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This kind of player takes the "pro" mentality to an annoying extreme, generally giving other tournament players a bad name (while his counterpart, the scrub, takes the casual mentality to an annoying extreme and generally gives other casual players a bad name). In the real world, there's room for both, and game companies generally try to put something in their games for both [[Player Archetypes]].
In the end, what makes a '''"Stop Having Fun!" Guy''' isn't the rule-setting; it's the attitude. While regular competitive/tournament players simply like playing to win, the "Stop Having Fun!" Guy believes that this is the ''only'' right way to play the game.
In a more general manner
See also: [[Scrub]], [[Serious Business]], [[Fan Dumb]], [[Fan Hater]] and [[Internet Backdraft]]. The larval form of the
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** In fact, pretty much the entire competitive ''Pokémon'' community is the epitome of this trope. If you’re one of the poor fools who ''dares'' to raise your Pokémon without <s>horribly and cruelly abusing/biologically mutating</s> EV Training them, you are going to be called a [[Scrub]] and be publicly humiliated. And if you even think about ''thinking about'' mentioning that it’s actually a physical possibility to play the game without regard to the endless amounts of soulless numbers and statistics, prepare to be mercilessly flamed until absolutely nothing is left of you.
** Heck, just having the "wrong" ''moveset'' can cause the "Stop Having Fun!" Guys to look down upon you. And to put it further, having the wrong nature, stats, and whatnot is also frowned upon.
*** Speaking of "correct" teams and moves: one war story has the teller losing five widely-used competitive Pokemon before sweeping with one normally ranked in the second-lowest tier, to the complete surprise of both players. The hilarity is best appreciated in [
** Do ''not'' mention you use "Uber" Pokemon. At all. Even if you're just a casual player (IE: Not very competitive) the more hardcore gamers will accuse you of using nothing more than "[[Game Breaker]]s" or "Relying too much on over-powered Pokemon to win battles". Heck, just having an "Uber" on your team and not even ''using'' it counts.
** [[Two Words: Obvious Trope|Two words: Action Replay]]. Hardcore Pokemon gamers will frown upon those who use "cheat codes" to obtain certain Pokemon (mainly Event Pokemon), even though it is technically legal to do so.
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** Similar but lesser hate can be directed as a player who uses speed mods or any built-in noteskins to make reading stepcharts easier, [[Wall Banger|even if some of this noteskins are default options on some of the games]]. The only possible exception is the Solo modifier on older DDR arcade releases: due to a bug, if one player chose Solo, both players had to have it on.
* For a while, the speed mod debate carried over to ''[[Guitar Hero]]''. It certainly didn't help that in all ''Guitar Hero'' games so far '''but''' ''GH5'',<ref>Yes, even ''VanHalen'', which was released after ''GH5'', if only because it ran on a pre-''GH5'' engine.</ref> speed modifiers were filed under the cheats menu.
* The online game [https://web.archive.org/web/20140117201426/http://www.jamlegend.com/ JamLegend]'s score system awards most experienced players a golden "P" (pro) badge. Pray you don't end up in a multiplayer match made up of pros...
** Besides that, most comments on the songs will simply consist of "FC" (Full Combo), sometimes followed up with "Too easy" or "Can't believe someone failed it". The moderator staff deleted them at first, but eventually resigned and let the SHFGs shout out their pride.
* Homebrew Bemani games falls victim to SHFG traps, most stepcharts wind up in the vein of "It is supposed to be hard, learn to play" songs. Rather evident in StepMania and Osu!
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** If you post a list containing the most powerful units you can choose (such as the aforementioned las/plas squads), you will provoke an equally acerbic response. Such armies are criticised for not fitting in with the critic's idea of the background material (which will differ from critic to critic) -- and, especially, for being [[Game Breaker]]s and not the 'right way to play'.
* ''[[Warhammer]]'' and ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' are prime wargame examples. Use certain units or make a themed army, even if they're fluffy and fun, and the hardcore grognards will generally lecture on efficiency and effectiveness then probably advise the same cookie-cutter army that other people use to win. Make a wacky paint scheme and get decried by traditionalists. Make an army with a background that doesn't strictly follow established canon (like a loyal [[Space Marine]] army that is descended from one of the Traitor Legions) and prepare to be lambasted by canon-is-God players. Unless you say you're going back 10,000 years. With the [[Horus Heresy]] such a squiggly knot in history with Chaos playing some kind of supremely-advanced Risk, practically anything will go.
** On that last note, tone and background are important factors. Gag armies are typically well-received by good-humoured players ([[
* ''[[Heroes of Might and Magic]]''. If you didn't use the Armageddon + magic immune Black Dragons combo you're just completely devoid of common sense.
** Worse yet: In ''[[Heroes of Might and Magic]] V'' there are people who actually come with arguments of how the Dungeon faction, specialist in destruction magic, is now completely ruined and obviously inferior to any other faction using destruction magic because other Heroes don't have a natural skill that pierces magic resistance, and thus, the Black Dragon's magic immunity, regardless of the fact that Warlocks, the Dungeon heroes, does from 50% to 200% more damage with destruction and receives way more Spell Power than any other faction hero save necromancers, and these are better off debuffing enemy armies and raising back theirs than wasting their mana in damaging spells. Trying using a destruction spell that isn't Armageddon didn't cross anyone's mind apparently.
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== Non-Video game examples ==
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* It is not uncommon to find persons in any fandom who have taken a personal offense at a particular popular [[Fanfic]] or other fan work and make it their mission to insult anyone who likes it while discouraging newcomers from trying it.
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' If any game can be considered personification of this trope, this would be it. It seems like the majority of duelists who play the game are like this, netdecking like crazy, dismissing cards that aren't [[Too Awesome to Use]] as utter crap, and completely willing to ''rape'' the 10% of players who only play the game for fun. Flame wars have been started over duelists asking how to make a good Elemental Hero deck (considered [[So Bad It's Horrible]] among the elite), with both sides being chewed out as talentless, brainless hacks. Also the Seven Staples (a group of Broken cards) once made even the most fearsome high attack monsters like the Blue-Eyes White Dragon useless as they would be decimated the moment they are summoned by a simple pit.▼
* ''Certain'' [[Canon]] purists when it comes to [[Fanfic]]. Most canon sticklers will give plenty of leeway when it stories that take place "between the scenes" or that play around but still remain canon-compliant. They give even more leeway if the story is marked as an [[Alternate Universe Fic|AU]] as long as canon isn't completely [[Canon Defilement|defiled]]. However, regardless of fandom there is ''always'' a certain group that will have none of that.
** The seriousness of the fanbase is [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] in ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]]'', where the main character, Judai, will regularly remind opponents that dueling is supposed to be fun. These people will always act [[Serious Business|shocked and amazed]], believing Judai to be foolish and childish. Judai is the source of the Elemental Hero deck to begin with, having debuted it in GX. Later, as part of his [[Deconstruction]], Judai develops this mentality himself, and part of Season 4 is an attempt by his friends help him regain his old passion for the game.▼
** Hell, just writing fanfic, period, is enough. For every ten fanfic enthusiasts, there's one SHFG whining that they should be writing original fiction instead. Stop having hobbies I don't approve of, guys!▼
** Interestingly, the character of Seto Kaiba from the original '''Yu-Gi-Oh''' story (who is himself an example of this trope) was inspired by one of these. [[Word of God|According to the author]] he had once asked a friend to teach him how to play a TCG, but his friend said "Come back when you've collected 10,000 cards."▼
* ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'' designers call the players with the "only winning matters" mentality Spikes, in contrast to Timmies (who treat the game as a social outlet and like exciting play with big, impressive effects) and Johnnies (who treat the game as an intellectual exercise and creative medium and like unusual effects that complement each other). The design team generally tries to make sure there's something for each of these three player profiles in every expansion. Note that not all Spikes fall into this trope; see [[Player Archetypes]] for details.▼
** There is, though, a common belief among tourney players that if any card that costs four or more mana doesn't win the game for you on the spot, it should never even be put in your deck, which the more experienced tourney jocks know ain't so and casual players find laughable. The specific quote comes from Zvi Mowshowitz, long time professional ''Magic'' player; but even he finds the idea laughable nowadays as seen in this [http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/deck/10 article].▼
** Particularly irritating are those who fill their decks with foreign-language cards for "variation" and almost roll their eyes out of their skulls if you have to actually ask what a particular card actually ''does''.▼
** There is a definite subtype of Spike, though, that loves to fill their deck with only "good" rares, barring basic lands. You're winning? Spike's attitude becomes a bit abusive and Spike acts like your deck is cheap, no matter what it's composed of. Spike is winning? Spike then becomes condescending about how "It's a shame you can't afford all the great cards like Spike can."▼
** To make matters even worse, there's a subset of tournament players who play in "Friday Night Magic" (the most casual of the game's nationally sanctioned tournament formats) just to boost their player rating. Why is rating important? Because a high rating can qualify you for high-level tournaments that aren't necessarily open to all players, among other things. So these players will farm rating off of any newbie or cash-poor regular who shows up at the tournament looking for a fun chance to play some ''Magic''. As if that weren't bad enough, a common response to beating the stuffing out of the "lesser" player is along the lines of "Well, you didn't lose that much rating anyway, since yours is so much lower than mine." Ignoring the fact that if you cared about your rating at all, the match might have lasted longer than seven minutes, including time to shuffle.▼
** Dan Shive, of ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'', reports the following dialogue following a game of ''Magic'' (he was the one using the card):▼
{{quote|"That's a terrible, stupid card that sucks and should never go in any deck."▼
"I just beat you with it."▼
"It's still horrible."}}▼
** As a contrast to the above points, ''Magic: the Gathering'' can also be played in Limited formats. In such a circumstance, you have less choice about what cards to put into your deck and it is independent of how much money you have. You cannot fill your deck with foreign language cards for "variation", it is difficult to fill your deck with only "good" rares (since most of the cards you will draft will probably be common cards). about "if any card that costs four or more mana doesn't win the game for you on the spot, it should never even be put in your deck", well you won't always be given that choice so a player who "plays always to win" at Limited will need different strategies.▼
* Try playing most card games for fun. Some, like Texas Hold'em (and other forms of Poker), get this treatment more so than others. People also insult you for not playing the game correctly. Which is ironic, considering that, for the most part, the people being insulted are effectively ''handing out free money'' to the people who hate them; insulting opposing poker players for perceived mistakes can be a huge part of the [[Meta Game]].▼
** However, poker games do not even necessarily have to be played for money. Tournament-style games needn't be played for anything at all (although usually still are played for money and/or trophies); cash-games (a.k.a. ring-games) must be played using resources outside of the game to bet, which is usually money, but you can use paperclips or your blood or whatever you own if you wish to enter such a game.▼
=== Music ===
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* Brilliantly skewered in a ''[[Calvin and Hobbes]]'' strip where Calvin is criticizing a clay tiger made by Hobbes.
{{quote|'''Hobbes:''' Who cares, I wanted to make it.
'''Calvin:''' What is this, some sort of snobby ''aesthetic'' thing?!}}
* Also shown in ''[[Baby Blues]]''. Zoe wants to have some fun cup-stacking while Darryl offers to be her coach. When she refuses, saying she just wants to have fun with cup-stacking, Darryl asks, "What kind of mentality is that?!"
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** Have you ever seen Hockey Dads? Some of them ''have beaten each other to death.''
** In the Netherlands we have Soccer Dads acting exactly the same.
** ''The Fast Show''
* Hunting and Fishing have often been known to attract these types. But of course there are quite a bit of people who're willing to give you some slack. Not everyone is really going to be performing at their peak when it's five in the morning, or lucky enough to catch a really big one. But there are people who can be yelling at you for catching ''too much'' fish or getting a kill bigger than they got. Oh you got a bigger trophy than I did? Beginner's luck...I got a bigger one? What finesse! What skill!
** Of particular note for mass hilarity is ice fishing, though some tournaments do state upfront they ban all but certain specific ways of fishing. Go ahead and use a spear or large handheld net normally though. Just do it. Lets ignore the fact the Inuit have done it this way for centuries, civilized people only use rod & tackle, same as in normal fishing... and God help you if you're sitting on anything other than your bait box. A lawn chair? You scummy suburbanite trendwhore! How dare you also dress comfortably!
* British amateur ski-jump enthusiast Eddie "The Eagle" Edwards was able to compete in the 1988 Winter Olympic Games in Calgary due to a rule allowing a nation to send an athlete in any sport for which there was a competititon, regardless of previous achievements by that athlete. Edwards, a middle-aged, myopic man who looks more like an ice cream vendor than an athlete, was to be honest a really, really bad ski-jumper. But his enthusiasm for the sport, as well as his "never give up" attitude and his statements that he was here for the "fun of competing in the Olympics", endeared him to the general public. Unfortunately, many of the "big name" jumpers felt that Edwards was "making a mockery" of the sport by being so bad at it and yet daring to compete in the Olympics with anything but a "win or die" attitude. Shortly after the Olympics finished, the entry requirements were greatly toughened, making it next to impossible for any other self-funded, self-trained amateur athletes to gain entry into the Olympics.
=== Tabletop Games ===
▲* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' If any game can be considered personification of this trope, this would be it. It seems like the majority of duelists who play the game are like this, netdecking like crazy, dismissing cards that aren't [[Too Awesome to Use]] as utter crap, and completely willing to ''rape'' the 10% of players who only play the game for fun. Flame wars have been started over duelists asking how to make a good Elemental Hero deck (considered [[So Bad It's Horrible]] among the elite), with both sides being chewed out as talentless, brainless hacks. Also the Seven Staples (a group of Broken cards) once made even the most fearsome high attack monsters like the Blue-Eyes White Dragon useless as they would be decimated the moment they are summoned by a simple pit.
▲** The seriousness of the fanbase is [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] in ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]]'', where the main character, Judai, will regularly remind opponents that dueling is supposed to be fun. These people will always act [[Serious Business|shocked and amazed]], believing Judai to be foolish and childish. Judai is the source of the Elemental Hero deck to begin with, having debuted it in GX. Later, as part of his [[Deconstruction]], Judai develops this mentality himself, and part of Season 4 is an attempt by his friends help him regain his old passion for the game.
▲** Interestingly, the character of Seto Kaiba from the original '''Yu-Gi-Oh''' story (who is himself an example of this trope) was inspired by one of these. [[Word of God|According to the author]] he had once asked a friend to teach him how to play a TCG, but his friend said "Come back when you've collected 10,000 cards."
▲* ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'' designers call the players with the "only winning matters" mentality Spikes, in contrast to Timmies (who treat the game as a social outlet and like exciting play with big, impressive effects) and Johnnies (who treat the game as an intellectual exercise and creative medium and like unusual effects that complement each other). The design team generally tries to make sure there's something for each of these three player profiles in every expansion. Note that not all Spikes fall into this trope; see [[Player Archetypes]] for details.
▲** There is, though, a common belief among tourney players that if any card that costs four or more mana doesn't win the game for you on the spot, it should never even be put in your deck, which the more experienced tourney jocks know ain't so and casual players find laughable. The specific quote comes from Zvi Mowshowitz, long time professional ''Magic'' player; but even he finds the idea laughable nowadays as seen in this [http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/deck/10 article].
▲** Particularly irritating are those who fill their decks with foreign-language cards for "variation" and almost roll their eyes out of their skulls if you have to actually ask what a particular card actually ''does''.
▲** There is a definite subtype of Spike, though, that loves to fill their deck with only "good" rares, barring basic lands. You're winning? Spike's attitude becomes a bit abusive and Spike acts like your deck is cheap, no matter what it's composed of. Spike is winning? Spike then becomes condescending about how "It's a shame you can't afford all the great cards like Spike can."
▲** To make matters even worse, there's a subset of tournament players who play in "Friday Night Magic" (the most casual of the game's nationally sanctioned tournament formats) just to boost their player rating. Why is rating important? Because a high rating can qualify you for high-level tournaments that aren't necessarily open to all players, among other things. So these players will farm rating off of any newbie or cash-poor regular who shows up at the tournament looking for a fun chance to play some ''Magic''. As if that weren't bad enough, a common response to beating the stuffing out of the "lesser" player is along the lines of "Well, you didn't lose that much rating anyway, since yours is so much lower than mine." Ignoring the fact that if you cared about your rating at all, the match might have lasted longer than seven minutes, including time to shuffle.
▲** Dan Shive, of ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'', reports the following dialogue following a game of ''Magic'' (he was the one using the card):
▲{{quote|"That's a terrible, stupid card that sucks and should never go in any deck."
▲"I just beat you with it."
▲"It's still horrible."}}
▲** As a contrast to the above points, ''Magic: the Gathering'' can also be played in Limited formats. In such a circumstance, you have less choice about what cards to put into your deck and it is independent of how much money you have. You cannot fill your deck with foreign language cards for "variation", it is difficult to fill your deck with only "good" rares (since most of the cards you will draft will probably be common cards). about "if any card that costs four or more mana doesn't win the game for you on the spot, it should never even be put in your deck", well you won't always be given that choice so a player who "plays always to win" at Limited will need different strategies.
▲* Try playing most card games for fun. Some, like Texas Hold'em (and other forms of Poker), get this treatment more so than others. People also insult you for not playing the game correctly. Which is ironic, considering that, for the most part, the people being insulted are effectively ''handing out free money'' to the people who hate them; insulting opposing poker players for perceived mistakes can be a huge part of the [[Meta Game]].
▲** However, poker games do not even necessarily have to be played for money. Tournament-style games needn't be played for anything at all (although usually still are played for money and/or trophies); cash-games (a.k.a. ring-games) must be played using resources outside of the game to bet, which is usually money, but you can use paperclips or your blood or whatever you own if you wish to enter such a game.
=== Web Comics ===
* [http://xkcd.com/359/ This ''xkcd'' strip] is the [[Trope Namer]]. We've mutated it a little, though -- "guys" there were the people who were having fun when someone else thought they shouldn't; we've jiggered the punctuation to name the trope for the person objecting to the fun instead.
* [http://www.dorktower.com/2014/01/29/edition-bores-dork-tower-29-01-14/ This] 2014 ''[[Dork Tower]]'' strip addresses the version-haters: "Name one thing - ''one thing'' - that's good about that edition. ''One!''"
=== Web Original ===
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* Art in general tends to attract this trope, mostly thanks to the [[True Art]] tropes that can be at play.
* Film preference can be bad about this. Fan or lover of an [[Epic Movie]]? You're a [[Lowest Common Denominator]] [[It's Popular, Now It Sucks|with no real taste or idea]] of what separates the [[True Art|real stuff]] from those [[Cliche Storm]]s that Hollywood belches out... And yes, it even happens here on All The Tropes.
▲* ''Certain'' [[Canon]] purists when it comes to [[Fanfic]]. Most canon sticklers will give plenty of leeway when it stories that take place "between the scenes" or that play around but still remain canon-compliant. They give even more leeway if the story is marked as an [[Alternate Universe Fic|AU]] as long as canon isn't completely [[Canon Defilement|defiled]]. However there is a certain group that will have none of that. Fanfic stories must adhere strictly to canon and never deviate from what has been explicitly presented. For example, a canon purist who is also a "Stop Having Fun!" Guy will flame an author for describing a character's home or having him go there because this home never appeared on any episode of the show, which defeats the point of making a fanfic in the first place. But when a fic follows canon ''too'' closely, they bitch that [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks]].
▲** Hell, just writing fanfic, period, is enough. For every ten fanfic enthusiasts, there's one SHFG whining that they should be writing original fiction instead. Stop having hobbies I don't approve of, guys!
* Any time a thread is started about anything religious/paranormal/UFO/conspiratorial/or creepy-pasta related among said enthusiasts tends to attract condescending, skeptical know-it-alls who insist on making it very clear to you that it's not real/fake/hoax, etc... and that you're a dumb ass for discussing and believing in such things.
* Whenever a comic book character is adopted into television or movie form, there will be legions of angry fanboys screaming about ''every. single. detail'' that differs even ''slightly'' from the comics. For examples, see: ''[[Smallville]]'',
* There exist in this world people who believe in the "correct" way to watch ''[[Star Trek]]'', or indeed any other film or show. They may not agree with one another as to whether it is appropriate, when watching a [[Rubber Forehead Alien]] die slowly and emotionally, to laugh out loud at his forehead, but whichever they do they will be ready to insult people who don't.
* AutoTune. Stop enjoying yourself by distorting your voices for aesthetic effect, artists!
** Using it for aesthetic effect is not the main use of AutoTune. In more professional circles, the bigger issue is most people using AutoTune are using it improperly. Most people using it are using it to pitch correct notes. If it is used properly, no one should know AutoTune was used. People obviously using AutoTune, but not using it for effect tend to be the ones that get ridicule. Of course, in amateur and fan circles most of the AutoTune hatred is [[Fan Dumb]].
* Older people expressing an interest in activities or forms of entertainment that are more commonly associated with kids or teenagers are routinely belittled as being losers, immature, creepy, etc. Once you turn twenty-five, you are apparently no longer permitted to enjoy cartoons, video games, cosplay, fanfiction, anime, Halloween or anything else that has been arbitrarily designated as "kids/teens only." The only way you're allowed to enjoy such things unironically is vicariously through a kid, either yours or one that you "borrowed" so you'd have an excuse to do "kid stuff." Stop having fun, old guys, lest someone label you a stunted deviant that won't grow up because you own a PS3. And never mind that the people who created the material for consumption by kids only are usually in their late twenties, thirties, or even *GASP!* their forties (my God, why are people allowed to live to that age???).
* This is the attitude of many [[NaNoWriMo]] haters, who seem to have the mindset of, [[Completely Missing the Point|"If you can't write a
* In the early 2020s, electronic traffic signs started adding humor to their warnings and announcements, like "100 is The Temperature - Not the Speed Limit" and (at Christmas) "Only [[Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer|Rudolph]] Should Drive Lit". Naturally, anything that might make a driver smile and reduce his stress level can't be tolerated -- starting in 2026 the US Federal Highway Administration will ban the use of jokes and pop-culture references in electronic signs, claiming that the messages distract drivers.
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