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{{quote|'''Baron Vengeous:''' "...only a heathen would bring a gun to a swordfight."
'''Skulduggery:''' "And only a moron would bring a sword to a gun fight."|'''[[Skulduggery Pleasant]]: Playing With Fire''' }}
|'''[[Skulduggery Pleasant]]: Playing With Fire''' }}
 
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== ''[[Discworld]]'' ==
* Sam Vimes of [[Terry Pratchett]]'s ''[[Discworld]]'' is a great believer in dirty fighting. His fighting style consists of using everything you have to hit anything you can. He calls it "artful". About the only time he's ever been delicate about the subject was when he was mentioning Nobby's "favorite kick" in front of ''Lady'' Sybil Ramkin.
** His most iconic move is probably the "Vimes Elbow."
** Vimes' pragmatism can be pretty well summed up by this quote:
{{quote|'''Vimes:'''''"And for close-up fighting, as your senior sergeant [[Could Say It, But...|I explicitly forbid you]] to investigate the range of coshes, blackjacks, and brass knuckles sold by Mrs. Goodbody at No. 8 Easy Street at a range of prices and sizes to suit all pockets, and should any of you approach me privately I absolutely will not demonstrate a variety of specialist blows suitable for these useful yet tricky instruments." ''}}
** At one point he and an Assassins Guild member end up in a standoff with knives being pointed at portions of each other's anatomy that are generally considered unsporting to target. The assassin's comment that Vimes is "no gentleman" is both given and taken as a compliment.
** Also from ''[[Discworld]]'': ''"Cohen had heard of fighting fair, and had long ago decided he wanted no part of it."''
** There's also one of the Silver Horde squaring off against a ninja in ''[[Discworld/Interesting Times|Interesting Times]]''. After pretending he's getting ready to break a block of wood barehanded and making sure the ninja is watching his hands, he [[Groin Attack|kicks him in the treasury]] and whacks him over the head with said block. Should've watched the leg, indeed.
*** Later on in the same book, one of the local lords shows off his Samurai by having him throw a handkerchief into the air, and slicing it cleanly in half. Cohen then throws ''his'' handkerchief into the air...and then chops off the Samurai's head as he's watching the handkerchief.
** It's implied in the City Watch novels, that in the street fights of Anhk-Morpork being able to use your hands is already considered posh.
** Vimes' fighting style is contrasted with that of the Marquis of Fantailler, a send-up of the Marquis de Queensbury who "wrote a set of rules for what he termed 'the noble art of fisticuffs,' which mostly consisted of a list of places where people weren't allowed to hit him. Many people were impressed with his work and later stood with noble chest out-thrust and fists balled in a spirit of manly aggression against people who hadn't read the Marquis's book but did know how to knock people senseless with a chair." A surprising number of those people's last words were something along the lines of "Stuff the bloody Marquis of Fantail-"
*** Vimes' opinion on Fantallier seems to have softened slightly by the time of ''[[Discworld/Snuff|Snuff]]'', at least to the extent where he's prepared to offer the use of the rules when challenged to a duel. When they're refused, he brings this trope out ''in spades''. "Should've accepted Fantallier", indeed.
** Carrot, however, seems to be able to make said fighting fair work, insofar as it can be considered fighting fair for Carrot to be getting involved to begin with. In Carrot's case fighting fair might actually be considered pragmatic, what with [[Theory of Narrative Causality]] and all. Fighting fair, and generally ''playing'' fair, seem to be Carrot's form of [[Refuge in Audacity]]. Plus, who needs dirty tricks when they can cold-cock a troll with a right cross?
*** But ''[[Discworld/Men At Arms|Men Atat Arms]]'' shows that if Carrot needs you dead, there will be a foot of cold steel through you before you realize there is even to be a fight. Sometimes a sword ''is'' enough to win a gun (or gonne) fight.
** Vimes' antagonist in ''[[Discworld/Night Watch (Discworld)|Night Watch]]'' is Carcer, whom Vimes describes as a "bottle covey". The guy who'll take every possible way to kill you, just because he likes it, and takes advantage of the system whenever he can. [[Foil|In some ways Carcer is "evil Vimes"]], which is hinted at several times in the book.
** Although he's not a viewpoint character, it's very clear that General Tacticus was a big proponent of this style of warfare; his method of command tended to not only conquer lots of territory but do it with most of his men still alive at the end, which more traditional military historians felt was somehow cheating. Vimes is, rather unsurprisingly, a fan.
*** It should be noted that the regular style of warfare from Tacticus's time till the time the novels take place, was basically to inflict as many "heroic casualties" on each other's army as possible. Which means to allow as many of your men to be killed by the enemy as possible. If you have more men at the end than the enemy it was a nice bonus.
*** Tacticus described one of the good strategies for assaulting an near-impenetrable fortress with a good supply of water and food available to the defenders: "See (that the occupants) stay there". He considers the other good strategy to be "Endeavor to be the ones inside."
** Rincewind will openly admit he's a coward and a rat--they ''survive'', after all--but when cornered, his strategy is to hit his opponent with everything he can before they can realize that he doesn't know how to fight.
*** HeIn ''[[Sourcery]]'', he also ended a battle with an all-powerful reality-warping [[Discworld/Sourcery|Sourcerer]]sourcerer not with magic, but with a half-brick inna sock. Granted, it was a highly ineffective weapon, but it ''did'' end the battle.
*** {{spoiler|The titular sourcerer has to be defeated and Rincewind is the only one capable of following the sourcerer through a portal. The sourcerer is just a kid that has faced lots of wizards by following orders from his father, cointained in his staff, but he only does it because they are dangerous. Cue Rincewind, inept wizzard and incapable of hurting a fly (not for lack of trying, mind you), attempting to attack him with half a brick in a sock. After asking if it's an magic sock or if this is a trick, the boy is so convinced that Rincewind is completely harmless that he refuses to follow his father's orders for the first time in his life. Technically, fighting dirty '''did''' save Rincewind's life, just not as somebody would expect it to work.}}
 
*== ''[[The Dresden Files]]'' ==
** Kincaid is a [[Psycho for Hire]] mercenary and all-around Combat Pragmatist. He actually gets mopey when Harry tells him he can't just level the vampires' hideout with explosives because it would kill the hostages. For a short time anyway, before he goes back to gruff and grumbling about how poor the plan is.
** Harry Dresden himself. He doesn't like it, but he WILL do what it takes. A brief, and by no means comprehensive list of examples:
*** Up against a deranged Fae Queen, Harry, the wizard, {{spoiler|instead of slinging his baddest spells, decides to [[Zerg Rush]] her instead. Using pixies. Armed with steel boxcutters. After which he physically pins her until she dies of a combo of blood loss and cold iron poisoning.}}
*** When fighting fallen angel host Nicodemus, {{spoiler|he realizes the only thing Nick is vulnerable to is the artifact which grants him invulnerability. So Harry strangles Nicodemus with it (it's conveniently in the shape of a noose).}}
*** Harry has specifically ordered his superpowered guard dog Mouse to kill more than one enemy.
*** Dead Beat's climax involves him creating {{spoiler|a[[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|Zombie]] [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|T-Rex]] to fight zombies.}}
*** After seeing Kincaid using incendiary shotgun rounds on vampires, he specifically starts researching the fun stuff you can do with custom shotgun ammo. Knowledge which he later puts to good use.
*** His standard procedure for dealing with ambushes: Run away. Fast. Anything knowingly attacking a wizard has probably come prepared. To this end, he seriously took up gymming and martial arts to improve his stamina and melee skills.
*** When taking on Cowl at the end of ''Dead Beat'', Harry doesn't even ''try'' to fight him fairly, because he knows Cowl is a badass who'd smash him in a straight confrontation. {{spoiler|Instead, he waits until Cowl is at the most delicately explosive point of the [[A God Am I]] spell, and then brains him over the head with his staff. Kaboom.}}
*** In "Day Off," when Darth Wannabe and company attempt to challenge him to a magical duel, Harry just pulls a gun on them. Incidentally, he keeps upgrading said sidearm through the series.
**** This is also a special case, since killing a mortal with magic is strictly against the rules laid down by the White Council of wizards, and doing so means you can expect a visit from a surly enforcer with an enchanted sword. Harry killed his spellcasting mentor<ref>in self defense</ref>, which made his life hell for decades; thus, whenever he engages a mortal foe, he ''has'' to use conventional means.
*** Harry has also found out, and demonstrated, that [[Groin Attack|Groin Attacks]] work just as well on trolls and grendelkin as they do on humans. The fact that he did it with cold iron on the former--resulting in said troll's bits ''bursting into flame''--let him hold off a whole bunch of them who wisely did not try to press their luck after seeing what happened to the first one.
*** In Ghost Story Harry interrupts the [[Big Bad]] in the middle of a villainous monologue with a blast of fire. When she voices her outrage, he does it again. When she still doesn't get the idea he hits her with a ''third'' blast. {{spoiler|Turns out she's a bit of a pragmatist herself, luring Harry into wasting precious memories casting spells, and nearly reducing him to a mindless wraith. She can afford to take the hits better than he can afford to throw them.}}
** Ebenezer McCoy {{spoiler|[[Colony Drop|dropped a satellite]] on a difficult to kill vampire}}.
** In the first book, he gains the advantage against {{spoiler|Victor Sells}} with {{spoiler|a ''cleaning spell''.}}
** Wizards aren't the only ones who can be utterly pragmatic. The Billy Goats Gruff, while being fairytale...um, fairies, have absolutely no compunctions against using such mortal inventions as submachineguns.
** Nicodemus is a [[Master Swordsman]] with 2000 years of experience, but he has no compunctions against using his shadows to control people or pulling guns in a swordfight.
 
== Other works ==
* In [[Tom Clancy]]'s stories, the good guys subscribe to this line of thinking, particularly the military, who are paraphrased at one point as believing ''If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan it very well.''
* Caine/Hari from ''[[The Acts of Caine]]'' is widely considered the best infighter alive, even after being rendered partially paraplegic. He does not fight fair, ever, and it allows him to win fights where he really should have had no chance. Illustration: right after [[Darkest Hour|his lowest point]] in ''Blade of Tyshalle'', he escapes a dungeon cell by luring a guard in and provoking him to attack, apparently giving up the element of surprise. To recap, this is a naked and malnourished Caine, covered in his own filth, chained to the wall with his legs currently not working. The guard on the other hand is armored in chainmail, upright and well fed, and has the [[Counter Attack|"chance"]] to draw his club and attack Caine first. After a few minutes the situation changes to that of a naked and unconscious guard in Caine's shackles while a now armed and armored Caine crawls up the dungeon steps.
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{{quote|"We're soldiers. Soldiers shoot in the back, lay traps and ambushes, lie to the enemy, and outnumber the other bastard every chance they get. Your kind of murder only works among civilians. And you were too stupid, too ''insane,'' to realize that."}}
* Staying with [[Orson Scott Card]] for a moment, in his novelisation of ''The Abyss'' the SEAL team leader, Coffey, is mentioned as having taken down a neighbourhood bully eight years his senior not in a straight-up street fight: rather, by going, lying in wait for the guy, and caving his head in with a cinderblock when the guy's back was turned. He then describes how Coffey tidies up, goes home, and never seeks any recognition of his act. On the other hand, Coffey is characterised as somewhere between a [[Heroic Sociopath]] and a [[Complete Monster]].
* Locke Lamora of the [[Gentleman Bastard Sequence]](s) is most definitely one of these.
* Sam Vimes of [[Terry Pratchett]]'s ''[[Discworld]]'' is a great believer in dirty fighting. His fighting style consists of using everything you have to hit anything you can. He calls it "artful". About the only time he's ever been delicate about the subject was when he was mentioning Nobby's "favorite kick" in front of ''Lady'' Sybil Ramkin.
** His most iconic move is probably the "Vimes Elbow."
** Vimes' pragmatism can be pretty well summed up by this quote:
{{quote|'''Vimes:'''''"And for close-up fighting, as your senior sergeant [[Could Say It, But...|I explicitly forbid you]] to investigate the range of coshes, blackjacks, and brass knuckles sold by Mrs. Goodbody at No. 8 Easy Street at a range of prices and sizes to suit all pockets, and should any of you approach me privately I absolutely will not demonstrate a variety of specialist blows suitable for these useful yet tricky instruments." ''}}
** At one point he and an Assassins Guild member end up in a standoff with knives being pointed at portions of each other's anatomy that are generally considered unsporting to target. The assassin's comment that Vimes is "no gentleman" is both given and taken as a compliment.
** Also from ''[[Discworld]]'': ''"Cohen had heard of fighting fair, and had long ago decided he wanted no part of it."''
** There's also one of the Silver Horde squaring off against a ninja in ''[[Discworld/Interesting Times|Interesting Times]]''. After pretending he's getting ready to break a block of wood barehanded and making sure the ninja is watching his hands, he [[Groin Attack|kicks him in the treasury]] and whacks him over the head with said block. Should've watched the leg, indeed.
*** Later on in the same book, one of the local lords shows off his Samurai by having him throw a handkerchief into the air, and slicing it cleanly in half. Cohen then throws ''his'' handkerchief into the air...and then chops off the Samurai's head as he's watching the handkerchief.
** It's implied in the City Watch novels, that in the street fights of Anhk-Morpork being able to use your hands is already considered posh.
** Vimes' fighting style is contrasted with that of the Marquis of Fantailler, a send-up of the Marquis de Queensbury who "wrote a set of rules for what he termed 'the noble art of fisticuffs,' which mostly consisted of a list of places where people weren't allowed to hit him. Many people were impressed with his work and later stood with noble chest out-thrust and fists balled in a spirit of manly aggression against people who hadn't read the Marquis's book but did know how to knock people senseless with a chair." A surprising number of those people's last words were something along the lines of "Stuff the bloody Marquis of Fantail-"
*** Vimes' opinion on Fantallier seems to have softened slightly by the time of ''[[Discworld/Snuff|Snuff]]'', at least to the extent where he's prepared to offer the use of the rules when challenged to a duel. When they're refused, he brings this trope out ''in spades''. "Should've accepted Fantallier", indeed.
** Carrot, however, seems to be able to make said fighting fair work, insofar as it can be considered fighting fair for Carrot to be getting involved to begin with. In Carrot's case fighting fair might actually be considered pragmatic, what with [[Theory of Narrative Causality]] and all. Fighting fair, and generally ''playing'' fair, seem to be Carrot's form of [[Refuge in Audacity]]. Plus, who needs dirty tricks when they can cold-cock a troll with a right cross?
*** But ''[[Discworld/Men At Arms|Men At Arms]]'' shows that if Carrot needs you dead, there will be a foot of cold steel through you before you realize there is even to be a fight. Sometimes a sword ''is'' enough to win a gun (or gonne) fight.
** Vimes' antagonist in ''[[Discworld/Night Watch|Night Watch]]'' is Carcer, whom Vimes describes as a "bottle covey". The guy who'll take every possible way to kill you, just because he likes it, and takes advantage of the system whenever he can. [[Foil|In some ways Carcer is "evil Vimes"]], which is hinted at several times in the book.
** Although he's not a viewpoint character, it's very clear that General Tacticus was a big proponent of this style of warfare; his method of command tended to not only conquer lots of territory but do it with most of his men still alive at the end, which more traditional military historians felt was somehow cheating. Vimes is, rather unsurprisingly, a fan.
*** It should be noted that the regular style of warfare from Tacticus's time till the time the novels take place, was basically to inflict as many "heroic casualties" on each other's army as possible. Which means to allow as many of your men to be killed by the enemy as possible. If you have more men at the end than the enemy it was a nice bonus.
*** Tacticus described one of the good strategies for assaulting an near-impenetrable fortress with a good supply of water and food available to the defenders: "See (that the occupants) stay there". He considers the other good strategy to be "Endeavor to be the ones inside."
** Rincewind will openly admit he's a coward and a rat--they ''survive'', after all--but when cornered, his strategy is to hit his opponent with everything he can before they can realize that he doesn't know how to fight.
*** He also ended a battle with an all-powerful reality-warping [[Discworld/Sourcery|Sourcerer]] not with magic, but with a half-brick inna sock. Granted, it was a highly ineffective weapon, but it ''did'' end the battle.
*** {{spoiler|The titular sourcerer has to be defeated and Rincewind is the only one capable of following the sourcerer through a portal. The sourcerer is just a kid that has faced lots of wizards by following orders from his father, cointained in his staff, but he only does it because they are dangerous. Cue Rincewind, inept wizzard and incapable of hurting a fly (not for lack of trying, mind you), attempting to attack him with half a brick in a sock. After asking if it's an magic sock or if this is a trick, the boy is so convinced that Rincewind is completely harmless that he refuses to follow his father's orders for the first time in his life. Technically, fighting dirty '''did''' save Rincewind's life, just not as somebody would expect it to work.}}
* Simon Illyan, Miles's 50-something boss in the ''[[Vorkosigan Saga]]'', is a fairly uptight but [[Reasonable Authority Figure]]. He doesn't actually get his hands dirty, he has underlings for that. When his artificial memory chip is sabotaged, and his underlings have to get him into medical treatment, though, he fights back...and he fights ''dirty''. No one knew, because no one had ever seen him fight before.
** In ''Ethan of Athos'', Miles' protege, Elli Quinn, has to rescue a hostage, with inadequate forces and without collateral damage.
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* Corwin in the ''[[Chronicles of Amber]]'' is big on this. For example, in his climactic sword duel with a powerhouse foreshadowed a book earlier, Corwin runs away, rounds a corner, throws his cloak into the other man's face as he follows, then stabs the guy while he's blind.
** "Not the Winter Olympics" indeed.
** When Corwin's older brother Benedict, who is the single greatest swordsman in the universe, is tricked into coming after Corwin with intent to kill Corwin's reactions are thus. First, try talking it out. That having failed, try running for his life. ''That'' having failed... decoy Benedict into walking over a booby trap that pins his feet in place, then walk behind his immobilized target and beat him unconscious from an angle he can't possibly defend against.
** His son Merlin later mocks the guy's ghost for fighting fair after defeating him again by {{spoiler|accidentally throwing a sword at him.}}
** This is essentially Cowin's biggest personality trait. He takes over a swords-and-sorcery kingdom with a small force {{spoiler|carrying assault rifles.}} At one point he wants his son to follow him; his son declines, and so Corwin {{spoiler|attacks him with a sword, feints around him, punches him unconscious and carries him away.}}
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* ''[[Black Company]]'', a mercenary force in the series of the same name by [[Glen Cook]], make a living, and survive in the face of enormous odds, by fighting dirty and using every resource available to them in order to make themselves look like the baddest motherfuckers around. When it works, things look good for the Company. When it doesn't, that's when the fun begins.
* Smilla Jaspersen from ''[[Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow|Miss Smillas Feeling for Snow]]'' by Peter Hoeg has a history of winning against people much bigger and stronger than her. She stabs a man in the neck with a screwdriver when he tries to kidnap her, and topples a shelf onto a person she thinks is following her in the filing room of an office building. She also forces her stepmother to listen to her demands by pinching her in the crotch and bending her pinky finger all the way back. Apparently she's been this way all her life. She beat up a racist school bully much larger than her by finding out where he lived and ambushing him early in the morning, sending him to the hospital. When her father, a noted surgeon, tried to grab her and drag her home after she ran away at the age of twelve, she cut him with a scalpel she stole from the hospital she escaped from. When she is trapped on a ship with the vaguely psychopathic character Jakkelsen, she [[Improvised Weapon|makes a weapon from a towel and a ball bearing]], and injures him badly enough that he needs medical attention. However, she is always described as a [[Waif Fu|petite and delicate woman]]. She is the narrator, by the way.
* In the ''[[Warhammer 4000040,000]]'' ''[[Horus Heresy]]'' series:
** In [[Dan Abnett]]'s ''Horus Rising'', Loken defeats Lucius in a practice sword fight by [[Talk to the Fist|punching him]]; Lucius's still smarting over it in [[Graham McNeill]]'s ''Fulgrim''.
** In [[Ben Counter]]'s ''Galaxy In Flames'', Tarvitz, who watched, commented that he had learned from it, to do whatever was needed to win. {{spoiler|So, Lucius being a [[Turncoat]] who had betrayed them to Horus and having gotten into a figh with Tarvitz, Tarvitz has [[The Cavalry|the Emperor's Children coming to make a flanking attack]] shoot at Lucius and end their fight.}}
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** While Alpharius did indeed preach pragmatism, he rarely practiced it. Alpharius wanted to prove himself to his elder brothers, so his tactics were usually incredibly convoluted and elaborate purely so he could show how great his men were when they pulled it off - in one case, he held off attacking a poorly defended planet so the defenders could bolster the defenses to a huge level. He won, and told his fellow primarchs that "it would be too easy" to just attack at once. A better example would be Guilliman, who favoured efficiency (he concentrated on the boring stuff like logistics and supply, knowing it would help more towards victory than cool weapons etc) or Night Haunter, who was a completely ruthless,[[Ax Crazy|psychotic]] [[Utopia Justifies the Means|vigilante]], who led a Legion of rapists and murderers and nuked his own homeworld.
* Don "Mad Dog" Slade from [[David Drake]]'s ''Cross the Stars'' observes that you should only hit someone with your bare hands when you're naked and your feet are nailed to the floor.
** Another Drake character, [[Boisterous Bruiser]] Yerby Bannock of ''Patriots'', recommends the same policy, adding the proviso that there's no furniture, etc., that you could swing or throw.
* Similar Adviceadvice is passed along to the protagonist of ''[[Star Dance]]'' by a Space Fleet Captain: "My Daddy also told me 'Only hit the soft parts with your hand. Hit the hard parts with a utensil.' "
* If [[Repairman Jack]] can't beat it, he'll shoot it. Heck, he'll probably shoot it even if he ''can'' beat it - he'd rather err on the side of caution. Now, if shooting doesn't work (which is not unlikely, given [[Cosmic Horror|some]] [[Eldritch Abomination|things]] he bumps into) things will get ''really'' funny.
* ''[[A Song of Ice and Fire]]'':
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** Feyd took this approach to the Gladiatorial arena as well. {{spoiler|When Thufir's ''undrugged'' gladiator gave Feyd and the crowd the match of a lifetime, it turned out that Feyd had put the ceremonial poison for his bout on the ''wrong blade'', allowing him to show his cunning in front of the entire population of Harko.}}
* Lazarus Long in ''[[Time Enough for Love]]'' is one of these. Generally all [[Robert A. Heinlein]]'s "good" characters are.
* ''[[The Dresden Files]]''
** Kincaid is a [[Psycho for Hire]] mercenary and all-around Combat Pragmatist. He actually gets mopey when Harry tells him he can't just level the vampires' hideout with explosives because it would kill the hostages. For a short time anyway, before he goes back to gruff and grumbling about how poor the plan is.
** Harry Dresden himself. He doesn't like it, but he WILL do what it takes. A brief, and by no means comprehensive list of examples:
*** Up against a deranged Fae Queen, Harry, the wizard, {{spoiler|instead of slinging his baddest spells, decides to [[Zerg Rush]] her instead. Using pixies. Armed with steel boxcutters. After which he physically pins her until she dies of a combo of blood loss and cold iron poisoning.}}
*** When fighting fallen angel host Nicodemus, {{spoiler|he realizes the only thing Nick is vulnerable to is the artifact which grants him invulnerability. So Harry strangles Nicodemus with it (it's conveniently in the shape of a noose).}}
*** Harry has specifically ordered his superpowered guard dog Mouse to kill more than one enemy.
*** Dead Beat's climax involves him creating {{spoiler|a[[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|Zombie]] [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|T-Rex]] to fight zombies.}}
*** After seeing Kincaid using incendiary shotgun rounds on vampires, he specifically starts researching the fun stuff you can do with custom shotgun ammo. Knowledge which he later puts to good use.
*** His standard procedure for dealing with ambushes: Run away. Fast. Anything knowingly attacking a wizard has probably come prepared. To this end, he seriously took up gymming and martial arts to improve his stamina and melee skills.
*** When taking on Cowl at the end of ''Dead Beat'', Harry doesn't even ''try'' to fight him fairly, because he knows Cowl is a badass who'd smash him in a straight confrontation. {{spoiler|Instead, he waits until Cowl is at the most delicately explosive point of the [[A God Am I]] spell, and then brains him over the head with his staff. Kaboom.}}
*** In "Day Off," when Darth Wannabe and company attempt to challenge him to a magical duel, Harry just pulls a gun on them. Incidentally, he keeps upgrading said sidearm through the series.
**** This is also a special case, since killing a mortal with magic is strictly against the rules laid down by the White Council of wizards, and doing so means you can expect a visit from a surly enforcer with an enchanted sword. Harry killed his spellcasting mentor<ref>in self defense</ref>, which made his life hell for decades; thus, whenever he engages a mortal foe, he ''has'' to use conventional means.
*** Harry has also found out, and demonstrated, that [[Groin Attack|Groin Attacks]] work just as well on trolls and grendelkin as they do on humans. The fact that he did it with cold iron on the former--resulting in said troll's bits ''bursting into flame''--let him hold off a whole bunch of them who wisely did not try to press their luck after seeing what happened to the first one.
*** In Ghost Story Harry interrupts the [[Big Bad]] in the middle of a villainous monologue with a blast of fire. When she voices her outrage, he does it again. When she still doesn't get the idea he hits her with a ''third'' blast. {{spoiler|Turns out she's a bit of a pragmatist herself, luring Harry into wasting precious memories casting spells, and nearly reducing him to a mindless wraith. She can afford to take the hits better than he can afford to throw them.}}
** Ebenezer McCoy {{spoiler|[[Colony Drop|dropped a satellite]] on a difficult to kill vampire}}.
** In the first book, he gains the advantage against {{spoiler|Victor Sells}} with {{spoiler|a ''cleaning spell''.}}
** Wizards aren't the only ones who can be utterly pragmatic. The Billy Goats Gruff, while being fairytale...um, fairies, have absolutely no compunctions against using such mortal inventions as submachineguns.
** Nicodemus is a [[Master Swordsman]] with 2000 years of experience, but he has no compunctions against using his shadows to control people or pulling guns in a swordfight.
* In the ''[[Sword of Truth]]'' series, Kahlan learns about how the Mud People once slaughtered a vastly larger tribe simply by killing them everywhere except on the battlefields. In their homes, in their privies, in their beds, everywhere. Later, when confronting an army of D'Haran rebels who have sided with the Imperial Order, she puts these lessons to work. To start with, she poisons a cart of liquor and leaves it to be found by the enemy officers. Later, she leads a night raid into the enemy camp...[[Memetic Mutation|naked, like the Celts]], and butchers several of the officers remaining. This trend continues as she has her army made particular emphasis on killing physicians and other non-combatants, as killing one of them is as good as killing dozens of other soldiers who could no longer be healed by them. By the end, she has led an army of recruits to victory against a battle-hardened veteran force ten times its size.
** Later, during the fighting retreat as the Imperial Order [[Million Mook March|in its millions]] finally invades the New World, Kahlan increases her pragmatism by an order of magnitude. After the D'Haran army is handily defeated in a stand-up fight, she takes charge and spends the better part of a year using hit-and-run guerilla tactics to grind down the Order's army by hundreds of thousands. In her most impressive feat, she she uses a barrel of powdered glass and scatters it in front of an advancing enemy force, killing thousands from lung infections and causing tens of thousands to go blind.
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* Present in ''[[The Pyrates]]'' in the form of Colonel Thomas Blood, skilled swordsman and master shin-kicker. His dirty fighting is enough to let him keep up with classical master (and deliberate [[Canon Sue]]) Long Ben Avery, despite being slower, weaker, and far less fit. Also averted by pirate swordmaster Black Bilbo:
{{quote|Avery, on t'other hand, is a genius, as we know, and younger and fitter -- but then again, Bilbo has the experience, and knows lots of tricks -- but curiously enough, black scoundrel though he is, the thought of using them [[Worthy Opponent|never crosses his mind]].}}
** This is because Bilbo's finding the battle with Avery so much '''fun'''.
* ''[[Don Quixote]]'': Alonso Quixano admires famous Knight Bernardo del Carpio because he defeated Roldan (in an alternative legend to the Song of Roland) because, instead of attacking Roldan the Enchanted with a sword, Bernardo just strangled him. Part I, Chapter 1:
{{quote|''"He thought more of [[Weird Al Effect|Bernardo del Carpio]] because at [[The Song of Roland|Roncesvalles ]] he slew [[Nigh Invulnerable|Roland]] in spite of [[A Wizard Did It|enchantments]], availing himself of the artifice of Hercules when he strangled Antaeus the son of Terra in his arms. "''}}
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{{quote|'''Baron Vengeous:''' "...only a heathen would bring a gun to a swordfight."
'''Skulduggery:'' "And only a moron would bring a sword to a gun fight." }}
* In ''[[The Spellsong Cycle]]'', Ashtaar Ashtarr notes that Secca is one of the most dangerous people in Erde precisely because she is this, borne of her hatred of fighting and willingness to do anything to end a fight as expeditiously as possible. Her mentor Anna did that, too.
* In the [[Dale Brown]] novel ''Executive Intent'', the Chinese are this in their attack on Mogadishu. Some guy firing on their troops from a building? Most forces would try to storm the building and get into risky room clearing. Screw that. They level the whole damn building. Doesn't matter if you're a militiaman/pirate/gangster or really just a civilian - you make the mistake of gathering in a group that could be remotely construed as a regrouping squad, they'll mow you all down and let Chairman Mao sort out the dead.
* In the ''Young Bond'' series, there is a character called "Red" Kelly who teaches James Bond (yes the very same only, well, younger) that fights don't have rules. He says that " No such thing as fighting dirty, really, Jimmy. There's just fighting to win. useUse whatever you like, you can forget about rules..."
* "[http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/sidearmintro.php#varnis The Swordsmen of Varnis]" is a very short story, more or less a [[John Carter of Mars]] parody. It ends when an unnamed member of the title group, which is rapidly being killed off by the hero and heroine, decides to be a Combat Pragmatist after all.
{{Quote|“Aw, the Hell with it!” he grunted, and {{spoiler|unclipping a proton gun from his belt he blasted Lehni-tal-Loanis and her Warrior Lord out of existence with a searing energy-beam}}.}}
 
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