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** Some argue that Geoff Johns' changes to Raven have stained her character reputation irreparably. These include having her reborn as a teenage girl (after she spent time in limbo as a golden [[Spirit Advisor]]) who only occasionally retained her original speech patterns and personality (while the rest of the time she had a snarky and broody attitude like her animated incarnation), hooking up with Beast Boy, and saddling her back with the position of being the [[Damsel in Distress]] that the team must rescue. Later writers like Judd Winick only made these changes even more jarring.
** Some argue that Geoff Johns' changes to Raven have stained her character reputation irreparably. These include having her reborn as a teenage girl (after she spent time in limbo as a golden [[Spirit Advisor]]) who only occasionally retained her original speech patterns and personality (while the rest of the time she had a snarky and broody attitude like her animated incarnation), hooking up with Beast Boy, and saddling her back with the position of being the [[Damsel in Distress]] that the team must rescue. Later writers like Judd Winick only made these changes even more jarring.
*** On the opposite end, Beast Boy fans have become upset that after having received development in his own mini-series, he started on a gradual decay back to being the team goofball to the point where even his own best friend and younger team members were depicted as talking down to him and considering him to be a joke. The same Beast Boy who became ''team leader'' of the Titans and was considered capable (before executive meddling hit, combined with Geoff Johns deciding the team had "too many adults").
*** On the opposite end, Beast Boy fans have become upset that after having received development in his own mini-series, he started on a gradual decay back to being the team goofball to the point where even his own best friend and younger team members were depicted as talking down to him and considering him to be a joke. The same Beast Boy who became ''team leader'' of the Titans and was considered capable (before executive meddling hit, combined with Geoff Johns deciding the team had "too many adults").
** Then there's ''Red Hood and the Outlaws'', see a long rant in two parts [https://theragingfanboy.wordpress.com/2011/09/30/deconstructing-red-hood-and-the-outlaws-part-1-red-hood/ here].
* [[Judd Winick]]'s run on ''[[Green Arrow]]'' and ''Green Arrow/ Black Canary'' derailed quite a few characters.
* [[Judd Winick]]'s run on ''[[Green Arrow]]'' and ''Green Arrow/ Black Canary'' derailed quite a few characters.
** Despite having moved on from a [[Dark and Troubled Past|troubled past]] which included alcoholism, rampant womanizing and generally irresponsible behavior and evolving into a loving, responsible father and boyfriend under [[Kevin Smith]]'s pen, Winick wrote Oliver Queen back into the clueless, womanizing, limousine-liberal stereotype many comic fans wrongly saw him as.
** Despite having moved on from a [[Dark and Troubled Past|troubled past]] which included alcoholism, rampant womanizing and generally irresponsible behavior and evolving into a loving, responsible father and boyfriend under [[Kevin Smith]]'s pen, Winick wrote Oliver Queen back into the clueless, womanizing, limousine-liberal stereotype many comic fans wrongly saw him as.