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** ''[[Hercules (1997 film)|Hercules]]'':
*** They left out that Hera was not his mother (which is especially egregious, considering how his very name is a reference to Hera's ire (Hera + κλέος, meaning wrath, ire). On top of that, she's actually a jealous, homicidal psycho that tried to kill him in various ways - any of these that made it to the film are attributed to [[Hijacked by Jesus|Satan-analogue]] Hades. Disney also left out that Heracles killed his own wife and children in a Hera-induced fit of psychotic rage and eventually died at the hands of his (unknowing) second wife when his skin got soaked in the venomous blood of the hydra.
** ''[[Bambi (Disney film)|Bambi]]''. Most of the characters in it that don't appear in the movie die. The author doesn't just go into graphic descriptions of terror, but of a few agonizing deaths.
*** That the author also wrote [[wikipedia:Mutzenbacher|Josephine Mutzenbacher]] could have been a hint
*** [[wikipedia:Dark Angel (band)|Dark Angel]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBJqyP_-1rU shares this point of view.]
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* Considering this article ''nothing'' beats the Dutch children's program ''[[Theo En Thea]]'' (1985-1989). This controversial kids' show talked about topics that sensible parents might consider to be unsuitable for young children, such as prostitution, drug abuse, sexual harassment... Despite all objections the show was a hit with both kids and adults alike!
* ''[[Star Trek]]'' series were generally aired during a family-viewing time (i.e. after five but before nine). Can't speak for the other series, but with ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation|TNG]]'' throwing out several episodes dealing with heads blowing up, heads being blown ''off'', human laboratory experiments, bloody death scenes, psychological and physical torture (that were advised on by the folks at Amnesty International) and let's not forget the Borg ... you have to wonder whether this was always a good idea.
** Also, there's [[The Captain|Picard]] {{spoiler|getting a sword through the heart}}, getting trapped as a [[Brain Uploading|program of pure information]] inside the ship's computers {{spoiler|[[Cloning Blues|only to be erased in favor of another copy of himself taken just a few seconds ago]] [[Unreliable Narrator|according to Troi]]}}, [[Sapient Ship|Barkley merging with the]] ''[[Sapient Ship|Enterprise'']]'', [[Token Evil Teammate|Troi]] getting {{spoiler|[[Mind Rape|mind raped]] at least twice}}, {{spoiler|[[Creator's Pet|Wesley]] nearly killing his mom at least twice (once on the Holodeck, another time in a collapsing pocket universe), following through on someone else and being fired for it}}, land developers committing {{spoiler|[[Moral Myopia|genocide against native sentient grains of photovoltaic sand]]}}, [[The Lancer|Riker]] getting [[Cloning Blues|cloned]] and his clone [[What You Are in the Dark|joining the Maquis]]. Anytime [[Proud Warrior Race Guy|Worf]] [[Big Screwed-Up Family|deals with anything about his own]] [[Proud Warrior Race]], [[Blood Knight|he suffers greatly for it]], {{spoiler|[[It Gets Worse|and his spine breaks twice]]}} [[Doom Magnet|just to prove the]] [[Badass]]ery of the episode's [[Friend to All Living Things]]. {{spoiler|[[Our Vampires Are Different|Someone even tried to suck]] [[The Medic|Dr. Crusher's]] [[Life Force]] [[A Wizard Did It|or whatever]]}}. [[Genius Bruiser|Data]] is often [[You Call That a Wound?|damaged, only to casually continue]], once even to the point of {{spoiler|being decapitated for 400 years}}. Data is also [[Morality Dial|easily brainwashed]], [[What Measure Is a Non-Human?|put on trial for disassembly]], and [[Latex Perfection|impersonated]] by his [[Evil Twin]]. The only one that relatively escapes this is Geordi laForge, until {{spoiler|a brainwashed Data puts nano-cortical fibers into his forehead in preparation for [[Brain Uploading]]}}.
** On a "lighter note", [[The Lancer|Riker]] tries to [[If You Know What I Mean|"lance"]] just about everything that is [[Boldly Coming|remotely female, alien and humanoid]]. Just having [[Mr. Exposition|Deanna Troi]] [[AuthorWriter Onon Board|onboard]] in her capacity as a therapist is unusual for a ''Star Trek'' series. [[The Captain|Picard]] also travels back in time and [[Can't Live with Them, Can't Live Without Them|his now much younger best friend Martha demands to be "lanced" and he does so, alienating her]].
** And in [[Star Trek: The Original Series|TOS]] alone there's plenty of this. How about the episode "The Paradise Syndrome" where {{spoiler|Kirk gets married to a woman, gets her pregnant, and then she gets stoned to death. On camera.}} Yeah.
** In the opening moments of [[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine|DS9,]], we saw Jennifer Sisko, trapped under debris, dead or dying, the room burning around her as her husband desperately tried to reach her. By season five, they were including scenes of Starfleet officers dying from gruesome injuries. And then there's the Dominion War.
** In a similar vein, ''[[Star Trek Enterprise|Enterprise]]''{{'}}s "Unexpected" is also about [[Black Comedy Rape|rape as a joke]]. It falls somewhere between date rape and child molestation. Sure Trip's an adult, but the lizard lady's dialog just screams "I've got candy in my van", calling her sexing up of Trip "a game we play" when he doesn't know what's happening.
** Let's not forget ''[[Deep Space Nine]]''{{'}}s "The Siege of AR-558" which features the Dominion's shock troops attempting to {{spoiler|reclaim a communications outpost that had been seized months earlier by the Federation.}} The Defiant shows up to provide supplies at first, but the crew remains behind when {{spoiler|The Jem'Hadar sneak attack Nog and they realize a siege is inevitable. He winds up losing a leg due to that and what follows is a quite violent fight against a horde of shock troops, all while classy jazz music plays, thanks to Bashir having a recording of Vic Fontaine singing.}}
** Then there are [[The Virus|The Borg]] and [[It Got Worse|Species 8472]]. The former feature [[Body Horror]], [[You Will Be Assimilated]] and [[Fate Worse Than Death]]. The latter are [[Omnicidal Maniac]] race that makes hills out of severed Borg heads for breakfast and [[Earthshattering Kaboom|blows up planets for dinner]]. {{spoiler|It's more complicated but this was in the show.}} They '''also''' feature [[Body Horror]] and [[Fate Worse Than Death]], though in ways '''different''' from the Borg. Did we mention they both feature [[Nightmare Fuel]]?
* ''[[Wonder Showzen]]''. It was originally to be titled ''Kids' Show'', [[Executive Meddling|but they were forced to change it]] [[Viewers are Morons|because the network feared people would take it literally.]]. The theme song starts:
{{quote|"Kids' show, kids' show
oh good lord it's a kids' show"}}
** And the disclaimer at the beginning states that if you allow your kid to watch this show, you are a bad parent or guardian.
* According to Lisa Kudrow, she has met kids claiming that their parents let them watch ''[[Friends]]''. While ''Friends'' is not particularly vulgar by modern standards, there are still way too many storylines revolving around sex to consider it appropriate for younger viewers.
** The same probably{{verify}} applies to most prime time sitcoms.{{context}}<!-- |reason=How does it apply? Which sitcoms? Give some examples or delete the line, please. -->}}
* [http://shinga.deviantart.com/art/Head-Trip-All-Greek-To-Me-61559835/ ABC Family]. Either ABC/Disney or Fox before them ''wanted'' to change it, but their contract with Pat Robertson requires them to keep "Family" in the channel name (and to run ''The 700 Club'' before midnight... [[Snark Bait|maybe]] they could give it a [[Laugh Track]]?).
** [[ABC Family]] also airs reruns of ''[[That '70s Show]]'' which has many references to sex and implies marijuana usage with the kids in the circle. Granted, it has both written and spoken warnings along the lines of "The following material may be inappropriate for younger viewers" before each episode.
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== [[Web Comics]] ==
* ''[[Las Lindas]]'' is passable as a kiddy looking comic. Bright colors, animal people...and then you get to [https://web.archive.org/web/20111101082426/http://laslindas.katbox.net/?p=13 page 5...]
* ''[[Lackadaisy]]'' contains gorgeous art of furry cat people with often enormous and adorable kitty eyes (the author admits she was influenced by Disney films like ''[[Bambi (Disney film)|Bambi]]'' as a child)- and they earn their keep by bootlegging, people-hacking, and general classy dirty-handedness. Even the cutest member of the cast turns out to be one of the craziest.
* Several posters in the Giant In The Playground forums were offended by sexual content in a recent ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]'' [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0622.html comic], on the grounds that "children read this comic." So, apparently it's okay for kids to watch stick figures kill each other in various brutal ways (including {{spoiler|[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0639.html committing genocide]}}), but masturbation jokes are just going too far. Never mind that anyone who's mature enough to [[Getting Crap Past the Radar|realise it's a masturbation reference]] probably has [[A Worldwide Punomenon|first-hand experience]] of the activity.
* The creators of ''[[Penny Arcade (Webcomic)|Penny Arcade]]'' did [https://web.archive.org/web/20090918112929/http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/7/23/san-diego-sketchbook-adult-content/ a sketch] about the possibility of children reading their work. [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/6/17/ Elsewhere], they mention being invited to a school to give a class on drawing—they went, and enjoyed it, but they made damn sure to cut the URL from the make-your-own-comic templates that they handed out.
* The authors of [[Girl Genius]] [http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/info/newreader.php felt it necessary to explain the comic is for older teens and up.] For readers who skip the New Reader page, the blatant [[Fan Service]] is probably a clue.
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20130719183412/http://www.drunkduck.com/Jix/ Jix] is about a blue furry alien, but has mild cussing and various comics filled with copious amounts of cartoony gore...and partial nudity from time to time from the human character.