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[[File:simonbelmont.jpg|frame|[[Captain N: The Game Master|Totally the]] [[Castlevania|same guy]].]]
 
Sometimes writers who make adaptations change aspects of plots and characters to the point where they [[Not as You Know Them|remove most of the characters' qualities]], or even to the point where you don't recognize them and say '''You Don't Look Like You''' (or, in egregious cases, ''[[Character Derailment|they DESTROYED''destroyed'' them]]''). To many fans, every aspect of a character's personality, ability, etc. should be preserved. Sometimes writers do this for the fans.... with a catch.
 
Usually in newer versions of older media (say an NES game or horror film) a character's design is changed to the point where they can only be recognized by incredibly minor details (or a name being posted on the picture). This is done to modernize characters for a new generation, much like any remake or adaptation. Sometimes this change doesn't sit well with the fans, but in some rare cases people will accept the newer design, saying it is a great change overall. Changes to old designs usually end with people getting used to them until the next change is made where a vicious cycle is restarted until the product comes out and people are settled.
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Compare [[Not as You Know Them]] where the appearance is the same but the personality isn't, [[Adaptational Attractiveness]], and [[Progressively Prettier]] for when their looks improve, [[The Nth Doctor]] when the appearance changes suddenly and completely, and [[The Other Darrin]] for an unexplained change of actor. See also [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]].
 
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== [[Anime]] &and [[Manga]] ==
 
* The Gundams from ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam Wing]]'' got a redesign for ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam Wing Endless Waltz]]'', making them overall sleeker and removing a few weapons in order to streamline things (except Heavyarms, which got [[More Dakka]]). To this day, there are STILL [[Fan Dumb|groups of fans]] who insist that the movie versions are vastly inferior to their TV counterparts for those very reasons, despite [[Word of God]] saying that they're the exact same machines with the exact same performances, and were infact [[Retcon|Retconned]]ned into replacing the TV versions. This is made more explicit in the 2010 manga ''Glory of the Losers'', which retells the events of the television series but uses the movie-styled versions of the Gundams.
== Anime & Manga ==
* The Gundams from ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam Wing]]'' got a redesign for ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam Wing Endless Waltz]]'', making them overall sleeker and removing a few weapons in order to streamline things (except Heavyarms, which got [[More Dakka]]). To this day, there are STILL [[Fan Dumb|groups of fans]] who insist that the movie versions are vastly inferior to their TV counterparts for those very reasons, despite [[Word of God]] saying that they're the exact same machines with the exact same performances, and were infact [[Retcon|Retconned]] into replacing the TV versions. This is made more explicit in the 2010 manga ''Glory of the Losers'', which retells the events of the television series but uses the movie-styled versions of the Gundams.
* In the original ''[[Fist of the North Star]]'' manga, Zengyo, the assistant of Ryuken's old rival Koryu, originally resembled an ordinary middle-aged man with no real qualities that made him stand out. When the character was adapted to the anime series, he became an elderly ninja master for some reason.
* Virtually every character in the ''[[Tokyo Majin]]'' anime does not resemble their original character designs. Some characters such as Marie and Kozunu have it worse than others in that they not only do not look like their original designs but their personalities were also drastically altered.
* At the start of the ''[[Pocket Monsters (manga)|Pocket Monsters]]'' manga, very few Pokémon resembled their official designs. Rumor has it the designs were based off what the mangaka thought the sprites looked like, [http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/manga/pocket_monsters/pm_01/03_wild_poke.jpg which looked incredibly off]. As the series went on the Pokémon started looking more like their game counterparts, even resembling the official art better then other adaptations in some examples.
** Not all counterparts of game protagonists look identical to the protagonist. [https://web.archive.org/web/20140111223211/http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/3695/148542-249px_mitsumib_large.jpg Mitsumi] from ''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure]]'' looks very little like her [https://web.archive.org/web/20140111223226/http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/1c/Diamond_Pearl_Dawn.png game counterpart]. [http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/ac/Shuu.png Shu]{{Dead link}} and [https://web.archive.org/web/20140111223257/http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/a4/Red_E_Chapter_Adventures.png Red] look very little like their [https://web.archive.org/web/20120604072524/http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/53/Red_Green_Red.png game counterpart], even more so after the redesigns for the remake.
* Big Mom from ''[[One Piece]]'' looked like [http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120101192607/onepiece/images/9/9b/BigMomGP.jpg this]{{Dead link}} when the Four Emperors were first mentioned. However, when she made her first physical appearance in the story, she looked like ''[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111228114009/onepiece/images/c/c2/Big_Mam.png this]''.{{Dead link}} In other words, she went from looking like a typical [[Gonk]] in her appearance as a silouette to horrific when she actually appeared. However, it's possible that Oda wanted to tweak her character design to make her more intimidating for when we first see her.
 
== [[Comic Books]] ==
* [[Marvel]] Comics characters sometimes gain new costumes which may or may not be kept depending on fan reaction.
** The ''[[X-Men (Comic Book)|X-Men]]'' franchise is a major testament to this.
*** Some of the characters in ''[[Wolverine and the X-Men]]'' look like original designs. You'd be confused at Psylocke's design until Quicksilver said her name.
** In fact...the [[Ultimate Universe]] is a combination of this trope and [[Not as You Know Them]].
 
 
== [[Film]] ==
* The ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' film changed most of the characters' looks so that they could be more realistic--[[Alternate Universe|not that most of them had previously had consistent looks anyway,]] but [[The Starscream|Starscream]] had <s>always</s> [http://tfu.info/1997/Decepticon/Starscream/starscream.htm usually] been fairly recognizable before. This was met with criticism of being unable to recognize and/or distinguish them.
** But this is really nothing new in the series; characters named "Optimus Prime" generally look more or less the same (with the movie design ''mostly'' within the typical parameters), but every Megatron is completely different when it comes to physical appearance (the exception being in ''[[Transformers Animated]]'', where he is a combination of his Generation 1 and movie designs).
** Played straight with the Fallen however. In the G1 continuity, he's squarish and is on fire, but in the Movie continuity, he's scrawny and red-hot! And yes, [[Word of God]] confirmed that those two are actually the same character.
*** As with the original toy and cartoon versions of some G1 characters (particularly the shape of their heads), which was eventually corrected by later toys so that they look more like their cartoon incarnations. The worst offenders of these are Ratchet and Ironhide, whose toys neither had heads nor feet!
** The 'Bots and 'Cons from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|''Trans]][[Transformers Prime|formers:]] [[Transformers Rescue Bots|Aligned'']] [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|continuity]] actually couldn't decide whether they should look more like the Transformers from ''[[Transformers Generation 1]]'', [[Transformers (film)|The live-action]] [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen|''Transformers'']] [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon|films]], or ''[[Transformers Animated]]'', or perhaps all three.
* Galactus from ''[[Fantastic Four (film)|Fantastic Four]]: Rise of the Silver Surfer'' was a huge cloud. He still [[Planet Eater|ate planets, though]].
** However, the cloud was lit up by periodic flashes from within, revealing shadows that looked like Galactus' [[Nice Hat|angular helmet.]] [[Word of God]] states that the big purple guy is ''inside'' the cloud, to be unveiled when the ''[[Silver Surfer]]'' movie comes out. [[Franchise Killer|Which it won't]].
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* In nearly all media featuring the Rutles, rhythm guitarist Stig O'Hara is portrayed by South African musican Rikki Fataar. However, when the characters made their debut (on [[Saturday Night Live]] in America, and [[Rutland Weekend Television]] in England), Stig was David Battley, better known as Charlie Bucket's science teacher in "Willy Wonka."
 
== [[Video Games]] ==
 
== Video Games ==
* Zero's transition from ''[[Mega Man X]]'' to ''[[Mega Man Zero]]'' could be considered a drastic change.
** Justified in ''Zero 3'', when it's revealed that Zero is actually Zero in a copy body. Played straight during the final ''minute'' of the game, when [[The Dragon]] Omega crosses the [[Bishounen Line]] by...{{spoiler|transferring himself to Zero's original body, which now looks ''exactly the same as his new one'' with a slightly darker color scheme.}}
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** This was because the character designs were originally done by Yoshiaki Inagaki, which were used for the game sprites. However, due to [[Executive Meddling]] by Namco, the character designs were replaced by the ones done by Kosuke Fujishima, but it was too late to change the sprites at that point. The sprites were changed in the remakes to reflect Fujishima's designs.
** Also from the [[Tales (series)]], Summon Spirits Efreet, Gnome, Undine, and Sylph have almost never looked the same from game to game, though they hold on to certain themes (Efreet is a demonic burning beast, Sylph is a fairy, etc.). Gnome notably changed from a legion of lumps of dirt (''Phantasia'') into a big-nosed hamster creature (''Eternia'') between his first two appearances in the series. A more direct example of this trope would be Efreet himself turning from a vague fire monster in the original ''[[Tales of Phantasia]]'' into a clear red humanoid with a fiery head and arms in the ''remake'' for the PSX.
* Gigan in [[Godzilla]] Final Wars [[Took a Level Inin Badass]].
* In the ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' franchise, [[Big Bad|Robotnik]] has gone through many of these--''[[Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog]]'', ''[[Sonic Sat AM]]'', ''[[Sonic Underground]]'', ''[[Sonic Adventure]]'', and ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 (video game)||Sonic the Hedgehog 2006]]'' each apparently felt that none of his existing designs was quite good enough.
** The ''Sonic Adventure'' version has stuck, becoming the basis for his subsequent appearances. An even more thorough redesign of [[Stalker with a Crush|Amy Rose]] was introduced at the same time, and has similarly completely displaced the earlier "short, crossdressing Sonic" depiction.
*** Note that this was because of an edict from Sega ordering all media of Sonic to be consistent with the game's designs, with various in-story reasons being offered for the changes.
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** While Ladd from the NES game looks nothing like the main character in the arcade version, he doesn't count as a redesign, since the player in the arcade game was just a nameless soldier (except in the American localization, which claimed he was Super Joe).
* The characters from the [[Neo Geo]] ''[[Double Dragon]]'' [[Recursive Adaptation|game based on the movie]] are twice-decayed: Billy and Jimmy only bear a vague resemblance to the original actors from the film (aside from their transformation ability), neither which had anything in common with the original characters to begin with other than the fact that one of them wore blue and other red. Same thing happened with Marian and Abobo. Burnov and Duke, who were characters from previous games not in the movie, only bear passing resemblances to their original designs.
* Most likely as a result of [[Did Not Do the Research]], the [[Game Cube]] version of ''Fight Night Round 2'' features a version of Little Mac who looks nothing like the character from the NES version of ''[[Punch Out|Punch-Out!!]]''. That's because the "Little Mac" in ''Fight Night'' is actually the main character from the SNES sequel ''Super Punch-Out!!'', who was just a generic boxer named by the player. ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' for the Wii, being a proper Nintendo-produced game, used the actual Little Mac from the NES game.
* The black-haired Ray Poward from the Appaloosa-made ''[[Contra]]'' games (''Contra: Legacy of War'' and ''C: The Contra Adventure'') looks nothing like the original blond-haired character from ''Contra: Hard Corps''.
* ''[[Wipeout]] HD: Fury'' is an expansion pack to ''Wipeout HD'' that replaces all of the vehicles with freaky, vaguely shattered-looking redesigns. They're almost completely unrecognizable.
** Ditto with ''Wipeout XL'', which replaced the pseudo-realistic homologized ships of the first ''Wipeout'' with extremely differentiated counterparts.
* Robo-Manus from ''[[Battletoads]]'' changed in terms of appearance in every single game. In fact, he started off the size of the 'Toads, but in the last game in the series, he was suddenly 70 &nbsp;ft. tall! Granted, this is ''Battletoads'' we're talking about; it could very well be because the staff of each new game couldn't make it far enough in the last to see what Robo-Manus looked like
* The Arwing from ''[[Star Fox (series)|Star FoxFOX]]'' has a different design in every game it's featured in. Only in ''Command'' was it given a genuine canonical upgrade in the form of the Arwing 2.
** To a lesser degree, Fox McCloud's design. The shape of his head in ''Command'' gives him a significantly more stylized and cartoonish look than his [[Game Cube]] appearances.
*** And all the characters look ([[Characterization Marches On|and act]]) a bit differently to how they did in the original ''Star Fox''. And the manual, where they were represented by actual puppet-like things.
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** In ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'' he had a case of You Don't Sound Like You. [[So Bad It's Good|Let's go, Junior]]!
** And King Boo in all appearances. [[Luigi's Mansion]] had him look plain horrifying, later games made him a normal(ish) goofy looking Boo with a crown who was just a standard [[King Mook]].
* The FMV opening in remakes of ''[[Final Fantasy II (Video Game)|Final Fantasy II]]'' depicts, in rough order of appearance, the [[Big Bad]] [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070324001446/finalfantasy/images/c/ca/FF2_Emperor.jpg Emperor Palamecia] [[The Hero]] [https://web.archive.org/web/20120510094532/http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080420191733/finalfantasy/images/8/83/Pers_Firion.jpg Firion], [[The Big Guy]] [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080225080751/finalfantasy/images/1/1d/Amano_Guy.jpg erm...Guy], [[Black Magician Girl]] [http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080225080647/finalfantasy/images/5/56/Amano_Maria.jpg Maria] ([[Stripperiffic|image mildly NSFW]]), and [[Black Knight]] [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080225080550/finalfantasy/images/1/18/Leon.jpg Leon]. And some [[Night of the Living Mooks|mooks]], but no one cares about them. See the opening [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtt9PUZWKiY here], and marvel at the differences. Leon doesn't get it too bad, Guy is badly altered but still basically "Guy," Firion and Maria resemble the actual character only vaguely, and if you hadn't been told beforehand that that was the Emperor, you would not recognize him.
* The entire original ''[[Alone in Thethe Dark]]'' trilogy is the only time Edward Carnby ever kept his appearance consistent. Carnby himself has his appearance changed about three times, and that's not counting [[Alone in the Dark (2005 film)|the Uwe Boll movie]] [https://web.archive.org/web/20111203163843/http://www.defunctgames.com/shows.php?id=freezeframe-75 but rather counting] ''[[Covers Always Lie|his ingame appearance after the boxart of the 2008 reboot!]]''
* ''[[Quake II]]'s'' Strogg race have received a total makeover in ''[[Quake 4|Quake IV]]''.
** In the same vein, the Demons of ''[[Doom (series)|Doom]] 3'' only somewhat resemble their counterparts from the earlier games in the series (though ''3'' was a reboot, so...)
* Dante's redesign in the upcoming ''[[Devil May Cry]]'' hasn't gotten much positive reception for this reason.
* Guybrush Threepwood from the [[Monkey Island]] series was originally supposed to be red haired as can be seen on the original cover art for [[The Secret of Monkey Island]]. However, the game portrays him with blondish hair due to the limited color palette. The second game, LeChuck's Revenge has him with a brown ponytail and a beard. The third game, The Curse Of Monkey Island gives him a bright blond messy ponytail and this is how he's stayed for Escape and the Tales series. The Special Edition remake of Monkey Island 2 has him with blond hair, which led to fan backlash.
* Kid Kool's design in the box art for [[Kid Kool And The Quest For The Seven Wonder Herbs]] for the NES has him look like a tough character, with black hair, muscles, sunglasses, a white shirt, a sleeveless leather jacket, sneakers and ripped jeans. The Kid Kool character in the actual game itself looks completely different; he is chubby, has brown hair and wears a brown shirt and white overalls. Are we talking about the same character here?
* In a bizarre inversion, the Fallout franchise mentions the Desert Rangers multiple times across the continuity. One is first encountered in the first game, where he is described as wearing a trench coat and gas mask, but uses the standard model for a character wearing combat armor. An actual suit of Desert Ranger Armor can be acquired over the course of [[Fallout: New Vegas]], which looks exactly like Tycho's getup is described--butdescribed—but nothing like how Tycho actually ''looked'' in the first game.
* All three [[Spyro the Dragon]] continuities completely redesign the purple dragon. In the Classic series he is a tiny, cute purple dragon with really small wings, in [[The Legend of Spyro Trilogy]] he is more armor plated with a different personality and another redesign to make him larger after a [[Plot-Relevant Age-Up]], and in the [[Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure|Skylanders]] series he is smaller again with his original personality, but now looks much less cute and has larger purple wings and a much bigger tail spike. The fandom is divided about these changes, to say the least...
* The ''[[Super Smash Bros.|Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' version of Pit from ''[[Kid Icarus]]''. Also serves as an [[Early-Bird Cameo]] of the character's incarnation in the upcoming game ''Kid Icarus: Uprising''.
** A similar case could be made for the ''Super Smash Bros'' interpretation of [[Fire Emblem Akaneia|Marth]] - while he retains the basic design tenets, he looks fairly different from his appearances in earlier games ''and'' subsequent games. In the case of subsequent games, this was accidental - the ''Shadow Dragon'' redesign of Marth was finalised just as they'd finalised his appearance in ''Brawl'', with neither development team having any idea of the other redesign effort until the ''SSB'' group came to show the ''Fire Emblem'' group their finalised Marth.
* ''[[StarcraftStarCraft II]]'' gives Jim Raynor almost a complete redesign. [http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nhSrUCC4Kl8/0.jpg This]{{Dead link}} is him in the original ''Starcraft'', while [http://www.freewebs.com/starcraftnurdz/hero-raynor-thumb-02.jpg this] is him in the sequel.
 
 
== [[Western Animation]] ==
* When Cleveland Jr. first appeared in ''[[Family Guy]]'', he was a thin hyperactive boy with a short attention span. When he was [[Transplant|transplantedtransplant]]ed into ''[[The Cleveland Show]]'', he was turned into a slow-talking dimwitted fat kid. In other words, he became the [[Race Lift|black]] [[Expy|version]] of Chris Griffin.
* Tanya Mousekewitz looks and acts different in every single ''[[An American Tail]]'' movie. Most prefer her design in ''Fievel Goes West''.
* In the cartoon version of ''[[Alvin and The Chipmunks]]'', the chipmunks are [[Funny Animal]] played straight. [[Alvin and the Chipmunks|The films]], on the other hand, make them look more like real-world chipmunks.
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* The narrow gauge engines in Season 5 of [[Thomas the Tank Engine]] don't look like how they did in the season prior. Many details were changed, and some engines had completely remodeled faces. It is said they made new larger models to capture more detail. The worst offender being Rusty, with a large drawn out face going all over his front, as opposed to the earlier model, which had a smaller face.
* The Broadway musical version of ''[[The Lion King]]'' for some reason actually portrayed [[The Hyena|Ed the hyena's]] costume with [[Pluto the Pup|Pluto's]] face!
* Every few years, [[Toonami]] would undergo a retool, usually resulting in [[Robot Buddy|TOM]] and [[Cool Starship|The GPSS Absolution]] getting new designs. Each redesign gave the impression of [[Took a Level Inin Badass|the ship and crew getting stronger]]. Then along came the fourth redesign, and well, [http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/sparkprime/TOMevolution.jpg see for yourself].
* Parodied in [[Homestar Runner|''Limozeen:]] [[Animated Adaptation|But they're]] [[Recycled in Space|IN SPACE!'']] where Mary Palorocini is actually drawn with red hair and a pot belly "because he's the comic relief!"
* Pete Jr. for some reason looked nothing like [[Goof Troop|how he is drawn now]] in his debut short, ''Bellboy Donald'', where he is actually drawn like [[Mickey Mouse]], but with cat ears. His currently accepted design looks like a younger and fatter version of his father, [[Pete]].
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