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* The more recent{{when}} ''[[Harry Potter (film)|Harry Potter]]'' films have had this problem in an unusual way. Each individual movie has been more or less comprehensible without reading the books. However, when put into a movie continuity, things ''don't make sense''.
** As an example, the plot and tension of ''Order of the Phoenix'' hinges on the fact that the only person who would admit to Voldemort's return is Harry Potter. The problem is that if you saw ''Goblet of Fire'' you know that isn't true. Because the Ministry of Magic ''clearly'' has someone in custody who could tell them (or they could magic it out of his head): Barty Crouch Jr, who was last seen alive and going to be taken into custody at the end of the film. Of course, the book of ''Goblet of Fire'' had him [[A Fate Worse Than Death|kinda-killed off]]. This was not done in the film, and thus you need to read the books in order for the continuous work of films to make sense.
** An earlier example would be the complete cutting out of Peeves, hence the cutting of the broken Vanishing Cabinet, which became an important [[Chekhov's Gun]] in HBP''Half-Blood Prince''.
** Not only back story is cut, but some events are treated very badly by the filmmakers. In ''GoFGoblet of Fire'', the corpse of Barty Crouch Sr. is removed from the woods... only for him and his death to never be mentioned again. (Not even when [[Oedipus Complex|the assassin]] reveals himself.)
** Speaking of the Crouches, the film changes Junior's back story from "believed to be dead" to "still imprisoned in Azkaban". Which may be very confusing for moviegoers who are now expected to believe he could have escaped with nobody noticing while the plot previous film revolved around another escape that was discovered instantly.
** Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs. The movie never says who they are. Then, Harry calls Pettigrew "Wormtail" in the ''Goblet of Fire'' movie without explanation. And Sirius is called "Padfoot" in ''[[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film)|Order of the Phoenix]]''.
*** Plus, it also means that no explanation at all is given for how Lupin instantly recognizes the Marauder's Map for what it is.
** Nobody believes Voldemort is back in the ''[[Order of the Phoenix]]'' movie, because they say Harry's words can't be trusted. Never explained why, because they took out all the instances where Rita Skeeter kept bringing out articles that made Harry sound insane and untrustworthy in the previous movie.
** In ''Order Of The Phoenix'' they left out the entire point of Snape's flashback during Occlumeny, which was {{spoiler|Lily - specifically him calling her mudblood. That was the entire point of it being Snape's Worse Memory, him ostracizing her.}} It was the massive turning point of his character up until then and they cut it out! They were apparently forced to cut it out, but still.
*** Though it's not entirely obvious this was the worst bit about his memory {{spoiler|until book seven, where we realise he loved her and alienated her with that comment.}}
** Dobby and Kreacher are MIA in ''Half-Blood Prince''. Apparently Kreacher was to be excised from the ''[[Order of the Phoenix]]'' movie as well, until JK stepped in and said "You might need him later."
** Because the potion book subplot was so shortened in the sixth film, the reveal that {{spoiler|Snape is the Half-Blood Prince}} makes very little sense. It's clear that this is why the book let Harry be so good at Potions, but even that is minor.
** They also left out what may be the ''single most important'' minor detail in ''Half-Blood Prince.'' Specifically, {{spoiler|the old tiara}} Harry puts on the stone bust of an ugly wizard in the room of requirement. This {{spoiler|turns out to be the Diadem of Ravenclaw, and Voldemort's next-to-last proper Horcrux.}} It's not present at all in the movie, so Harry won't know where to look for the 6th {{spoiler|Horcrux.}} It's possible they might try a workaround with Ginny since she hides the potions book in the movie, but seeing as she's not in on Voldemort's secret in the first place, it's gonna be difficult.
*** No more difficult than leading Harry to the conclusion that {{spoiler|the Diadem of Ravenclaw is a Horcrux in the first place}} will be, considering that they left out the bits where he and Dumbledore {{spoiler|make a list of possible Horcruxes and glean the clues from Voldemort's past than enable them to predict his actions.}}
*** In the end, they just had Harry {{spoiler|see the Diadem on the vision from Voldemort, and ask the Gray Lady where it is.}} Did you really think [[Adaptation Decay|they were going to give Ginny some plot]]?
*** There is a deleted scene onfrom DH''[[Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1]]'' where Harry explains Ron and Hermione what Dumbledore thought the Horcruxes were. Even if it'd been kept in the movie, how Harry knew this would have still been unknown.
** This trope is actually ''[[Inverted Trope|inverted]]'' between ''Half-Blood Prince'' and ''Deathly Hallows - Part 1'' - a BLAM[[Non Sequitur Scene]] halfway through ''Half-Blood Prince'' that wasn't in the book involves the bad guys burning The Burrow (the Weasleys' House) to the ground. With no explanation at all, it reappears without a scratch in ''Deathly Hallows''.
** ''Deathly Hallows - Part One1'' does not waste ''one second'' bringing people up to speed on who the characters are or what they're doing. Movie critics have not let this pass without comment. It's a very similar case to the ''Matrix,'' mentioned below. It also relies heavily on a shard of a magical two-way mirror as a visual and plot device - despite the fact that said mirror has never appeared in the movies before.
*** Though it does do right by Bill Weasley, acknowledging that he and Harry have never met before in the films, and throwing in a reference to how he got his scars (a scene cut from the previous film).
*** All of this is mainly because they decided to make the last three films have the most consistent continuity. ''Deathly Hallows part- Part 1'' and ''2'', plus parts of HBP''Half-Blood Prince''', were ridiculously confusing for those who hadn't read the books in entirety. Mostly because they mention some events from the books that were not included in the films. So, if newcomers were to watch all of the movies in order, they would have almost no concept of what was going on by the end.
* The ''[[Star Trek]]'' movies (to a large extent) avoided this, save for ''[[Star Trek: First Contact]]'' (which assumed the viewer had some knowledge of the "Best Of Both Worlds" two-parter and ''[[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]]'' for Worf's location during the cube battle). Several other examples are peppered throughout the films:
** Data's emotion chip is an interesting example. ''[[Star Trek Generations]]'' and ''First Contact'' both have Data mulling over whether to use the chip or not. New viewers to these films won't understand much of what Data's talking about unless they've seen the earlier seasons of ''TNG'' (specifically the fourth- and fifth-season episodes regarding Data, Lore and Dr. Soong).