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An evil (or [[Terror Hero]]/antihero) [[Warrior Therapist]] will use this knowledge to intimidate and unnerve his foes, gleefully deflating their egos and likely reminding the hero that they're really [[Not So Different]]; [[Hannibal Lecture|sometimes to the point of breaking their wills entirely.]] A good Warrior Therapist will deliver a lifechanging motivational speech and beat the everloving crap out of them while he's doing it. (See [[Defeat Means Friendship]].)
An evil (or [[Terror Hero]]/antihero) [[Warrior Therapist]] will use this knowledge to intimidate and unnerve his foes, gleefully deflating their egos and likely reminding the hero that they're really [[Not So Different]]; [[Hannibal Lecture|sometimes to the point of breaking their wills entirely.]] A good Warrior Therapist will deliver a lifechanging motivational speech and beat the everloving crap out of them while he's doing it. (See [[Defeat Means Friendship]].)


See also [[Talking the Monster To Death]] for another variation of this trope.
See also [[Talking the Monster to Death]] for another variation of this trope.
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** Another ''[[Rurouni Kenshin]]'' example: Hiko Seijuro. He did it both to Kenshin and to Fuji. [[Good Is Not Nice|Not in the nicest way, mind you.]]
** Another ''[[Rurouni Kenshin]]'' example: Hiko Seijuro. He did it both to Kenshin and to Fuji. [[Good Is Not Nice|Not in the nicest way, mind you.]]
** Sagara Sanosuke pulls it on a couple of guys, clearly in imitation of Kenshin but his in own style. Particularly his own [[Evil Mentor]], whose [[Freudian Excuse]] is really quite impressive. Watsuki does a pretty good job drawing backstories from actual historical circumstances.
** Sagara Sanosuke pulls it on a couple of guys, clearly in imitation of Kenshin but his in own style. Particularly his own [[Evil Mentor]], whose [[Freudian Excuse]] is really quite impressive. Watsuki does a pretty good job drawing backstories from actual historical circumstances.
* The title character of ''[[Naruto]]'' is the good kind, but tends to be [[Dunno What's Going On But|somewhat crude]] in his methods. It seems to work well, though -- on more than one occasion, he's [[Defeat Means Friendship|turned an enemy into an ally by means of a well-timed inspirational speech and a well-placed right hook]].
* The title character of ''[[Naruto]]'' is the good kind, but tends to be [[Dunno What's Going On, But...|somewhat crude]] in his methods. It seems to work well, though -- on more than one occasion, he's [[Defeat Means Friendship|turned an enemy into an ally by means of a well-timed inspirational speech and a well-placed right hook]].
** He has an even better track record with turning allies of convenience into actual friends through Warrior Therapy. It seems the writers responsible for the [[Filler]] plotlines can't do drama without having him doing this.
** He has an even better track record with turning allies of convenience into actual friends through Warrior Therapy. It seems the writers responsible for the [[Filler]] plotlines can't do drama without having him doing this.
** Other characters wield the same methodology to varying degrees, most notably Neji, whose supernatural vision and psychology training allow him to read significantly into an enemy's body language.
** Other characters wield the same methodology to varying degrees, most notably Neji, whose supernatural vision and psychology training allow him to read significantly into an enemy's body language.
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*** He shows it again after his battle with Aizen when he tells Kisuke Urahara that he believes Aizen was lonely due to his overwhelming power and skill isolating him from everyone else, and desired to find someone else like him.
*** He shows it again after his battle with Aizen when he tells Kisuke Urahara that he believes Aizen was lonely due to his overwhelming power and skill isolating him from everyone else, and desired to find someone else like him.
* ''[[Kannazuki no Miko]]'''s Chikane counts. Although shes not always effective, and resorts to more than words.
* ''[[Kannazuki no Miko]]'''s Chikane counts. Although shes not always effective, and resorts to more than words.
* ''[[Kenichi the Mightiest Disciple]]'' has racked up a fair number of [[Heel Face Turn|Heel Face Turns]], even the Elder Master has commented on his ability. And [[The Rival|Tanimoto]] has also reflected on it.
* ''[[Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple]]'' has racked up a fair number of [[Heel Face Turn|Heel Face Turns]], even the Elder Master has commented on his ability. And [[The Rival|Tanimoto]] has also reflected on it.
** An interesting variation happens during his epic fight with Sho Kano from YOMI. Here they both act as Warrior Therapists to each other -- Kano as an (anti-)villainous one and Kenichi as a good one. While Kano constantly points out to Kenichi how miserable Kenichi's fighting skills are compared to Kano's and concludes that the Ryozanpaku masters were "too gentle" to Kenichi, Kenichi counters by pointing out that it's exactly because of their kindness and love that he managed to persist in constantly improving his skills, [[Dysfunction Junction|while those in YOMI deeply in their souls actually hate martial arts]].
** An interesting variation happens during his epic fight with Sho Kano from YOMI. Here they both act as Warrior Therapists to each other -- Kano as an (anti-)villainous one and Kenichi as a good one. While Kano constantly points out to Kenichi how miserable Kenichi's fighting skills are compared to Kano's and concludes that the Ryozanpaku masters were "too gentle" to Kenichi, Kenichi counters by pointing out that it's exactly because of their kindness and love that he managed to persist in constantly improving his skills, [[Dysfunction Junction|while those in YOMI deeply in their souls actually hate martial arts]].
*** Which has a lot of [[Fridge Horror|Fridge]] [[Fridge Logic|Stockholm]] when you consider how constantly and gleefully the Ryozanpaku masters ''torture'' their shared apprentice. Which leads to more [[Fridge Horror]] when you realize that YOMI methods were ''even worse'' in their own way -- deliberately indoctrinating a philosophy based on ''killing people'' into children.
*** Which has a lot of [[Fridge Horror|Fridge]] [[Fridge Logic|Stockholm]] when you consider how constantly and gleefully the Ryozanpaku masters ''torture'' their shared apprentice. Which leads to more [[Fridge Horror]] when you realize that YOMI methods were ''even worse'' in their own way -- deliberately indoctrinating a philosophy based on ''killing people'' into children.
* Whenever [[Shugo Chara|Amu]] does her speech, you know the battle is over. NO exceptions.
* Whenever [[Shugo Chara|Amu]] does her speech, you know the battle is over. NO exceptions.
* Technically '[[Card Games|Duelist]]' Therapy, but used heavily in ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh 5 Ds]]'' by the protagonist Fudo Yuusei. Most of his duels in the first season tend to end up in a [[Defeat Means Friendship]] scenario, or just as a general means of befriending people in general, including [[Dark Magical Girl|Izayoi Aki]], who has to go several rounds with Yuusei before she [[Cursed With Awesome|gets]] [[Brainwashed and Crazy|over]] [[Power Incontinence|her]] [[More Than Mind Control|problems]].
* Technically '[[Card Games|Duelist]]' Therapy, but used heavily in ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's]]'' by the protagonist Fudo Yuusei. Most of his duels in the first season tend to end up in a [[Defeat Means Friendship]] scenario, or just as a general means of befriending people in general, including [[Dark Magical Girl|Izayoi Aki]], who has to go several rounds with Yuusei before she [[Cursed with Awesome|gets]] [[Brainwashed and Crazy|over]] [[Power Incontinence|her]] [[More Than Mind Control|problems]].
** This trope also certainly applies to the protagonists of the [[Yu-Gi-Oh|previous]] [[Yu-Gi-Oh GX|two]] series as well.
** This trope also certainly applies to the protagonists of the [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|previous]] [[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX|two]] series as well.
* [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Rei Ayanami]]. [[Apocalypse Maiden|Yes]], [[Emotionless Girl|that]] [[Kuudere|Rei]] [[The Woobie|Ayanami]]. Even though she is intended to be creepy and cold Rei still sets out to help Shinji, Asuka, even Ritsuko this way. [[Rebuild of Evangelion]] takes it further with her convincing Gendou to get closer to his son.
* [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Rei Ayanami]]. [[Apocalypse Maiden|Yes]], [[Emotionless Girl|that]] [[Kuudere|Rei]] [[The Woobie|Ayanami]]. Even though she is intended to be creepy and cold Rei still sets out to help Shinji, Asuka, even Ritsuko this way. [[Rebuild of Evangelion]] takes it further with her convincing Gendou to get closer to his son.
* Touma of ''[[To Aru Majutsu no Index]]'' has a few of these moments, including in his fight agianst Kanzaki where he called her out on her treatment of Index, and {{spoiler|Accelerator, twice. The first time was accidental, and he became a slightly better person by using Touma as an example, but the second time was deliberate. The results have yet to be seen.}} One of his skirimishes against Misaka, when she {{spoiler|was trying to [[Suicide By Cop|sacrifice herself against Accelerator]] in order to stop the Experiment,}} and he stopped her by not fighting probably counts as well.
* Touma of ''[[To Aru Majutsu no Index]]'' has a few of these moments, including in his fight agianst Kanzaki where he called her out on her treatment of Index, and {{spoiler|Accelerator, twice. The first time was accidental, and he became a slightly better person by using Touma as an example, but the second time was deliberate. The results have yet to be seen.}} One of his skirimishes against Misaka, when she {{spoiler|was trying to [[Suicide by Cop|sacrifice herself against Accelerator]] in order to stop the Experiment,}} and he stopped her by not fighting probably counts as well.
** He's the very image of this trope in the series, actually. {{spoiler|He is able to lecture Lessar 15 minutes straight about proper girl mannerisms that she gets literally worn out listening to it.}}
** He's the very image of this trope in the series, actually. {{spoiler|He is able to lecture Lessar 15 minutes straight about proper girl mannerisms that she gets literally worn out listening to it.}}
* ''[[Inuyasha]]'': Shishinki, an enemy of Inuyasha and Sesshoumaru's father, is an evil example. He deliberately turns up while Sesshoumaru is emotionally vulnerable fully aware of what happened and why Sesshoumaru couldn't fully master Tenseiga. Inuyasha's arrival allows him to immediately realise the half breed younger brother was chosen over Sesshoumaru to receive Tessaiga. Most of the fight consists of Shishinki insightfully exposing every single one of Sesshoumaru's fears over the meaning of the two swords and whether it's proof his father hated him. This culminates in the [[Awful Truth]], causing an [[Heroic BSOD]] that lasts beyond the fight and takes a while for Sesshoumaru to recover from.
* ''[[Inuyasha]]'': Shishinki, an enemy of Inuyasha and Sesshoumaru's father, is an evil example. He deliberately turns up while Sesshoumaru is emotionally vulnerable fully aware of what happened and why Sesshoumaru couldn't fully master Tenseiga. Inuyasha's arrival allows him to immediately realise the half breed younger brother was chosen over Sesshoumaru to receive Tessaiga. Most of the fight consists of Shishinki insightfully exposing every single one of Sesshoumaru's fears over the meaning of the two swords and whether it's proof his father hated him. This culminates in the [[Awful Truth]], causing an [[Heroic BSOD]] that lasts beyond the fight and takes a while for Sesshoumaru to recover from.
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** Scarecrow can also use it back, though. (Harley ... [[Cloudcuckoolander|can't]].)
** Scarecrow can also use it back, though. (Harley ... [[Cloudcuckoolander|can't]].)
* [[Superman]] has spent a good number of his battles simultaneously talking ''and'' beating some sense into his opponents. It's turned more than a few villains to a less destructive path.
* [[Superman]] has spent a good number of his battles simultaneously talking ''and'' beating some sense into his opponents. It's turned more than a few villains to a less destructive path.
* [[Spider Man]] has done this as a way to help villains such as The Lizard or Vermin. More often than not, he actually uses this in a way that is normally reserved for villains or anti-heroes: he humiliates them verbally, making them reckless. It has been revealed that a number of his foes have actually suffered some mental trauma because of this (then again, many of them were crazy already, so...)
* [[Spider-Man]] has done this as a way to help villains such as The Lizard or Vermin. More often than not, he actually uses this in a way that is normally reserved for villains or anti-heroes: he humiliates them verbally, making them reckless. It has been revealed that a number of his foes have actually suffered some mental trauma because of this (then again, many of them were crazy already, so...)


== Fan Fiction ==
== Fan Fiction ==


* A ''[[Star Trek the Next Generation]]'' fanfiction once gave a ''Klingon'' Counselor to a starbase captain. (This was a bit of a [[Take That]] to the character in question, who had once been highly against being commanded by [[Ridiculously Human Robot|Data]] for the reason that computers don't make good captains, just like Klingons wouldn't make good counselors.)
* A ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'' fanfiction once gave a ''Klingon'' Counselor to a starbase captain. (This was a bit of a [[Take That]] to the character in question, who had once been highly against being commanded by [[Ridiculously Human Robot|Data]] for the reason that computers don't make good captains, just like Klingons wouldn't make good counselors.)


== Film ==
== Film ==
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** Well, he tried. Vader didn't turn until the Emperor [[Papa Wolf|tried to kill Luke]] [[Too Dumb to Live|right in front of him]].
** Well, he tried. Vader didn't turn until the Emperor [[Papa Wolf|tried to kill Luke]] [[Too Dumb to Live|right in front of him]].
** The [[Big Bad|Emperor]] gets to play this part on Luke as he feels whatever is going on inside Luke and brings it up to goad him. {{spoiler|Fortunately for the good guys Luke doesn't give in.}}
** The [[Big Bad|Emperor]] gets to play this part on Luke as he feels whatever is going on inside Luke and brings it up to goad him. {{spoiler|Fortunately for the good guys Luke doesn't give in.}}
* Endearingly enough, Maxwell Smart Agent 86 in the 2008 film ''[[Get Smart (Film)|Get Smart]]'' embodies this trope in a simultaneous [[Crowning Moment of Funny]] and [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] where he [[Talking the Monster To Death|reaches out to the feelings]] of [[The Dragon|the giant henchman]], empathizes with his troubled family life, [[Cooldown Hug|hugs him]] and [[Heel Face Turn|(possibly) turns him into a good guy.]]
* Endearingly enough, Maxwell Smart Agent 86 in the 2008 film ''[[Get Smart (film)|Get Smart]]'' embodies this trope in a simultaneous [[Crowning Moment of Funny]] and [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] where he [[Talking the Monster to Death|reaches out to the feelings]] of [[The Dragon|the giant henchman]], empathizes with his troubled family life, [[Cooldown Hug|hugs him]] and [[Heel Face Turn|(possibly) turns him into a good guy.]]
* [[The Silence of the Lambs|Dr. Lecter]]. Literally.
* [[The Silence of the Lambs|Dr. Lecter]]. Literally.
* Li Mubai and Shu-Lien from ''[[Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon]]''.
* Li Mubai and Shu-Lien from ''[[Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon]]''.
* Rafiki from ''[[The Lion King]]'' might qualify, although he's far more Therapist/Mentor than Warrior. (But he can still kick your ass when required.)
* Rafiki from ''[[The Lion King]]'' might qualify, although he's far more Therapist/Mentor than Warrior. (But he can still kick your ass when required.)
* [[Inverted Trope|Inverted]] [[Unreliable Narrator|(possibly)]] in ''[[Hero (Film)|Hero]]'', in which Nameless claims to be able to understand Broken Sword's swordsmanship by studying his calligraphy.
* [[Inverted Trope|Inverted]] [[Unreliable Narrator|(possibly)]] in ''[[Hero (film)|Hero]]'', in which Nameless claims to be able to understand Broken Sword's swordsmanship by studying his calligraphy.
* In ''[[Pirates of the Caribbean]]'', Jack Sparrow tries this on Will Turner the first time they meet.
* In ''[[Pirates of the Caribbean]]'', Jack Sparrow tries this on Will Turner the first time they meet.
* Done with much [[Narm]] by [[Steven Seagal]] in ''[[On Deadly Ground]]'':
* Done with much [[Narm]] by [[Steven Seagal]] in ''[[On Deadly Ground]]'':
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* [[Ender's Game|Ender Wiggin.]]
* [[Ender's Game|Ender Wiggin.]]
** He specializes in knowing his enemies. Knowing them ''completely'', at least as well as they know themselves. In the moment that he achieves this level of understanding, he naturally loves them. [[Mood Whiplash|And then he destroys them.]] It's not good for him, emotionally. So he loses the 'warrior' part once they discharge him as [[Tyke Bomb]] grand admiral.
** He specializes in knowing his enemies. Knowing them ''completely'', at least as well as they know themselves. In the moment that he achieves this level of understanding, he naturally loves them. [[Mood Whiplash|And then he destroys them.]] It's not good for him, emotionally. So he loses the 'warrior' part once they discharge him as [[Tyke Bomb]] grand admiral.
* Rider in ''[[Fate Zero]]''. Within one [[Drinking Contest]]/conversation on the right way to be king, he manages what took Shirou and Archer two weeks. Irisviel hits the [[Reset Button]] by telling her that even if she sucked as a king, at least she is essentially the embodiment of (self sacrificing) ideals. Since this is a prequel, it's not like she's going to magically get better ''now'' right?
* Rider in ''[[Fate/Zero]]''. Within one [[Drinking Contest]]/conversation on the right way to be king, he manages what took Shirou and Archer two weeks. Irisviel hits the [[Reset Button]] by telling her that even if she sucked as a king, at least she is essentially the embodiment of (self sacrificing) ideals. Since this is a prequel, it's not like she's going to magically get better ''now'' right?
** Speaking of Shirou and Archer, their match in the Unlimited Blade Works route has them both fall into this route. However, {{spoiler|the sheer mechanics of fighting your cynical future self over ideals is... complicated. Would that be considered extreme introspection?}} Suffice to say there are pages upon pages of philosophical debate, and in the [[Nasuverse]], your conviction equates directly to how much ass you kick.
** Speaking of Shirou and Archer, their match in the Unlimited Blade Works route has them both fall into this route. However, {{spoiler|the sheer mechanics of fighting your cynical future self over ideals is... complicated. Would that be considered extreme introspection?}} Suffice to say there are pages upon pages of philosophical debate, and in the [[Nasuverse]], your conviction equates directly to how much ass you kick.
* Used by Tavi in ''[[Codex Alera]]''. In particular in ''Captain's Fury'' he manages to defeat a ''vastly'' superior (but [[Ax Crazy|mentally unbalanced]]) opponent in a swordfight by attacking her psychological weak points during a [[Blade Lock]], allowing him to defeat her because [[Sanity Has Advantages]].
* Used by Tavi in ''[[Codex Alera]]''. In particular in ''Captain's Fury'' he manages to defeat a ''vastly'' superior (but [[Ax Crazy|mentally unbalanced]]) opponent in a swordfight by attacking her psychological weak points during a [[Blade Lock]], allowing him to defeat her because [[Sanity Has Advantages]].
** This is one of the darker expressions of this trope. He uses what is in essence a ''[[Hannibal Lecture]]'' to ruthlessly assault her fragile mindset and then exploits ensuing reaction by impaling her.
** This is one of the darker expressions of this trope. He uses what is in essence a ''[[Hannibal Lecture]]'' to ruthlessly assault her fragile mindset and then exploits ensuing reaction by impaling her.
*** It's especially dark because the weakness he exploits in her is something he shares. Tavi is almost Mary Sue-like in his compassion for the fallen and eagerness to make allies, so to see him dredging up someone else's worst memories to get the advantage of them in a fight, especially considering that he can only do so because he has the same problem, was jarring.
*** It's especially dark because the weakness he exploits in her is something he shares. Tavi is almost Mary Sue-like in his compassion for the fallen and eagerness to make allies, so to see him dredging up someone else's worst memories to get the advantage of them in a fight, especially considering that he can only do so because he has the same problem, was jarring.
** Also used by Isana in ''Princeps' Fury.'' She challenges Antillus Raucus to the ''[[Duel to The Death|juris macto]]'' and proceeds to wear down his mental walls and reasoning in order to get him to agree to a truce against the foes he's been fighting and commit his Legions to a greater enemy. She's very nearly killed before finally succeeding.
** Also used by Isana in ''Princeps' Fury.'' She challenges Antillus Raucus to the ''[[Duel to the Death|juris macto]]'' and proceeds to wear down his mental walls and reasoning in order to get him to agree to a truce against the foes he's been fighting and commit his Legions to a greater enemy. She's very nearly killed before finally succeeding.


== Live Action TV ==
== Live Action TV ==
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* Locke on [[Lost]] has shown warrior therapist tendencies, although he's more likely to restrain or intimidate someone than actually fight them.
* Locke on [[Lost]] has shown warrior therapist tendencies, although he's more likely to restrain or intimidate someone than actually fight them.
** Hello? Benjamin Linus!
** Hello? Benjamin Linus!
* ''[[Lie to Me (TV)|Lie to Me]]'' is in general an action psychology show. Its main character, Cal Lightman, is a tooth and nails sort of psychoanalyst/interrogator, combining interrogation technique with the science of facial expressions he developed(in real life this science was developed by Paul Eckman). Lightman occasionally goes up against the odd [[Hannibal Lecter]] character, and ends up winning the inevitable game of [[Xanatos Speed Chess]] that results.
* ''[[Lie to Me (TV series)|Lie to Me]]'' is in general an action psychology show. Its main character, Cal Lightman, is a tooth and nails sort of psychoanalyst/interrogator, combining interrogation technique with the science of facial expressions he developed(in real life this science was developed by Paul Eckman). Lightman occasionally goes up against the odd [[Hannibal Lecter]] character, and ends up winning the inevitable game of [[Xanatos Speed Chess]] that results.
** And has his own [[Warrior Therapist]] in Gillian Foster, who was his shrink at the DOD before they went into business together.
** And has his own [[Warrior Therapist]] in Gillian Foster, who was his shrink at the DOD before they went into business together.


== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==


* In ''[[Planescape Torment]]'', Dak'kon, in addition to being a formidable swordsman, is a mystic and teacher. If the player character's stats are high enough, {{spoiler|you can end up analyzing and teaching ''him''.}}
* In ''[[Planescape: Torment]]'', Dak'kon, in addition to being a formidable swordsman, is a mystic and teacher. If the player character's stats are high enough, {{spoiler|you can end up analyzing and teaching ''him''.}}
** You can also discover that {{spoiler|one of your previous incarnations is the one who taught him most of what he knows to begin with.}}
** You can also discover that {{spoiler|one of your previous incarnations is the one who taught him most of what he knows to begin with.}}
* ''[[Mass Effect]]'''s Commander Shepard, when played as a Paragon, can end up spending about as much time counseling people as he or she does fighting. Renegade Shepard, meanwhile, is far more likely to [[Kill Him Already|just shoot people]], but can sometimes act as a much more cynical variety of [[Warrior Therapist]]. Either way, bullets appear to be quite integral to their therapeutic method.
* ''[[Mass Effect]]'''s Commander Shepard, when played as a Paragon, can end up spending about as much time counseling people as he or she does fighting. Renegade Shepard, meanwhile, is far more likely to [[Kill Him Already|just shoot people]], but can sometimes act as a much more cynical variety of [[Warrior Therapist]]. Either way, bullets appear to be quite integral to their therapeutic method.
** This trope is taken to its logical extreme when, if Shepard consistently attempts to reason with the [[Big Bad]] Saren during combat, {{spoiler|Saren will acknowledge Shepard as correct and [[Talking the Monster To Death|shoot himself in the head!]]}}
** This trope is taken to its logical extreme when, if Shepard consistently attempts to reason with the [[Big Bad]] Saren during combat, {{spoiler|Saren will acknowledge Shepard as correct and [[Talking the Monster to Death|shoot himself in the head!]]}}
*** That is for a very logical reason though, as he doesn't have a much of a choice in the matter, or one at all, so it isn't that extreme.
*** That is for a very logical reason though, as he doesn't have a much of a choice in the matter, or one at all, so it isn't that extreme.
** Even moreso in [[Mass Effect 2]], where to [[Earn Your Happy Ending]] you have to solve your entire crew's problems, which range from dealing with an odd form of puberty to various forms of rescuing.
** Even moreso in [[Mass Effect 2]], where to [[Earn Your Happy Ending]] you have to solve your entire crew's problems, which range from dealing with an odd form of puberty to various forms of rescuing.
** Lampshaded in ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'', where Shepard will ask EDI if she has any issues "like an imperfect creator you could view as a twisted father figure or anything." When EDI asks why on Earth Shepard's asking those sorts of questions, Shepard'll comment that s/he's learned it's just easier to ask them sooner or later.
** Lampshaded in ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'', where Shepard will ask EDI if she has any issues "like an imperfect creator you could view as a twisted father figure or anything." When EDI asks why on Earth Shepard's asking those sorts of questions, Shepard'll comment that s/he's learned it's just easier to ask them sooner or later.
*** The role is also reversed many times in ''[[Mass Effect 3 (Video Game)|Mass Effect 3]]'', as the strain and responsibility Shepard has finally starts to grind him/her down. Everyone worries about him/her and do everything they can to ease the burden that s/he has and keep him/her sane to get the job done.
*** The role is also reversed many times in ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'', as the strain and responsibility Shepard has finally starts to grind him/her down. Everyone worries about him/her and do everything they can to ease the burden that s/he has and keep him/her sane to get the job done.
{{quote| '''Garrus:''' How about you Commander? How are you holding up?<br />
{{quote| '''Garrus:''' How about you Commander? How are you holding up?<br />
'''Shepard:''' There's only so much fight in a person, only so much death you can take, before...<br />
'''Shepard:''' There's only so much fight in a person, only so much death you can take, before...<br />
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** '''Ryu:''' No need to speak. Your fists told me everything I need to know about you.
** '''Ryu:''' No need to speak. Your fists told me everything I need to know about you.
* Kain R. Heinlein of ''[[Fatal Fury]]'' fame enjoys [[Hannibal Lecture|picking at his opponents]] with his victory quotes.
* Kain R. Heinlein of ''[[Fatal Fury]]'' fame enjoys [[Hannibal Lecture|picking at his opponents]] with his victory quotes.
* Several ''[[Final Fantasy (Franchise)|Final Fantasy]]'' villains are good at this. [[Final Fantasy VI (Video Game)|Kefka]] gives a nihilistic speech before you face him, talking to [[Final Fantasy X (Video Game)|Seymour]] about his "spiral of death" plan is a core feature of the battles with him, and [[Final Fantasy VII (Video Game)|Sephiroth]] gave Cloud a mental breakdown. Mind you, he only ever talks while fighting in newer titles.
* Several ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' villains are good at this. [[Final Fantasy VI|Kefka]] gives a nihilistic speech before you face him, talking to [[Final Fantasy X|Seymour]] about his "spiral of death" plan is a core feature of the battles with him, and [[Final Fantasy VII|Sephiroth]] gave Cloud a mental breakdown. Mind you, he only ever talks while fighting in newer titles.
** And [[Final Fantasy IV (Video Game)|Golbez]] from ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy (Video Game)|Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'' acts as the therapist for the heroes. Meaning he {{spoiler|is simulateously backstabbing EVERY other villain in the franchise and the ''god of discord''.}} All to make sure {{spoiler|his younger brother}} Cecil survives. Best. Brother. Ever.
** And [[Final Fantasy IV|Golbez]] from ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'' acts as the therapist for the heroes. Meaning he {{spoiler|is simulateously backstabbing EVERY other villain in the franchise and the ''god of discord''.}} All to make sure {{spoiler|his younger brother}} Cecil survives. Best. Brother. Ever.
* Due to the incredible importance of the target's emotional state to their plans, in ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' "Ansem," as well as most of Organization XIII have this as their M.O.
* Due to the incredible importance of the target's emotional state to their plans, in ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' "Ansem," as well as most of Organization XIII have this as their M.O.
* You ''can'' choose to be a [[Jerkass]] to your companions in ''[[Dragon Age]]'' ''Origins'', but helping them through their various issues rewards you with stat bonuses for them, the occasional unique (and sometimes useful) item, {{spoiler|and in Zevran's case, taking the effort to be friendly and supportive of him will avert his [[Face Heel Turn]] later in the game}}. The "Warrior" part comes into play since a few of your companions' Personal Quests, specifically Morrigan, Shale, and potentially Leiliana, involve combat. In Morrigan's case, {{spoiler|you have to fight a freaking DRAGON}}. The "Therapist" part usually comes in the conversations you hold with your companions right after the quests are completed. You can actually make {{spoiler|Alistair and Leiliana}} more cynical people right after their quests, depending on what you say to them.
* You ''can'' choose to be a [[Jerkass]] to your companions in ''[[Dragon Age]]'' ''Origins'', but helping them through their various issues rewards you with stat bonuses for them, the occasional unique (and sometimes useful) item, {{spoiler|and in Zevran's case, taking the effort to be friendly and supportive of him will avert his [[Face Heel Turn]] later in the game}}. The "Warrior" part comes into play since a few of your companions' Personal Quests, specifically Morrigan, Shale, and potentially Leiliana, involve combat. In Morrigan's case, {{spoiler|you have to fight a freaking DRAGON}}. The "Therapist" part usually comes in the conversations you hold with your companions right after the quests are completed. You can actually make {{spoiler|Alistair and Leiliana}} more cynical people right after their quests, depending on what you say to them.
* [[Knight Templar|Hakumen]], of all people, takes up this role, at least in regards to {{spoiler|his younger, time-displaced self, AKA}} Jin in ''[[Blaz Blue]]: Continuum Shift''.
* [[Knight Templar|Hakumen]], of all people, takes up this role, at least in regards to {{spoiler|his younger, time-displaced self, AKA}} Jin in ''[[Blaz Blue]]: Continuum Shift''.
* [[Rance (Franchise)|Rance]] despite being a [[Heroic Sociopath]] qualifies. Many normally competent and wise people become [[Horrible Judge of Character|Horrible Judges Of Character]] when trying to evaluate him. That's not to say that he always uses his psychologist skills for evil though. One notable example of the positive side of this trope is that in [[Sengoku Rance]], {{spoiler|he helped Kouhime recover from the trauma of being raped. This is extremely surprising because he himself is a serial rapist.}}
* [[Rance]] despite being a [[Heroic Sociopath]] qualifies. Many normally competent and wise people become [[Horrible Judge of Character|Horrible Judges Of Character]] when trying to evaluate him. That's not to say that he always uses his psychologist skills for evil though. One notable example of the positive side of this trope is that in [[Sengoku Rance]], {{spoiler|he helped Kouhime recover from the trauma of being raped. This is extremely surprising because he himself is a serial rapist.}}


== Tabletop Games ==
== Tabletop Games ==
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* Taken to its logical extreme [http://www.nobodylikesonions.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10736 here.] (WARNING: contains some gore)
* Taken to its logical extreme [http://www.nobodylikesonions.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10736 here.] (WARNING: contains some gore)
* ''[[Flipside (Webcomic)|Flipside]]'''s Maytag demonstrates early on in the comic that she can do this to people.
* ''[[Flipside]]'''s Maytag demonstrates early on in the comic that she can do this to people.
* Arguably, Karkat from ''[[Homestuck (Webcomic)|Homestuck]]''.
* Arguably, Karkat from ''[[Homestuck]]''.
** Almost half the cast is playing at therapist in ''Homestuck'' but by far Karkat, and to a lesser extent John, is the best.
** Almost half the cast is playing at therapist in ''Homestuck'' but by far Karkat, and to a lesser extent John, is the best.
** Rose claims that psychology is one of her hobbies and makes attempts at psychoanalyzing her friends early on, but as it turns out she's either not very good at it or has since lost interest.
** Rose claims that psychology is one of her hobbies and makes attempts at psychoanalyzing her friends early on, but as it turns out she's either not very good at it or has since lost interest.
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== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==


* Slade of ''[[Teen Titans (Animation)|Teen Titans]]'' is the master of the evil version of this skill.
* Slade of ''[[Teen Titans (animation)|Teen Titans]]'' is the master of the evil version of this skill.
** <s> Slade</s> Deathstroke does it in [[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|the comics]] too.
** <s> Slade</s> Deathstroke does it in [[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|the comics]] too.
* Iroh of ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' is a good master of this, offering advice on how to improve and find his enemies way in life even as he fights them. Of course, when he gives up on talk and gets to fighting, [[Tranquil Fury|that's when you know you're in trouble.]]
* Iroh of ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' is a good master of this, offering advice on how to improve and find his enemies way in life even as he fights them. Of course, when he gives up on talk and gets to fighting, [[Tranquil Fury|that's when you know you're in trouble.]]
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* Spellbinder of ''[[Batman Beyond]]'' is another villainous example. He was an actual psychiatrist who turned to villainy because he felt undercompensated for dealing with unruly teenagers while their parents paid their garbage men more money. He uses illusions and his knowledge of the human psyche to manipulate people by giving them what they think they want and what they want to believe. In one episode he frames Terry for murder by showing Commissioner Barbara Gordon an illusion of Terry beating Mad Stan to death. When he is eventually discovered and captured, he calls her out for being an [[Inspector Javert]] towards Terry, an accusation which seems to leave an impression on her.
* Spellbinder of ''[[Batman Beyond]]'' is another villainous example. He was an actual psychiatrist who turned to villainy because he felt undercompensated for dealing with unruly teenagers while their parents paid their garbage men more money. He uses illusions and his knowledge of the human psyche to manipulate people by giving them what they think they want and what they want to believe. In one episode he frames Terry for murder by showing Commissioner Barbara Gordon an illusion of Terry beating Mad Stan to death. When he is eventually discovered and captured, he calls her out for being an [[Inspector Javert]] towards Terry, an accusation which seems to leave an impression on her.
{{quote| '''Spellbinder:''' You were so ready to believe the worst. It was easy.}}
{{quote| '''Spellbinder:''' You were so ready to believe the worst. It was easy.}}
* Black Canary in ''[[Young Justice (Animation)|Young Justice]]''. Not only is she the team's trainer, she is also their therapist and had individual sessions with all of them, as seen in "Disordered" to help them deal with the events in "Failsafe".
* Black Canary in ''[[Young Justice (animation)|Young Justice]]''. Not only is she the team's trainer, she is also their therapist and had individual sessions with all of them, as seen in "Disordered" to help them deal with the events in "Failsafe".


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