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This is a common plot device often used to kickstart a story, or get it into high gear.
This is a common plot device often used to kickstart a story, or get it into high gear.


Basically, the heroes discover that some bad guy is up to no good. The problem is that no-one will believe the hero, for whatever reason. Maybe because [[Just a Kid|the hero is a kid]], because the bad guys are [[Villain With Good Publicity|respected authority figures]], or because [[Cassandra Truth|their scheme sounds outlandish]]. Either way, the heroes need proof of what the bad guys are doing in order to get anyone to believe them, and the ensuing adventure becomes essentially about that. Of course, this plot isn't ''quite'' able to [[Science Marches On|catch up in this day]] and age of hand-held phone recorders/cameras/camcorders in cell phones; because that would get in the way of the ''drama'' of trying to acquire evidence. Often they'll come up with [[Reinventing the Telephone|different ways of recording information]] that's complicated enough for the plot.
Basically, the heroes discover that some bad guy is up to no good. The problem is that no-one will believe the hero, for whatever reason. Maybe because [[Just a Kid|the hero is a kid]], because the bad guys are [[Villain with Good Publicity|respected authority figures]], or because [[Cassandra Truth|their scheme sounds outlandish]]. Either way, the heroes need proof of what the bad guys are doing in order to get anyone to believe them, and the ensuing adventure becomes essentially about that. Of course, this plot isn't ''quite'' able to [[Science Marches On|catch up in this day]] and age of hand-held phone recorders/cameras/camcorders in cell phones; because that would get in the way of the ''drama'' of trying to acquire evidence. Often they'll come up with [[Reinventing the Telephone|different ways of recording information]] that's complicated enough for the plot.


This is also a way to get otherwise reluctant heroes involved in the plot. If for no other reason than the fact that since they can't convince anyone else, it's all up to them to solve the problem.
This is also a way to get otherwise reluctant heroes involved in the plot. If for no other reason than the fact that since they can't convince anyone else, it's all up to them to solve the problem.
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== [[Anime]] ==
== [[Anime]] ==
* The main obstacle for L of ''[[Death Note (Manga)|Death Note]]'' is not in deducing [[Serial Killer|Kira]]'s identity, but in finding proof beyond a shadow of a doubt to ''support'' his deduction.
* The main obstacle for L of ''[[Death Note]]'' is not in deducing [[Serial Killer|Kira]]'s identity, but in finding proof beyond a shadow of a doubt to ''support'' his deduction.
** Not unreasonable, given that Kira is using a magic killer notebook to commit his crimes. Without proof, who would believe that?
** Not unreasonable, given that Kira is using a magic killer notebook to commit his crimes. Without proof, who would believe that?
* What Tenma of ''[[Monster (Anime)|Monster]]'' occasionally tries to do about Johann. The rest of the time he's attempting to kill him.
* What Tenma of ''[[Monster (manga)|Monster]]'' occasionally tries to do about Johann. The rest of the time he's attempting to kill him.


== [[Literature]] ==
== [[Literature]] ==
* ''[[My Teacher Is an Alien]]'' starts off with Susan Simmons finding out that, well, [[Exactly What It Says On the Tin|look at the title]]. She knows full well no-one will believe her, and her efforts to try to get evidence are what set the story in motion.
* ''[[My Teacher Is an Alien]]'' starts off with Susan Simmons finding out that, well, [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|look at the title]]. She knows full well no-one will believe her, and her efforts to try to get evidence are what set the story in motion.
* ''[[A Spy in The Neighborhood]]'' is about three boys who think a certain neighbor may be a spy. They want to get the cops on her case, but in order to do that, they need to find proof of some sort, so they basically spy on her.
* ''[[A Spy in the Neighborhood]]'' is about three boys who think a certain neighbor may be a spy. They want to get the cops on her case, but in order to do that, they need to find proof of some sort, so they basically spy on her.
* ''[[Jennifer the Jerk Is Missing]]'' starts out this way, as Malcolm needs her babysitter, Amy, to believe that he did indeed witness a kidnapping. They then try to prove it to the adults, which doesn't work.
* ''[[Jennifer the Jerk Is Missing]]'' starts out this way, as Malcolm needs her babysitter, Amy, to believe that he did indeed witness a kidnapping. They then try to prove it to the adults, which doesn't work.
* ''[[Animorphs (Literature)|Animorphs]]'' starts off with the kids trying to expose the Yeerks' silent invasion to the world, in hopes that once the world knows what's going on, they'll be able to fight back. This plan becomes less significant as the series progresses, in favor of simple guerrilla war, but ultimately succeeds near the end.
* ''[[Animorphs]]'' starts off with the kids trying to expose the Yeerks' silent invasion to the world, in hopes that once the world knows what's going on, they'll be able to fight back. This plan becomes less significant as the series progresses, in favor of simple guerrilla war, but ultimately succeeds near the end.
* This happens in a few of the [[Alvin Fernald]] books by Clifford B. Hicks
* This happens in a few of the [[Alvin Fernald]] books by Clifford B. Hicks
* A major plot thread in ''[[Harry Potter (Franchise)/Harry Potter and The Half-Blood Prince|Harry Potter]]'' involves the titular character being certain that [[Goldfish Poop Gang]] leader Draco Malfoy is up to something, and trying (without success) to prove it. Of course, this is in large part due to the fact that the primary responsible authority figures {{spoiler|(Dumbledore and Snape) already know he's up to something and want Harry to have as little to do with it as possible.}}
* A major plot thread in ''[[Harry Potter (Franchise)/Harry Potter and The Half-Blood Prince|Harry Potter]]'' involves the titular character being certain that [[Goldfish Poop Gang]] leader Draco Malfoy is up to something, and trying (without success) to prove it. Of course, this is in large part due to the fact that the primary responsible authority figures {{spoiler|(Dumbledore and Snape) already know he's up to something and want Harry to have as little to do with it as possible.}}


== [[Live Action TV]] ==
== [[Live Action TV]] ==
* In ''[[Babylon Five]]'', several episodes involved a search for evidence to prove that {{spoiler|President Santiago's death was an assassination engineered by his successor, not an accident}}.
* In ''[[Babylon 5]]'', several episodes involved a search for evidence to prove that {{spoiler|President Santiago's death was an assassination engineered by his successor, not an accident}}.
* ''[[The Fugitive (TV)|The Fugitive]]'' combines this with [[Stern Chase]], as a wrongfully-accused man flees from the law as he tries to find the evidence to prove who the real killer was.
* ''[[The Fugitive (TV series)|The Fugitive]]'' combines this with [[Stern Chase]], as a wrongfully-accused man flees from the law as he tries to find the evidence to prove who the real killer was.
* ''[[The X-Files]]''. If Scully had a catch phrase, "We need scientific proof!" would be it.
* ''[[The X-Files]]''. If Scully had a catch phrase, "We need scientific proof!" would be it.
* ''[[Eerie Indiana]]''
* ''[[Eerie Indiana]]''
* On ''[[Saving Grace]]'', Rhetta is a forensic investigator and does all kinds of tests on any items that Earl gives Grace to prove his angelic existence. Boy, does she find proof.
* On ''[[Saving Grace]]'', Rhetta is a forensic investigator and does all kinds of tests on any items that Earl gives Grace to prove his angelic existence. Boy, does she find proof.
* Subverted in ''[[Star Trek Deep Space Nine]]''. When Sisko sets out to find proof that the Dominion is going to attack the Romulans, resident spy-in-exile Garak tells him the best way to find it will be to manufacture it themselves.
* Subverted in ''[[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]]''. When Sisko sets out to find proof that the Dominion is going to attack the Romulans, resident spy-in-exile Garak tells him the best way to find it will be to manufacture it themselves.
* Happens a lot in ''[[White Collar]]''. The criminals are often known right away; the trick is gathering enough evidence to allow the FBI to do anything about it.
* Happens a lot in ''[[White Collar]]''. The criminals are often known right away; the trick is gathering enough evidence to allow the FBI to do anything about it.
* A common occurance on ''[[CSI]]'' and its spinoffs. Often occurs on cases where the evidence isn't yielding as many leads as the CSIs need to make the case.
* A common occurance on ''[[CSI]]'' and its spinoffs. Often occurs on cases where the evidence isn't yielding as many leads as the CSIs need to make the case.
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* The early plot of ''[[Mass Effect]]'' revolves around the protagonist uncovering evidence to prove that the villain is actually the villain to the not-so-omniscient council of very visible politicians.
* The early plot of ''[[Mass Effect]]'' revolves around the protagonist uncovering evidence to prove that the villain is actually the villain to the not-so-omniscient council of very visible politicians.
* Your first mission in ''[[Phantasy Star]] 2'' is to recover a recorder from the Bio Systems laboratory in order to find out why the lab started making monsters. This is but the first step in proving that the [[Instant AI, Just Add Water|Mother Brain]] is not as benevolent as she appears to be...
* Your first mission in ''[[Phantasy Star]] 2'' is to recover a recorder from the Bio Systems laboratory in order to find out why the lab started making monsters. This is but the first step in proving that the [[Instant AI, Just Add Water|Mother Brain]] is not as benevolent as she appears to be...
* In ''[[Baldurs Gate]] II'' you're required to find overwhelming evidence of the younger Roenall's wrongdoings, as all complaints about him have to go through...him. So you need something very convincing to convince his superior to break protocol and get rid of him.
* In ''[[Baldur's Gate]] II'' you're required to find overwhelming evidence of the younger Roenall's wrongdoings, as all complaints about him have to go through...him. So you need something very convincing to convince his superior to break protocol and get rid of him.
* In the NES ''[[Dick Tracy]]'' game, as Dick is a by-the-book cop, you have to follow the trail and find a LOT of evidence before you can arrest any of the big villains, even though you can confront them directly at any time. Arresting them prematurely earns you a stern talking to from your boss. (Much to the chagrin of [[The Angry Video Game Nerd (Web Video)|The Angry Video Game Nerd]].)
* In the NES ''[[Dick Tracy]]'' game, as Dick is a by-the-book cop, you have to follow the trail and find a LOT of evidence before you can arrest any of the big villains, even though you can confront them directly at any time. Arresting them prematurely earns you a stern talking to from your boss. (Much to the chagrin of [[The Angry Video Game Nerd]].)
* ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'': In Wonderland, Sora and company must clear Alice's name regarding an assassination attempt at the Queen and find evidence against the Heartless.
* ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'': In Wonderland, Sora and company must clear Alice's name regarding an assassination attempt at the Queen and find evidence against the Heartless.
* In ''[[Beyond Good and Evil (Video Game)|Beyond Good and Evil]]'', this is basically the entire plot: to prove the [[Armies Are Evil|Alpha Sections]] are secretly associated with the [[Planet Looters|Domz]] they're supposed to protect against.
* In ''[[Beyond Good & Evil (video game)|Beyond Good and Evil]]'', this is basically the entire plot: to prove the [[Armies Are Evil|Alpha Sections]] are secretly associated with the [[Planet Looters|Domz]] they're supposed to protect against.
* In [[Fallout]], after saving the mayor of a little town from an assassination attempt, he asks you to gather evidence on the person (a local crime boss casino owner) he knows is behind it. You can either side with the crime boss, pretend to be an assassin available for work to make him do an [[Engineered Public Confession]] thanks to a tape recorder the mayor gave you, or just plain bugging his room.
* In [[Fallout]], after saving the mayor of a little town from an assassination attempt, he asks you to gather evidence on the person (a local crime boss casino owner) he knows is behind it. You can either side with the crime boss, pretend to be an assassin available for work to make him do an [[Engineered Public Confession]] thanks to a tape recorder the mayor gave you, or just plain bugging his room.


== [[Web Original]] ==
== [[Web Original]] ==
* In ''[[Dept Heaven Apocrypha]]'', the main characters involved in Nessiah's plot spent months trying to convince Asgard that {{spoiler|Hector had raped him}}. To make things worse, it looks like said character's [[Villain With Good Publicity|influence]] is going to quash all possibility of a fair and just trial.
* In ''[[Dept Heaven Apocrypha]]'', the main characters involved in Nessiah's plot spent months trying to convince Asgard that {{spoiler|Hector had raped him}}. To make things worse, it looks like said character's [[Villain with Good Publicity|influence]] is going to quash all possibility of a fair and just trial.


== [[Western Animation]] ==
== [[Western Animation]] ==
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