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This is a double-edged sword. Someone could add an example they made up and there is really nothing you could do to stop them. If the discussion finds an example to be a purely fiction then it might get deleted, ''might''. That's the way of things. But remember, we're here to have fun. Don't let this stuff burn you out.
=== ... Except works that aren't available ===
This page title is kind of a misnomer, because of [[ATT:UNPUB]]. Any work that exists in the wild is fair game for All The Tropes, but if a work is not yet published, the notability requirement kicks in. People can keep anything they want on a personal, unpublished work in their user space -- anything that's a subpage of your user page, like your sandbox. If you want to talk about it in the main wiki, though, it needs to be something that other people are aware of. Anything that's caught the attention of a fan site or industry trade publication is likely okay. If it's been discussed in the general media, like the latest superhero movie, then definitely feel free to create a page based on trailers. (The trailers should provide enough information for a stub page... but keep in mind that [[Trailers Always Lie]].) We'll be needing it soon enough [[Development Hell|… probably]].
Another kind of work that's unavailable is something that once was available but now no longer exists -- like a fanfic that disappeared when the author's website did, or a video taken down from YouTube -- and for which there is no copy stored in the [[Wayback Machine]]. It's impossible to write a proper work page for a work you can't read, listen to, or watch; please don't do it. The only exception to this guideline would be certain works of antiquity which are only known by references to them in other works that survived where they did not. These can be documented to the extent that formal scholars have.
Oh, and if a disappeared work had a page created here while it still existed, that's okay. Just mark it with the {{tl|MIA}} template if it doesn't have it already. This will warn the reader that the work no longer can be found anywhere on the Net.
=== ... And works that don't really exist ===
There's another kind of work that's unavailable -- something someone made up which never existed in the first place. [[TV Tropes]] was rife with them, jokes and homages and just-for-fun things like ''Walt Disney's [[The Diary of a Young Girl|Anne Frank]]''. We here at All The Tropes have tried to eliminate a lot of them, because if you weren't in on the joke to begin with, you might not realize it's fake, and they kind of dilute the work we've put in on the real stuff. There are a few examples that are still around, because they're generally part of another work -- like ''[[Inspector Spacetime]]'', which is a [[Show Within a Show]] on ''[[Community]]''. But in general, if it doesn't exist, neither should a page for it.<ref>And just note that trying to get a page for something that doesn't exist past the mod staff is a [[All The Tropes:How We Do Bans Around Here|grounds for a permanent ban on the first offense]]. We're trying to be an academic resource -- a fun, informal academic resource but still an academic resource. Bogus works dilute the value and worth of the wiki, and also threaten the justification we have for fair use of a lot of our images.</ref>
== By, For, and About Fans ==
The TV Tropes Wiki and, subsequently, All The Tropes were both started by fans. People, that is, who ''like'' stuff. You will see that articles work better here when they are about something you like. (Yes, even the [[Darth Wiki]] pages.) This is a little bit of a shock to folks that are used to cynicism about the media. It takes a minute or two to get used to.
[[All The Tropes:What we aren't#We are not a "reception wiki"|People who come looking for a place to bash stuff and rant about how ''dumb'' this or that is are in for some disappointment.]] Here, anyway. There are plenty of places on the 'Net to bash stuff. Shouldn't be too hard to find one.
This doesn't mean, of course, that every article is all sweetness and light, just that the articles trend more toward [[Constructive Criticism|constructive criticisms]] than toward cynical bashing. More toward what does work, and how it works, than what didn't work and why it didn't.
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