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*** Though, according to ch78, not the entire story - {{spoiler|Kid, being a naive rich guy with symmetry on the brain, comes to find the pair known as the 'Demons of Brooklyn' to have them as his Weapons. They agree originally because they want his money, and only later come to realise they genuinely [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|like]] being with the boy.}} The Defeat's there, but the Friendship took time.
** Black Star tries a new job as Warrior Therapist when he faces Crona. It doesn't work, for if anything Crona's mental state is worse, and no amount of [[My Kung Fu Is Stronger Than Yours|Kung Fu Strength]] was enough to snap them out of it.
* It is wryly noted that this is how Nanoha of ''[[Lyrical Nanoha]]'' seems to make all of her friends, both [[Muggles]] and other mages. So much so that fans use the word "[[Befriending|befriend]]" as a synonym for "beat the crap out of". Before anyone is deemed worthy of her affection, (s)he first has to miraculously survive one of her [[Wave Motion Gun|massively aggressive onslaughts]], which Fate experiences first-hand.
** The current title of most befriended goes to Vivio, who took the title from Fate when {{spoiler|she received five [[Wave Motion Gun|Starlight Breakers]] ''at the same time'' and managed to remain conscious ''and'' stand on her own afterwards. A considerable feat since Fate couldn't even claim that when Nanoha struck her with one.}} Nanoha officially adopts Vivio as her daughter afterwards.
*** {{spoiler|In Fate's defense, Vivio was powered up well beyond her normal capacity by a Lost Logia at the time. Also, Fate was weakened by a Divine Buster just prior to being hit by the Starlight Breaker.}}
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* ''[[Flame of Recca]]'' is notorious for this, particularly during the [[Tournament Arc]]. People who were trying to kill Team Hokage just hours ago are suddenly eating snacks, playing videogames, and sharing stories with our heroes in their hotel room.
** And one of them creates a fan club for Fuko.
* This shows up as a recurring theme in ''[[Hayate
* In ''[[Harlem Beat]]'', almost all rival teams become this with Johnan team.
* Possibly subverted in ''[[Black Lagoon]]'': Chang and Balalaika became friends after their (intended) fight to the death turned out a draw.
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**** Well, the Rebels didn't exactly make a habit of being easy to find, especially to the Imperial Navy. Defections are somewhat more difficult when the enemy army is almost always in hiding.
* In the ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mirage]]'' comics, Casey Jones spent most of his first appearance having a knock-down-drag-out brawl with Raphael over Casey's overly violent street vigilantism. Raphael ultimately won, and Casey thereupon became one of the turtles' closest allies and Raphael's best friend. The [[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003|2003 cartoon]] had a similar sequence.
* A [[Wrong Genre Savvy]] character in ''[[Birds of Prey (comics)|Birds of Prey]]'' {{spoiler|that later becomes Misfit}} assumes this is the reason Oracle ends up attacking her when she breaks into the clocktower.
* This trope is how [[Popeye (comic strip)|Popeye]] befriends Toar, the immortal caveman. After Toar admits defeat ("You hit too hard, no fight crazy fool like you!"), Popeye offers him a friendship and Toar accepts.
* In a rare example of the villain winning, Meteor defeats [[Kamen America]], before realising that they're [[Not So Different]] after all.
== Fan Works ==
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* Salah-al-Din, a Muslim warlord of Kurdish ancestry, became something of a [[Proud Warrior Race Guy|"Noble Heathen"]] folk hero to Europeans following his conquest of Jerusalem, which inspired the Third Crusade. According to legend, Saladin made friends with Richard the Lionheart, although in real life they more or less fought each other to a standstill and never met in person.
** Most importantly was what Salah-al-Din (romanticized as Saladin) ''didn't'' do: when he conquered Jerusalem, he ''didn't slaughter the Christians or Jews living there.'' This is the absolute opposite of what European Crusaders had done when they first took Jerusalem - the Crusaders mercilessly slaughtered every Muslim and as many Jews as they could find. When Salah-al-Din took Jerusalem back, Europe was positive news of massacre would follow, but they never did. Salah-al-Din simply took the city back and nothing more. Hence, the legend of the Noble Heathen.
*** Also more of a case of the above, most European countries had other conflicts to worry about and was perfectly happy to ignore the Middle East as long as there was no compelling motivation to have another war. Massacres in Jerusalem or the destruction of Christian holy
* Britain is perhaps the best example. After fighting the [[American Revolutionary War]] and the [[War of 1812]] with the USA, relations between the two have been quite peaceful.
** Even before the War of 1812, [[Alexander Hamilton]] was a big advocate of this as a way to develop America's commercial economy, though his preferred policies didn't go over that well in the climate of Anglophobia immediately following the Revolutionary War.
* Also the reason why the Nepali Gurkhas fights in the British Army. In 1814, the British invaded the Kingdom of Nepal in order to expand the British Empire; however the Gurkhas fought the British so hard that the British only managed to conquer a third of Nepali land and even than it took them two years and large numbers of casualties to do so. The British were however impressed by the Gurkhas' fighting spirits and abilities so ever since 1816 they have recruited Gurkhas in their forces.
* [[Abraham Lincoln]] and the man who was previously the
** The trope was still played straight with white Northern and Southerners after the end of the Civil War, unlike some other places where a civil war leads to a [[Cycle of Revenge]]. Unfortunately it was done at the expense of America's black population, who lost a lot of the initial gains (there were several black members of Congress during Reconstruction, and many black members of southern state governments; after that it was effective disenfranchisement and Jim Crow in the south, and a refusal to recognize black contributions to the Union cause during the Civil War) they had made post-war.
* This is actually how Rome grew as fast as it did. Those it defeated in battle were treated well and made a part of the Roman Empire. This is actually why Carthage was unable to defeat Rome despite doing so well earlier on in the Punic wars; [[The Power of Friendship|Rome's allies wouldn't abandon it.]] Even though the Roman Empire [[What You Are in the Dark|wouldn't have lasted to do anything about it if they had]].
* In one of the most epic boxing matches ever, George Foreman was defeated by [[Muhammad Ali]] in 1974. The two became good friends
* [[Howard Stern]] often gained the praises or at least acceptance of many former radio and celebrity rivals once he established his ratings supremacy and celebrity credibility.
* The first encounter of Turkey and Australia was on opposing sides of a battlefield in [[World War I]]. The conflict was both fierce and gentlemanly - an odd combination which, despite the eventual defeat of the Australian forces, created a bond of mutual respect, admiration, and friendship between the nations which continues to this day.
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