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*** [[Genius Bonus]]: Male lions don't hunt. Lionesses do all the work, and then the males bull in and take their fill (giving us a literal grounding in the phrase "lion's share"); the females and cubs can take from what's left when the males are done.

** Pig apparently really likes bacon. He was kicked out of the Pig Fraternity for enjoying BLTs, which gave the first ''Pearls'' collection its title.

* In ''[[Garfield]]'', Garfield has eaten (or tried to) [http://garfield.nfshost.com/2004/07/08/ birds], [http://garfield.nfshost.com/1997/05/23/ fish], and [http://garfield.nfshost.com/1988/01/31/ flowers] that are often shown to be as intelligent as he is even after holding conversations with them, and also has no compunctions whatsoever about squashing talking spiders (and their [http://garfield.nfshost.com/1986/08/24/ grieving families].) For the most part, Garfield will eat anything but mice, established within the first week of the strip's creation. ("Show me a good mouser, and I'll show you a cat with bad breath.") He also abhors spinach (especially cooked spinach) and raisins (even in cookies). A [http://garfield.nfshost.com/1994/10/30/ certain strip] has Garfield facing the ghosts of all the animals he's eaten, including what looks like a ''cow'' or a ''horse''. (It's probably meant to be a cow [beef lasagna], given its split hooves, although if he's ever actually eaten cat food, a horse might be possible as well.) Meanwhile, the protagonists of ''U.S. Acres'' are herbivores, with predatory animals appearing only as villains, unless you count Booker's fruitless pursuit of a worm which sometimes appears more intelligent than he is—although, in "The Worm Turns", Sheldon the ambulatory egg mentions that he's planning to have ''quiche'' for dinner...

* In ''[[Garfield]]'', Garfield has eaten (or tried to) [https://web.archive.org/web/20111011145653/http://garfield.nfshost.com/2004/07/08/ birds], [https://web.archive.org/web/20111011145454/http://garfield.nfshost.com/1997/05/23/ fish], and [https://web.archive.org/web/20111011145810/http://garfield.nfshost.com/1988/01/31/ flowers] that are often shown to be as intelligent as he is even after holding conversations with them, and also has no compunctions whatsoever about squashing talking spiders (and their [https://web.archive.org/web/20111011145835/http://garfield.nfshost.com/1986/08/24/ grieving families].) For the most part, Garfield will eat anything but mice, established within the first week of the strip's creation. ("Show me a good mouser, and I'll show you a cat with bad breath.") He also abhors spinach (especially cooked spinach) and raisins (even in cookies). A [https://web.archive.org/web/20111011145430/http://garfield.nfshost.com/1994/10/30/ certain strip] has Garfield facing the ghosts of all the animals he's eaten, including what looks like a ''cow'' or a ''horse''. (It's probably meant to be a cow [beef lasagna], given its split hooves, although if he's ever actually eaten cat food, a horse might be possible as well.) Meanwhile, the protagonists of ''U.S. Acres'' are herbivores, with predatory animals appearing only as villains, unless you count Booker's fruitless pursuit of a worm which sometimes appears more intelligent than he is—although, in "The Worm Turns", Sheldon the ambulatory egg mentions that he's planning to have ''quiche'' for dinner...

** The front cover of Vol. 4 has Garfield about to have two eggs sunny-side up (truly a meal of epic proportions), when he sees that Booker, wings crossed and glaring at him, is standing there with Sheldon. The ''back'' cover has him running with his plate as Sheldon chases him, Booker riding on top and brandishing a fork...

* Wagner from the Finnish newspaper comic ''Viivi & Wagner'' is an anthropomorphic pig - whose favorite foods include bacon and ham.

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** While Franklin is never actually eaten (it's ''Animal Crossing'', after all,) the implications of the whole thing make this grade-A, prime-cut [[Nightmare Fuel]].

** The rest of the year, there are several different foods available for the villagers to discuss in their mix-'n'-match randomized dialogue, and the game goes to ''very'' careful extents to make sure to specify that every food that could possibly contain meat is either a "vegetarian" version or made with [[No Cartoon Fish|fish]]. Examples include salmon ravioli and vegetarian meatloaf. At least, in ''Wild World'' and ''City Folk''. The first game wasn't so careful. Giant cow talking about hamburgers, anyone?

*** The eating-fish-is-okay thing is referenced in [http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/?p=1738 This] [[Brawl in the Family]] strip.

*** The eating-fish-is-okay thing is referenced in [https://web.archive.org/web/20101229160302/http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/?p=1738 This] [[Brawl in the Family]] strip.

** In ''City Folk'', at least, the villagers seem to genuinely want to welcome him; they'll say something that ''sounds'' bad, such as 'I can't wait for dinner with our guest', then follow it up with 'I even researched his culture's food and made some so he'll feel more at home'. Mayor Tortimer is really the only one being truly creepy about it.

*** [[Accidnetal Nightmare Fuel|Where they can come get him?]]

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* In ''[[Freefall]]'', the only furry is a she-wolf, and she [http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff100/fv00023.htm has] [http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff200/fv00183.htm been] [http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff300/fv00228.htm shown] to eat other animals. She [http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff200/fv00193.htm justifies] this by explaining nature's natural food cycle, but lately she seems to just [http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1100/fv01081.htm go to restaurants] instead.

** It's probably easier to go to restaurants than deal with Helix's apparently Disney-fied view of how nature works.

* In ''[http://fesandernst.com P.S.I.]'', the only non-sapient land animals are insects. This has [http://fesandernst.com/Guest_DebtOn01.htm obvious] implications on the food supply in the comic's universe.

* In ''[http://fesandernst.com P.S.I.]'', the only non-sapient land animals are insects. This has [https://web.archive.org/web/20080907181935/http://fesandernst.com/Guest_DebtOn01.htm obvious] implications on the food supply in the comic's universe.

* ''[http://suburbanjungle.com The Suburban Jungle]'' follows the 'fact of life' approach. Except in specific situations, such as the workplace, or a specifically 'No Predation Allowed' bar, it's basically A-OK to eat each other. Although you might expect a girl to get cross if it turns out you accidentally [http://suburbanjungleclassic.com/?p=49 ate her date].

* The ''Shivae'' has this as an important, if not main issue: most characters are non-anthropomorphic animals, the protagonists are predators, and all carnivores seen so far are sapient (and mostly sympathetic). Herbivores seem to be split between sapient and non-sapient within each species, and sapient herbivores show little respect or concern for non-sapients, even those part of their own herd, and allow predators to hunt the latter. It is considered taboo to kill another sapient animal, but since they can all communicate with each other, it's easily avoided. Then the [[Petting Zoo People|very anthropomorphic]] colonists show up, and for some reason can't communicate with the non-anthropomorphic cast members, who they consider to be all dumb beasts...oh, and did I mention their society [[Bambi|is advanced enough to have guns]]?

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* Played [http://www.housepetscomic.com/2008/10/03/stop-the-revolution-i-want-to-get-off/ very straight] in ''[[Housepets]]''.

* In ''[[Sluggy Freelance]]'' Trog tries very hard to stop Aylee (an alien like from, you know, ''[[Alien]]'') from eating humans. The cast at one point have an intervention for her in which she eats John a man who went through cannibals anonymous. A strip later Torg enrolls her in the program. She eventually stops eating humans just in time for Riff and Torg to get trapped in the 1999 annual cannibal convention. Torg realizes trying to change Aylee's nature is pointless and unleashes Aylee on the cannibals this fails but they all survive due to a damn heroes moment. ironically a few arcs later Aylee transforms into a dragon that eats potatoes nullifying the whole process. As far as we know she hasn't eaten humans since.

* [http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/?p=1738 This] ''[[Brawl in the Family]]'' strip puts an anthropomorphic fish into [[Animal Crossing]]. He is not impressed.

* [https://web.archive.org/web/20101229160302/http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/?p=1738 This] ''[[Brawl in the Family]]'' strip puts an anthropomorphic fish into [[Animal Crossing]]. He is not impressed.

* ''[[Panthera]]'' gives us [http://www.pantheracomic.com/?p=1620 this gem] about a freshly killed deer.

* ''[[Daddy Long Legs (webcomic)|Daddy Long Legs]]'' takes the last approach, with predation being unpleasant but still a part of life. Things can still get really awkward from time to time, though- mostly in that Harvestman's favorite food are aphids, same insect as Crane's nanny.

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* Chicken farmers have to check the hen houses every day because if a egg sits too long and doesn't hatch, the hen will eat it, and like the taste so much she will eat every egg she lays from then on in.

* The "carnivores are mean" subtrope is so damn pervasive, wildlife centers and nature magazines are often deluged with calls and letters from hysterical bird lovers (really?) asking what can be done about [http://www.cvm.umn.edu/raptor/education/faqs/hawkspreying/home.html the mean hawk eating all the poor little house sparrows]. Seriously. For the record, backyard hawks and cats (don't forget that [[Cats Are Mean]] too) mostly go after Eurasian House Sparrows anyway. House Sparrows, for those not in the know, are an invasive species in the Americas who have wreaked havoc on native species. Fortunately they're so used to living around human houses for safety that they're almost too easy for predators to hunt.

** Speaking of backyard birds, [http://www.audubonmagazine.org/journal/journal0809.html this article], recently published in ''Audubon'' magazine, theorizes that ''one painting'' brought the Blue Jay of all animals under the Carnivores Are Mean banner. This isn't anything new for [[Crows and Ravens|Corvids]] (poor crows; they're like the hyenas of the avian world), but it's weird that the one member of the family generally agreed to be [[Beauty Equals Goodness|the prettiest]] is under this big tent too.

** Speaking of backyard birds, [https://web.archive.org/web/20110910113040/http://www.audubonmagazine.org/journal/journal0809.html this article], recently published in ''Audubon'' magazine, theorizes that ''one painting'' brought the Blue Jay of all animals under the Carnivores Are Mean banner. This isn't anything new for [[Crows and Ravens|Corvids]] (poor crows; they're like the hyenas of the avian world), but it's weird that the one member of the family generally agreed to be [[Beauty Equals Goodness|the prettiest]] is under this big tent too.

* Paleoartist Mark Witton has brought this subject up for discussion in his online portfolio/blog. The discussion, which has been rather lively so far, accompanies his admittedly surprising illustration that depicts [http://www.flickr.com/photos/markwitton/522293984 carnivorous scavenging behavior in ceratopsians]. Even though he [[Shown Their Work|explains the thinking behind the piece]], several posters can't quite wrap their heads around the idea of a meat-eating Styracosaur—which just underlines his point.

* [http://failblog.org/2009/03/26/meat-fail/ This editorial], found (naturally) on the Failblog.

* Have you ever heard of David Pearce? The Abolitionist Project? This [http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2009/08/predatory_animals_are_bad.php Tetrapod Zoology] post will explain all. Or try to.

* Have you ever heard of David Pearce? The Abolitionist Project? This [https://web.archive.org/web/20120507181710/http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2009/08/predatory_animals_are_bad.php Tetrapod Zoology] post will explain all. Or try to.

* [[wikipedia:Bovine spongiform encephalopathy|"Mad Cow disease"]] became the issue it was, in the UK, thanks to the ground up remains of other animals being included in the feed for other cows, without the treatment that European feed got that destroyed the responsible prions.

** For that matter, some types of animal feeds have warnings about not feeding to other animals because of certain by-products.