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== Anime
* Thorfinn has no problem with his comrades raping women in ''[[Vinland Saga]]'', though he doesn't personally join in. Likewise the slave trade is treated like a normal business by most of the people shown. The story is, of course, about Vikings, whose culture allowed such things.
* Quite sympathetic protagonist Lawrence in ''[[Spice and Wolf]]'' considers slavery a necessary and productive trade, even after {{spoiler|nearly being forced into slavery to pay off a debt}}. Meanwhile his companion, Holo, who is a wolf in human form, sees nothing wrong with killing and eating humans if the situation demands it, but refrains from such actions during the series in order to not [[Squick]] Lawrence too much. A great deal of the show's entertainment consists of the two judging each other by their own set of values, and especially in Lawrence's case coming to wrong conclusions because of it.
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* The film ''[[Aubrey-Maturin|Master & Commander]]'' (and presumably all the books in the series) do this, giving us lines like the ship's first officer asking permission to bring live Galapagos tortoises on board as food stock.
** This is historically accurate, as well. The tortoises can apparently survive an insanely long time (at least a year, in some cases) without food or water, and thus were a welcomed source of fresh meat and therefore nutrients. They were stacked upside down and on top of each other so they didn't move.
*** [[
*** Take note, however that on several occasions in the novels, Stephen Maturin, ardent naturalist that he is, rebukes the men for going overboard in killing huge numbers of animals and birds.
** Also, prepubescent boys acting as officers, commanding men at least thrice their age by the simple benefit of coming from the upper class (which didn't mean that they didn't get harsh discipline, and difficult and dangerous tasks, themselves).
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* In [[Terry Pratchett]]'s ''[[Johnny Maxwell Trilogy]]'', when the gang travels back in time to [[World War II|the Blitz]], they are shocked to hear a nice old lady call the black Yo-less "Sambo", and cook up a story about him being an African prince.
** That said, Yo-less himself could be an example, as he was given the nickname because he was so definitively un-black in behavior and mannerisms that regular not-stereotypically-black black people were straight-up gangsta by comparison.
** [[Discworld]] is a fantasy world, but still contains some of this. Racism is mostly replaced with [[Fantastic Racism]] (dwarfs and trolls), but some old fashioned sexism is on display, despite female heroes being common. ''[[
*** The Watch books have some as well. Dwarfs typically don't advertise their genders (females are also bearded), and when one starts to do so it is treated as scandalous. Carrot, himself raised by dwarfs, also finds it a little disturbing, despite being a true [[Nice Guy]]. He also asumes that Angua was hired purely because she is a woman (She wasn't. It's because she's a {{spoiler|werewolf}}).
*** As the series has gone on, Pratchett has slowly worked more and more of [[Writer on Board|his real-world views]] into the series. The end result is that what was accepted as deliberate values dissonance in previous books is suddenly and jarringly depicted as always being bad in later ones.
*** On the other hand, ''[[
* In [[Mary Renault]]'s ''The King Must Die'', there is mention of its hero, Theseus, taking sexual advantage of female servants/slaves starting from a young age, and this is completely appropriate behavior.
** Her book ''The Persian Boy'' was blasted by [[Moral Guardian]]s because one of its main themes is pederasty. This despite the fact that the narrator clearly states that his treatment as a child was horribly abusive. (If anything, ''The Persian Boy'' is a scathing, vicious denunciation of child sexual abuse.) Most of the main action of the novel, where the narrator finds love and happiness, takes place after he reaches adulthood.
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