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** ''Mists of Pandaria'' seems to be causing this too.
** Also, PVE vs. PVP. Players will pull up unoriginal insults akin to [[Fantastic Racism]] without the "race".
* [[Catharsis Factor]]:
** The Seige of Orgrimmar raid is this for the Alliance. Well, many Horde players likely had no love for Garrosh either, but this raid actually lets you storm and invade the Horde capital itself and lay waste to the citizenry. Any beginning Alliance player who has been shot down after flying too near the place sees it as revenge.
** When you finally kill the Whale Shark in Vashj'ir. It doesn't drop anything or give XP, but this monster likely kills you several times while you try to explore the undersea zone, and finally killing the thing is satisfying. In fact, the Achievement you get has a fitting name, [[Shout Out| "From Hell's Heart I]] [[Moby Dick| Stab at Thee".]]
* [[Cliché Storm]]: the [[Large Ham]] bosses' favorite way of [[Calling Your Attacks]]. Originally done so you'd know how to prepare for an incoming attack but nowadays it's just tradition.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Quite a few villains qualify, although overall most of them tend to be Anti-Villains.
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** Cro Threadstrong, an Orc NPC in Shattrath who yells about waging war with a nearby apple vendor.
** Sabellian, Deathwing's younger son who is a questgiver in Outland. As of late, there have been several calls for Sabellian, who is much less evil and more sane than his father, to take control of the Black Dragonflight after Deathwing's inevitable demise at the hands of players.
* [[Evil is Cool]]: The Lich King. Honestly, given his backstory, appearance, and powers, this guy rates higher on the Coolness Factor than ''any'' of the good guys.
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]:
** It's unlikely Onyxia would have been gotten away with a thousandth of what she got away with if not for people's assumption that she was the returned King's mistress and previously Bolvar's. In all likelihood, she really was the returned Varian's mistress for the short time she had him [[Charm Person|spellbound]].
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** Attunement in ''general''. This supposedly weeded out the "Bad players" back in the day, when all it took to get attuned was to be lucky enough to ''find'' a group that formed for it, especially on some servers like most Wasteland EST PvP Servers. This lead to a [[Can't Catch Up]] in which perfectly good players were stuck waiting for an attunement group to form while everyone else was busy trying to get the bosses down.
*** And evidently people used to "need a brain" to get to end-game. Evidently, "Needing a brain" meant "being able to be lucky to have a group that would do convoluted attunement chains" and "having the free time to run dungeons enough to get gear so the guilds would even look at you."
* [[Old Shame]]: There are quite a few things Blizzard would like players to forget. In no particular order:
** The BlizzCon lesbian. Back during BlzzCon 2011, a fan who called herself "Brei" asked why there were no openly LGBT characters in the game. As often happens with controversial issues where opinions are required, the community completely blew up and a [[Flame War]] started. Eventually, Blizzard simply said it was because too many kids play the game, and swept it under the rug.
** Cyric, the mod often called the Troller of Trolls. Now, Trolls are a fact of life on game forums, but the Vanilla and Crusade eras were out of control. Cyric was a moderator who just couldn't take it anymore, and started [[He Who Fights Monsters| insulting the trolls with horrible profanity]], replying to each and every troll who replied to him as such. He actually got rid of a few, but was eventually fired for encouraging such behavior.
** Dear lord, the Pet Pit. Another problem they had in 2011 was gold sellers, and were cracking down on it. Then they released Guardian Cubs, collectible Battle Pets which you could buy with actual money and then sell in-game for inflated prices. This was seen as hypocrisy. Which it was. They even admitted that this is what it was for, admitting, "we're okay with it, if some players choose to use the Guardian Cub as a safe and secure way to acquire a little extra in-game gold without turning to third-party gold-selling services. However, please keep in mind that there's never any guarantee that someone will purchase what you put up for sale at the auction house." (That's a direct quote, by the way.) This was removed from the game quickly, due to the controversy, but the pets are still available (as Soulbound, meaning unsellable in-game).
** The Real ID forum was a case of [[Didn't Think This Through]]. During 2011 (seeing a trend here?) they had a policy that said you could only post if you used your real name, address, and email, making that info public. [[Not Making This Up Disclaimer| Yeah, uh-huh.]] They assumed [[Even Evil Has Standards| trolls would be hesitant]] to insult someone they knew was a 12-year-old. Well, they underestimated how vile some of them were, and to say it didn't work was a ''very'' big understatement.
** As controversial as the BlizzCon lesbian was, Corpse Grinder George, a guest of Blizzard at again, 2011. The original interview (edited when released, thank goodness) was seven solid minutes of homophobic hate speech and endorsement of violence with ample use [[Cluster F Bomb| of the F-word]] directed at Alliance players. Why they promoted George in the first place (rather than kicked him out on his rear) caused outcry unlike Blizzard had ''ever'' seen before or since, causing them to make a public apology.
* [[Older Than They Think]]:
** Lor'themar actually wasn't invented for WoW and first showed up in a Korean-drawn comic.
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** By that corollary, many of the parts of the dungeons that involve mandatory escorting, especially The Escape from Durnholde and Halls of Stone, become Scrappy Levels.
** Mankrik's goddamn wife. Takes ''forever'' to find her, even if you use a guide, not least because you think you're looking for a person instead of a poorly-marked corpse. This has led to quite a bit of [[Memetic Mutation]]. In Cataclysm, Mankrik is still alive and has a quest chain a good bit of [[Lampshading]].
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]: One part of the Suramar storyline involves persuading the city nobility to approve of Ly'leth for the role of adviser, done mostly by informing the other nobility of her opponent's atrocities and spreading rumors of fake ones, along with killing the worst of the loyalists among them. (This, in effect, plants a mole for the resistance ''much'' closer to Elisande than she believes.) Now, this had the potential to be an enjoyable [[Stealth Based Mission]], but unfortunately, the areas you have to go through to spread the rumors have the most mobs in the city able to uncover your disguise. This makes it turn into a slaughter (or worse, a "corpse run" where you have to die multiple times) rather quickly, and ruins the overall mood of the intent.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]:
** BALANCE! Also, many old-school players tend to complain that the game has gotten too easy, while others note that there are challenges available to those who seek them out, and Blizzard is trying to make more content for the majority of players instead of just the hardcore. In general though, people have been saying this pretty much since the first patch, but mysteriously still play.
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