter has an ''excuse'', while Lois has none? That the episode is expecting us to feel sorry for Lois and ignore her [[Hypocrite|hypocrisy]] is a big Wallbanger.
** Also, Lois acts all hurt and tearful about the amnesiac Peter becoming a bachelor because he can't remember their commitment, saying that being married is supposed to mean "being faithful". Yeeeah, what about at the beginning of the episode, where LOIS, under NO amnesia and in front of Peter, kisses the host of "Family Feud" and tells him "I wanna be your wedding ring" in a sexual voice. [[Double Standard|So Lois can be unfaithful to Peter, but Peter can't be unfaithful to her afterward?]] Especially given that Peter has an ''excuse'', while Lois has none? That the episode is expecting us to feel sorry for Lois and ignore her [[Hypocrite|hypocrisy]] is a big Wallbanger.
* Much has been said about Quagmire's [["The Reason You Suck" Speech]] to Brian on this wiki. It is related to the [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] that is the hypocrisy of Glen Quagmire. Quagmire tears a strip off Brian for abandoning his son, hitting on Lois, and only liking women for their bodies. But Quagmire's abandoned hundreds of illegitimate children, rooted through Lois's trash and stolen her hair and undergarments, and committed multiple rapes of both the "regular" and statutory kind. And where the hell does Quagmire get off beating up Brian for having sex with his transgender father? Brian didn't know that was Glen's father! And that relationship was consensual. There should be any number of people who would want to do to Quagmire what Quagmire did to Brian...
* Much has been said about Quagmire's [["The Reason You Suck" Speech]] to Brian on this wiki. It is related to the [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] that is the hypocrisy of Glen Quagmire. Quagmire tears a strip off Brian for abandoning his son, hitting on Lois, and only liking women for their bodies. But Quagmire's abandoned hundreds of illegitimate children, rooted through Lois's trash and stolen her hair and undergarments, and committed multiple rapes of both the "regular" and statutory kind. And where the hell does Quagmire get off beating up Brian for having sex with his transgender father? Brian didn't know that was Glen's father! And that relationship was consensual. There should be any number of people who would want to do to Quagmire what Quagmire did to Brian...
** Note well: in the very same episode, when Quagmire's sister is getting beaten by her boyfriend, Quagmire runs outside to yell at Brian over his sister getting beaten. He's blaming Brian for something that isn't his fault without motivation, and chewing Brian out is more important to him than trying to rescue his own sister.
** Note well: in the very same episode, when Quagmire's sister is getting beaten by her boyfriend, Quagmire runs outside to yell at Brian over his sister getting beaten. He's blaming Brian for something that isn't his fault without motivation, and chewing Brian out is more important to him than trying to rescue his own sister.
*** Wasn't the point Quagmire was making not that that Brian does all of those things, but that he acts intellectually and morally superior to everyone all the time in spite of them? That's one thing Quagmire himself ''doesn't'' do. The fact that he himself acknowledges his flaws and asks him "what gives you the right to judge anyone?" does seem to support this.
*** Wasn't the point Quagmire was making not that that Brian does all of those things, but that he acts intellectually and morally superior to everyone all the time in spite of them? That's one thing Quagmire himself ''doesn't'' do. The fact that he himself acknowledges his flaws and asks him "what gives you the right to judge anyone?" does seem to support this.
**** And he's not "a big alcoholic bore" either. Then again one could argue that having Quagmire lampshade the show's flaws has involved ironically diluting his personality and making him an [[Author Avatar]] too (his voice pitch even seems to convert more into Brian's throughout the speech amusingly enough). Also note the speech is about the one element in his resentment that isn't caused by [[Kafka Komedy]] (e.g. "Quagmire's Dad"). It's not really a justified [[Take That Scrappy]] if you're punishing a character for actions that aren't connected to their flaws or even their fault.
**** And he's not "a big alcoholic bore" either. Then again one could argue that having Quagmire lampshade the show's flaws has involved ironically diluting his personality and making him an [[Author Avatar]] too (his voice pitch even seems to convert more into Brian's throughout the speech amusingly enough). Also note the speech is about the one element in his resentment that isn't caused by [[Kafka Komedy]] (e.g. "Quagmire's Dad"). It's not really a justified [[Take That Scrappy]] if you're punishing a character for actions that aren't connected to their flaws or even their fault.
* The episode "Jungle Love". This episode extends Lois's abusive behavior to Chris. She spends a good minute trying to convince Chris to tolerate school and realize it's not all bad, and then baits him to Freshmen-targeting high schoolers the minute he sets foot on school grounds. Granted, Lois's character these days is inconsistent and dependent on [[Comedic Sociopathy]], but it's hard to take the Aesop the episode is handing us seriously after that. (Though, since this is ''[[Family Guy]]'', that may be the point).
* The episode "Jungle Love". This episode extends Lois's abusive behavior to Chris. She spends a good minute trying to convince Chris to tolerate school and realize it's not all bad, and then baits him to Freshmen-targeting high schoolers the minute he sets foot on school grounds. Granted, Lois's character these days is inconsistent and dependent on [[Comedic Sociopathy]], but it's hard to take the Aesop the episode is handing us seriously after that. (Though, since this is ''[[Family Guy]]'', that may be the point).
* The entire episode "Padre de Familia" (which was one of the episodes [[Seth MacFarlane]] didn't do because of the 2007-2008 Writer Guild of America strike). Peter is fired from his job because he is an illegal immigrant, even though 1) his mother is American and 2) he's married to a citizen of America.
* The entire episode "Padre de Familia" (which was one of the episodes [[Seth MacFarlane]] didn't do because of the 2007-2008 Writer Guild of America strike). Peter is fired from his job because he is an illegal immigrant, even though 1) his mother is American and 2) he's married to a citizen of America.
** Don't forget the [[Fridge Logic]] that Peter had to have shown that he was a citizen many years earlier for say, his driver's license, or something like that. Not the best thought out episode ever. Still, it had its funny points.
** Don't forget the [[Fridge Logic]] that Peter had to have shown that he was a citizen many years earlier for say, his driver's license, or something like that. Not the best thought out episode ever. Still, it had its funny points.
* There's a moment in the episode "Friends of Peter G." in which Brian said that people were fine without religion for years, followed by a cutaway in which people lived peacefully, but started slaughtering each other after the birth of Jesus was announced. This flashback has two Wall Bangers: first, that it implies that there was no religion before the birth of Jesus, and second, that religion is the cause of all evil. Seriously, no amount of [[Rule of Funny]] can't save such a massive [[Critical Research Failure]].
* There's a moment in the episode "Friends of Peter G." in which Brian said that people were fine without religion for years, followed by a cutaway in which people lived peacefully, but started slaughtering each other after the birth of Jesus was announced. This flashback has two Wall Bangers: first, that it implies that there was no religion before the birth of Jesus, and second, that religion is the cause of all evil. Seriously, no amount of [[Rule of Funny]] can't save such a massive [[Critical Research Failure]].
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** In the "Japan didn't quit" multiverse, why would everyone be stuck in the Edo era? Did nobody involved in production realize that Japan was only able to threaten the Pacific rim in [[World War II]] '''because''' they abandoned samurai and Westernized so rapidly? An American family enculturated by an invading Japan would bear more resemblance to a non-invaded American family of the same time than to a Japanese family from the pre-Meiji eras. And why would everyone end every sentence with "da yo"? It'd be roughly equivalent to shouting every sentence and ending it with "DUH!" or [[Totally Radical|"MAN, TOTALLY!"]] in English.
** In the "Japan didn't quit" multiverse, why would everyone be stuck in the Edo era? Did nobody involved in production realize that Japan was only able to threaten the Pacific rim in [[World War II]] '''because''' they abandoned samurai and Westernized so rapidly? An American family enculturated by an invading Japan would bear more resemblance to a non-invaded American family of the same time than to a Japanese family from the pre-Meiji eras. And why would everyone end every sentence with "da yo"? It'd be roughly equivalent to shouting every sentence and ending it with "DUH!" or [[Totally Radical|"MAN, TOTALLY!"]] in English.
*** Just be glad they [[What Could Have Been|didn't]] choose the polite version. {{spoiler|[[Memetic Mutation|"Desu"]].}}
*** Just be glad they [[What Could Have Been|didn't]] choose the polite version. {{spoiler|[[Memetic Mutation|"Desu"]].}}
** [[Walt Disney]] was not outspokenly anti-Semitic, did not ally himself with the Nazis (and [http://antagonie.blogspot.com/2010/11/disney-sundries-film-that-won-war.html may have actually helped win World War II]), and employed Jews on his staff. Granted, his vision of America was steeped in a conservative and strongly Christian light, and according to [[Wikipedia|The Other Wiki]], the rumors of anti-Semitism sprang up due to his membership in a reactionary filmmaker's organization, but there's no evidence that he himself championed anti-Semitic philosophies. And given how nobody seems to care when the show normally tries to humiliate or kill Mort (e.g., [[Sarcasm Mode|everyone's favorite]] [[Dude, Not Funny|Schindler's List joke]]), why would it be a deal-breaker here for an otherwise-perfect universe? Although...there were a couple Walt Disney Productions that leaned on popular ethnic stereotypes of the time, and [[Sarcasm Mode|thankfully, Family Guy has never sunk that low for a laugh.]]
** [[Walt Disney]] was not outspokenly anti-Semitic, did not ally himself with the Nazis (and [http://antagonie.blogspot.com/2010/11/disney-sundries-film-that-won-war.html may have actually helped win World War II]), and employed Jews on his staff. Granted, his vision of America was steeped in a conservative and strongly Christian light, and according to [[Wikipedia|The Other Wiki]], the rumors of anti-Semitism sprang up due to his membership in a reactionary filmmaker's organization, but there's no evidence that he himself championed anti-Semitic philosophies. And given how nobody seems to care when the show normally tries to humiliate or kill Mort (e.g., [[Sarcasm Mode|everyone's favorite]] [[Dude, Not Funny|Schindler's List joke]]), why would it be a deal-breaker here for an otherwise-perfect universe? Although...there were a couple Walt Disney Productions that leaned on popular ethnic stereotypes of the time, and [[Sarcasm Mode|thankfully, Family Guy has never sunk that low for a laugh.]]
** Don't forget the "we'd be living in the Future right now if Christianity never existed." Uh, time out, here...<br />1. Christianity actually helped PRESERVE lost Roman sciences and arts during the Dark Ages.<br />2. The biggest cause of the Dark Ages was the burning of the Library of Alexandria by the Muslim caliphate and the destruction of the Roman Empire, both of which set back centralized research and development several centuries.
** Don't forget the "we'd be living in the Future right now if Christianity never existed." Uh, time out, here...<br />1. Christianity actually helped PRESERVE lost Roman sciences and arts during the Dark Ages.<br />2. The biggest cause of the Dark Ages was the burning of the Library of Alexandria by the Muslim caliphate and the destruction of the Roman Empire, both of which set back centralized research and development several centuries.
*** On the other hand, the Muslims preserved a lot of science and advanced scientifically while Europe didn't, and Muslim knowledge came back to Europe during the Crusades, which was what helped lead them out of the Dark Ages.
*** On the other hand, the Muslims preserved a lot of science and advanced scientifically while Europe didn't, and Muslim knowledge came back to Europe during the Crusades, which was what helped lead them out of the Dark Ages.
** In the "People/Dog role reversal universe", apparently what 'breed' of dog you are is completely random, regardless of the 'breed' of your parents. That would be like the coupling of a white man and black woman giving birth to a Japanese baby.
** In the "People/Dog role reversal universe", apparently what 'breed' of dog you are is completely random, regardless of the 'breed' of your parents. That would be like the coupling of a white man and black woman giving birth to a Japanese baby.
** Ok, in one gag of the episode, Brian and Stewie end up in a Flintstones-esque universe with Peter as Fred and Lois as Wilma. The joke? Nothing but "rock" puns. Um, the writers of the show do know that ''[[The Flintstones]]'' was essentially ''[[The Honeymooners]]'' [[Recycled in Space|with cavemen]], right? It wasn't just "Rock Puns".
** Ok, in one gag of the episode, Brian and Stewie end up in a Flintstones-esque universe with Peter as Fred and Lois as Wilma. The joke? Nothing but "rock" puns. Um, the writers of the show do know that ''[[The Flintstones]]'' was essentially ''[[The Honeymooners]]'' [[Recycled in Space|with cavemen]], right? It wasn't just "Rock Puns".
*** Also, Stewie's and Brian's reaction of utter boredom and annoyance at the Flintstones-esqe universe. Uh, writer's of ''[[Family Guy]]''? You do realize that ''[[The Flintstones]]'' was the [[Long Runners|longest-running]] cartoon sitcom for ''years'' until ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'' came and beat that record, pretty much paving the way for night-time cartoon sitcoms of the future. Without that kind of success, your show probably would've never existed in the first place.
*** Also, Stewie's and Brian's reaction of utter boredom and annoyance at the Flintstones-esqe universe. Uh, writer's of ''[[Family Guy]]''? You do realize that ''[[The Flintstones]]'' was the [[Long Runners|longest-running]] cartoon sitcom for ''years'' until ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'' came and beat that record, pretty much paving the way for night-time cartoon sitcoms of the future. Without that kind of success, your show probably would've never existed in the first place.
* "Seahorse Seashell Party" had one of the most sadistic [[Yank the Dog's Chain]] in animation history. After finally standing up to her family and calling them all out for being terrible, sadistic, and downright abusing human beings, she looks back on the following breakdown and starts to show regret for ''saying exactly what they've needed to be told for a long time now''. Ultimately she comes to realize that [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|if your family's going to tear each other apart without you being the focus of their abuses, it's okay to not stand up for yourself.]] [[Punctuated for Emphasis|What.]] [[Dude, Not Funny|The.]] [[Precision F-Strike|Fuck]].
* "Seahorse Seashell Party" had one of the most sadistic [[Yank the Dog's Chain]] in animation history. After finally standing up to her family and calling them all out for being terrible, sadistic, and downright abusing human beings, she looks back on the following breakdown and starts to show regret for ''saying exactly what they've needed to be told for a long time now''. Ultimately she comes to realize that [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|if your family's going to tear each other apart without you being the focus of their abuses, it's okay to not stand up for yourself.]] [[Punctuated! For! Emphasis!|What.]] [[Dude, Not Funny|The.]] [[Precision F-Strike|Fuck]].
* "The Father, The Son, and The Holy Fonz" has a scene that has Peter, Francis, and Brian sharing some common ground by stating how much they dislike Madonna. Now, disliking someone due to personal choices they've made in their lives, fine. A bit harsh, but, nothing too serious. But, the wall banger comes in when the group calls Madonna a "liar" just because ''La Isla Bonita'' isn't a real place (Peter stated he couldn't find it on a map). [[Sarcasm Mode|Yes, because no one has ever created a fictional location before.]] Oh, except for [[Harry Potter|Hogwarts]], [[Jurassic Park|Isla Nublar (Isla Sorna in later books/films)]], and, oh yeah, '''[[Family Guy|QUAHOG!]]'''
* "The Father, The Son, and The Holy Fonz" has a scene that has Peter, Francis, and Brian sharing some common ground by stating how much they dislike Madonna. Now, disliking someone due to personal choices they've made in their lives, fine. A bit harsh, but, nothing too serious. But, the wall banger comes in when the group calls Madonna a "liar" just because ''La Isla Bonita'' isn't a real place (Peter stated he couldn't find it on a map). [[Sarcasm Mode|Yes, because no one has ever created a fictional location before.]] Oh, except for [[Harry Potter|Hogwarts]], [[Jurassic Park|Isla Nublar (Isla Sorna in later books/films)]], and, oh yeah, '''[[Family Guy|QUAHOG!]]'''
* "Stewie Loves Lois" - Lois finds Peter in the kitchen, and remarks that he looks awful before asking him what happened. He tells her he was raped...and she laughs! [[Dude, Not Funny|yeah]]. This would not be so bad if she had laughed after he explained everything and she realized he mistook his prostate exam for sexual molestation. Laughing right after the phrase "I was raped" is uttered by a clearly distraught Peter though makes it seem like she finds the notion of Peter getting raped funny, and that's just wrong.
* "Stewie Loves Lois" - Lois finds Peter in the kitchen, and remarks that he looks awful before asking him what happened. He tells her he was raped...and she laughs! [[Dude, Not Funny|yeah]]. This would not be so bad if she had laughed after he explained everything and she realized he mistook his prostate exam for sexual molestation. Laughing right after the phrase "I was raped" is uttered by a clearly distraught Peter though makes it seem like she finds the notion of Peter getting raped funny, and that's just wrong.
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== ''Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius'' ==
== ''Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius'' ==
* [[The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius|Jimmy Neutron]] has fought Chicken egg aliens, living pants, a midget mad scientist, a robot, lots of robot, he has built a robot dog, has a laboratory, breathes in space, fought more aliens, saved the world with a secret agent, stopped a renegade burger restaurant mascot, shrunk down to the size of a bacteria to extract mitochondria from them, went to the depths of ocean, and has done many more, but '''HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!'''
* [[The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius|Jimmy Neutron]] has fought Chicken egg aliens, living pants, a midget mad scientist, a robot, lots of robot, he has built a robot dog, has a laboratory, breathes in space, fought more aliens, saved the world with a secret agent, stopped a renegade burger restaurant mascot, shrunk down to the size of a bacteria to extract mitochondria from them, went to the depths of ocean, and has done many more, but '''HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!'''
** Also, he's a huge dick about it to Carl and others who believe in Santa; Cindy and Libby try to get some justified revenge on him....and '''Santa gives them coal for it in the end.''' And Jimmy saves Christmas from what he [[Designated Hero|AS USUAL]] ''caused himself'', so he gets rewarded and [[Karma Houdini|excused for his behavior earlier.]]
** Also, he's a huge dick about it to Carl and others who believe in Santa; Cindy and Libby try to get some justified revenge on him....and '''Santa gives them coal for it in the end.''' And Jimmy saves Christmas from what he [[Designated Hero|AS USUAL]] ''caused himself'', so he gets rewarded and [[Karma Houdini|excused for his behavior earlier.]]
* The episode where Jimmy builds a jetpack fueled by gold. That's right--a jetpack fueled by a '''valuable, non-renewable resource!'''
* The episode where Jimmy builds a jetpack fueled by gold. That's right--a jetpack fueled by a '''valuable, non-renewable resource!'''
* [[Comically Missing the Point|You mean like a jetpack fueled by...oil?]]
* [[Comically Missing the Point|You mean like a jetpack fueled by...oil?]]
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** And after all ''that'' is over, Cindy says Australia is a continent, but Jimmy [[What an Idiot!|says otherwise]]. Everyone who's at least been through first grade knows that Australia is the only continent that's its own country. Sheesh, and here I thought Jimmy was the ''smart'' guy.
** And after all ''that'' is over, Cindy says Australia is a continent, but Jimmy [[What an Idiot!|says otherwise]]. Everyone who's at least been through first grade knows that Australia is the only continent that's its own country. Sheesh, and here I thought Jimmy was the ''smart'' guy.
*** What? At first grade they told me that Australia is part of a continent named Oceania with New Zealand...
*** What? At first grade they told me that Australia is part of a continent named Oceania with New Zealand...
*** Australia is indeed its own continent and a country, while Oceania refers to the region Australia and New Zealand are in.
*** Australia is indeed its own continent and a country, while Oceania refers to the region Australia and New Zealand are in.




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* The need to worship [[Status Quo Is God|the god of status quo]] also provides us with this one from "Ron Millionaire": {{spoiler|Ron carries around the whole $100m?}} Seriously?
* The need to worship [[Status Quo Is God|the god of status quo]] also provides us with this one from "Ron Millionaire": {{spoiler|Ron carries around the whole $100m?}} Seriously?
** And since Bueno Nacho is still in business after that episode despite the bad publicity it must have received during the Li'l Diablo Incident in "So The Drama," {{spoiler|shouldn't Ron still be receiving royalties?}}
** And since Bueno Nacho is still in business after that episode despite the bad publicity it must have received during the Li'l Diablo Incident in "So The Drama," {{spoiler|shouldn't Ron still be receiving royalties?}}
** Maybe after the incident in the episode, Wade might have set up some kind of account in-between Bueno Nacho and Ron... It could be possible, being a 10 year old supergenius.
** Maybe after the incident in the episode, Wade might have set up some kind of account in-between Bueno Nacho and Ron... It could be possible, being a 10 year old supergenius.
* And then there's the show's finale. For some, it was a [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]]. But when {{spoiler|Ron suddenly awakes his full Mystical Monkey Powers and starts beating the aliens all by himself,}} it just went from bad [[It Got Worse|to worse]]; and it keeps doing that ''even'' when it seemed impossible. It's ''[[Fan Service]]'' of {{spoiler|the most popular character}}, but it isn't [[Character Development]] and doesn't leave a good message. {{spoiler|Ron is suddenly told he's ready; he somehow agrees; and then, suddenly, he's the most kick-ass character of the show, leaving [[Chickification|Kim (and maybe Shego) as nothing but a damsel in distress in the final episode of the show with her own name!]] [[Unfortunate Implications|Almost as if to suggest women can't be good enough to be the real heroes of the story...]]}}
* And then there's the show's finale. For some, it was a [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]]. But when {{spoiler|Ron suddenly awakes his full Mystical Monkey Powers and starts beating the aliens all by himself,}} it just went from bad [[It Got Worse|to worse]]; and it keeps doing that ''even'' when it seemed impossible. It's ''[[Fan Service]]'' of {{spoiler|the most popular character}}, but it isn't [[Character Development]] and doesn't leave a good message. {{spoiler|Ron is suddenly told he's ready; he somehow agrees; and then, suddenly, he's the most kick-ass character of the show, leaving [[Chickification|Kim (and maybe Shego) as nothing but a damsel in distress in the final episode of the show with her own name!]] [[Unfortunate Implications|Almost as if to suggest women can't be good enough to be the real heroes of the story...]]}}
** Many people believe that the ending defines everything that came before it. This finale is about the culmination of Ron Stoppable's [[The Hero's Journey|journey]] -- the implication being that Kim's own story was finished ''before'' the [[Grand Finale]]. (Stupid [[Post Script Season]]...)
** Many people believe that the ending defines everything that came before it. This finale is about the culmination of Ron Stoppable's [[The Hero's Journey|journey]] -- the implication being that Kim's own story was finished ''before'' the [[Grand Finale]]. (Stupid [[Post Script Season]]...)
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** Maybe it's just me, but I assumed the point was that it WASN'T a good thing and that these people are fucked up. The whole time you're supposed to be on Bobby's side about the whole "running away from getting his ass beat" issue.
** Maybe it's just me, but I assumed the point was that it WASN'T a good thing and that these people are fucked up. The whole time you're supposed to be on Bobby's side about the whole "running away from getting his ass beat" issue.
*** Unfortunately, the ending of the episode ruins that. Because when Bobby shows up and allows himself to be beaten by the other team's marching band, its treated as a ''good'' thing, complete with [[Abusive Parents|Hank and Peggy]] watching like proud parents as their son gets mauled, all for the sake of horrific "tradition".
*** Unfortunately, the ending of the episode ruins that. Because when Bobby shows up and allows himself to be beaten by the other team's marching band, its treated as a ''good'' thing, complete with [[Abusive Parents|Hank and Peggy]] watching like proud parents as their son gets mauled, all for the sake of horrific "tradition".
*** What self-respecting school would allow a rival school to defile one of its hallowed symbols, anyway?
*** What self-respecting school would allow a rival school to defile one of its hallowed symbols, anyway?
* I forget the name of the episode, but there's this episode where Bobby sees a magic show and Hank tries to get Peggy to tell him the explanations for all the tricks or something. Anyway, Bobby has to do a project for Sunday school, so he does a magic show called "The Amazing Jesus" to represent Jesus' miracles. And he's ''good'' at it, but after Sunday school Bobby is yelled at by Hank and Peggy for "making a mockery of Jesus." What? Bobby was just being CREATIVE, not making a mockery of Jesus! Heck, it's something you'd EXPECT out of a young boy at a Sunday school! The rest of the Sunday school class even LIKED it, but Hank and Peggy didn't even care how skilled his tricks were or how creative the show was! What the heck?
* I forget the name of the episode, but there's this episode where Bobby sees a magic show and Hank tries to get Peggy to tell him the explanations for all the tricks or something. Anyway, Bobby has to do a project for Sunday school, so he does a magic show called "The Amazing Jesus" to represent Jesus' miracles. And he's ''good'' at it, but after Sunday school Bobby is yelled at by Hank and Peggy for "making a mockery of Jesus." What? Bobby was just being CREATIVE, not making a mockery of Jesus! Heck, it's something you'd EXPECT out of a young boy at a Sunday school! The rest of the Sunday school class even LIKED it, but Hank and Peggy didn't even care how skilled his tricks were or how creative the show was! What the heck?
** Um, you do remember that the end of the scene was Bobby's setup of the crucifixion, right?
** Um, you do remember that the end of the scene was Bobby's setup of the crucifixion, right?
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*** He was going to burn a cross for the trick, which has [[Unfortunate Implications]] in multiple ways.
*** He was going to burn a cross for the trick, which has [[Unfortunate Implications]] in multiple ways.
*** While Bobby managing to re-create Jesus's miracles via magic tricks actually is very creative and doubtlessly took a lot of preparation and practice, there are other implications that can be taken from this. Doing what Jesus did through simple tricks can be taken to mean that Jesus himself was nothing being a con artist (helped along by Bobby melodramatically saying "The Amazing Jesus" before every miracle, which can be taken to sound sarcastic). Although Bobby was totally innocent (and rather creative) in his project, Christians would naturally be offended by such a statement.
*** While Bobby managing to re-create Jesus's miracles via magic tricks actually is very creative and doubtlessly took a lot of preparation and practice, there are other implications that can be taken from this. Doing what Jesus did through simple tricks can be taken to mean that Jesus himself was nothing being a con artist (helped along by Bobby melodramatically saying "The Amazing Jesus" before every miracle, which can be taken to sound sarcastic). Although Bobby was totally innocent (and rather creative) in his project, Christians would naturally be offended by such a statement.
**** If Bobby was SMARTER at the time, instead of [[Too Dumb to Live]], he could have made the project about ''false messiahs'' that existed at the same time as Jesus, showing that while what Jesus did were actual miracles (Like how he didn't need to hide things to make water turn into wine or make a bunch of bread appear), the false messiahs were doing simple tricks that anyone could replicate. But of course, Bobby is a moron in the earlier seasons.
**** If Bobby was SMARTER at the time, instead of [[Too Dumb to Live]], he could have made the project about ''false messiahs'' that existed at the same time as Jesus, showing that while what Jesus did were actual miracles (Like how he didn't need to hide things to make water turn into wine or make a bunch of bread appear), the false messiahs were doing simple tricks that anyone could replicate. But of course, Bobby is a moron in the earlier seasons.
**** Maybe Bobby just didn't know how offensive it was. It's not like Hank and Peggy told him how offensively sarcastic he was being, or told him that there are people who could be offended by that; they just yell at him.
**** Maybe Bobby just didn't know how offensive it was. It's not like Hank and Peggy told him how offensively sarcastic he was being, or told him that there are people who could be offended by that; they just yell at him.
* ''Apres Hank, Le Deluge''- Hank had to save the entire city when the flooding was making the dam nearly break. When he comes to the shelter, Bill, who has gone mad with power, has become shelter leader and calls Hank 'the Arlen Flooder'. The entirety of the people in the shelter are [[Too Dumb to Live]], trusting Bill with their safety, and forgetting, if its not for Hank, ALL OF THEM WOULD BE DEAD. Finally, when the episode ends, Bill becomes a [[Karma Houdini]] and the people are still stupid.
* ''Apres Hank, Le Deluge''- Hank had to save the entire city when the flooding was making the dam nearly break. When he comes to the shelter, Bill, who has gone mad with power, has become shelter leader and calls Hank 'the Arlen Flooder'. The entirety of the people in the shelter are [[Too Dumb to Live]], trusting Bill with their safety, and forgetting, if its not for Hank, ALL OF THEM WOULD BE DEAD. Finally, when the episode ends, Bill becomes a [[Karma Houdini]] and the people are still stupid.
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* One episode deals with Bobby getting into Tarot cards. Hank, of course, is horrified. Bobby makes friends with a guy at a store who is into Tarot cards. Do we get an aesop about how people who try strange things can be normal? Nope, the guy turns out to be a loser who lives in his mom's basement, dresses up in wizard robes, tries to cast magic spells, and is friends with a bunch of other guys who seem to be just as pathetic as him. By the end of the episode, Bobby realizes how uncool they are and insults them with Hank. It doesn't help that when he left the group, they all tried to destroy him just by saying a spell that included the words "Destroyitcus Bobbyus". Yep, Hank is proven right again because as we all know, ''Hank is always right''.
* One episode deals with Bobby getting into Tarot cards. Hank, of course, is horrified. Bobby makes friends with a guy at a store who is into Tarot cards. Do we get an aesop about how people who try strange things can be normal? Nope, the guy turns out to be a loser who lives in his mom's basement, dresses up in wizard robes, tries to cast magic spells, and is friends with a bunch of other guys who seem to be just as pathetic as him. By the end of the episode, Bobby realizes how uncool they are and insults them with Hank. It doesn't help that when he left the group, they all tried to destroy him just by saying a spell that included the words "Destroyitcus Bobbyus". Yep, Hank is proven right again because as we all know, ''Hank is always right''.
** Another walbanger is that the LARP group actually believe in what they're doing going so far as to try and make Bobby drink dog's blood as a ritual. This goes beyond unbelievable and falls into [[Chick Tract]] and [[Mazes and Monsters]] levels of stupidity. Do the writers of KOTH even know what LARP groups or [[Dungeons and Dragons]] players are really like? Because, they certainly are '''not''' like the people portrayed in this episode.
** Another walbanger is that the LARP group actually believe in what they're doing going so far as to try and make Bobby drink dog's blood as a ritual. This goes beyond unbelievable and falls into [[Chick Tract]] and [[Mazes and Monsters]] levels of stupidity. Do the writers of KOTH even know what LARP groups or [[Dungeons and Dragons]] players are really like? Because, they certainly are '''not''' like the people portrayed in this episode.
* ''Serpunt''. Let me sum it up as briefly as possible. Bobby gets a pet python from Lucky (Which, by the way, would've cost Lucky a pretty penny since pythons in general cost about $100). Bobby's python escapes. Two corrupt exterminators cause a city-wide panic about the snake in Texas (You know, where snakes including '''HIGHLY VENOMOUS''' rattlers are commonplace). Dale finds the snake, again Bobby's '''pet''', and brutally kills it rather than humanely capture it and return to its owner. The snake wasn't even being a threat to anyone. It never attacked anyone in the episode. Notice a problem?
* ''Serpunt''. Let me sum it up as briefly as possible. Bobby gets a pet python from Lucky (Which, by the way, would've cost Lucky a pretty penny since pythons in general cost about $100). Bobby's python escapes. Two corrupt exterminators cause a city-wide panic about the snake in Texas (You know, where snakes including '''HIGHLY VENOMOUS''' rattlers are commonplace). Dale finds the snake, again Bobby's '''pet''', and brutally kills it rather than humanely capture it and return to its owner. The snake wasn't even being a threat to anyone. It never attacked anyone in the episode. Notice a problem?




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*** Actually what it would violate is the establishment clause of the first amendment. The thing that creates "separation of church and state." [[You Fail]] at reading comprehension.
*** Actually what it would violate is the establishment clause of the first amendment. The thing that creates "separation of church and state." [[You Fail]] at reading comprehension.
*** What the hell does being an atheist have to do with having read the Constitution?
*** What the hell does being an atheist have to do with having read the Constitution?
*** There's a difference between Biblical Studies, which is the study of the Bible from a scholarly perspective, and teaching the Bible from a religious perspective like they were doing in the episode. The former is allowed in public schools, the latter is not.
*** There's a difference between Biblical Studies, which is the study of the Bible from a scholarly perspective, and teaching the Bible from a religious perspective like they were doing in the episode. The former is allowed in public schools, the latter is not.
** This troper suspects the writers ''knew'' all that, and figured hey, [[Rule of Funny]] (as far as the Constitution goes, this is the show where ''one town'' never repealed the Eighteenth Amendment). In fact rather than being unaware of the Scopes trial, the episode was an intentional homage to the case and ''[[Inherit the Wind]]''; Lisa's lawyer is even named Clarice Drummond, a play on Clarence Darrow and his fictional counterpart Henry Drummond.
** This troper suspects the writers ''knew'' all that, and figured hey, [[Rule of Funny]] (as far as the Constitution goes, this is the show where ''one town'' never repealed the Eighteenth Amendment). In fact rather than being unaware of the Scopes trial, the episode was an intentional homage to the case and ''[[Inherit the Wind]]''; Lisa's lawyer is even named Clarice Drummond, a play on Clarence Darrow and his fictional counterpart Henry Drummond.
** Also, the precedent of the Monkey Trial does not in any way preclude a law like this being made. There is no Supreme Court Police that would lay the smack down on a town for passing this law, although it wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell once it were eventually brought before the Supreme Court.
** Also, the precedent of the Monkey Trial does not in any way preclude a law like this being made. There is no Supreme Court Police that would lay the smack down on a town for passing this law, although it wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell once it were eventually brought before the Supreme Court.
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* The ending of "Bart the Murderer." Long story short, Bart ends up becoming a bartender for the Springfield Mob. When Principal Skinner goes missing after punishing Bart in school, Bart is immediately accused of murdering him, resulting in his standing trial in court. Luckily, Skinner shows up and explains that he was accidentally trapped in his garage all week, clearing Bart of all the charges. Nothing wrong with that, right? WRONGO. During the trial, Fat Tony and the other gangsters claim that Bart is the leader of the Springfield Mob...and everyone in court ''believes'' them, completely ignoring the fact that Bart ''is a 10-year-old boy!'' I know the people of Springfield aren't exactly Einsteins, but come on! We're supposed to accept that they honestly believe a 10-year-old is capable of leading a group of thugs, robbers, blackmailers, and murderers?!
* The ending of "Bart the Murderer." Long story short, Bart ends up becoming a bartender for the Springfield Mob. When Principal Skinner goes missing after punishing Bart in school, Bart is immediately accused of murdering him, resulting in his standing trial in court. Luckily, Skinner shows up and explains that he was accidentally trapped in his garage all week, clearing Bart of all the charges. Nothing wrong with that, right? WRONGO. During the trial, Fat Tony and the other gangsters claim that Bart is the leader of the Springfield Mob...and everyone in court ''believes'' them, completely ignoring the fact that Bart ''is a 10-year-old boy!'' I know the people of Springfield aren't exactly Einsteins, but come on! We're supposed to accept that they honestly believe a 10-year-old is capable of leading a group of thugs, robbers, blackmailers, and murderers?!
** To be fair to the writers, this was actually [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] by ''Mr. Burns'', of all people. When Smithers notes that Bart is looking at 180 years in jail, Burns replies that he's thankful to live in a country so hysterical about crime that a ten year old child could be tried as an adult.
** To be fair to the writers, this was actually [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] by ''Mr. Burns'', of all people. When Smithers notes that Bart is looking at 180 years in jail, Burns replies that he's thankful to live in a country so hysterical about crime that a ten year old child could be tried as an adult.
** The ''ending''-ending is even worse! After Principal Skinner appears in the courtroom, telling everyone what ''actually'' happened that day and where he's been (when Fat Tony and his men came to him at school, they simply wanted to talk with him, and left when Skinner told them to leave. Later, while he was at home, in the basement, he fell and knocked over a huge stack of newspapers, which pinned him down. The police searched his house for him for days, and ''never thought to check the basement, nor could they hear Skinner yelling "I'M DOWN HERE!"'' Despite the fact that apparently Skinner could hear them perfectly fine when they were talking at normal audio levels). After it's clear that Bart is innocent, however...the family goes home and sees a made-for-TV movie which paints Bart as a cold-blooded murderer of his principal, and the mob as a terrified group of adults who let a ten-year-old smack them around. Granted, Bart thought the movie was cool, but ''still! What the hell?!''
** The ''ending''-ending is even worse! After Principal Skinner appears in the courtroom, telling everyone what ''actually'' happened that day and where he's been (when Fat Tony and his men came to him at school, they simply wanted to talk with him, and left when Skinner told them to leave. Later, while he was at home, in the basement, he fell and knocked over a huge stack of newspapers, which pinned him down. The police searched his house for him for days, and ''never thought to check the basement, nor could they hear Skinner yelling "I'M DOWN HERE!"'' Despite the fact that apparently Skinner could hear them perfectly fine when they were talking at normal audio levels). After it's clear that Bart is innocent, however...the family goes home and sees a made-for-TV movie which paints Bart as a cold-blooded murderer of his principal, and the mob as a terrified group of adults who let a ten-year-old smack them around. Granted, Bart thought the movie was cool, but ''still! What the hell?!''
*** Then again, this ''is'' Chief Wiggum and his men we're talking about. They're not exactly the brightest bulbs in the box.
*** Then again, this ''is'' Chief Wiggum and his men we're talking about. They're not exactly the brightest bulbs in the box.
*** What about the idea that they could arrest, try, and convict anyone of a ''bodiless murder,'' commonly seen as one of the most difficult prosecution possible, within '''one week?'''
*** What about the idea that they could arrest, try, and convict anyone of a ''bodiless murder,'' commonly seen as one of the most difficult prosecution possible, within '''one week?'''
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* "The Haw-Hawed Couple" (the one with Bart and Nelson being friends) really bugs me with Marge. Bart says he's not going to Nelson's birthday party, but then Marge whips right around in anger and tells him to go. Even worse, when he figures out the flaw in her logic, she doesn't back off and smacks him on the head with a wooden spoon. She even threatens to do it a second time. Why the hell is Marge forcing him to go when she's already told him in a previous episode (Bart the Mother) never to hang around with him again (especially since he's going to be walking into a death trap)?!
* "The Haw-Hawed Couple" (the one with Bart and Nelson being friends) really bugs me with Marge. Bart says he's not going to Nelson's birthday party, but then Marge whips right around in anger and tells him to go. Even worse, when he figures out the flaw in her logic, she doesn't back off and smacks him on the head with a wooden spoon. She even threatens to do it a second time. Why the hell is Marge forcing him to go when she's already told him in a previous episode (Bart the Mother) never to hang around with him again (especially since he's going to be walking into a death trap)?!
** Not only that, she's put him in a similar situation when he told him to give a group of people --turning out to be Dolph, Jimbo, and Kearney-- his lunch money. Granted she didn't know they were the schoolyard bullies, but still... WHY?!
** Not only that, she's put him in a similar situation when he told him to give a group of people --turning out to be Dolph, Jimbo, and Kearney-- his lunch money. Granted she didn't know they were the schoolyard bullies, but still... WHY?!
* This Troper got serious pissed during "On a Clear Day I Can't See My Sister" and "Oh Brother, Where Bart Thou?" both of which essentially show that even when Lisa isn't being a [[Soapbox Sadie]] [[Mary Sue]], she's perfectly capable of being a [[Jerkass]] to Bart in ways that he would never be to her. The end of "The Great Wife Hope" is an even more blatant example of fraternal [[Abuse Is Okay When It Is Female On Male]]; even if they were having a fight, the fact is the writers assumed "girl punching out boy" would be hilarious, even though the last we saw of Bart was him [[Even Bad Men Love Their Mamas|heroically defending Marge]] [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|from a larger, adult opponent]].
* This Troper got serious pissed during "On a Clear Day I Can't See My Sister" and "Oh Brother, Where Bart Thou?" both of which essentially show that even when Lisa isn't being a [[Soapbox Sadie]] [[Mary Sue]], she's perfectly capable of being a [[Jerkass]] to Bart in ways that he would never be to her. The end of "The Great Wife Hope" is an even more blatant example of fraternal [[Abuse Is Okay When It Is Female On Male]]; even if they were having a fight, the fact is the writers assumed "girl punching out boy" would be hilarious, even though the last we saw of Bart was him [[Even Bad Men Love Their Mamas|heroically defending Marge]] [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|from a larger, adult opponent]].
* Speaking of "On A Clear Day I Can't See My Sister", it's outrageous that Lisa gets away with a restraining order on Bart, [[Disproportionate Retribution|after he only made a fart prank and teased her a little bit]] when she was being an annoying [[Soapbox Sadie]] anyway. Then no, she doesn't stop there as she gets a stick with a philips head screw-driver and pokes it at him and forces him into horrible conditions. After that when Marge finally somewhat calls her out, Lisa responds by saying that she can't remember anything nice Bart has done, [[Sarcasm Mode|because clearly hugging her on the hockey field never happened]]. Then after Bart makes a huge idol,...everything is [[Status Quo Is God|suddenly just better]], without any [[Karma Houdini|consequences]].
* Speaking of "On A Clear Day I Can't See My Sister", it's outrageous that Lisa gets away with a restraining order on Bart, [[Disproportionate Retribution|after he only made a fart prank and teased her a little bit]] when she was being an annoying [[Soapbox Sadie]] anyway. Then no, she doesn't stop there as she gets a stick with a philips head screw-driver and pokes it at him and forces him into horrible conditions. After that when Marge finally somewhat calls her out, Lisa responds by saying that she can't remember anything nice Bart has done, [[Sarcasm Mode|because clearly hugging her on the hockey field never happened]]. Then after Bart makes a huge idol,...everything is [[Status Quo Is God|suddenly just better]], without any [[Karma Houdini|consequences]].
* The ending to "The Old Man And Lisa" comes across as a big-time [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] to [[Neo YT Pism|this troper]]. Burns takes Lisa on a tour of the new recycling plant that he built based partly on her advice. She likes everything she sees until they get to the part where giant improvised fishing nets made of 6-pack holders are used to gather up large amounts of sea life for a slurry that is used as animal feed and engine coolant. Okay, so using sea life might be morally ambiguous, at least if endangered species are involved, (they do not say) but she is absolutely outraged at this, treating it as unambiguously evil, and apparently the writers expect us to agree with her. Never mind that feed made of sea life is arguably better than some of the feed on farms today (hint: some kinds of feed for some species involves making them eat their own kind) or that if this form of engine coolant was not used something else would probably have been used in its place. Also, Burns' response to this is ''"I don't understand. Pigs need food. Engines need coolant. Dynamiters need dynamite. I'm supplying it to them at a tiny profit, and not a single sea creature was wasted."'' It is clearly a reasonable response, yet if the BGM is anything to go by, it is portrayed as if it were some kind of [[Hannibal Lecture]]. Lisa storms out of the recycling plant, and later on when Burns shows up to offer her 10 percent of the profit, she says "knowing where it came from..." and rips the check in half. Really? When you liked everything else about the plant, that one aspect of it is enough reason to make you refuse to accept money from it, despite the explanations offered for why it is there? Despite that Burns would probably have kept the money anyway, whereas if you had some of it you could use that money to undo what you perceived as damage? Simpsons writers, thank you for foreshadowing my disillusionment with mainstream environmentalism that would take until college (and my involvement with the environmental groups I met there) to solidify. (On a sidenote, it is POSSIBLE that this was a [[Stealth Parody]] of environmentalism, but given the exceedingly one-sided nature of that the aesops on that show, I doubt that is likely.)
* The ending to "The Old Man And Lisa" comes across as a big-time [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] to [[Neo YT Pism|this troper]]. Burns takes Lisa on a tour of the new recycling plant that he built based partly on her advice. She likes everything she sees until they get to the part where giant improvised fishing nets made of 6-pack holders are used to gather up large amounts of sea life for a slurry that is used as animal feed and engine coolant. Okay, so using sea life might be morally ambiguous, at least if endangered species are involved, (they do not say) but she is absolutely outraged at this, treating it as unambiguously evil, and apparently the writers expect us to agree with her. Never mind that feed made of sea life is arguably better than some of the feed on farms today (hint: some kinds of feed for some species involves making them eat their own kind) or that if this form of engine coolant was not used something else would probably have been used in its place. Also, Burns' response to this is ''"I don't understand. Pigs need food. Engines need coolant. Dynamiters need dynamite. I'm supplying it to them at a tiny profit, and not a single sea creature was wasted."'' It is clearly a reasonable response, yet if the BGM is anything to go by, it is portrayed as if it were some kind of [[Hannibal Lecture]]. Lisa storms out of the recycling plant, and later on when Burns shows up to offer her 10 percent of the profit, she says "knowing where it came from..." and rips the check in half. Really? When you liked everything else about the plant, that one aspect of it is enough reason to make you refuse to accept money from it, despite the explanations offered for why it is there? Despite that Burns would probably have kept the money anyway, whereas if you had some of it you could use that money to undo what you perceived as damage? Simpsons writers, thank you for foreshadowing my disillusionment with mainstream environmentalism that would take until college (and my involvement with the environmental groups I met there) to solidify. (On a sidenote, it is POSSIBLE that this was a [[Stealth Parody]] of environmentalism, but given the exceedingly one-sided nature of that the aesops on that show, I doubt that is likely.)
** Take a closer look at all the creatures caught. There were not only fishes of all kinds and sizes but also crustaceans and even a ''freking whale''. That net is not "morally ambiguous" it's a [[Weapon of Mass Destruction]].
** Take a closer look at all the creatures caught. There were not only fishes of all kinds and sizes but also crustaceans and even a ''freking whale''. That net is not "morally ambiguous" it's a [[Weapon of Mass Destruction]].
*** ... [[Analogy Backfire|but even weapons of mass destruction are morally ambiguous, depending on how one intends to use them]]. (See also [[Shoot the Dog|the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki]].) Oh, and if you have to look closely at it to notice the whale, then, well, they probably could have been clearer about it than that. The point is, he used sea life, but it was going to be put to practical use. Lisa automatically treating this as indefensible comes across as closed-minded at best, especially when Burns calmly explains what it's being used for.
*** ... [[Analogy Backfire|but even weapons of mass destruction are morally ambiguous, depending on how one intends to use them]]. (See also [[Shoot the Dog|the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki]].) Oh, and if you have to look closely at it to notice the whale, then, well, they probably could have been clearer about it than that. The point is, he used sea life, but it was going to be put to practical use. Lisa automatically treating this as indefensible comes across as closed-minded at best, especially when Burns calmly explains what it's being used for.
**** Okay, let's put all those arguments aside for a second and focus on something else. Burns ''didn't know'' he was doing something that could be (and is) seen as something evil. He genuinely believed it to be the next step in recycling. He didn't even think it was an "ends justify the means" situation, but rather, he wholeheartedly thought that the means were an act of good. Even if it ''is'' an evil act, that didn't make Burns himself evil in that situation. It made him misguided at worst. But no, the writers have to make it so that Lisa is a [[Soapbox Sadie]] [[Canon Sue]].
**** Okay, let's put all those arguments aside for a second and focus on something else. Burns ''didn't know'' he was doing something that could be (and is) seen as something evil. He genuinely believed it to be the next step in recycling. He didn't even think it was an "ends justify the means" situation, but rather, he wholeheartedly thought that the means were an act of good. Even if it ''is'' an evil act, that didn't make Burns himself evil in that situation. It made him misguided at worst. But no, the writers have to make it so that Lisa is a [[Soapbox Sadie]] [[Canon Sue]].
* In the first segment of ''Treehouse of Horror XI'', Homer has 24 hours to do one good deed. He ''does'' manage to do one where he saves a baby from getting run over by cars, but SAINT PETER DIDN'T SEE THAT? They're supposed to see everything, including ''that!'' To add insult, he then tells Homer that it was really Santa Claus who saw everything, but ''not them too?'' Then he sends Homer to hell just because ''he did not see that good deed, making it not count by default.''
* In the first segment of ''Treehouse of Horror XI'', Homer has 24 hours to do one good deed. He ''does'' manage to do one where he saves a baby from getting run over by cars, but SAINT PETER DIDN'T SEE THAT? They're supposed to see everything, including ''that!'' To add insult, he then tells Homer that it was really Santa Claus who saw everything, but ''not them too?'' Then he sends Homer to hell just because ''he did not see that good deed, making it not count by default.''
* "That 90's Show" quickly became infamous for [[Retcon|utterly shattering]] ''decades of continuity'' just for the sake of a [[Whole-Episode Flashback]].
* "That 90's Show" quickly became infamous for [[Retcon|utterly shattering]] ''decades of continuity'' just for the sake of a [[Whole-Episode Flashback]].
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** This isn't entirely bad when Anakin at least has the decency to point out that the Jedi are acting like a military and as a result should report to Chancellor Palpatine.....who, of course, is [[The Chessmaster|Darth Sidious]], so it serves to bite them in the ass even if they don't realize it at all at that point. But torturing...yeah.
** This isn't entirely bad when Anakin at least has the decency to point out that the Jedi are acting like a military and as a result should report to Chancellor Palpatine.....who, of course, is [[The Chessmaster|Darth Sidious]], so it serves to bite them in the ass even if they don't realize it at all at that point. But torturing...yeah.
*** Well considering that the lives of two babies were on the line I'd say that in this case desperate times call for desperate measures.
*** Well considering that the lives of two babies were on the line I'd say that in this case desperate times call for desperate measures.
*** It was out of concern for children's lives, yes, but it's also blatantly [[Hypocrisy|hypocritical]] to decide torturing someone would be wrong and then turn around and do it anyway. This is part of the [[Moral Myopia]] mentioned below.
*** It was out of concern for children's lives, yes, but it's also blatantly [[Hypocrisy|hypocritical]] to decide torturing someone would be wrong and then turn around and do it anyway. This is part of the [[Moral Myopia]] mentioned below.
** Don't forget that Jedi tend to contradict themselves a lot, act on [[Moral Myopia]] and just be outright hypocrites at times, especially on [[Expanded Universe]] and [[Knights of the Old Republic]]. Or has everyone forgotten the {{spoiler|brainwashing Revan}} in the first game?
** Don't forget that Jedi tend to contradict themselves a lot, act on [[Moral Myopia]] and just be outright hypocrites at times, especially on [[Expanded Universe]] and [[Knights of the Old Republic]]. Or has everyone forgotten the {{spoiler|brainwashing Revan}} in the first game?
* Another Clone Wars example: "Lightsaber Lost." The whole episode. She used the Force in multiple instances, including some, ah, ''enhanced interrogation'' on the thief, but never once thinks to just grab the actual lightsaber. Despite having several perfect opportunities to do so, including when she ''first noticed it had been stolen.''
* Another Clone Wars example: "Lightsaber Lost." The whole episode. She used the Force in multiple instances, including some, ah, ''enhanced interrogation'' on the thief, but never once thinks to just grab the actual lightsaber. Despite having several perfect opportunities to do so, including when she ''first noticed it had been stolen.''
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* There are multiple occasions in this series where a major problem can be solved by a Jedi using the Force, but for some inexplicable reason, they choose not to. Such as the episode where Cad Bane has Ahsoka trapped in an airlock and will vent her into space unless Anakin opens a holocron for him. [[Sarcasm Mode|Gosh, if only Anakin had the telekinetic ability to throw Bane into a wall before he had a chance to press the button.]]
* There are multiple occasions in this series where a major problem can be solved by a Jedi using the Force, but for some inexplicable reason, they choose not to. Such as the episode where Cad Bane has Ahsoka trapped in an airlock and will vent her into space unless Anakin opens a holocron for him. [[Sarcasm Mode|Gosh, if only Anakin had the telekinetic ability to throw Bane into a wall before he had a chance to press the button.]]
*** Clincher is, Cad Bane sends her out the Airlock anyways! Apparently Anakin was fully capable of rescuing her from said airlock.
*** Clincher is, Cad Bane sends her out the Airlock anyways! Apparently Anakin was fully capable of rescuing her from said airlock.
* One thing that sticks out, is that the series seems to constantly pass up opportunities to showcase Anakin's dark side. Now while it's great that we finally get to see more of Anakin behaving like the hero and friend that Obi-Wan described him to be in the original films, at this point in the series, it wouldn't hurt to have him flip out on some bad guys or acknowledge his mechanical arm at least once. It would also be good so that when kids who have been introduced to Star Wars via the series finally see the films, they wont be shocked as much when their hero suddenly goes on a killing spree.
* One thing that sticks out, is that the series seems to constantly pass up opportunities to showcase Anakin's dark side. Now while it's great that we finally get to see more of Anakin behaving like the hero and friend that Obi-Wan described him to be in the original films, at this point in the series, it wouldn't hurt to have him flip out on some bad guys or acknowledge his mechanical arm at least once. It would also be good so that when kids who have been introduced to Star Wars via the series finally see the films, they wont be shocked as much when their hero suddenly goes on a killing spree.
* In season 3 Cad Bane manages to successfully fight off both Obi-Wan Kenobi and Quinlan Vos ''by using one of their own lightsabers and directly engaging them with it.'' There's Badass then there's [[Villain Sue]]. Even Jango Fett was only able to stay alive against Obi Wan and Mace Windu as long as he kept them away from their lightsabers.
* In season 3 Cad Bane manages to successfully fight off both Obi-Wan Kenobi and Quinlan Vos ''by using one of their own lightsabers and directly engaging them with it.'' There's Badass then there's [[Villain Sue]]. Even Jango Fett was only able to stay alive against Obi Wan and Mace Windu as long as he kept them away from their lightsabers.
** To be fair, Bane got in a total of like three swings before Obi-Wan disarmed him, and Bane's true shining moment is in hand to hand. This itself is a wallbanger, though; see above with force powers. Even if Jedi don't do the neck choke, there are at least five ways that battle could have been ended quickly and Bane captured. As always, the Jedi have to hold the [[Idiot Ball]] so they're not strong enough to beat Bane.
** To be fair, Bane got in a total of like three swings before Obi-Wan disarmed him, and Bane's true shining moment is in hand to hand. This itself is a wallbanger, though; see above with force powers. Even if Jedi don't do the neck choke, there are at least five ways that battle could have been ended quickly and Bane captured. As always, the Jedi have to hold the [[Idiot Ball]] so they're not strong enough to beat Bane.
* In the Mortis arc of ''[[Star Wars: The Clone Wars|Star Wars the Clone Wars]]'', Anakin meets the Son, a being who is basically the living embodiment of the Dark Side, complete with [[Red Eyes, Take Warning|glowing red eyes]], [[Bald of Evil|visible lack of hair]], and [[Obviously Evil|entirely black clothing]]. Son shows Anakin the future (which naturally includes all of the evil he will inflict on the galaxy) and asks Anakin to join him in conquering the galaxy to prevent those evil things from happening. So, basically, he says "Turn to the Dark Side, so that you can prevent yourself from...turning to the Dark Side." And how does our hero, the almighty Chosen One, choose to counter such a [[Sarcasm Mode|compelling argument]] of such [[You Fail Logic Forever|flawless logic]]? He bites down on the [[Shmuck Bait]], ''hard'', and goes completely over to the Dark Side. [[Good Is Dumb|Good really is dumb, isn't it?]]
* In the Mortis arc of ''[[Star Wars: The Clone Wars|Star Wars the Clone Wars]]'', Anakin meets the Son, a being who is basically the living embodiment of the Dark Side, complete with [[Red Eyes, Take Warning|glowing red eyes]], [[Bald of Evil|visible lack of hair]], and [[Obviously Evil|entirely black clothing]]. Son shows Anakin the future (which naturally includes all of the evil he will inflict on the galaxy) and asks Anakin to join him in conquering the galaxy to prevent those evil things from happening. So, basically, he says "Turn to the Dark Side, so that you can prevent yourself from...turning to the Dark Side." And how does our hero, the almighty Chosen One, choose to counter such a [[Sarcasm Mode|compelling argument]] of such [[You Fail Logic Forever|flawless logic]]? He bites down on the [[Shmuck Bait]], ''hard'', and goes completely over to the Dark Side. [[Good Is Dumb|Good really is dumb, isn't it?]]
** And then, the Father, living embodiment of the Force As A Whole, brings him [[Heel Face Revolving Door|right straight back to the Light Side again]], [[Easy Amnesia|with no memory of what happened]]. My ''God'' that plot twist was pointless...
** And then, the Father, living embodiment of the Force As A Whole, brings him [[Heel Face Revolving Door|right straight back to the Light Side again]], [[Easy Amnesia|with no memory of what happened]]. My ''God'' that plot twist was pointless...
** From the same episode, only this time, the [[Idiot Ball]] has been handed to the Daughter, [[Rule of Three|living embodiment]] of the Light Side. Get this; her brother is about to stab her father, and instead of, y'know, ''using the Force'' to pull the knife away from her brother, she [[Takes the Bullet]]. And dies. Thus leaving the Force in the care of her father, who is dying, and her brother, who is as dumb as she is and evil on top of that. ...If ''these'' are the people who are basically running the universe at large, is it ''any'' wonder that the Chosen One is an idiot? I mean, come on...
** From the same episode, only this time, the [[Idiot Ball]] has been handed to the Daughter, [[Rule of Three|living embodiment]] of the Light Side. Get this; her brother is about to stab her father, and instead of, y'know, ''using the Force'' to pull the knife away from her brother, she [[Takes the Bullet]]. And dies. Thus leaving the Force in the care of her father, who is dying, and her brother, who is as dumb as she is and evil on top of that. ...If ''these'' are the people who are basically running the universe at large, is it ''any'' wonder that the Chosen One is an idiot? I mean, come on...
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*** There are two explanations for that, one [[In-Universe]] and one meta. The in-story explanation is that, while this is what Megatron originally set out to do, he had second thoughts about messing with history and tried to avoid it for the first season. The meta explanation is that the staff (who made stuff up as they went along in the early stages) had yet to decide if the setting was Earth.
*** There are two explanations for that, one [[In-Universe]] and one meta. The in-story explanation is that, while this is what Megatron originally set out to do, he had second thoughts about messing with history and tried to avoid it for the first season. The meta explanation is that the staff (who made stuff up as they went along in the early stages) had yet to decide if the setting was Earth.
**** They had them all take on the characteristics of Earth fauna and yet weren't sure this was Earth?
**** They had them all take on the characteristics of Earth fauna and yet weren't sure this was Earth?
***** Speaking of, how were they able to get a hold of ''modern'' Earth fauna forms at a point in Earth's history that includes ''pre-hominids''? Shouldn't they have gotten stuff like Giant Sloths, smilodons and mammoths?
***** Speaking of, how were they able to get a hold of ''modern'' Earth fauna forms at a point in Earth's history that includes ''pre-hominids''? Shouldn't they have gotten stuff like Giant Sloths, smilodons and mammoths?
**** Though the [[In-Universe]] brings up another Wall Banger, again related to Ravage; [[All There in the Manual|according to supplementary media]], Megatron's plan to change history would've resulted in the destruction of all Transformers, as it required killing Optimus Prime, the holder of the Autobot Matrix of Leadership, which in turn was the only thing that could kill Unicron. No Prime, no Matrix, no way to stop Unicron from omnomnoming on Cybertron. Megatron likely knew this, and thus put it off as a last resort plan, only implemented when he had no other choice. However, Ravage was ''also'' present during the Unicron incident, and would also know the inherent dangers to the history-changing plan. So why would he be so easily convinced by Megatron to do it? Yeah, it took seeing a recording from the original (G1) Megatron detailing the plan to make him join up, but why? If anything, he should've pointed out that the plan was made before the threat of Unicron was even known (because Megatron would've been transformed into Galvatron, during that time, meaning the message would've been made before then) and continued to haul him in. Or is Ravage's devotion to the Decepticon cause just ''so'' great that he'll ignore ''his own experiences'' with the group to slag up history on orders from his dead commander made centuries ago? And before you answer, please keep in mind that, in his Beast Wars origins, Ravage ''left'' his fellow Decepticons for the Tripredacus council after his reformatting out of some disillusionment on his part, so he ''does'' have at least some history of abandoning the Decepticons if he feels it prudent to.
**** Though the [[In-Universe]] brings up another Wall Banger, again related to Ravage; [[All There in the Manual|according to supplementary media]], Megatron's plan to change history would've resulted in the destruction of all Transformers, as it required killing Optimus Prime, the holder of the Autobot Matrix of Leadership, which in turn was the only thing that could kill Unicron. No Prime, no Matrix, no way to stop Unicron from omnomnoming on Cybertron. Megatron likely knew this, and thus put it off as a last resort plan, only implemented when he had no other choice. However, Ravage was ''also'' present during the Unicron incident, and would also know the inherent dangers to the history-changing plan. So why would he be so easily convinced by Megatron to do it? Yeah, it took seeing a recording from the original (G1) Megatron detailing the plan to make him join up, but why? If anything, he should've pointed out that the plan was made before the threat of Unicron was even known (because Megatron would've been transformed into Galvatron, during that time, meaning the message would've been made before then) and continued to haul him in. Or is Ravage's devotion to the Decepticon cause just ''so'' great that he'll ignore ''his own experiences'' with the group to slag up history on orders from his dead commander made centuries ago? And before you answer, please keep in mind that, in his Beast Wars origins, Ravage ''left'' his fellow Decepticons for the Tripredacus council after his reformatting out of some disillusionment on his part, so he ''does'' have at least some history of abandoning the Decepticons if he feels it prudent to.
***** Megatron seems to fall further and further into megalomania as the series progresses. Initially, all he seems to care about is getting Energon. It's only one failure after the next that his ambitions start growing. Seems like every defeat, he comes back with a greater and stronger ego. It's entirely possible that he did have the message from the original Megatron but didn't rightly care about it initially, and it's only after his growing psychosis that "KILL OPTIMUS PRIME, KILL THE UNIVERSE" started to sound like a good idea.
***** Megatron seems to fall further and further into megalomania as the series progresses. Initially, all he seems to care about is getting Energon. It's only one failure after the next that his ambitions start growing. Seems like every defeat, he comes back with a greater and stronger ego. It's entirely possible that he did have the message from the original Megatron but didn't rightly care about it initially, and it's only after his growing psychosis that "KILL OPTIMUS PRIME, KILL THE UNIVERSE" started to sound like a good idea.
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* ''[[Transformers: The Movie]]'' has two of them certainly. Ones that aren't even 'debatable'. Both are from the attack on Autobot City:
* ''[[Transformers: The Movie]]'' has two of them certainly. Ones that aren't even 'debatable'. Both are from the attack on Autobot City:
** During the city transform, they showed oodles of [[BFG]]s being moved into place, to battle the Decepticons. A lot were set up against an air attack, since essentially all the 'Cons can fly in robot mode... Then in the wide view of the city battle, they were indeed flying, but NONE of the guns were firing. They only showed two of the smaller ones firing, at two different points in small angle. During the big angle, all the defense guns were silent.
** During the city transform, they showed oodles of [[BFG]]s being moved into place, to battle the Decepticons. A lot were set up against an air attack, since essentially all the 'Cons can fly in robot mode... Then in the wide view of the city battle, they were indeed flying, but NONE of the guns were firing. They only showed two of the smaller ones firing, at two different points in small angle. During the big angle, all the defense guns were silent.
** Second one, during the main of the attack. Their catapult/launcher to fire out one spot is a tracked vehicle. Presumably this is so it can turn to fire through three different firing slats. A tracked vehicle can be turned easily by running one track forward and the other backward, after all. During the movie, they PUSH IT SIDEWAYS AGAINST ITS TRACKS to put it into position, causing two people to strain, and only being done so two others could get there and they could poke a line in. GAH.
** Second one, during the main of the attack. Their catapult/launcher to fire out one spot is a tracked vehicle. Presumably this is so it can turn to fire through three different firing slats. A tracked vehicle can be turned easily by running one track forward and the other backward, after all. During the movie, they PUSH IT SIDEWAYS AGAINST ITS TRACKS to put it into position, causing two people to strain, and only being done so two others could get there and they could poke a line in. GAH.
* ''[[Transformers Animated]]'' doesn't get off scott-free either. The episode where they introduce the Constructicons flat out transcends stupidity. The Constructicons are a simple pair of recently animated construction worker robots who only want to drink oil and build things. They're not the most responsible pair, and when Bulkhead brings them home, they nearly decapitate Sari by accident. Optimus is understandably outraged, but apparently forgets that ''they're in the middle of a bloody war'' and kicks the two out of his base, completely apathetic about what happens to them. Naturally the constructicons eventually run into the Decepticons - who the Autobots mentioned, but never went into detail about. When they see Megatron's plans, being construction workers, they offer him some construction tips, and their own services, on the grounds that Megatron can pay them in oil. When the constructicons next run into the Autobots, they're simply gathering materials to build the device, and greet their old friend Bulkhead, who's positively furious about them helping the Decepticons, ''despite the constructicons knowing exactly nothing about the war, or who they're helping'', and rather than try to solve things diplomatically, turns violent. To top this off, when some bad oil winds up erasing the Constructicons' memories of the whole thing, Bulkhead ''still'' angrily attacks them and chases them off for crimes they can't even remember. So, rather than try to get on good terms with a pair of ultimately good natured newborns, the autobots unanimously turn violent and contemptful towards the two for having the audacity to try and be neighborly to a group of robots who've yet to do anything wrong to the two, and making NO real effort to get them to understand that there's a war going on.
* ''[[Transformers Animated]]'' doesn't get off scott-free either. The episode where they introduce the Constructicons flat out transcends stupidity. The Constructicons are a simple pair of recently animated construction worker robots who only want to drink oil and build things. They're not the most responsible pair, and when Bulkhead brings them home, they nearly decapitate Sari by accident. Optimus is understandably outraged, but apparently forgets that ''they're in the middle of a bloody war'' and kicks the two out of his base, completely apathetic about what happens to them. Naturally the constructicons eventually run into the Decepticons - who the Autobots mentioned, but never went into detail about. When they see Megatron's plans, being construction workers, they offer him some construction tips, and their own services, on the grounds that Megatron can pay them in oil. When the constructicons next run into the Autobots, they're simply gathering materials to build the device, and greet their old friend Bulkhead, who's positively furious about them helping the Decepticons, ''despite the constructicons knowing exactly nothing about the war, or who they're helping'', and rather than try to solve things diplomatically, turns violent. To top this off, when some bad oil winds up erasing the Constructicons' memories of the whole thing, Bulkhead ''still'' angrily attacks them and chases them off for crimes they can't even remember. So, rather than try to get on good terms with a pair of ultimately good natured newborns, the autobots unanimously turn violent and contemptful towards the two for having the audacity to try and be neighborly to a group of robots who've yet to do anything wrong to the two, and making NO real effort to get them to understand that there's a war going on.




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** Lastly, why would Sabrina be shocked that her Future Loser self sold off her magic? Considering that some episodes depict Sabrina as hating herself for being a witch, being a rich mortal seems to be the best thing that can happen to Sabrina. It would mean being a complete and utter kiss-ass to her rival, Gem, who now has her magic, but, hey, Sabrina knew what she was getting into when she sold off her magic, so who really cares? And, much like Harvey's future, there's really no guarantee that this future (of Sabrina selling out to Gem) will happen to Sabrina, whether she earns back the $300 to give to the library or not.
** Lastly, why would Sabrina be shocked that her Future Loser self sold off her magic? Considering that some episodes depict Sabrina as hating herself for being a witch, being a rich mortal seems to be the best thing that can happen to Sabrina. It would mean being a complete and utter kiss-ass to her rival, Gem, who now has her magic, but, hey, Sabrina knew what she was getting into when she sold off her magic, so who really cares? And, much like Harvey's future, there's really no guarantee that this future (of Sabrina selling out to Gem) will happen to Sabrina, whether she earns back the $300 to give to the library or not.
* [[Doug]]'s in the Money. Doug finds an envelope filled with almost $15,000 that an old lady carelessly dropped in a gutter. He turns it in to the police in spite of the criticism and mocking of his friends, his family, and even the police officers. That's fine. But after 30 days, no one claims it and the money legally becomes Doug's. A [[Coincidental Broadcast]] a MONTH after the money was first lost reveals the identity of the lady to Doug, motivating him out of nothing but the goodness of his heart to return the money to the old lady. For his troubles, he receives nothing but a pack of gum. [[Being Good Sucks|The writers railroaded Doug into doing the "right thing" under the shittiest conditions possible]].
* [[Doug]]'s in the Money. Doug finds an envelope filled with almost $15,000 that an old lady carelessly dropped in a gutter. He turns it in to the police in spite of the criticism and mocking of his friends, his family, and even the police officers. That's fine. But after 30 days, no one claims it and the money legally becomes Doug's. A [[Coincidental Broadcast]] a MONTH after the money was first lost reveals the identity of the lady to Doug, motivating him out of nothing but the goodness of his heart to return the money to the old lady. For his troubles, he receives nothing but a pack of gum. [[Being Good Sucks|The writers railroaded Doug into doing the "right thing" under the shittiest conditions possible]].
** Doug on First. [[Adults Are Useless|Really, parents?]] Are you really so concerned about your kids having a chance at pitching for their baseball team that you'd have them switch pitchers for every batter on the biggest game of their year? Even though it's ''their'' team? Even though they didn't even care about that to begin with? Even though they know they would lose their game if they went with such a dumb idea?
** Doug on First. [[Adults Are Useless|Really, parents?]] Are you really so concerned about your kids having a chance at pitching for their baseball team that you'd have them switch pitchers for every batter on the biggest game of their year? Even though it's ''their'' team? Even though they didn't even care about that to begin with? Even though they know they would lose their game if they went with such a dumb idea?
* ''[[Winx Club]]'': An S3 ep has Tecna sacrifice herself to save Layla's realm. Just one problem with that: In doing so, she gets her Enchantix powers. It was firmly established earlier in the season that each girl is supposed to save someone from her own world through a great sacrifice to get hers. At no point did the episode, or even the series, feature (or even mention) anyone else from Tecna's world.
* ''[[Winx Club]]'': An S3 ep has Tecna sacrifice herself to save Layla's realm. Just one problem with that: In doing so, she gets her Enchantix powers. It was firmly established earlier in the season that each girl is supposed to save someone from her own world through a great sacrifice to get hers. At no point did the episode, or even the series, feature (or even mention) anyone else from Tecna's world.
** As of the end of S4, we ''still'' haven't been to Tecna's home-realm, and she's moved on from Enchantix to Believix.
** As of the end of S4, we ''still'' haven't been to Tecna's home-realm, and she's moved on from Enchantix to Believix.
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** This version was based on [[Ultimate Marvel]]'s Nitro, not 616. Ultimate Nitro is a mutate who just wants to be normal, and that is probably the one used.
** This version was based on [[Ultimate Marvel]]'s Nitro, not 616. Ultimate Nitro is a mutate who just wants to be normal, and that is probably the one used.
** The episode "Backlash" has the X-Men going off to battle Sentinels in an attempt to destroy Master Mold. Wolverine decides to leave someone behind to look after Tildie Soames, whom they had rescued in an earlier episode. He chooses to leave ''Shadowcat'' behind. Wouldn't you want someone on the team who can disrupt electrical systems when you're going to fight giant robots? The others failed to destroy Master Mold; that battle would probably have gone better if the rest of the X-Men had stayed behind and sent Shadowcat out alone.
** The episode "Backlash" has the X-Men going off to battle Sentinels in an attempt to destroy Master Mold. Wolverine decides to leave someone behind to look after Tildie Soames, whom they had rescued in an earlier episode. He chooses to leave ''Shadowcat'' behind. Wouldn't you want someone on the team who can disrupt electrical systems when you're going to fight giant robots? The others failed to destroy Master Mold; that battle would probably have gone better if the rest of the X-Men had stayed behind and sent Shadowcat out alone.
** Another example is in the episode "eXcessive Force." During his quest to find Jean, Cyclops pulls Wolverine's loner shtick and delivers a [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge]]-style beatdown to Mr. Sinister's Marauders. At the end, when he's overcome by sheer [[Me's a Crowd|force of numbers]] and [[Big Damn Heroes|saved by the team]], Logan delivers a speech about how [[Loners Are Freaks|Scott screwed up by going off on his own]]...conveniently forgetting that he has [[Canon|canonically]] done the same thing more than once (having done ''exactly that'' in the previous episode). He even threatens to kick him off the team...again forgetting that, if such a threat had been made to himself, then he would have been [[Ten-Minute Retirement|out the door for "good."]]
** Another example is in the episode "eXcessive Force." During his quest to find Jean, Cyclops pulls Wolverine's loner shtick and delivers a [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge]]-style beatdown to Mr. Sinister's Marauders. At the end, when he's overcome by sheer [[Me's a Crowd|force of numbers]] and [[Big Damn Heroes|saved by the team]], Logan delivers a speech about how [[Loners Are Freaks|Scott screwed up by going off on his own]]...conveniently forgetting that he has [[Canon|canonically]] done the same thing more than once (having done ''exactly that'' in the previous episode). He even threatens to kick him off the team...again forgetting that, if such a threat had been made to himself, then he would have been [[Ten-Minute Retirement|out the door for "good."]]
* Ty Lee joining the Kyoshi warriors in ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]''. Not only does this contradict her entire character's motivation (wasn't the point that she wanted to be individual and NOT be part of a matching set?), but it comes out of nowhere and goes by quickly. We don't ever even see her interact with Zuko, Azula, or Mai, whom she was supposedly closer to, opting instead to be "best friends forever" with the Kyoshi warriors, which makes her seem extremely shallow as well. Ty Lee may be a fandom [[Ensemble Darkhorse]], but it's obvious the writers didn't really care about her story at all.
* Ty Lee joining the Kyoshi warriors in ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]''. Not only does this contradict her entire character's motivation (wasn't the point that she wanted to be individual and NOT be part of a matching set?), but it comes out of nowhere and goes by quickly. We don't ever even see her interact with Zuko, Azula, or Mai, whom she was supposedly closer to, opting instead to be "best friends forever" with the Kyoshi warriors, which makes her seem extremely shallow as well. Ty Lee may be a fandom [[Ensemble Darkhorse]], but it's obvious the writers didn't really care about her story at all.
* ''[[Danny Phantom]]'': the [[Laser-Guided Amnesia]] Danny induces at the end of "Reality Trip". All right, the use of the [[Reset Button]] was excusable, as was Danny destroying the reality Gauntlet; but ''mindwiping his parents'' was not. They had just made it clear that they love him regardless of his ghostly nature; Danny ''knew'' it would be this way if they ever found out; and they've tried to kill him once or twice without knowing he was their son. In short, there was ''no'' point in keeping his identity a secret from his family, and he knew it. But [[Status Quo Is God]]...
* ''[[Danny Phantom]]'': the [[Laser-Guided Amnesia]] Danny induces at the end of "Reality Trip". All right, the use of the [[Reset Button]] was excusable, as was Danny destroying the reality Gauntlet; but ''mindwiping his parents'' was not. They had just made it clear that they love him regardless of his ghostly nature; Danny ''knew'' it would be this way if they ever found out; and they've tried to kill him once or twice without knowing he was their son. In short, there was ''no'' point in keeping his identity a secret from his family, and he knew it. But [[Status Quo Is God]]...
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**** [[Jade Empire|Sounds oddly familiar.]]
**** [[Jade Empire|Sounds oddly familiar.]]
*** Which means that Rabbit is basically a walking [[Broken Aesop]]. Why? Well, Rabbit is a furry [[Small Name, Big Ego]] who has some clear [[Jerkass]] qualities to him...And yet, NO one in the show points out how arrogant he is because he's one of the good guys. So, um, [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|it's ok to be act like you're all that and a bag of chips and act like you're better than everyone else just because you're one of the good guys?]]
*** Which means that Rabbit is basically a walking [[Broken Aesop]]. Why? Well, Rabbit is a furry [[Small Name, Big Ego]] who has some clear [[Jerkass]] qualities to him...And yet, NO one in the show points out how arrogant he is because he's one of the good guys. So, um, [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|it's ok to be act like you're all that and a bag of chips and act like you're better than everyone else just because you're one of the good guys?]]
* The ending of ''[[Titanic: The Legend Goes On]]'' being [[Happily Ever After]]. A movie about the ''Titanic.'' [[Dude, Not Funny]] doesn't even begin to describe how offensive this is.
* The ending of ''[[Titanic: The Legend Goes On]]'' being [[Happily Ever After]]. A movie about the ''Titanic.'' [[Dude, Not Funny]] doesn't even begin to describe how offensive this is.
** And the utterly ridiculous [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment|"Party Time"]] scene.
** And the utterly ridiculous [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment|"Party Time"]] scene.
* In one episode of ''[[Ozzy and Drix]]'', Ozzy goes through mitosis. The result is a mutated [[Evil Twin|clone]] (he has 4 arms), and after getting Ozzy out of the way, he steals the iodine that will allow Hector to grow. What's wrong with that? Well, remember I said the clone had 4 arms? During the hold-up, all 4 of his arms are visible (he previously had the 2 extras hidden)...and yet NOBODY-not the police, not Maria, not even Drix-notices that 'Ozzy' has 2 extra arms! They all automatically assume that Ozzy (the real one) is guilty! Hey, morons! Are you stupid or something?! YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT THE REAL OZZY!
* In one episode of ''[[Ozzy and Drix]]'', Ozzy goes through mitosis. The result is a mutated [[Evil Twin|clone]] (he has 4 arms), and after getting Ozzy out of the way, he steals the iodine that will allow Hector to grow. What's wrong with that? Well, remember I said the clone had 4 arms? During the hold-up, all 4 of his arms are visible (he previously had the 2 extras hidden)...and yet NOBODY-not the police, not Maria, not even Drix-notices that 'Ozzy' has 2 extra arms! They all automatically assume that Ozzy (the real one) is guilty! Hey, morons! Are you stupid or something?! YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT THE REAL OZZY!
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** The special ''Misty Island Rescue'' has a tonne of these, but the most [[Egregious]] one would have to be the Shake Shake Bridge, a ramshackle, decaying bridge that the three logging engines happily cross, despite it obviously creaking under their weight, losing planks, etc. Thomas says that the bridge is unsafe, and shouldn't be used, but is eventually coaxed into crossing to the other side, and then ''says that the bridge is perfectly safe''. Words cannot describe the insanity. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8qcmZdJqMY See for yourself.]
** The special ''Misty Island Rescue'' has a tonne of these, but the most [[Egregious]] one would have to be the Shake Shake Bridge, a ramshackle, decaying bridge that the three logging engines happily cross, despite it obviously creaking under their weight, losing planks, etc. Thomas says that the bridge is unsafe, and shouldn't be used, but is eventually coaxed into crossing to the other side, and then ''says that the bridge is perfectly safe''. Words cannot describe the insanity. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8qcmZdJqMY See for yourself.]
** Many steam locomotive enthusiasts who grew up watching the show could not resist connecting their heads to the metal cab walls when they found out in one episode, "Thomas' firebox was on fire." No. Really?! For a brief steam locomotive lesson, a firebox is where coal/oil burns to heat the boiler up and create steam, so it's SUPPOSED to be on fire. As stated above, even though it's made for children, the amount of reality is draining faster than a drip tank.
** Many steam locomotive enthusiasts who grew up watching the show could not resist connecting their heads to the metal cab walls when they found out in one episode, "Thomas' firebox was on fire." No. Really?! For a brief steam locomotive lesson, a firebox is where coal/oil burns to heat the boiler up and create steam, so it's SUPPOSED to be on fire. As stated above, even though it's made for children, the amount of reality is draining faster than a drip tank.
* The existence of the Quarrymen, a KKK-knockoff from ''[[Gargoyles]]'', is a wallbanger in of itself. You can't even blame the [[Canon Discontinuity|canonically false]] ''Goliath Chronicles'' for them; they're canon as well. A great thing about the human prejudice toward gargoyles through most of the series is that it's parallel to real-life racism was ''subtle''; it didn't hammer it into the audience's heads, the audience was allowed to grasp the message on their own. But now we have these villains who hate gargoyles, so they throw sheets over their heads and go out hunting them with hi-tech hammers. Thus, they quite literally [[Incredibly Lame Pun|HAMMER]] the "gargoyle prejudice = racism" message into the audience's heads when it isn't needed.
* The existence of the Quarrymen, a KKK-knockoff from ''[[Gargoyles]]'', is a wallbanger in of itself. You can't even blame the [[Canon Discontinuity|canonically false]] ''Goliath Chronicles'' for them; they're canon as well. A great thing about the human prejudice toward gargoyles through most of the series is that it's parallel to real-life racism was ''subtle''; it didn't hammer it into the audience's heads, the audience was allowed to grasp the message on their own. But now we have these villains who hate gargoyles, so they throw sheets over their heads and go out hunting them with hi-tech hammers. Thus, they quite literally [[Incredibly Lame Pun|HAMMER]] the "gargoyle prejudice = racism" message into the audience's heads when it isn't needed.
** It wouldn't have been so bad except for one incident where the Quarrymen set a trap for the Gargoyles by having one of their members pretend to be mugged in a dark alley-because they know the Gargoyles ''help and protect the people of New York.'' Bear in mind that a recruiting drive shown earlier in the series emphasized that gargoyles were evil creatures that attacked people and couldn't be trusted. The Quarrymen must recruit people for their swinging arms and not their brains.
** It wouldn't have been so bad except for one incident where the Quarrymen set a trap for the Gargoyles by having one of their members pretend to be mugged in a dark alley-because they know the Gargoyles ''help and protect the people of New York.'' Bear in mind that a recruiting drive shown earlier in the series emphasized that gargoyles were evil creatures that attacked people and couldn't be trusted. The Quarrymen must recruit people for their swinging arms and not their brains.
* The ''[[Batman: The Brave And The Bold|Batman the Brave And The Bold]]'' episode "The Eyes of Despero" introduces the rather inept Green Lantern G'Nort. Throughout the episode, G'Nort is constantly shown as being very incompetent, and apparently he is only in the Green Lantern Corps because "[[Ultimate Job Security|an influential uncle pulled a few strings]]". Since [[Alien Scrappy|he]], [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|Guy Gardner]], and [[Treacherous Advisor|Sinestro]] are apparently all that remain of the Corps, he tags along in their quest to defeat Despero. At the episode's climax, G'nort is given a simple but important task: drain Mogo's power battery into his ring so that Despero can't use Mogo as a weapon. All G'Nort needs to do to accomplish this is say the Green Lantern oath, which of course, he can't remember. As a result, Batman and Gardner almost get killed until G'Nort remembers that he's ''carrying a note with the oath written on it''. What makes this a [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] is that at the end of the episode, Batman insists that G'Nort is the one who deserves the credit for Despero's defeat. ''Why?'' Any remotely competent Green Lantern could've accomplished what G'Nort did without using a cheat sheet. If anything, the episode proves G'Nort is completely unfit to be a Lantern. Made even worse because G'Nort doesn't even seem to like being one.
* The ''[[Batman: The Brave And The Bold|Batman the Brave And The Bold]]'' episode "The Eyes of Despero" introduces the rather inept Green Lantern G'Nort. Throughout the episode, G'Nort is constantly shown as being very incompetent, and apparently he is only in the Green Lantern Corps because "[[Ultimate Job Security|an influential uncle pulled a few strings]]". Since [[Alien Scrappy|he]], [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|Guy Gardner]], and [[Treacherous Advisor|Sinestro]] are apparently all that remain of the Corps, he tags along in their quest to defeat Despero. At the episode's climax, G'nort is given a simple but important task: drain Mogo's power battery into his ring so that Despero can't use Mogo as a weapon. All G'Nort needs to do to accomplish this is say the Green Lantern oath, which of course, he can't remember. As a result, Batman and Gardner almost get killed until G'Nort remembers that he's ''carrying a note with the oath written on it''. What makes this a [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] is that at the end of the episode, Batman insists that G'Nort is the one who deserves the credit for Despero's defeat. ''Why?'' Any remotely competent Green Lantern could've accomplished what G'Nort did without using a cheat sheet. If anything, the episode proves G'Nort is completely unfit to be a Lantern. Made even worse because G'Nort doesn't even seem to like being one.
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* ''[[Exo Squad]]'' has one in the episode "Blitzkrieg." JT attempts to belay an order given by his superior that calls for the fastest ships in the Exo fleet to leave behind the slower ones to get to Earth as fast as possible. This plan cuts the fleet's strength in half and dooms the entire fleet AND, in their inevitable defeat, humanity as a whole. At JT's trial, despite the fact that it's clear that the order given would doom homo sapiens to enslavement, JT is sentenced to death. Why? Simply because he admitted to disobeying the order. Once he admits to disobeying it, no further debate is held.
* ''[[Exo Squad]]'' has one in the episode "Blitzkrieg." JT attempts to belay an order given by his superior that calls for the fastest ships in the Exo fleet to leave behind the slower ones to get to Earth as fast as possible. This plan cuts the fleet's strength in half and dooms the entire fleet AND, in their inevitable defeat, humanity as a whole. At JT's trial, despite the fact that it's clear that the order given would doom homo sapiens to enslavement, JT is sentenced to death. Why? Simply because he admitted to disobeying the order. Once he admits to disobeying it, no further debate is held.
** To be fair the guy behind the trial was a [[General Ripper]] clearly out to get JT (and everyone calls him out on it) and gets chewed out by the Admiral when he finds out, for both his stupid plan (which does almost gets everyone killed) and trying to kill one of the best pilots in the fleet.
** To be fair the guy behind the trial was a [[General Ripper]] clearly out to get JT (and everyone calls him out on it) and gets chewed out by the Admiral when he finds out, for both his stupid plan (which does almost gets everyone killed) and trying to kill one of the best pilots in the fleet.
* In this children's show ''[[Caillou]]'', the main protagonist Caillou is excited about going to the circus with his friends. When his little sister wants to come he tells her no. She starts crying and his father reprimands him saying his friends might not even take him to the circus and he's all like "BUT THEY PROMISED!" The episode then starts giving out [[An Aesop]] about keeping promises. WHAT. THE. HELL. His friends' parents DIDN'T EVEN CALL THE FUCKING HOUSE TO TELL THEM THAT THEY CHANGED PLANS! The main point is that Caillou was being disrespectful (as usual) to his sister and not that his friends blew him off (which they never did)!
* In this children's show ''[[Caillou]]'', the main protagonist Caillou is excited about going to the circus with his friends. When his little sister wants to come he tells her no. She starts crying and his father reprimands him saying his friends might not even take him to the circus and he's all like "BUT THEY PROMISED!" The episode then starts giving out [[An Aesop]] about keeping promises. WHAT. THE. HELL. His friends' parents DIDN'T EVEN CALL THE FUCKING HOUSE TO TELL THEM THAT THEY CHANGED PLANS! The main point is that Caillou was being disrespectful (as usual) to his sister and not that his friends blew him off (which they never did)!
** Oh, there's an even '''bigger''' [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] than that. In another episode, Caillou tells his Mom that he thinks some strange man (who he doesn't even know, obviously) is scary. So, what does the Mom do? Does she talk to the man and show Caillou that you can't judge people by how they look? Nope, she has Caillou spend some time at the man's house [[Punctuated for Emphasis|All. By. Himself.]] Let me remind everyone that this is a '''complete and utter stranger''' that neither Caillou or his Mom have ever met before. [[Sarcasm Mode|Great parenting there, Caillou's Mom!]]
** Oh, there's an even '''bigger''' [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] than that. In another episode, Caillou tells his Mom that he thinks some strange man (who he doesn't even know, obviously) is scary. So, what does the Mom do? Does she talk to the man and show Caillou that you can't judge people by how they look? Nope, she has Caillou spend some time at the man's house [[Punctuated! For! Emphasis!|All. By. Himself.]] Let me remind everyone that this is a '''complete and utter stranger''' that neither Caillou or his Mom have ever met before. [[Sarcasm Mode|Great parenting there, Caillou's Mom!]]
*** This was probably intended to be a more rational, less scare 'em straight alternative to the equally [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|WallBanger-ish]] [[Too Smart for Strangers]] school of shows about strangers that were prevalent in the 80s, yet it apparently didn't occur to the writers that there might be a happy medium between the two approaches...
*** This was probably intended to be a more rational, less scare 'em straight alternative to the equally [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|WallBanger-ish]] [[Too Smart for Strangers]] school of shows about strangers that were prevalent in the 80s, yet it apparently didn't occur to the writers that there might be a happy medium between the two approaches...
* What happened to Baxter Stockman in [[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1987|the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon]] in "Revenge of the Fly". In the episode, he's turned half the town into bug mutants and the only way to change them back is by using Shredder's Retromutagen Ray on them. All fine and dandy, but why didn't the turtles think to use it on Baxter Stockman, whose entire motivation for revenge on the turtles is the fact that he's a giant mutant fly and that he wants to be human again? Instead they kick Baxter into a dimension portal (that he's [[Idiot Ball|conveniently standing next to]]), wrestle the gun away from him, shut off the machine and strand him in another dimension, and then destroy the gun. [[What the Hell, Hero?]]?
* What happened to Baxter Stockman in [[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1987|the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon]] in "Revenge of the Fly". In the episode, he's turned half the town into bug mutants and the only way to change them back is by using Shredder's Retromutagen Ray on them. All fine and dandy, but why didn't the turtles think to use it on Baxter Stockman, whose entire motivation for revenge on the turtles is the fact that he's a giant mutant fly and that he wants to be human again? Instead they kick Baxter into a dimension portal (that he's [[Idiot Ball|conveniently standing next to]]), wrestle the gun away from him, shut off the machine and strand him in another dimension, and then destroy the gun. [[What the Hell, Hero?]]?
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** Actually, if I remember correctly, Baxter took the gun specifically to use it on himself and jumped into the portal ''voluntarily'' to get away from the Turtles; they jumped in after him and only had enough time to get the gun from him and escape before the portal closed. The banging doesn't end there, though. They destroy the gun after restoring the city to normal, which makes you wonder why they wouldn't use it on ''Splinter'' beforehand - until you remember that Splinter had long ago accepted and preferred his fate. So how in the world was the gun back in perfect working condition when they use it on the mutant rats in "Wrath of the Rat King?"
** Actually, if I remember correctly, Baxter took the gun specifically to use it on himself and jumped into the portal ''voluntarily'' to get away from the Turtles; they jumped in after him and only had enough time to get the gun from him and escape before the portal closed. The banging doesn't end there, though. They destroy the gun after restoring the city to normal, which makes you wonder why they wouldn't use it on ''Splinter'' beforehand - until you remember that Splinter had long ago accepted and preferred his fate. So how in the world was the gun back in perfect working condition when they use it on the mutant rats in "Wrath of the Rat King?"
* Gaia from ''[[Captain Planet and the Planeteers]]'' and her obvious [[The Gods Must Be Lazy]] way of doing things. She sends five teenagers with magic rings out to deal with the villains with little more than a "I will be with you in spirit," and at no point do they adequately explore just what she is doing all the while that is more important than taking an active role in the missions. Yes, a couple of the badguys, specifically Greedly and Sludge, are total losers who the average 8-year-old child could easily thwart, but at least one of them was near-godlike in power and indeed was supposed to be Gaia's opposite number. Instead of getting off her divine ass and deal with this dude personally like any good goddess should, she pretty much leaves it to the kids as usual. Seriously?!
* Gaia from ''[[Captain Planet and the Planeteers]]'' and her obvious [[The Gods Must Be Lazy]] way of doing things. She sends five teenagers with magic rings out to deal with the villains with little more than a "I will be with you in spirit," and at no point do they adequately explore just what she is doing all the while that is more important than taking an active role in the missions. Yes, a couple of the badguys, specifically Greedly and Sludge, are total losers who the average 8-year-old child could easily thwart, but at least one of them was near-godlike in power and indeed was supposed to be Gaia's opposite number. Instead of getting off her divine ass and deal with this dude personally like any good goddess should, she pretty much leaves it to the kids as usual. Seriously?!
** Pretty much every episode of ''Captain Planet'' contains at least one Wall Banger, but "The Numbers Game" takes the cake for taking [[The Complainer Is Always Wrong]] [[Up to Eleven]]. First, it's an episode teaching [[Clueless Aesop|ten-year-old viewers about proper reproductive choices]]. [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|Not exactly friendly for any large families watching]], but let's move on. At the beginning, ''Wheeler'' is the one who believes this, and gets called out at the others for arguing that people shouldn't have more kids than they can afford, telling him children shouldn't "just be for the rich" or something. Then Wheeler falls asleep and dreams that he and Linka are married with [[Massive Numbered Siblings|seven or eight kids and another on the way]]. This decision apparently caused the world to become a polluted dystopia, because of course one large family is enough to use all of Hope Island's resources. In the dream the other Planeteers are ''still'' calling him out, this time for having so many kids ([[Double Standard|but not Linka, because obviously she had no say in this]]). Wheeler gets one throwaway line pointing out that dream!Kwame is also acting irresponsible (he has two kids but is very wasteful), and then is ignored. When Wheeler wakes up he tells Linka that he doesn't ever want to have more than two kids, having evidently learned a lesson...except it was a lesson he ''already knew beforehand!'' Meanwhile, the other Planeteers presumably still think he's a jerk for not liking kids.
** Pretty much every episode of ''Captain Planet'' contains at least one Wall Banger, but "The Numbers Game" takes the cake for taking [[The Complainer Is Always Wrong]] [[Up to Eleven]]. First, it's an episode teaching [[Clueless Aesop|ten-year-old viewers about proper reproductive choices]]. [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|Not exactly friendly for any large families watching]], but let's move on. At the beginning, ''Wheeler'' is the one who believes this, and gets called out at the others for arguing that people shouldn't have more kids than they can afford, telling him children shouldn't "just be for the rich" or something. Then Wheeler falls asleep and dreams that he and Linka are married with [[Massive Numbered Siblings|seven or eight kids and another on the way]]. This decision apparently caused the world to become a polluted dystopia, because of course one large family is enough to use all of Hope Island's resources. In the dream the other Planeteers are ''still'' calling him out, this time for having so many kids ([[Double Standard|but not Linka, because obviously she had no say in this]]). Wheeler gets one throwaway line pointing out that dream!Kwame is also acting irresponsible (he has two kids but is very wasteful), and then is ignored. When Wheeler wakes up he tells Linka that he doesn't ever want to have more than two kids, having evidently learned a lesson...except it was a lesson he ''already knew beforehand!'' Meanwhile, the other Planeteers presumably still think he's a jerk for not liking kids.
*** Because Wheeler is the guy who everyone is supposed to lecture, cause he's American. [[Sarcasm Mode|And as you know, Americans are all loud, wasteful louts who need to be lead around by the hand or else they'd hurt themselves]]. Makes you wonder why [[Mother Earth|Gaia]] even gave him a ring to begin with.
*** Because Wheeler is the guy who everyone is supposed to lecture, cause he's American. [[Sarcasm Mode|And as you know, Americans are all loud, wasteful louts who need to be lead around by the hand or else they'd hurt themselves]]. Makes you wonder why [[Mother Earth|Gaia]] even gave him a ring to begin with.
**** The stereotyping looks even more ridiculous when you remember that Wheeler (like every other member of the group, save for Gi) hails from ''a poor, working-class family.'' His characterization might be understandable if he was middle or upper-class American, but as it was there was absolutely ''no reason'' for his wasteful behavior.
**** The stereotyping looks even more ridiculous when you remember that Wheeler (like every other member of the group, save for Gi) hails from ''a poor, working-class family.'' His characterization might be understandable if he was middle or upper-class American, but as it was there was absolutely ''no reason'' for his wasteful behavior.
* ''[[Silverhawks]]'' had a hideous one with "The Fanta-Screen." The Mob comes up with a device that [[Lotus Eater Machine|purports to enthrall its victim by showing them their greatest fantasy]]. One by one, the Hawks are taken down and strapped into the machine until the only team member to escape busts them out. When they're comparing notes in the coda? ''They all dreamed the same thing;'' turning into a big bird and swooping up the [[Big Bad]] in their claws. A ''golden'' opportunity for [[Character Development]] and [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]. Even ''[[G.I. Joe]]'' and ''[[Thundercats]]'' handled the concept better!
* ''[[Silverhawks]]'' had a hideous one with "The Fanta-Screen." The Mob comes up with a device that [[Lotus Eater Machine|purports to enthrall its victim by showing them their greatest fantasy]]. One by one, the Hawks are taken down and strapped into the machine until the only team member to escape busts them out. When they're comparing notes in the coda? ''They all dreamed the same thing;'' turning into a big bird and swooping up the [[Big Bad]] in their claws. A ''golden'' opportunity for [[Character Development]] and [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]. Even ''[[G.I. Joe]]'' and ''[[Thundercats]]'' handled the concept better!
* ''[[Loonatics Unleashed]]'' had one in "The Black Cloak of Velvet". In the beginning, Duck and Tech make a bet that Duck can't go one week without using technology. Duck manages to keep his end until the climax, when he uses his cell phone to free Tech from his [[Brainwashed|brainwashing]]. Tech response is to collect his reward for winning and mock him. Even though Duck saved the day, everyone still treats him like a [[Butt Monkey]]. What the hell?
* ''[[Loonatics Unleashed]]'' had one in "The Black Cloak of Velvet". In the beginning, Duck and Tech make a bet that Duck can't go one week without using technology. Duck manages to keep his end until the climax, when he uses his cell phone to free Tech from his [[Brainwashed|brainwashing]]. Tech response is to collect his reward for winning and mock him. Even though Duck saved the day, everyone still treats him like a [[Butt Monkey]]. What the hell?
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* ''[[The Cleveland Show]]'': The episode "Terry Unmarried". [[Seth MacFarlane]] and his crew showed that not all gay guys act like the [[Camp Gay|stereotype.]] Ok, cool. Cleveland realizes he's in a gay bar because of the presence of fat chicks. Sure, why not? Problem 1: Terry has never shown signs of being gay. In one episode he's a stripper for a female audience (and even has sex with a few of them). Problem 2: He says that he had sex with a lot of women and a few guys. They just say he's gay and not say... Oh what's it called, being attracted to both men and women.. '''BISEXUAL.''' So in every show you make, a man ([[Girl-On-Girl Is Hot|not women by the way]]) has to be either gay or straight, [[No Bisexuals|never bi]], right Seth and crew?!
* ''[[The Cleveland Show]]'': The episode "Terry Unmarried". [[Seth MacFarlane]] and his crew showed that not all gay guys act like the [[Camp Gay|stereotype.]] Ok, cool. Cleveland realizes he's in a gay bar because of the presence of fat chicks. Sure, why not? Problem 1: Terry has never shown signs of being gay. In one episode he's a stripper for a female audience (and even has sex with a few of them). Problem 2: He says that he had sex with a lot of women and a few guys. They just say he's gay and not say... Oh what's it called, being attracted to both men and women.. '''BISEXUAL.''' So in every show you make, a man ([[Girl-On-Girl Is Hot|not women by the way]]) has to be either gay or straight, [[No Bisexuals|never bi]], right Seth and crew?!
* Even ''[[South Park]]'' is not immune to Wall-Banger moments. There's the fact an entire episode is dedicated to Wendy breaking up with Stan when the episode itself could have triggered ''after'' {{spoiler|Wendy kissed Cartman (to Stan's dismay)}}. Neither [[Negative Continuity]], [[Rule of Drama]], nor [[Rule of Funny]] even ''begin'' to justify this chronological discrepancy of when both episodes aired.
* Even ''[[South Park]]'' is not immune to Wall-Banger moments. There's the fact an entire episode is dedicated to Wendy breaking up with Stan when the episode itself could have triggered ''after'' {{spoiler|Wendy kissed Cartman (to Stan's dismay)}}. Neither [[Negative Continuity]], [[Rule of Drama]], nor [[Rule of Funny]] even ''begin'' to justify this chronological discrepancy of when both episodes aired.
** In the episode "Crack Baby Athletic Association" they juxtapose college athletes with slaves explaining that other people make money off them and in return they get nothing. Seriously? I'd say that a full scholarship, a free ride through college, and a gateway to the professional leagues is a little more than nothing!
** In the episode "Crack Baby Athletic Association" they juxtapose college athletes with slaves explaining that other people make money off them and in return they get nothing. Seriously? I'd say that a full scholarship, a free ride through college, and a gateway to the professional leagues is a little more than nothing!
** The ending to "Ass Burgers", which {{spoiler|tosses away any hope of a new start with an [[Ass Pull]] of [[Status Quo Is God|a reunion of Stan's parents]]}}.
** The ending to "Ass Burgers", which {{spoiler|tosses away any hope of a new start with an [[Ass Pull]] of [[Status Quo Is God|a reunion of Stan's parents]]}}.
* The [[Looney Tunes]] episode called "''Canned Feud''" is a prime example. Sylvester's family goes on vacation but forgets to put him out. Fortunately he finds a cupboard full of canned tuna and cat food, but discovers that he also needs a can opener. Predictably [[Villain Protagonist|a mean mouse]] has the ''only'' can opener, and the rest of the cartoon is the poor cat trying either to get it or find a way to open the cans without it. Then when [[Throw the Dog a Bone|he finally gets it]] he finds out [[Yank the Dog's Chain|that the cupboard has been locked]] and the mouse has the key. I have to wonder '''why''' did they make this episode?
* The [[Looney Tunes]] episode called "''Canned Feud''" is a prime example. Sylvester's family goes on vacation but forgets to put him out. Fortunately he finds a cupboard full of canned tuna and cat food, but discovers that he also needs a can opener. Predictably [[Villain Protagonist|a mean mouse]] has the ''only'' can opener, and the rest of the cartoon is the poor cat trying either to get it or find a way to open the cans without it. Then when [[Throw the Dog a Bone|he finally gets it]] he finds out [[Yank the Dog's Chain|that the cupboard has been locked]] and the mouse has the key. I have to wonder '''why''' did they make this episode?
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* In the ''[[Jimmy Two-Shoes|Jimmy Two Shoes]]'' episode "Something About Herman" Heloise disguises herself as a boy to hang out with Jimmy and Beezy, but at the end spoiler:it turns out it really was Heloise's identical cousin Herman, even though we clearly saw ''Heloise'' putting on the disguise earlier, not her identical cousin Herman!
* In the ''[[Jimmy Two-Shoes|Jimmy Two Shoes]]'' episode "Something About Herman" Heloise disguises herself as a boy to hang out with Jimmy and Beezy, but at the end spoiler:it turns out it really was Heloise's identical cousin Herman, even though we clearly saw ''Heloise'' putting on the disguise earlier, not her identical cousin Herman!
* ''[[X-Men: Evolution|X-Men Evolution]]'' had a jarring one in the episode "Joyride". In short, Avalanche, [[Villain Decay|a villain who lost all negative traits]] [[Character Derailment|and personality]] for the sake of an [[Romantic Plot Tumor|unneeded]] [[Strangled by the Red String|romance plot with Kitty]], joins the X-Men. He refuses to put any effort into learning and instead flirts with Kitty, causing Scott to mistrust him more than he did originally and (justifyibly) give him a hard time. Then some of the newer students start to take Joyrides with the X-Vehicles. Lance is accused after he purposely starts to act suspicious for the sake of screwing with Scott. [[Idiot Plot|No one thinks to check, like say, HAVE THE TWO TELEPATHS READ HIS MIND OR THE ADVANCED SENSE-POSSESSING TEACHER JUST SNIFF THE CARS.]] In the end, Lance saves the kids from acting too stupid, they confess, Scott apologizes, Lance then quits because he's too lazy, [[Fan Dumb|and the fans take this as a sign that Scott is a douche who drove Lance away.]] Sigh.
* ''[[X-Men: Evolution|X-Men Evolution]]'' had a jarring one in the episode "Joyride". In short, Avalanche, [[Villain Decay|a villain who lost all negative traits]] [[Character Derailment|and personality]] for the sake of an [[Romantic Plot Tumor|unneeded]] [[Strangled by the Red String|romance plot with Kitty]], joins the X-Men. He refuses to put any effort into learning and instead flirts with Kitty, causing Scott to mistrust him more than he did originally and (justifyibly) give him a hard time. Then some of the newer students start to take Joyrides with the X-Vehicles. Lance is accused after he purposely starts to act suspicious for the sake of screwing with Scott. [[Idiot Plot|No one thinks to check, like say, HAVE THE TWO TELEPATHS READ HIS MIND OR THE ADVANCED SENSE-POSSESSING TEACHER JUST SNIFF THE CARS.]] In the end, Lance saves the kids from acting too stupid, they confess, Scott apologizes, Lance then quits because he's too lazy, [[Fan Dumb|and the fans take this as a sign that Scott is a douche who drove Lance away.]] Sigh.
** The entire [[Girls Night Out Episode]] makes this troper smash his head into brick. Basically, Scot interferes in a training exercise being done by Amara, who's being watched over by Jean. When disaster strikes, and Scott saves them, Jean flies off the handle when Scott makes a [[Damsel in Distress|bad joke]]. Scott obviously feels bad about this and tries to apologize, and Jean herself even says she know Scott meant nothing off color about it! But when [[Jerk Jock]] Duncan comes around and makes Jean mad, again, she flips out and out of nowhere turns into [[Straw Feminist]]. Later in the episode, Jean, Amara, Tabitha, Rogue, and Kitty form an [[Amazon Brigade|all female]] vigilante group to prove they just as capable as the guys. What? Since when was it in question that the girls weren't as good as the boys? Has Rogue not repeatedly been a major point in saving the day at least twice in each season? Is Jean not [[Doomed by Canon|destined]] to become a cosmic horror? Basically, the entire thing starts because Jean is just PMSing at every male she sees.
** The entire [[Girls' Night Out Episode]] makes this troper smash his head into brick. Basically, Scot interferes in a training exercise being done by Amara, who's being watched over by Jean. When disaster strikes, and Scott saves them, Jean flies off the handle when Scott makes a [[Damsel in Distress|bad joke]]. Scott obviously feels bad about this and tries to apologize, and Jean herself even says she know Scott meant nothing off color about it! But when [[Jerk Jock]] Duncan comes around and makes Jean mad, again, she flips out and out of nowhere turns into [[Straw Feminist]]. Later in the episode, Jean, Amara, Tabitha, Rogue, and Kitty form an [[Amazon Brigade|all female]] vigilante group to prove they just as capable as the guys. What? Since when was it in question that the girls weren't as good as the boys? Has Rogue not repeatedly been a major point in saving the day at least twice in each season? Is Jean not [[Doomed by Canon|destined]] to become a cosmic horror? Basically, the entire thing starts because Jean is just PMSing at every male she sees.
* An episode of ''[[Babar]]: The Adventures Of Badou'' has Badou and Monroe(?) saving Sleek (A wild black panther) from a poacher that wants to capture and sell her. Badou's reasoning is that nobody should be locked in a cage, not even Sleek. Um, Badou? I'm sure your heart was in the right place, but, aren't you forgetting something? Like maybe the fact that Sleek has been known to try to attack and kill '''anyone''' who enters her territory including you? Locking her up would be a ''good'' thing because then she wouldn't be able to go around attacking any innocent people that head into the jungle.
* An episode of ''[[Babar]]: The Adventures Of Badou'' has Badou and Monroe(?) saving Sleek (A wild black panther) from a poacher that wants to capture and sell her. Badou's reasoning is that nobody should be locked in a cage, not even Sleek. Um, Badou? I'm sure your heart was in the right place, but, aren't you forgetting something? Like maybe the fact that Sleek has been known to try to attack and kill '''anyone''' who enters her territory including you? Locking her up would be a ''good'' thing because then she wouldn't be able to go around attacking any innocent people that head into the jungle.
* The first episode of ''[[The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes|Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes]]'' ("Breakout") contains one. The 4 top-security prisons for supervillains are located in a Desert (good), in a mountain range (good) shrunk and being transported in a hoverplane (why? Why not 'shrunk and in a top security facility?) and at the bottom of New York Harbour! Even worse, all it takes is a power cut to cause total failure of the security systems! And the Hoverplane was on a course that also took it past New York! Did the Authorities want to cause a major crisis for the civilian population as soon as anything went wrong?
* The first episode of ''[[The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes|Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes]]'' ("Breakout") contains one. The 4 top-security prisons for supervillains are located in a Desert (good), in a mountain range (good) shrunk and being transported in a hoverplane (why? Why not 'shrunk and in a top security facility?) and at the bottom of New York Harbour! Even worse, all it takes is a power cut to cause total failure of the security systems! And the Hoverplane was on a course that also took it past New York! Did the Authorities want to cause a major crisis for the civilian population as soon as anything went wrong?
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* ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'':
* ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'':
** The episode "Secret Of My Excess" has one. Ok, so first Spike gets greedy from people giving him so many gifts (something he's not used to...despite that you'd think that Celestia, Twilight Sparkle's parents, and other people who knew Spike before the series began would give him gifts as well). Odd, but fine. Then, Spike starts growing larger and more powerful as he hoards more things. That's stretching the [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief]] a bit...But, it's a cartoon, so we'll let that pass. It's then explained that Spike's growth is a result of his greed and that the more he wants/obtains, the bigger he gets and they must stop him from being greedy to return him to normal. An interesting metaphor, if a bit overused. But, fine. But, then...''then'' it's explained that this is a '''normal''' aspect of a dragon's growth. (beat) [[Big "What?"|WHAT!?!]] Not only has this ''never'' been established before with the other dragon characters shown in the series (Yes, they did hoard treasure, but they didn't mindlessly grab at any random object they could reach. And they certainly weren't reduced to [[Hulk Speak]] like Spike was), but it doesn't make sense at ''all'' regarding the lesson that the episode is trying to convey. [[Lost Aesop|Spike's greed is normal, but it's bad so we have to remind him to be generous with others by having him remember how good he felt when he gave Rarity that gem?]] Wouldn't a better lesson be "It's ok to want things, but you should learn to be patient and not expect to get everything you want right away"?
** The episode "Secret Of My Excess" has one. Ok, so first Spike gets greedy from people giving him so many gifts (something he's not used to...despite that you'd think that Celestia, Twilight Sparkle's parents, and other people who knew Spike before the series began would give him gifts as well). Odd, but fine. Then, Spike starts growing larger and more powerful as he hoards more things. That's stretching the [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief]] a bit...But, it's a cartoon, so we'll let that pass. It's then explained that Spike's growth is a result of his greed and that the more he wants/obtains, the bigger he gets and they must stop him from being greedy to return him to normal. An interesting metaphor, if a bit overused. But, fine. But, then...''then'' it's explained that this is a '''normal''' aspect of a dragon's growth. (beat) [[Big "What?"|WHAT!?!]] Not only has this ''never'' been established before with the other dragon characters shown in the series (Yes, they did hoard treasure, but they didn't mindlessly grab at any random object they could reach. And they certainly weren't reduced to [[Hulk Speak]] like Spike was), but it doesn't make sense at ''all'' regarding the lesson that the episode is trying to convey. [[Lost Aesop|Spike's greed is normal, but it's bad so we have to remind him to be generous with others by having him remember how good he felt when he gave Rarity that gem?]] Wouldn't a better lesson be "It's ok to want things, but you should learn to be patient and not expect to get everything you want right away"?
** If you thought Pinkie got off easy for destroying Cranky's book, that's nothing compared to what her "friends" got away with in "Mmmystery on the Friendship Express." The former can at least be written off as an accident, the latter was completely selfish and slimy. Does it mean ''nothing'' to them that [[Butt Monkey|the Cakes]] poured their blood sweat and tears into the Mmm, while simultaneously taking care of two newborns? It doesn't matter how tasty it looked, it wasn't theirs to eat! The deus ex machina that took the heat off of them was such an [[Ass Pull]]. What really burns me up, is that we had episodes like ''Suited for Success'' where both sides of the conflict learn a lesson. Here however we see one of the most incredible [[Karma Houdini|Houdinis of the karma and lesson variety]]. Rather than ''"Dear Princess Celestia, today we learned that that we need to have better self-restraint, and that we should confess to our mistakes,"'' the lesson is some half-baked yarn about how Pinkie was in the wrong despite being practically the only person doing anything productive!
** If you thought Pinkie got off easy for destroying Cranky's book, that's nothing compared to what her "friends" got away with in "Mmmystery on the Friendship Express." The former can at least be written off as an accident, the latter was completely selfish and slimy. Does it mean ''nothing'' to them that [[Butt Monkey|the Cakes]] poured their blood sweat and tears into the Mmm, while simultaneously taking care of two newborns? It doesn't matter how tasty it looked, it wasn't theirs to eat! The deus ex machina that took the heat off of them was such an [[Ass Pull]]. What really burns me up, is that we had episodes like ''Suited for Success'' where both sides of the conflict learn a lesson. Here however we see one of the most incredible [[Karma Houdini|Houdinis of the karma and lesson variety]]. Rather than ''"Dear Princess Celestia, today we learned that that we need to have better self-restraint, and that we should confess to our mistakes,"'' the lesson is some half-baked yarn about how Pinkie was in the wrong despite being practically the only person doing anything productive!
* Unfortunately, [[Phineas and Ferb]] had a small one at the end of "Lights, Camera, Candace". Phineas and Ferb's movie is finished and according to the director type, it's being shown to a crowd of teens in a theater. The teens love it...until Doof's Age Accelerator<ref> -Inator</ref> zaps them causing them to turn old and flee the theater complaining about the noise. The director dude is like "Oh they didn't like it, tough break, boys." even though he ''specifically said that there were TEENAGERS in the theater'' and not senior citizens!
* Unfortunately, [[Phineas and Ferb]] had a small one at the end of "Lights, Camera, Candace". Phineas and Ferb's movie is finished and according to the director type, it's being shown to a crowd of teens in a theater. The teens love it...until Doof's Age Accelerator<ref> -Inator</ref> zaps them causing them to turn old and flee the theater complaining about the noise. The director dude is like "Oh they didn't like it, tough break, boys." even though he ''specifically said that there were TEENAGERS in the theater'' and not senior citizens!
** There's also a bigger one in ''Run Candace Run'', which revolves around Candace having to do three things-one for Jeremy, one for Mom, and one for Stacy[[What Happened to the Mouse?|(though Stacy's was never shown later on).]] However, it later on switches to the Johnsons' long lost family member, Annabelle, ''even though that had absolutely nothing to do with what was going on earlier.'' Later on, Candace accidentally reunites their long lost family member. [[Heartwarming Moments|Sure, that was nice and all,]] ''but what about the rest of the plot?'' Couldn't everyone who Candace had to help have just talked it over and come up with a solution?
** There's also a bigger one in ''Run Candace Run'', which revolves around Candace having to do three things-one for Jeremy, one for Mom, and one for Stacy[[What Happened to the Mouse?|(though Stacy's was never shown later on).]] However, it later on switches to the Johnsons' long lost family member, Annabelle, ''even though that had absolutely nothing to do with what was going on earlier.'' Later on, Candace accidentally reunites their long lost family member. [[Heartwarming Moments|Sure, that was nice and all,]] ''but what about the rest of the plot?'' Couldn't everyone who Candace had to help have just talked it over and come up with a solution?