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* ''[[The Legend of Koizumi]]'' seems to be heading in this direction, as not only does it play [[Stupid Jetpack Hitler]] and [[Ghostapo]] completely straight (there's a Nazi base on the ''Moon'', for crying out loud!) but Hitler is described as "the greatest sorceror of the twentieth century" and has ridiculous occultic [[Serious Business|mahjong]] powers. {{spoiler|He got in a psychic duel with [[Big Good|the Pope]], a man who literally had ''God on his side'', and won}}.

 

* The French series ''[[Mutafukaz]]'' has as the [[Big Bad]] a bunch of [[Shapeshifting]] [[Cosmic Horror]]s who have infiltrated all levels of the American government (including the President); their backstory not only shows they helped the Nazi party out, but also at one point [[Kill and Replace|killed and replaced]] him. Fortunately a [[Ancient Tradition|secret society]] of Mexican wrestlers saved the day (it's complicated...).

* In [[EC Comics]]' ''Weird Fantasy'' #14, the story "The Exile" concerns an alien criminal exiled to Earth. Three guesses what the twist ending is.

 

* In ''[[Team America: World Police]]'', {{spoiler|it turns out Kim Jong Il was an evil alien cockroach}}.

 

* In ''Prince Ombra'' by Roderick MacLeish, a supernatural evil from beyond time is periodically embodied on Earth to cause trouble. Last time around, it was Hitler.

* In ''The Secret Visitors'' by James White, aliens are trying to wipe out the human race so they can take Earth's riches for themselves. The protagonist learns that Hitler's mania was caused or at least aggravated by the aliens, who deliberately egged him on in the hope that the Second World War would do the job for them. (The first World War was all our own doing, though.)

* Implied in ''[[Operation Chaos]]'' by [[Poul Anderson]], where a group of demons in Hell includes one who bears a striking resemblance to Hitler (although the protagonist, being from an [[Alternate History]], doesn't recognise him).

* The [[Lensman]] prequel ''Triplanetary'' says that Hitler was actually an Eddorian agent in disguise. The same agent was also Kaiser Wilhelm and the guy who started [[World War III]]. (This would require him to be in two places at once, since Hitler and the Kaiser were both alive at the same time, but this is hardly the most implausible thing in ''Triplanetary'', which [[E. E. "Doc" Smith]] originally wrote as "a yarn in which scientific detail would not be bothered about, and in which his imagination would run riot". In ''First Lensman'' he compounds the improbability, perhaps lampshade-wise, by adding Mussolini to the list.)

* In the beginning of the ''[[Empire From the Ashes]]'' trilogy, Hitler is singled out as having been one of the starship mutineers who have been manipulating humanity since the rise of civilization. He was doing it [[For the Evulz]].

** In another novel by the same author, ''Autumn Visits'', Hitler had a supernatural clone, the Vector of Art, who competed with six others like him (e.g. Stalin's clone, the Vector of Power, who [[Kill and Replace|killed and replaced]] the original) for [[World Domination]] and lost.

* In James P. Hogan's ''Giants' Star'', Terrans discover that a group of humans from another star system have infiltrated us for millennia, teaching superstition and bigotry, trying to hamper our development and later to make us destroy ourselves. During a confrontation, a Terran spokesperson says the enemy intended [[World War II]] to be an all-out nuclear exchange, but didn't quite manage it, and asks:

* ''[[Harry Potter (novel)|Harry Potter]]'' strongly implies that the rise of Grindelwald and the First Wizarding War may have had something to do with the [[Second World War]]; both events take place during the same time frame and mirror each other in quite a few ways (for example, Grindelwald's imprisonment in a Spandau-like prison).

 

* ''[[The Tomorrow People]]'' episode "Hitler's Last Secret" had neo-Nazis possessed by the same alien power that had been Hitler.

* Related: On an episode of ''[[The X-Files]]'', they meet a [[Jerkass Genie]] who was responsible for Mussolini's rise and fall.

* In ''[[Grimm]],'' an episode had some ancient coins as an [[Artifact of Doom]], giving their holder great charisma, but were addictive and drove the user mad. The hero's partner and later his captain were under their influence, and the villains of the episode were searching for them. It turns out their effects were responsible for Hitler and several other historical [[Big Bad]]s.

 

* The ridiculous game ''[[Rocket Ranger]]'' didn't have Hitler, but it put forth that Nazis were aliens who established their base of operations on the moon.

* For a non-Hitler example, [[Oda Nobunaga]] gets this ''a lot''. The [[Onimusha]] series, that one anime "Black Lion" where he's an alien overlord from the future, another anime called [[Yotoden]] where he's part of a series of demons in an invasion, and so on.

** Subverted in [[Onimusha]]; Nobunaga starts out as human, gets an arrow through the throat, and is ''revived'' by demons to work for them - but winds up taking control of the demons who wanted him for a lackey!

 

* The webcomic ''[[Good Ship Chronicles]]'' reveals that Nazi jokes are no longer PC as it was discovered all Nazi activities were the result of an alien mind-probe.

 

 

* In ''[[The Ultimates]]'', it's revealed that aliens were highly involved with the Nazis. However, it's unclear how much of what the Nazis did was their idea, and in fact it seems like the Nazis had a greater influence on the aliens, as post-WWII, the aliens mention that they kept the [[Putting on the Reich|Nazi uniforms and symbols]] because they liked them.

** It is also implied that the aliens did not really approve of the racism and death camps, regarding them more like forgivable excesses for the greater good which, to the aliens, was the eradication of individuality.

 

* ''[[Downfall (film)|Downfall]]'' took some criticism in Germany for portraying Hitler as a flawed and broken human being rather than a [[Complete Monster]]. The director actually invoked this trope in his defense: if we continue to act like Hitler was some alien monster teleported to earth to do bad stuff, we as a nation and a race are never going to learn from the past.

 

* Played with in the ''[[Doctor Who]]'' [[Virgin New Adventures|New Adventures]] novel ''Timewyrm: Exodus'', where Hitler separately receives covert assistance from two different groups of aliens attempting to further their own ends—but neither is able to control him, and what he does with their assistance is all entirely his own idea.

 

 

* Played with in ''[[Persona 2]]: Innocent Sin''. Hitler is apparently revived using the power of rumors and a conspiracy theory that he escaped the bunker instead of committing suicide; however, {{spoiler|it's revealed that ''this'' Hitler is actually none other than [[H.P. Lovecraft|Nyarlatothep]]}}.

* In the ''[[Assassin's Creed]]'' [[Alternate History]], Hitler was actually {{spoiler|a Templar, using the Apple of Eden to control Nazi Germany to start [[World War II]]}}. In an interesting twist, {{spoiler|Hitler was working with Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin, who were also Templars}}, and the entire point was {{spoiler|to reshape the world order to be more favorable to the Templars}}. It is worth noting that in one of the letters than can be read in the game, {{spoiler|it is all but outright said that Hitler was a lunatic anyway}}. And they would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those darned Assassins!

 

* Completely averted in post-war Germany. Common consensus and official position is that the rise of Hitler and his rule were merely a symptom of German society at the time. If it had not been him, someone else would have assumed the role and things would have turned out mostly the same.