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* Vegeta's whole complex in ''[[Dragon Ball|Dragonball Z]]'' is how he views himself as the Hero or even the Chosen One, and so constantly gets mad when Goku and Gohan continue to take center stage. It takes him until the fight with Kid Buu to accept his destiny as Goku's [[The Lancer|lancer]].
** It also means that he realizes that as Goku is the hero, Goku's philosophy of being pure-hearted is right and his [[Sliding Scale of Anti-Heroes|Type-V antiheroics]] werenwasn't. That, plus his love for his family eventually bumps him up the niceness scale to a type III.
* ''[[Mazinger Z]]'': [[Co-Dragons|Baron Ashura and Count Brocken]] hated each other. [[Big Bad]] Dr. Hell thought it would be a good thing, since they would surely try to destroy Mazinger-Z harder to upstage each other. Or course, what happened was many operations and schemes went by the wayside because they constantly fought and got in the each other's way, and they were were unable to work together, ruining many joined missions, too. Hell's mistake was born of him believing he and his troops were a [[Five-Man Band]] instead of a [[Five-Bad Band]].
** In another episode, [[Those Wacky Nazis|Count Brocken]] have one in which he used hostages, and cheap tricks to defeat Koji, expecting Koji to be a straight, heroic and honorable hero like pretty much most tv shows protagonist. This could have(and at times actualyactually) work well if not for the fact that this is [[Combat Pragmatist|Koji]] werewas talking about. In fact, Brocken does [[Lampshade Hanging|mention it]] by [[What the Hell, Hero?|complained]] about Koji's fans will cry because of that. Koji's reaction? Take it like a man.
* Sanji from ''[[One Piece]]'' seems to think he's in a Shojo anime (such as in the Enies Lobby arc and [[Filler]]) and completely fails to get the girl at all times.
** Very, very ironic when you consider that early on, he [[Characterization Marches On|actually was popular with (non -plot-relevant) women]]. This trait seems to have been eased out of his characterization, probably when the artist realized Sanji was a little too perfect and needed to be funnier and more over the top.
** Luffy seems to be affected for the one moment he attempts being [[Genre Savvy]], assuming that Chopper's scope attack will in fact be a beam, a la ''[[Dragon Ball]]''. ("BEAM, BEAM! IT'S GONNA BE A BEAM!")
*** He's got the genre down, ''[[One Piece]]'' just happens to be rather non-traditional.
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** [[Big Bad|Blackbeard]] seems to be under the impression that he's the main character.
*** Either that, or he thinks he's the [[Big Bad]] (which he's got a good chance of being right about) in a story where [[The Bad Guy Wins]] (which he has absolutely no chance of being right about).
* Konata from ''[[Lucky Star]]'' plays so much [[Eroge]] to think that she's living in one — despite this is a [[Slice of Life]] [[Schoolgirl Series]]. If the plot callcalls for something unusual she changes the game genre accordingly (for example, thinking in sportsports games terms when the School's sports competition time arrives), but still she doesn't get that she doesn't live in a videoconsole.
* Most of the characters in ''[[Genshiken]]'' are major, major [[Otaku]] and therefore genre savvy, but share Konata's affliction of being unable to tell exactly what kind of anime they're in. Madarame seems to visualize life as a [[Dating Sim]], and beats himself up about it when he realizes it.
* The eponymous character of ''[[Suzumiya Haruhi]]'' hopes to meet aliens, time-travelers and espers, experience super-naturalsupernatural mysteries, and expose [[Ancient Conspiracy|ancient conspiracies]]. Since she is a [[Reality Warper]], it actually ''does'' happen all around her, but [[Locked Out of the Loop|she doesn't notice]]. One could put it so that she ''makes'' herself an accurate [[Genre Savvy]].
** Example: She expects a [[Absurdly Powerful Student Council|student president]] who runs the school and all the clubs like a dictator. {{spoiler|There isn't one, so Itsuki hires some guy to play the part of a jerkass president. He's a jerkass in a different way entirely, though.}} Of course, since this is Haruhi {{spoiler|he starts having trouble differentiating himself from the role he is playing, and will possibly end up exactly as Haruhi thinks he is.}} Wrong Genre Savvy -> [[Genre Savvy]]!
** She does wind up Wrong Genre Savvy in the positions she thinks the other members of the Brigade have. She views Itsuki as [[The Lancer]], Kyon as [[The Big Guy]], Yuki as [[The Smart Guy]], and Mikuru as [[The Chick]]. She is only right with Mikuru; in reality, Kyon is [[The Hero]], Itsuki is [[The Lancer]], and Yuki takes the position of both [[The Smart Guy]] and [[The Big Guy]].
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*** Amusingly enough, {{spoiler|this is probably why he survives in ''Super Robot Wars'' despite being swiftly killed off in his own series.}}
* Noboru Yamaguchi from ''[[Cromartie High School]]'' acts as though the world around him follows the rules of traditional (read: old) styles of comedy, despite the world of ''Cromartie'' being [[Planet Eris|one of the most surreal places ever]].
* Edo Phoenix of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]]'' thinks he's [[The Hero]]. In fact, he practically thinks he's [[Batman]]... in a [[Shonen]] anime. He intiallyinitially sets out to defeat Judai, thinking he's the enemy. Then when Judai is getting ready to defeat the [[Big Bad]], Edo rushes off to fight him, believing he will win because of a promise he made, not realizing he is ''not'' [[The Only One Allowed to Defeat You]].
* In the second season of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! ARC-V]]'', Yuya has a bout of this after he finds out that being eliminated from the Friendship Cup means being sentenced to a life of slave labor at a waste treatment facility. He tries to play hero by announcing this revelation to the crowd before his first match, but not only did [[Everybody Knows That|everyone already know about it]], they didn't object to it! All it does is cause everyone to consider him very naive. Downplayed, however, in that a few episodes later, it seemed Yuya simply needed more experience as an orator; Yugo's attempt to deliver the same message to the crowd seemed to make ''far'' more progress.
* Cancer Deathmask, of ''[[Saint Seiya]]''. He decides to serve the corrupt Pope because [[Utopia Justifies the Means]] and [[Right Makes Might]], and points out that winners write the history books, which is technically true. Unfortunately, he's in a [[Shonen|Shonen Jump]] series, so he is bound to pay dearly for that remark.
* ''[[Berserk]]'' is a [[Seinen]] fantasy manga that contains orgies of violence and sex, of both the consensual and non-consensual types. Despite this, Isidro seems to have convinced himself that he's not only in a [[Shonen]] manga (which are generally idealistic and where good always triumphs over evil), but thinks he's the main character. Suffice to say, if it weren't for the fact he's the [[Plucky Comic Relief]], he probably would've died a long time ago.
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* In ''[[Sayonara, Zetsubou-sensei]]'', the character Mayo Mitama is an "evil looking girl" who likes to commit acts of ultra-violence. However, even when she does these things in front of/to people, they refuse to suspect her due to Wrong Genre Savvy. Going by the logic of detective stories and most anime using [[Face of a Thug]], she can't be evil because "no one who looks so obviously evil could actually be evil" (because it wouldn't make for an interesting story). The problem is, Mayo's name means [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|"exactly as she looks"]], and she's really is an example of [[Obviously Evil]].
* In ''[[Nana to Kaoru]]'', the student council president complains that the main character's "got a secondary character's face!" The poor guy doesn't realize he's in an [[Ecchi]], [[Ugly Guy, Hot Wife]] comedy. He's also absolutely dumbfounded at Kaoru's sad, depressed resignation about Nana being way outside of his league, expecting some form of argument or fight.
* Shinzen from ''[[Speed Grapher]]'' is a very [[Genre Savvy]] villainess who is perfectly aware that {{spoiler|her handsome and ruthless Dragon, Suitengu, views her as a [[Meal Ticket]].}} So she tries to use her knowledge to try keepingto keep him under control and outgambit him. Where does she go WGS? {{spoiler|In that she accepted to marry him... not seeing that he'd try to kill her as soon as he could. Which he did.}}
* Taikoubou of ''[[Houshin Engi]]'' zig -zags between this and [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]]. At the beginning of the story, he tries to skip the traditional [[Sorting Algorithm of Evil]] and goes straight for the [[Big Bad]]. Too bad Dakki is an even more [[Magnificent Bastard]] [[Chessmaster]] than he is and the plot fails horrifically. Later, Taikoubou tries to invoke [[Defeat Means Friendship]] on Nataku, who is out and out trying to kill him (Nataku does eventually join Team Taikoubou, but not for this reason). However, just as many of Taikoubou's insane plans succeed because he seems to be aware of what kind of series he's in.
* [[Puella Magi Madoka Magica|Sayaka Miki]] thinks she's in a conventional [[Magical Girl Warrior]] show, where [[The Power of Love]] will make her a victorious "ally of justice". {{spoiler|[[Break the Cutie|My]] [[Kill'Em All|God]], [[And Then John Was a Zombie|was she]] [[Awful Truth|WRONG]]. Once you get down to it, it's a [[Cosmic Horror Story]] with a side order of [[Psychological Horror]].}}
** Resulted in her {{spoiler|[[Start of Darkness]] and transformation into a witch}}. And then Kyouko teamed up with Sayaka's best friend, the titular Madoka in an attempt to {{spoiler|[["I Know You're in There Somewhere" Fight|talk her back into humanity]]}}. [[Heroic Sacrifice|It]] [[Mercy Kill|failed]].
** Let's not forget about {{spoiler|Mami Tomoe}} and how her reliance on the [[Power of Friendship]] during a crucial battle got her {{spoiler|[[Eaten Alive]] by Charlotte due to [[Leeroy Jenkins|fighting recklessly]] because of it}}.
** Madoka goes through the same rude awakenings as Mami, Sayaka, and Kyouko {{spoiler|but she doesn't die, [[Groundhog Day Loop|except in all the other timelines]]}}. Homura thinks she can {{spoiler|save Madoka}} through [[Anti-Hero|angsty sacrifice]] and [[Determinator|sheer determination]] {{spoiler|but she's doomed to fail}}. And even Kyubey never thought {{spoiler|Madoka could rewrite the rules of his own game}}, so in the end, [[Deconstruction|nobody understood]] [[Reconstruction|their own world]].
* All the generals in ''[[Irresponsible Captain Tylor]]'' seem to think [[Wooden Ships and Iron Men|hard hard-nosed militarism and taking your enemy down with you are the most important aspects to winning a war]]. They are completely unaware that the show is a wacky sitcom/space opera hybrid where stuff will occur just because it's funny. Or just out of sheer luck.
** There is also the possibility though that they actually ARE genre savvy and Tylor is just a much better tactician than everybody else.
* [[Hot God|Peorth]] in ''[[Ah! My Goddess]]'' manages to pick up that she's in a [[Magical Girlfriend]] series, but initially fails to realize that she's ''not'' the main love interest, and at one point seemed under the impression she was in [[Hentai]] manga.
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* The Literature Girl in ''[[Daily Lives of High School Boys]]'' is trying to reenact her own romantic novel in a [[Slice of Life]] comedy. It completely weirded out [[Genre Savvy|Hidenori]].
* Sogiita Gunha from ''[[A Certain Magical Index]]'' thinks he's the hero of a [[Sentai]] anime. Not only is this series much more mature and complicated than that, he's not even a main character.
* Combined with [[Aliens Steal Cable]] in ''[[Rinne no Lagrange]]'' - one of [[Human Aliens]] in one episode watches a samurai movie and mistakes it'sits events for some Earth tradition he then tries to repeat to challenge Madoka for a duel. SuprisinglySurprisingly things workswork exactly like he is expecting them to, but for different reasons and he accidentiallyaccidentally convinces girls at Madoka's school that he is her boyfriend.
* One of Hibiki's friends from ''[[Senki Zesshou Symphogear]]'' likes to point out when people act like anime characters, which she treats as unusual, because she doesn't realize she actually is in an anime.
* Keima in ''[[The World God Only Knows]]'' gets all his [[Genre Savvy]] from [[Romance Game|galges]], so he falls into this when he gets into situations outside his experience. For example, Haqua is a [[Tsundere]] who is obviously in love with him. But in galges, the girl pursuing the boy is a trap for a [[Bad End]], and must be avoided at all costs, so he barely even notices.
** His wrong genre savvynesssavviness is the reason he got roped in the plot in the first place. He identifies himself as the [[Otaku]] character, and consequently believes that his geekery is enough to keep him away from women and any non-gaming interesting event. So, when the mail inviting him to "capture ladies" appears, he accepts because he legitimately thinks is an invitation for a closed beta for a new galge, as the idea of ''anyone'' believing he has any actual capacity with real, actual girls, is completely unthinkable from him.
* Eren in ''[[Shingeki no Kyojin]]'' begins the series acting like the [[Hot -Blooded|hotblooded]] protagonist of a typical [[shonen]] series, where [[Badass|badassery]], hard work and awesomeness can save the day. He is in a shonen series, yes, and he is the protagonist of the story, yes, but the series he is in is [[Darker and Edgier|Darker and]] [[Bloodier and Gorier|Bloodier]] than the average shonen. Therefore, his natural hot temper runs contrary to what it's needed to solve the conspiracies, the monsters and the [[Ontological Mystery]] the plot runs on, as he soon learns. Gorily.
* Shiratori, the popular guy from ''[[Yandere Kanojo]]'' believes himself he is [[The Ace]] against Manabu, whom he sees as a mix of [[Worthy Opponent]] and [[The Rival]]. In truth, he is Manabu's [[Unknown Rival]] and the [[Butt Monkey]] of the series, whose in-universe popularity is due more to his [[Adorkable]] traits than any actual coolness on his side.
* Teruki Hanazawa from ''[[Mob Psycho 100]]'' thinks of himself as "the hero of this world" due to his esper powers and his time escaping from an evil organization, so when he learns about Mob's existence he approaches him the way a shounen manga protagonist approaches an evil enemy. Unfortunately for him, he is actually a minor villain in a parody of that kind of shounen manga (and one whose actual message runs contrary to said mangas' usual plots), and his attempts to get [[Actual Pacifist]] Mob to attack back only cause that Mob's [[Super-Powered Evil Side]] to take over and humiliatingly defeat him. Even after his defeat and subsequent [[Heel Face Turn]], Teru still thinks in standard shounen tropes; for example, his approach to befriending Mob is to incite a [[Friendly Rivalry]] that actually upsets the other boy.
 
* In ''Isekai Ojisan'', the titular uncle is a Sega fanboy who was particularly expert in action and puzzle games, whose soul got into another world after an accident in 2000 left him in a coma in our world for seventeen years. Uncle claims that his time in the other world was terrible, with him suffering [[Fantastic Racism]] and more often than not fighting solo. However, his nephew Takafumi, a otakuish college aged man who grew with RPGs, dating Sims, [[Turn of the Millennium]] anime, and Isekai light novels, immediately realizes that his uncle was placed in very typical scenarios and tropes from those games and media that could have benefited him if he had took them, only for Uncle ignoring and wasting those opportunities due to a mix of [[Ambiguous Disorder]], being [[Oblivious To Love]], and just flat out [[Genre Blind]]ness.
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** One notorious example is Uncle relationship with Elf-san. Takafumi (and the audience) immediately ping her as a textbook [[Tsundere]] who wanted to jump into Uncle's bones the minute he rescued her. However, her character type was only properly codified and popularized around 2004, so to Uncle, she's merely a jerk that constantly insults him and tends to mooch him whenever suits her. When Fujimiya name-drops Tsundere [[Ur Example]] Asuka Langley from ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' in the hopes that Uncle notice the parallelism between his situation and Asuka and Shinji' relationship, he only says "[[Comically Missing the Point|She really liked Kaji, didn't she?]]"
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* The whole point of ''[[Bofuri: I Don't Want to Get Hurt, so I'll Max Out My Defense]]''. Kaede Honjō (or "Maple", the name she gives her avatar in the [[Fictional Video Game]]) is a case of this Trope benefitting the protgonist. Maple doesn't seem to understand the concept of fantasy RPG games - much less VRMMORPG games like ''NewWorld Online''; she doen't like to fight and is scared at the thought of getting hurt, so she decides to [[Whoring| dump all her initial skill points in Vitality]]. This gives her no offensive strength at all, but overwhelming defense, and causes her to unlock a pair of rare Skills that cause her to turn opposing attacks against the attackers. She quickly becomes one of the highest ranking players in the game, and is able to win guild wars by herself by just standing still and doing nothing as enemy players take themselves out by trying to attack her.
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