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When a work of fiction is insistent on the differences between religious idealism and the realism demanded by the plot, overly religious characters may be portrayed as out of touch with the demands and opinions of the world around them. When said work of fiction is a video game, however, there may be bonuses related to the adherence to faith. May lead to Ideological [[Rock-Paper-Scissors]] if religion, magic, and science [[Science Fantasy|coexist in the same universe]] and are [[Magic Versus Science|out to get one another]].
 
Some of the more stereotypical character traits - which are not always present in a work - used in this trope are:
 
* BeingReligious opposed topeople [[Science Is Bad|sciencewill withbe variousopposed reasonsto cited for itscience]]. Consequently, Religiousreligious people will be against medicine, either [[You Can't Fight Fate|refusing to treat the sickness because its considered the will of the Powers-That-Be]] or they will only use religious ritualstry to fix it with religious rituals. They may also hate technology even when it could solve the problem they're facing.
* Religious people are uneducated, as education centers overseen by religious people either lack or shun scientific knowledge. They will happily[[Easy Evangelism|quickly apostatize]] when given a little bit of scientific knowledge, and [[Bonus Points]] if said religion is made easy to disprove. Expect the latter two in an [[Author Tract]].
* Religious people are all [[The Ditz|inherently unintelligent]] and/or [[UnwittingGullible PawnLemmings|easily manipulated]]. Anyone [[God Guise|impersonating their figure of worship]] or [[Hiding Behind Religion|claiming to be working on their behalf]] can get religious people to unthinkingly obey them. This can go hand-in-hand with religious people only belivingbelieving because they've been brainwashed or religion itself is considered brainwashing.
* Religious people are superstitious and will probably also believe any urban legend or conspiracy theory. Expect the fact that religion and superstition are two different things to be disregarded.
* Religious people [[The Fundamentalist|cannot get along with or tolerate anyone who doesn't follow their religion.]] and/or Oftenare toinherently theviolent. point that they often react violently to non-believers, andAnd apparently the very idea of "interfaith" or "non-denominational" groups is unheard of in the story.
* Religious people refuse to allow their beliefs to be questioned and [[Berserk Button|react badly at any attempt to do so]].
* Religious people onlyare winso newsmug followersabout their religion that [[JoinBerserk or DieButton|bythey force]]react or [[Appealbadly to Force|the threatquestioning ofanything usingabout forceit]].
* Religious people only win new followers [[Join or Die|by force]], an [[Appeal to Force]] or an [[Appeal to Consequences]].
* Religious people are uncultured killjoys and/or workaholics whoof willeither opposethe anythingstodgy consideredmilquetoast enjoyablevariety or thatthe makesaggressive peoplebusybody passionatevariety. Bonus points if religious people are depicted as fearing their own desires.
* Religious people [[New Media Are Evil|hate new media, denouncing it as a product of evil]], a gateway to evil or shunning it as being used for evil even if it can also be used for good.
 
Compare [[If Jesus, Then Aliens]], [[No Such Thing as Space Jesus]], [[Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions]], [[Lawful Stupid, Chaotic Stupid]], and many versions of the [[Corrupt Church]]. Contrast [[God Guise]], in which the effect is quaint or humorous rather than abrasive, [[Clap Your Hands If You Believe]], where belief actually alters reality, and [[Flat Earth Atheist]], where ''dis''belief makes you stupid. Likely to be a [[Straw Character]]. Probably takes the Enlightenment side of [[Romanticism Versus Enlightenment]]. Overuse or one-sidedness may be a sign that the work is an [[Author Tract]]. If the belief is actually true, expect reinforcing action from a [[Celestial Bureaucracy]].
 
The polar opposite is [[Hollywood Atheist]].
 
As with other tropes, this trope is a commentary on Real Life attitudes crafted to suit the purposes of various authors. While, like all stereotypes, there's an element of truth, and there is always going to be a [[Vocal Minority|certain percentage]] of religious people who exhibit one or more these characteristics, that does not mean one should assume those characteristics apply to every religious person they meet ''or'' every follower of a particular religion. Each religion should be assessed on as much of its history as possible, along with teachings and merits, rather than tarring some or all with the same brush. On that note, the assumption that religiosity is inherently irrational and/or makes a person that way is one many religious people find ''deeply'' insulting. {{noreallife|we at All The Tropes do not condone bad-mouthing real-world religions, or putting down people for their religious beliefs. Above all, remember the [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement]].}}
 
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== Anime and Manga ==
* Kanzaki Kaori and Stiyl Magnus in ''[[A Certain Magical Index]]''., due to Allall of the [[YouArtistic FailLicense: Biology Forever|Failingbiological Neurologyliberties Forevertaken]] combined with the ensuing [[Your Mind Makes It Real]]. Granted, the science side in this series isn't any better...
* In all versions of ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' (all versions), Ed and Al travels to a town where everyone except for the leader of the [[Corrupt Church]] runs on this trope. Such- asfor example, blindly following a manipulative con artist, and when he disappears, gogoing violent and destroydestroying everything.
** Granted, the science side in this series isn't any better...
* In ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' (all versions) Ed and Al travels to a town where everyone except for the leader of the [[Corrupt Church]] runs on this trope. Such as blindly following a manipulative con artist, and when he disappears, go violent and destroy everything.
** The manga and Brotherhood series as a whole subverts the trope, however, as it takes Ed the entirety of the series to figure out the truth behind... erm... Truth.
* ''[[Simoun]]'' [[Deconstruction|takes this trope, puts it over its knee, gives it a paddling, whips it with chains, and throws its lacerated corpse in a ditch]]. The series' depiction of its one 'strong atheist' character's bitter, unhelpful, avaricious stupidity and almost palpable, reptilian sleaziness is... quite something. There ''are'' sympathetic non-religious characters, including one of the main romantic leads, but overall this is pretty much the anti-''[[Agora]]'' in its portrayal of religion.
 
== Comic Books ==
* The religious fanatics in "[[Bio Apocalypse]]" take this trope to the extreme.
* Termight Empire in [[Nemesis the Warlock]] are religious fanatics seeing aliens as demons, worshipping clearly insane leader as a God and getting themselves killed with undying fanatism. Nemesis' battlecry is ''Credo!'' (''Believe'' in latin), but he points out he means it like "belive in yourself".
 
== Film ==
* ''[[Agora]]'', focusing on the death of the philosopher Hypatia, depicts Christians as fanatical assholes, in whichwith their fanaticism is raised [[Up to Eleven]] thanks to the sheer intolerance towards pagans and Jews; the "stupid" part of the trope comes from the fact their intolerance blinds them to the point of stupidity, attacking at random with disastrous consequences. The accounts used comescome from pagan writer [[wikipedia:Hypatia#Late Antiquity to the Age of Reason|Damascius]] (who was enemies with the Christians) and Edward Gibbon (a strong atheist).
* ''[[Monty Python's Life of Brian]]'' depicts religious believers as stupid at a number of points, refusing to think for themselves and fracturing off into sects divided by trivialities. The Jewish revolutionary organizations and the followers of Brian are both examples.
* In ''[[O Brother, Where Art Thou?]]'', the escaped prisoner, Everett, repeatedly chides people for their religious gullibility. Examples:
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* Religious people in Neal Stephenson's ''[[Anathem]]'' run the full gamut of stupid, from trying to murder a guy who saved one of their members' lives to believing that strange lights in the sky are a sign that the world is going to be judged.
** ''[[Anathem]]'' also provides plenty of counter-examples. Ganelial Crade is religious, and while his religion can get in the way of his critical thinking, he's not completely stupid. The avout end up empathizing with his faith: while they don't agree with it, they feel much of what the believers feel. Then there's Cord, one of the most intelligent non-avout characters in the book, who ends up joining the Kelx faith.
* Although the [[Discworld]] novels criticize organized religion much more than belief itself, the third ''[[Discworld/The Science of Discworld|The Science of Discworld]]'' book, ''Darwin's Watch'', employs this trope somewhat.
** "Somewhat" in this case meaning "If Darwin hadn't written ''Origin of the Species'', humanity would never leave the planet before it froze."
*** He doesn't just not write it; he writes a book just as convincing in the other direction and more or less ''ends science''.
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** The Emperor, agreeing with this trope, outlawed any form of faith so human belief won't empower Chaos anymore. Not only did it not work as faith is only a part of Chaos' "diet" (it feeds on emotions as well), but also [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|let everybody in the dark about existence of nasty dark gods and demons that would like to give you great power for terrible price, leading to]] the ''[[Horus Heresy]]''.
* ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]''
** In ''[[Planescape]]'' lack of belief is [[Flat Earth Atheist|plain weird]], thanks to being set mostly in the parts of the Multiverse that run on [[Clap Your Hands If You Believe]]. Everyone believes if something, if only their precious [[Manifest Destiny]]. There's a vocal atheist faction, but it believes in hidden truths and even they can be priests, just of [[Concepts Are Cheap|ideas/abstract ideals]] rather than personified powers. Inner planes are different, but there people are mostly concerned with survival (and occasionally politics) instead.
** And the [[Forgotten Realms]]. [[And I Must Scream|Considering what happens to the Faithless]], you'd be much dumber to ''not'' worship a god.
*** It's more the other way around, that is in the world so teeming with jostling and politicking divinities that outsiders half-expect there to be a local [[Odd Job Gods|God of Beer Mugs]], being an atheist is kind of like not believing in air or water. Not everyone even knows of the wall, but apparently it appeared after the last time the Faithless were majority of a faction with significant power.
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