Young Justice (animation)/YMMV: Difference between revisions

** News of who were serving in the production of the show, and the image of the show's first promotional poster.

** Oh, they are making a new animat... Holy crap, [[Greg Weisman]] is producing (and writing)!

** [http://phillybee.deviantart.com/ Phil Bourassa] had a good reception for the character designs he produced for ''[[Justice League Crisis On Two Earths]]''. Once it was announced that he would be one of the main character designers for this show, a lot of fans were happy.

** Secret appearing in an episode appropriately written by [[Peter David]] (although {{spoiler|it's probably a one-time thing and her new [[Pokémon-Speak]] may turn off some.}}) She's the first such ''Young Justice'' comics member to appear in the show -- if one doesn't count Superboy, since his cartoon characterization is drawn from his later ''[[Teen Titans (Comic Book)|Teen Titans]]'' days and much unlike his [[Fun Personified|earlier self]].

** There was much rejoicing when it was revealed that [[Blue Beetle|Jaime Reyes]] would join in Season 2.

** Tim Drake coming in as the new Robin while Dick grew up to become Nightwing.

** Whenever a season 1 team member that wasn't immediately seen in the season 2 premiere appeared later. {{spoiler|Except possibly when Aqualad returned as a villain.}} Affected the [[Shipping|shippers]] in particular. (Happy now?)

** {{spoiler|Lian Harper exists.}}

* [[Arc Fatigue]]: For some fans, the yet-unresolved continuing grand scheme of The Light has become this in the second season. So the heroes foil the season-long plans of the Light - surprise, all that was only Phase 1! And some other fans were already thinking this during the first season. See [[Villain Sue]] below.

* [[Base Breaker]]:

** Miss Martian. Horrible abomination of a character, or delightful breath of fresh air in a team full of jerks? Her [[Catch Phrase]] ("Hello, Megan!") isn't helping matters. {{spoiler|Though these turned out to be [[Arc Words]] as well, directly connected to her character issues (and indirectly, Beast Boy.)}}

*** As of "Earthlings", we have whether or not {{spoiler|her mind raping a Krolotean leader to get information was [[There Is No Kill Like Overkill|unnecessary and overkilling it]] or whether [[I Did What I Had to Do|she did what she had to do.]]}}

** The Season 2 [[Time Skip]] has divided fans over the new characters replacing most of the old team, as well by as its very nature. It's either a hackneyed plot device which only leaves them wanting more of the old team as they were, or an awesome way to hit the ground running plot-wise and introduce more DC characters who wouldn't be the right age in season 1.

* [[Complete Monster]]: Harm intentionally invoked this in order to acquire the power of the Sword of Beowulf. Only the pure of heart can wield it, but it doesn't distinguish between pure good and pure evil. To become the latter, he murdered {{spoiler|his own sister}} in cold blood. The moment he shows a tiny hint of remorse when confronted by this, the Sword rejects him. Oddly, he's less of a [[Complete Monster]] than his comic-book counterpart, since he seems to have actually cared for her at one point... which might make it even worse, that he cared and could ''still'' do that to her.

* [[Derailing Love Interests]]: {{spoiler|M'gann's antiheroic activities have caused Conner to dump her.}}

* [[Die for Our Ship]]: Lagoon Boy, and it only took a single episode.

* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]:

** [[Blue Beetle]] in Season 2 is very popular, though whether he's a secondary character or a main character is still unclear.

* [[Evil Is Sexy]]:

** Cheshire.

** Harm.

* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: A lot of this. For instance, there's a lot of preference for Artemis/Robin.

* [[Foe Yay]]: Between Roy and Cheshire, especially on her part. {{spoiler|During the [[Time Skip]], they [[Official Couple|get married and have a child]].}}

** In "Bereft," Robin wakes up without his memories of the last six months, and yells "In ''September''?! What happened to March?" "Bereft" was the last episode aired before the six month hiatus... in March. "Targets" didn't officially premiere until... ''September.''

** Miss Martian tells Superboy to "Stop behaving like a character in a 70s Sitcom" during "Alpha Male", then several episodes pass, and during "Image", {{spoiler|this is shown to be [[Hypocritical Humor]] as we learn that her entire personality and appearance is based around that of a 70s Sitcom character.}}

* [[Idiosyncratic Ship Naming]]: Spitfire (Wally/Artemis), Chalant (Dick/Zatanna), Freshness (Dick/Wally), Traught (Dick/Artemis), and Christmas Arrow (Roy/Artemis or Roy/Ollie), to name a few.

* [[Internet Backdraft]]:

** Complaints about the marketing being sexist for focusing more or less exclusively on the male characters have also been common, and lead to many an argument online.

** Season 2's drastic Time Skip.

* [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships]]:

** [[Troubled but Cute|Superboy]], very quickly. Superboy/Aqualad, Superboy/Miss Martian, Superboy/Artemis, Superboy/Black Canary.

** Artemis and Kid Flash get their fair share as well. They've been paired with each other, Robin, Aqualad, Superboy, Miss Martian, Zatanna, Red Arrow, and their respective main-stream comic love interests. And that's not even getting into [[OT 3|threesomes]], mentor-shipping, or [[Crossover Ship|crossover shipping]].

** Heck, ''anyone'' in this show basically plays this trope straight. Aqualad and Miss Martian aren't entirely spared.

* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: The Light may be this to some, but the one with the most awesome moment so far may be Vandal Savage. You know, the guy who {{spoiler|brainwashed the entire Justice League and got them to bow down to him.}}

* [[Memetic Badass]]:

** Superman will take his pie to go. [[Mundane Made Awesome|*dramatic background music*]]

** Robin hacked the motion sensors.

* [[Memetic Sex God]]: Roy. It helps that he's voiced by [[Crispin Freeman]].

** Nightwing is this by default.

** "Failsafe" is an entire episode of it. [[It Got Worse|And it keeps. Getting. Worse.]]

** The fact that the series actually averts [[Infant Immortality]] with {{spoiler|Harm murdering his sister}}. This itself makes Harm this trope incarnate, combined with his creepy monotone, [[Third Person Person]] tendencies, and weird scars on his face.

* [[Portmanteau Couple Name]]: SuperMartian and AquaRocket, though a portmanteau of their hero names rather than civilian names, still count.

* [[Replacement Scrappy]] / [[Contested Sequel]]: Not literally the latter, because of [[Alternate Continuity|alternate continuities]], but the principle applies:

* [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]]: Superman in season two with respect with his relationship with Superboy and his questionable behaviour towards him in the first season.

** Bizarrely, {{spoiler|Aqualad's [[Face Heel Turn]]}} and {{spoiler|Ms. Martian's new penchant for [[Mind Rape]]}} are appreciated by some fans as finally giving them some character depth.

* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]:

** In spite of the fact that the series itself is ''not'' an adaptation of the ''Young Justice'' comics, quite a few fans of the comics aren't happy with the creative team's decision to alter the identities of characters from the comics of the same name. ([http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=866 Weisman's take on the issue].) Some fans' complaints are incredibly petty, such as people complaining that Superboy is [[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?|wearing cargo pants instead of jeans]].

** Superman's characterization and behavior regarding Superboy is a sticking point for many viewers, though [[What the Hell, Hero?|also for characters in-universe]].

** The Season 2 [[Time Skip]] gets a lot of this for [[Nothing Is the Same Anymore|changing almost everything]].

* [[Villain Sue]]: To some fans, the Light as a whole is starting to become this: almost all episodes end with a "[[The Untwist|twist]]" revealing that 1) the villain from this episode (even if he appeared to be an independent villain at first) was working for them, and 2) The apparent defeat the protagonists inflicted them end up at best retarding them a little, at worst went as they planned and allows them to go further in their grand scheme. Even when the heroes undid the damage the Light dealt in the season 1 finale (which had been brewing for all of season 1, and actually had been pulled off), they just went ahead to "[[Wham! Line|Phase 2]]", and they still have yet to be completely defeated.

* [[Wangst]]: Some of Superboy's angry [[Large Ham|overreactions.]]

** Brent Spiner as [[The Joker]] is one in a long list of strange casting choices for Mr. J.

** Invoked by Phil LaMarr in an interview with Rob Paulsen. He lets slip that {{spoiler|Virgil Hawkins}} is due to make an appearance on the show and wonders why they didn't let him audition. (Heard here at the 53:00 mark: http://techjives.net/2012/04/13/036-phil-lamarr-on-talkin-toons-with-rob-paulsen-weekly-voice-acting-and-voice-over-tips/)

** [[Blue Beetle]]. He opens his mouth and his [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] status is immediately thrown out the window.

* [[The Woobie]]: