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The problem with [[God]] is that His given definition is one of [[Story-Breaker Power|omnipo]][[The Omnipotent|tence]] and [[God Is Good|benevolence]]. This can make it tricky to depict Heaven, especially if you want to add some [[Rage Against the Heavens|grey]] in there; or the notion that [[The Legions of Hell]] are actually a threat. So we go down in Cosmic Denominators; though not quite to the [[The Lowest Cosmic Denominator|lowest.]]

The [[Council of Angels]] plot gets around this by stating that [[Heaven]] is run by angels instead, with varying powers running between the [[Physical God|Physical Gods]] and the [[Powers That Be]]; not counting the really young ones. Often it's explained that in the last two millennia, [[Have You Seen My God?|God decided to retire someplace sunny,]] or work on some secret project, [[Divine Delegation|letting humans and angels work things out themselves instead of directly controlling them]]. The angels tend to be somewhat upset about this. Or maybe there is no personal God at all, and the angels follow some more vague ideal of goodness, themselves at least supposedly representing its highest embodiment.

Oh, even with God around, don't expect them to clear up whether Judaism, Christianity or Islam is right; often they're not sure themselves. If they do know, there seems to be an unspoken rule against telling anyone. It's also not uncommon for different angels to have different viewpoints on the nature of "good", often associated with human viewpoints.

They may even be a [[Celestial Bureaucracy]].

In brighter settings, [[Fluffy Cloud Heaven]] is a diversion for newly arrived souls of humans. There's often a "Heaven of Heavens" where they go eventually; where presumably God really is. Hopefully this is where good beings who are [[Deader Than Dead|"soul-killed"]] go as well. Nobody ever talks about what this is like, ever; and it's extremely rare for someone to come back from it.

In subversive settings, [[God Is Evil]] and doesn't want to deal with the masses personally, and the angels either collaborate or are secretly rebelling. Or maybe God is good but [[Have You Seen My God?|non-interfering]], but the angels took their free will the totally wrong direction, and became [[Knight Templar|Knights Templar]].

See also [[God Is Evil]], [[Have You Seen My God?]], [[Crystal Dragon Jesus]], [[The Lowest Cosmic Denominator]], and their usual leaders, [[Celestial Paragons and Archangels]]. The opposite number of [[Demon Lords and Archdevils]].
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==  Anime and Manga  ==

* This is the entire concept of the manga / anime ''[[Angel Sanctuary]]'', and it's a [[Crapsack World|Crapsack Cosmology]] out there...
* In the [[CLAMP]] manga ''[[Wish]]'', the various Angels are running around terrified that God is going to punish the various characters and themselves for stuff they've done. Surprising for a Japanese depiction, when God does make his opinions known, he's a [[God Is Good|decent guy]].

==  Card Games  ==

* ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'' has never had TRUE gods per se, but it has plenty of angels. Both the settings Bant and Serra's Realm were ruled by a [[Council of Angels]].
** The player's position is that of a planeswalker, which may be a human ascended to world-shattering power or some kind of inhuman force of purpose (such as whatever drives Phyrexia). So in a sense, the players are competing gods. Just crappy squabbling ones.

==  Comic Books  ==

* The vampire comic book ''Crimson'' had a Council Of Angels show up in one issue. [[God]] made it too, but didn't say anything. And only Lucifer recognized him, anyway.
* ''[[Lucifer (comics)|Lucifer]]'' featured a few small subplots about angels arguing about whether they should attack Lucifer and whether or not it was God's will. God was notably quiet on the matter, although he did turn up a couple of times in various guises afterward.
* A Council Of Angels turned up in ''[[Preacher (Comic Book)]]'', although their [[God]]'s absence from Heaven was actually part of the plot -- he'd run away because he feared the protagonist's power.
** God eventually showed up in ''[[Spawn]]'' as the being in charge of Heaven. He was of equal power to Satan (they were portrayed as brothers), and he only had power over Heaven and things Heaven owned. Then the "Mother of Creation" was introduced, as the being who made God and Satan and everything. And the Mother of Creation was Jesus. So, basically, God wasn't really God. The MoC is God, God is basically really just the "Head Angel in Charge". "God" does serve as a sort of one-man [[Council of Angels]] here, since he's in charge of Heaven directly without the apparent authority of the MoC.
*** ''Spawn'' was closer to a Gnostic viewpoint. God was the god of the Old Testament who acted supreme, but was not. MOC created the universe and a race of nigh-omnipotent, immortal beings and gave each a world to form as they wished. God and Satan both got Earth and refused to share acting like spoiled three-year olds, but were equal in power and could not kill each other. God created heaven, Satan created hell and they used angels, demons and humans to fight a proxy war. MOC grew disgusted with their fighting and removed them from their thrones to try and teach them to behave. This did not work. So God was god in the sense of the creator and ruler of heaven who also created the angels. But he was not the supreme being. However, he and Satan were both so far above anything and everything else save their mother they could be considered gods. None of their other brothers were ever shown and with power equal to their Spawn easily trashed their combined armies.
* In the DCU cosmology, there are the four King-Angels (each head of the four hosts of Heaven: Eagle, Human, Bull, and Lion). Asmodel (the [[Big Bad]] of one of the JLA [[Story Arc|story arcs]]) is King-Angel of the Bull Host.

==  Film  ==

* A form of this is used in the movie [[Wristcutters: A Love Story|Wristcutters]] with the People in Charge.
* Seems to be the premise of ''[[Constantine]]'', the film version of ''[[Hellblazer]]'' comics.
* Likewise, the premise of ''[[Dogma]]''.

==  Literature  ==

* In [[Piers Anthony]]'s ''[[Incarnations of Immortality]]'' series, the angels (primarily Gabriel) are running things because God is off contemplating his perfection in the "Heaven of Heavens". Unfortunately, while they mean well, they aren't up to the task.
* It's not explicitly stated in ''[[Good Omens]]'' that God isn't exactly running things, but Beelzebub and the Metatron certainly seem to be in charge of the Heaven vs. Hell thing, and aren't actually 100% sure what they're supposed to be doing, exactly. Crowley and Aziraphale then exploit this like [[Incredibly Lame Pun|hell]].
* This trope is used by no less than [[C. S. Lewis]] in his climax to the [[Space Trilogy]], ''That Hideous Strength''. The Oyeresu, "angels" in control of and personifying each of the other planets, have been forbidden to interfere with Earth, which is under the control of Satan, as [[God]] is working out his own plans for it. However, the rules also say that they're supposed to contain [[Satan]]'s influence to within the lunar orbit... which means that under the right circumstances - like an invasion of Venus, for example - they can strike back...
* The Valar from ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' are angels who have been charged with being the Guardians of Arda, the physical world. They have many traits in common with both Christian angels and mythological gods (it's believed that [[J. R. R. Tolkien|JRR Tolkien]] set his cosmology up the way he did so that his devout Catholicism and love of mythology wouldn't trip over each other), and while they're all good (with [[God of Evil|one notable exception]]), none of them are perfect and all have made mistakes. The Valar are in turn served by lesser angels/demigods called the Maiar.
* Uriel turns up every now and then in the ''[[Dresden Files]]'', and the other 3 famous Archangels are mentioned. God exists, but prefers mysterious ways methods. Other angels have turned up since, particularly when Harry was dead in Ghost Story.

==  Live Action TV  ==

* ''[[Angel]]'' has the [[Powers That Be]], who are "powerful beings from a higher plane" who for sure aren't ''the'' God, but are quite powerful.
* The Council Of Elders from ''[[Charmed]]'' are [[The Lowest Cosmic Denominator]] of this.
* On ''[[Supernatural (TV series)|Supernatural]]'', only four angels have seen God; and of those four, one is Lucifer, and another is on permanent vacation masquerading as {{spoiler|the Trickster}}. The rest of the angelic host are getting their orders through the other two, and have to take it on faith that He even exists.
** In the Season 4 finale, Zachariah, one of the higher-up angels (or at least higher up than Castiel, Uriel, and Anna, all of whom are angelic foot soldiers), tells Dean that {{spoiler|"God has left the building."}}
*** As of the season 5 finale:  {{spoiler|the [[Celestial Bureaucracy]] is in anarchy with the loss of Michael, allowing Castiel to go back and bring things to order. Also, Chuck was God's literal [[Author Avatar]].}} In season six, this has escalated into a full-on civil war between angels, with more than a little spillover onto Earth.
* The [[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]-featured short "Once Upon A Honeymoon" has an apparently literal example, showing a celestial boardroom (complete with desk and PHONES) on Cloud 7.

==  Tabletop Games  ==

* ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'' (prior to 4th ed, which changed a lot around) had not one, but three councils ruling the three races of celestials:
** The Celestial Hebdomad for the [[Lawful Good]] archons. These seven, one for each of the Seven Heavens of Celestia, most closely resemble the traditional Christian concept of archangels.
** Talisid and the Five Companions, paragons of the [[Neutral Good]] guardinals.
** The Court of Stars, leaders of the [[Chaotic Good]] eladrins ([[Name's the Same]] not to be confused with 4th edition eladrin, which are a PC race and can be of any alignment). They're more like fairy lords than angels, but embody [[Chaotic Good]] all the same.
* ''[[In Nomine]]'' depicts Heaven this way. Nobody in Heaven has actually seen [[God]] since the Middle Ages (although He is known to be in one of the higher, inaccessible levels of Heaven), and the Seraphim Council is running things as best they can in the meanwhile.
** At the same time this is mildly subverted, in that Yves, one of the archangels on the Council, occasionally acts as a vessel for direct communication by God -- and may actually be ''God in disguise.'' (The fact that his illustration bears a striking resemblance to [[George Burns]] in ''[[Oh, God!]]'' only adds to the potential confusion.)
** Another theory is that Eli, Archangel of Creation, is God in disguise. [[Epileptic Trees|There's a lot of theories.]]
* In the [[Old World of Darkness]] game ''[[Demon: The Fallen]]'', God ''couldn't'' run things himself, because the Infinite touching the Finite would have disastrous results. Thus he created the angels to run the universe. The drawback to this was that they had a lot of time to think things over without divine supervision, eventually resulting in the Fall.
* This is the situation with the Primordial Autochthon in ''[[Exalted]]''; while he sleeps, his subsouls, the Divine Ministers, oversee his world-body. Trouble is, while the Ministers may all be aspects of Autochthon, they don't actually ''agree''...
** The Elemental Dragons serve the same purpose for Gaia sometimes, with most of her being out in the Wyld, but are both a lot less fractious and a lot less likely to actually DO anything.

==  Theater  ==

* The seven Continental Principalities from ''[[Angels in America]]'': America, Africanii, Europa, Asiatica, Australia, Oceania, and Antarctica.
** The prophet {{spoiler|Prior}} even [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|tells them that if God ever does come back to his rightful place, they should "sue the bastard"]].

==  Webcomics  ==

* [[The Gods of Arr-Kelaan]] eventually revealed one of these.
* In ''[[Misfile]]'', heaven is a corporation of angels, with all the expected inefficiencies and [[Obstructive Bureaucrat|Obstructive Bureaucrats]]. God exists but seems to use a [[Have You Seen My God?|hands-off management style]], as evidenced by the fact that He by definition is aware of the misfile (unlike Rumisiel's [[Pointy-Haired Boss|direct superiors]]) and hasn't done anything about it.

==  Web Original  ==

* As a slight variation, the atheist [[YouTube]] contributor [[Non Stamp Collector]] often portrays a [[Council of Angels]] as futilely trying to convince God ''not'' [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfjkl-3SNE to sow vengeance, suffering and ignorance].

==  Video Games  ==

* The setting of Sanctuary in which the ''[[Diablo]]'' series takes place primarily concerns a war between demons from the Burning Hells and angels from the High Heavens. The demons are led by the three Prime Evils and the four Lesser Evils, and in the final book of "The Sin War" trilogy, a council of five angels referred to as the Angiris Council decide the fate of the world after the main conflict is over. The angels, by the way, are doing a [[Crapsack World|really lousy job]], but then they're kind of jerks anyway, the main exception being Tyrael, the archangel who cast the deciding vote for humanity to continue to exist.
* Celestia from ''[[Disgaea Hour of Darkness]]'' game has the angels (and in one of the [[Multiple Endings]], the [[Noble Demon]]) praying to [[God]]; though he doesn't actually seem to live there. It's implied that there is a higher heaven (where Kurtis's dead family is); and "lower" hells. Although, to be technical, Celestia and the Netherworld aren't Heaven or Hell at all, but the Japanese concepts of Tenkai (literally "Heavenly world") and Makai (literally "Demon world") that don't have equivalents in modern Western thought.
** In the bonus chapter of the PSP remake, Volcanus tries to trick Flonne by calling out to her and ''claiming to be God''. Make of that what you will.
*** Considering [[Jerkass|what a dick]] Vulcanus is {{spoiler|- being burned by the anti-evil pendant and all -}} it's probably fair to say he's not a reputable source to be listening to in terms of what might or might not be God's intentions in the series.
* ''[[Tears to Tiara]]'' had the Twelve Angels/the White Angels. Then one died and {{spoiler|Arawn}} took his place. And then quit spectacularly. Because the rest of the angels are ''[[Colony Drop|assholes.]]'' God is probably dead. The angels aren't sure, but they're no longer looking for him, though they claim to carry on his work.
* In the [[Dept Heaven]] series, the council of the Seven Magi rule Asgard after Ragnarok causes the gods to (apparently) die out. It's implied that there will be some second advent of the gods someday, but the Magi are there to run things until that happens. Too bad [[Villain with Good Publicity|Hector]] is one of the Magi and his six fellows don't seem to be on to him.
** This is an interesting example because the Magi all seem to belong to the ''humanoid'' race living in Asgard--and they rule over the angels.
* In ''[[Shin Megami Tensei I]]'' and ''2'', there's a Council of selfish and evil angels who do most of the work on the Law side. [[God Is Evil|God is actually even worse]], just less willing to get personally involved unless he has to.
** ''[[Devil Survivor]]'' also has a small council of Angels working in the containment zone, but they're a little bit nicer than [[Shin Megami Tensei II]]'s Angels. That's because instead of the four main Seraphs (Michael, Uriel, Gabriel and Raphael) they're actually lower angels who ''aren't'' [[Knight Templar|Knight Templars]] at their worst: Remiel, Arael, Sariel and Izuna.
** {{spoiler|The Three Wise Men}} of ''[[Strange Journey]]'' take this role, {{spoiler|taking the opportunity provided by the Schwarzwelt to initiate their own plans for an eternal kingdom of the Lawful God. They "graciously" give the Protagonist and his crew access to the Demon Summoning Program so they do their dirty work}}.
* In the ''[[Fall From Heaven]]'' mod for ''[[Civilization]] IV'', the Creator of Erebus is nowhere in sight. Everything is run by angels, who call themselves gods. Most of the problems for the mortals are due to the interference of the angels.
* In ''[[The World Ends With You]]'', {{spoiler|the Angels are the ones who run the Reapers' Game from behind the scenes. They rank even higher than the ''Composer'', who is portrayed in-game as an allegory for God/Christ Himself.}}

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