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[[File:Hawkmancontinuity.jpg|link=Hawkman|frame|Behold, the Hawk-Snarl!]]
[[File:Hawkmancontinuity.jpg|link=Hawkman|frame|Behold, the Hawk-Snarl!]]


{{quote|''"Thanagar's champion, [[Hawkman]] can [[Speaks Fluent Animal|talk to birds]]. He also can't talk to birds. Sometimes, he can't even speak normally at all! Even if he could talk normally, or to birds, there are no birds on Thanagar, because it does not exist. Hawkman was sent here to study Earthly police methods, because Thanagar's own methods suck!"''|'''[http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/19/ Kirk Kimball]''', of [http://www.dialbforblog.com/ Dial B for Blog]}}
{{quote|''"Thanagar's champion, [[Hawkman]] can [[Speaks Fluent Animal|talk to birds]]. He also can't talk to birds. Sometimes, he can't even speak normally at all! Even if he could talk normally, or to birds, there are no birds on Thanagar, because it does not exist. Hawkman was sent here to study Earthly police methods, because Thanagar's own methods suck!"''
|'''[http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/19/ Kirk Kimball]''', of [http://www.dialbforblog.com/ Dial B for Blog]}}


{{quote|Continuity gets harder and harder to maintain the more stuff you write. At some point you just need to chuck it all in and accept the fact that in your universe [[Napoleon Bonaparte]] was a video game programmer ''and'' an Egyptian Pharaoh.|David Morgan-Mar|[[Irregular Webcomic]] [http://irregularwebcomic.net/801.html #801]}}
{{quote|Continuity gets harder and harder to maintain the more stuff you write. At some point you just need to chuck it all in and accept the fact that in your universe [[Napoleon Bonaparte]] was a video game programmer ''and'' an Egyptian Pharaoh.
|David Morgan-Mar|[[Irregular Webcomic]] [http://irregularwebcomic.net/801.html #801]}}


A [[Shared Universe]] can become a very confusing place, and the longer they exist, the more confusing they can become. As new creators come on board and take over, continuity eventually gets tangled, convoluted, and increasingly difficult to pick through. Sometimes, it gets to the point that not even the fans who write [[The Other Wiki/Laconic|Wikipedia]] articles understand what is and isn't in [[Canon/Laconic|Canon]].
A [[Shared Universe]] can become a very confusing place, and the longer they exist, the more confusing they can become. As new creators come on board and take over, continuity eventually gets tangled, convoluted, and increasingly difficult to pick through. Sometimes, it gets to the point that not even the fans who write [[The Other Wiki/Laconic|Wikipedia]] articles understand what is and isn't in [[Canon/Laconic|Canon]].
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* The symbiotes from [[Spider-Man]]. First, the Venom suit was just an alien costume. Then it was retconned into being alive. Then, when the writers wanted to turn it into a villain, it was retconned that the suit made Spider-Man go insane and he had to get rid of it (originally, he was trying to destroy just because it was attatching itself to him, which is a bit harsh for a guy like Spidey). It was later shown the the suits fed off strong hosts as a sort of [[Social Darwinist]]. Then it was revealed to feed off negative emotions such as hate and anger. Then they were shown to live in the Negative Zone... no wait, there was a separate planet of them. Oh, and Toxin proved that not all of them are born evil after all. Oh, and Carnage has had about three symbiotes get destroyed but no one ever remembers those stories.
* The symbiotes from [[Spider-Man]]. First, the Venom suit was just an alien costume. Then it was retconned into being alive. Then, when the writers wanted to turn it into a villain, it was retconned that the suit made Spider-Man go insane and he had to get rid of it (originally, he was trying to destroy just because it was attatching itself to him, which is a bit harsh for a guy like Spidey). It was later shown the the suits fed off strong hosts as a sort of [[Social Darwinist]]. Then it was revealed to feed off negative emotions such as hate and anger. Then they were shown to live in the Negative Zone... no wait, there was a separate planet of them. Oh, and Toxin proved that not all of them are born evil after all. Oh, and Carnage has had about three symbiotes get destroyed but no one ever remembers those stories.
* As the Batman franchise was one of the few properties not completely rebooted during DC's ''[[New 52]]'' initiative, numerous continuity problems have arisen over the bits of Bat-history that were altered. A particular source of contention is how [[Batgirl (2000 comic book)|Cassandra Cain]] and [[Batgirl 2009|Stephanie Brown]] could fit into the new, condensed five year timeline given some of the statements made in the new Batgirl title. Though it has been confirmed that Cain will appear in ''[[Grant Morrisons Batman|Batman Inc.]]'' at some point, how her history could be reconciled has not yet been mentioned.
* As the Batman franchise was one of the few properties not completely rebooted during DC's ''[[New 52]]'' initiative, numerous continuity problems have arisen over the bits of Bat-history that were altered. A particular source of contention is how [[Batgirl (2000 comic book)|Cassandra Cain]] and [[Batgirl 2009|Stephanie Brown]] could fit into the new, condensed five year timeline given some of the statements made in the new Batgirl title. Though it has been confirmed that Cain will appear in ''[[Grant Morrisons Batman|Batman Inc.]]'' at some point, how her history could be reconciled has not yet been mentioned.

== Fan Works ==
* Averted (so far as of July 2020) with [[The Teraverse]] (and its super-series ''[[A Brane of Extraordinary Women]]''). Despite having a dozen or more writers continually adding in new sources and elements to this [[Mega Crossover]], there is sufficient coordination to maintain a consistent history, sometimes down to the day, and implement changes and expansions across multiple story lines.


== Film ==
== Film ==
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** Possibly lampshaded in "The Zazzy Substitution" (Season 4, Ep 3) where Sheldon reacts to his breakup with Amy by getting a cat ... then several more. 25 in all.
** Possibly lampshaded in "The Zazzy Substitution" (Season 4, Ep 3) where Sheldon reacts to his breakup with Amy by getting a cat ... then several more. 25 in all.
** Though people can develop (and lose) allergies as they get older, or pass through different developmentalstages, so it is possible that Sheldon had a temporary cat allergy.
** Though people can develop (and lose) allergies as they get older, or pass through different developmentalstages, so it is possible that Sheldon had a temporary cat allergy.
* Don't try and figure out ''[[MASH|M* A* S* H]]'''s [[Frozen in Time|timeline]]. Many have tried and it just gave them a headache:
* Don't try and figure out ''[[M*A*S*H (television)|M*A*S*H]]''{{'}}s [[Frozen in Time|timeline]]. Many have tried and it just gave them a headache:
** To get into the show's worst offenses, when Colonel Potter takes over the camp, it's explicitly stated to be September 19, 1952, but a later episode opened on New Year's Eve, 1950 with Potter and Winchester there. And [[The Korean War]] started in late June 1950, so apparently the show's first ''five seasons'' with Colonel Blake and Frank took place over the course of ''barely more than five months''. And early episodes with Blake and Frank tended to give the year as 1951 or 1952. And the September 19, 1952 date doesn't work very well even on its own since it requires that ''eight seasons'' take place over the course of ''ten months''.
** To get into the show's worst offenses, when Colonel Potter takes over the camp, it's explicitly stated to be September 19, 1952, but a later episode opened on New Year's Eve, 1950 with Potter and Winchester there. And [[The Korean War]] started in late June 1950, so apparently the show's first ''five seasons'' with Colonel Blake and Frank took place over the course of ''barely more than five months''. And early episodes with Blake and Frank tended to give the year as 1951 or 1952. And the September 19, 1952 date doesn't work very well even on its own since it requires that ''eight seasons'' take place over the course of ''ten months''.
** Not only that, but they had a Christmas episode in each of the seasons and a few episodes that would take up several months to a whole year.
** Not only that, but they had a Christmas episode in each of the seasons and a few episodes that would take up several months to a whole year.