Betty and Veronica: Difference between revisions

** ''[[Macross 7]]'' had a gender-reversed version of the trope, with Gamlin as the Betty and Basara as the Veronica.

** As does ''[[Macross Plus]]'', where brash and rebellious Isamu is the Veronica, and serious and caring Guld seems to be a Betty. And then it puts everything on its head in [[The Reveal]], because {{spoiler|Guld, a psychotic [[Attempted Rape|would-be rapist]], is [[The Atoner]] who got [[Redemption Equals Death]] moment in the end}}; while {{spoiler|Isamu [[I Want My Beloved to Be Happy|wanted Myung to be happy]], and thus removed himself from the picture, becoming something of a [[Death Seeker]], but after Guld's [[Redemption Equals Death]] he and Myung stay together.}}.

* Subverted ''hard'' in ''[[Double Arts]]''. When "Betty" (Ellie) tentatively inquires about Kiri's feelings for the obvious "Veronica" candidate (Sui), he practically goes into a [[Heroic BSOD]]. Turns out they already tried dating. And she dumped him. Three times. So much for ''that'' [[Love Triangle]]...

* ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' offers perhaps the best example of how subjective this trope can be. In Japan, [[Shy Blue-Haired Girl|Rei]] is seen as the Betty because of her gentle disposition and general [[Yamato Nadeshiko|reservedness]], whereas the [[Fiery Redhead]]ed [[Foreign Fanservice|foreigner]] Asuka is the cultural Veronica because her forceful and aggressive personality is just so strange to the [[Japanese Politeness|generally reserved]] Japanese public. Contrast this with more demonstrative Western audiences, who see the more outgoing, more human, more [[Badass Adorable|badass]], and more [[Cannot Spit It Out|overtly in love]] Asuka as the familiar Betty, and the [[Creepy Child|bizarre]], [[Emotionless Girl|cold]], and [[Uncanny Valley|strangely unsettling]] Rei as the exotic Veronica. Then add in [[White-Haired Pretty Boy|Kaworu]], a [[Gay Option|Gay]] [[Third Option Love Interest]] so popular in [[Ho Yay|fandom]] that he was made ''canon'' in almost all the alternate continuities.

* In ''[[Ratman]]'', Shuto's female admirers are both a mix of Betty and Veronica traits while still in stark contrast to one another. On one hand is Mirea Mizushima, his exotically gorgeous [[Yamato Nadeshiko]] classmate whom he's known for some time, however her family are the ones who turned him into the [[Anti-Villain]] [[Villain Protagonist|Protagonist]], Ratman. On the other hand is Rio Kizaki, who better fits the "cute and spunky" type, but is also the wealthy and [[tomboy]]ish daughter of the Hero Association's president, and the two of them bond over their shared dream of being heroes.

* ''[[Nana to Kaoru]]'' tries its best to steer clear of this. Kaoru is the Archie, but A) Tachi, the supposed Betty, is the [[Secret Keeper]] of Nana & Kaoru's [[Bound and Gagged|'breathers']] and acts more like a little sister, continually trying to push them together; B) Kaoru has ZERO interest in Tachi; C) the titular couple are afflicted with [[Oblivious to Love|oblivious to each other's love]] on a Charlton-Heston-epic scale and D) the whole thing is skewed by the fact both get tied up by him.

* ''[[Gantz]]'' has calm, reserved normal Tae as Betty to Reika's Veronica, {{spoiler|which it averts by Reika's cloning of Kei.}}

* ''[[Beelzebub]]'' has Aoi to Hilda, but their places on the scale are debatable.