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*** An entity without a fixed self whose current personality was formed to suit Ciel's needs.
*** A lonely demon with the emotional understanding of a toddler.
*** Just kind of a dork.
*** A decent guy who happens to need to predate on humans to live, but that's just life and all morals are relative anyway.
*** [[Draco in Leather Pants|Every girl's ideal boyfriend]].
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** Some people consider Ciel to be asexual, but other fans think he is gay or bisexual.
*** There is more evidence for him being straight. For example, we see him blushing in presence of girls.
** Opinions about Elizabeth range from a selfless saint who gives her all to make other people happy to a future domestic abuser with the Borderline Personality Disorder who doesn't see servants as people and has sadistic tendencies.
* [[Anti-Shipping Goggles]]: Some people are convinced that Sebastian has no emotions at all, feels nothing for Ciel, and only sees him as food. This is despite how Sebastian having a wide range of emotions is firmly established by numerous scenes. Some of those scenes show indications of warm feelings for Ciel - if not love, then at least fondness and admiration.
** Many people mentally shut out the evidence for Edward being in romantic love with his sister Elizabeth.
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* [[Evil Is Cool]]: Sebastian. And Ciel, on some level.
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Again, Sebastian.
* [[Fan Disservice]]: One particular scene comes to mind: Sebastian and Ciel bathing together. Naked. With skins touching. {{spoiler|With severe chemical burns all over their bodies and Ciel on the brink of death. And then Ciel in his already-fragile state gets his PTSD [[Trigger|triggered]] so hard that the flashback sends him into [[Angst Coma]].}} That's not so romantic.
* [[Fan Dumb]]: Found on [[Tumblr]] in particular in vast amounts.
* [[Fan Nickname]]: The series itself is referred to as "Kuroshit" by detractors. (And by sarcastic fans.)
* [[I Knew It!]]: Bound to happen when there is so much speculation going around.
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: Ciel can be seen as this, since he doesn't mind killing or hurting anyone who gets in the way of his plans, but at the same time, he is portrayed very sympathetically, usually because of his [[Dark and Troubled Past|horrible past]].
* [[Like You Would Really Do It]]: {{spoiler|As if a poker to the chest and a shovel to the head would actually kill Sebastian. Guess what, it didn't.}}
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* [[Memetic Outfit]]: Many [[Cosplay|cosplays]] of Ciel are of that pink dress.
* [[Memetic Sex God]]: Sure, everyone loves to get touchy-feely on Ciel, who has had his own [[Stalker with a Crush]] since he was seven years old, but if you are in-universe and don't have a thing for Sebastian, you don't have a pulse.
* [[Moe]]: A lot of characters, in both male and female varieties.
* [[Moral Guardians]]: A section of the fandom cares very much about policing other fans' fanfiction and fanart and even interpretations of the manga.
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** Shipping Goggles also make fans of a pairing not see things, such as Elizabeth being unstable, violent, and controlling behind her [[Kawaiiko]] exterior, which aren't ingredients for a good marriage with Ciel.
* [[Shipping Wars]]: Sebastian/Ciel is attacked from both sides by fans of Ciel/Elizabeth and Sebastian/Grell. It gets vicious.
* [[Stoic Woobie]]: Ciel. Overlaps with [[Jerkass Woobie]]. Despite the things he has been put through, he usually doesn't complain about them and always tries to keep moving forward. Though, on
** Snake.
* [[Squick]]: Baron Kelvin is made of Squick. A small minority of the fans also find that the [[Fan Service]] about Ciel crosses into Squick territory.
* [[Toy Ship]]: Ciel/Elizabeth is a
** Ciel/Sieglinde. Sieglinde has expressed romantic interest in Ciel in the canon too, though Ciel to date hasn't reciprocated.
▲* [[Toy Ship]]: Ciel/Elizabeth is a bordeline ''[[Canon]]'' one, considering the fact that they're [[Perfectly Arranged Marriage|engaged]]. It also seems to be gaining more credibility among fans lately thanks to some [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap|much needed]] [[Character Development]].
* [[Unequal Pairing]]: Sebastian/Ciel can be seen (and is derided) as this. However, both Sebastian and Ciel have the upper hand in different ways. Sebastian has vastly more raw power than Ciel, but Ciel can command Sebastian's absolute obedience. Sebastian is much older than Ciel, but Ciel has more common sense than Sebastian. Sebastian can do just about everything by himself, but Ciel can command true loyalty. In the manga Sebastian and Ciel are constantly jostling for the upper hand.
* [[Values Dissonance]]: Sebastian/Ciel has a ''very'' vocal hatedom in the English-speaking fandom while the Japanese fandom has no problems with the pairing. The Japanese fandom also doesn't obsess over whether or not Grell is trans.
* [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?]]: The series has [[Seinen]] written all over it, but is published in a Shonen magazine. To elaborate, it includes violence and gore, murder, child abuse, sex, pedophilia, and [[Innocent Innuendo|questionable dialogue]].
** Some fans have said that they don't think the manga is suitable for anyone under 18.
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** Almost all of the circus performers.
** Even Lizzie to some.
* [[WTH Costuming Department]]: Sebastian. In his demon form, he wears tight leather pants and sharp-pointed stiletto heels
** A few covers have shown Ciel in ballet boots, confusing many fans. In general Ciel can wear some very unusual and even fetishy things on chapter covers. One particular outfit got referred to the "sexy turkey".
** Then there is Sebastian's Elvis jacket in the [[Costume Test Montage]]. It's clear why the outfit wasn't chosen, but not at all clear how come the outfit even ''existed''.
* [[Yaoi Fangirl]]: Seemingly the most common type of fan, despite the series not being [[Yaoi]].
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