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* Nale from ''[[Order of the Stick |
* Nale from ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]'' is a diabolical [[Smug Snake]] who has few, if any, regards for the sanctity of life. However, [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0258.html he's still civilized]. |
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** Redcloak, [[The Dragon]] to [[Evil Overlord]] Xykon states that this is what keeps him from being the [[Complete Monster]] that his boss is. Xykon however revels in his status as a [[Complete Monster]] and sees villains with standards as cowards who can't back up their talk, claiming that he's gotten this far by being [[The Unfettered]]. Xykon in the prequel played with the trope, stating outright that he refuses to kidnap virgins... [[Pragmatic Villainy|because he'd get better mileage out of someone who has been around the block a few times]]. |
** Redcloak, [[The Dragon]] to [[Evil Overlord]] Xykon states that this is what keeps him from being the [[Complete Monster]] that his boss is. Xykon however revels in his status as a [[Complete Monster]] and sees villains with standards as cowards who can't back up their talk, claiming that he's gotten this far by being [[The Unfettered]]. Xykon in the prequel played with the trope, stating outright that he refuses to kidnap virgins... [[Pragmatic Villainy|because he'd get better mileage out of someone who has been around the block a few times]]. |
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*** The prequel plays this straight when Redcloak is horrified by his boss's plan to kill and zombify a woman's physical body, then feed the body to ogres while forcing her soul to watch. |
*** The prequel plays this straight when Redcloak is horrified by his boss's plan to kill and zombify a woman's physical body, then feed the body to ogres while forcing her soul to watch. |
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** When Vaarsuvius {{spoiler|wipes out a quarter of the black dragon race}} the fiends that gave him or her that power in the first place are [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0640.html genuinely surprised.] |
** When Vaarsuvius {{spoiler|wipes out a quarter of the black dragon race}} the fiends that gave him or her that power in the first place are [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0640.html genuinely surprised.] |
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** [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0718.html This is the "Empire of Blood", not the "Empire of Blood All Over Our New Carpets".] |
** [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0718.html This is the "Empire of Blood", not the "Empire of Blood All Over Our New Carpets".] |
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** Belkar may be a [[Heroic Comedic Sociopath]], but even he feels that {{spoiler|[[Involuntary Battle to |
** Belkar may be a [[Heroic Comedic Sociopath]], but even he feels that {{spoiler|[[Involuntary Battle to the Death|forcing two best friends to fight each other to the death]]}} is [[Moral Event Horizon|crossing the line]] |
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* Likewise, the Dimension of Pain from ''[[Sluggy Freelance]]'' is a hellish realm populated with horrible demons that thrive on suffering and pain. However, [http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=980429 even THEY have limits]... |
* Likewise, the Dimension of Pain from ''[[Sluggy Freelance]]'' is a hellish realm populated with horrible demons that thrive on suffering and pain. However, [http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=980429 even THEY have limits]... |
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** This trope is [http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=060810 spoofed] in a much later stick figure filler week. |
** This trope is [http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=060810 spoofed] in a much later stick figure filler week. |
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* Parodied in ''[http://www.hello-cthulhu.com/?date=2003-12-07 The Misadventures of Hello Cthulhu]'', where Cthulhu calls Hello Kitty's parents "unspeakable beasts" for producing offspring. Which, if you consider the [[Expanded Universe]] [[Canon]], is [[wikipedia:Cthylla|built on a lie]], making it [[Hypocritical Humor]]. |
* Parodied in ''[http://www.hello-cthulhu.com/?date=2003-12-07 The Misadventures of Hello Cthulhu]'', where Cthulhu calls Hello Kitty's parents "unspeakable beasts" for producing offspring. Which, if you consider the [[Expanded Universe]] [[Canon]], is [[wikipedia:Cthylla|built on a lie]], making it [[Hypocritical Humor]]. |
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** Parodied again [http://www.hello-cthulhu.com/?date=2003-12-15 not too many strips later] when Dagon says that even his kind has higher standards than making unholy offspring half-breeds from Sanrio characters. |
** Parodied again [http://www.hello-cthulhu.com/?date=2003-12-15 not too many strips later] when Dagon says that even his kind has higher standards than making unholy offspring half-breeds from Sanrio characters. |
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* Hunter Ravenwood of ''[[Suicide for Hire]]'' [[Wouldn't Hit a Girl |
* Hunter Ravenwood of ''[[Suicide for Hire]]'' [[Wouldn't Hit a Girl]], though that doesn't stop him from killing women who pay him to do so. Evidence suggests he doesn't like to think of the clients as people at all. The rules of the titular business also include "Suicides may not result in the death of a third party" and "Children under the age of sixteen will not be allowed to kill themselves". A pregnant client is rejected for this reason, as they consider her foetus to be a third party and object to helping her escape responsibility for it. |
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** Later, when confronted with a severely battered woman, he first wants to help her kill her abusive husband. {{spoiler|Only when she can't go through with the act, despite getting ''clear instructions'' via two-way radio, does he help her kill herself. Later, the husband comes to SFH...and his death is not at all pretty.}} Unusually, Arcturus is as enthusiastic about this job as Hunter. |
** Later, when confronted with a severely battered woman, he first wants to help her kill her abusive husband. {{spoiler|Only when she can't go through with the act, despite getting ''clear instructions'' via two-way radio, does he help her kill herself. Later, the husband comes to SFH...and his death is not at all pretty.}} Unusually, Arcturus is as enthusiastic about this job as Hunter. |
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* [http://www.evil-comic.com/archive/20070721.html This strip] of ''[[Evil, Inc.]]''. |
* [http://www.evil-comic.com/archive/20070721.html This strip] of ''[[Evil, Inc.]]''. |
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** Garland also does this in the beginning, when Princess Sara suggests torturing the heroes of light by forcing them to listen to Cher. |
** Garland also does this in the beginning, when Princess Sara suggests torturing the heroes of light by forcing them to listen to Cher. |
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** It's a little jarring to realize that [[Omnicidal Maniac|Black Mage]], of all people, is the one out of the heroes who is most commonly freaked out by the stuff his companions, most notably Red Mage, pull off. |
** It's a little jarring to realize that [[Omnicidal Maniac|Black Mage]], of all people, is the one out of the heroes who is most commonly freaked out by the stuff his companions, most notably Red Mage, pull off. |
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*** That's because the stuff the others, and ''especially' Red Mage, do are [[Insane Troll Logic|crimes]] [[Logic Bomb|against]] [[Divide |
*** That's because the stuff the others, and ''especially' Red Mage, do are [[Insane Troll Logic|crimes]] [[Logic Bomb|against]] [[Divide by Zero|logic]]. |
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** Black Mage also manages this after he [http://www.nuklearpower.com/2004/03/20/episode-397-portents/ usurps the throne of Hell.] Fighter naturally assumes that he went to Heaven instead. |
** Black Mage also manages this after he [http://www.nuklearpower.com/2004/03/20/episode-397-portents/ usurps the throne of Hell.] Fighter naturally assumes that he went to Heaven instead. |
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{{quote| '''Black Mage''': Even though I am the incarnation of all mortal evils, I just don't have the heart.}} |
{{quote| '''Black Mage''': Even though I am the incarnation of all mortal evils, I just don't have the heart.}} |
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** Thief states that Black Mage has hit a new low when he hears his plan to get into White Mage's robes after she {{spoiler|temporarily turns "evil"}} involving what he ''thinks'' is alcohol but may be paint thinner. When the other Light Warriors point out that it'll likely kill White Mage, Black Mage simply responds that the corpse will still be warm for a little while. |
** Thief states that Black Mage has hit a new low when he hears his plan to get into White Mage's robes after she {{spoiler|temporarily turns "evil"}} involving what he ''thinks'' is alcohol but may be paint thinner. When the other Light Warriors point out that it'll likely kill White Mage, Black Mage simply responds that the corpse will still be warm for a little while. |
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{{quote| '''Thief''': That... may be the worst thing you've ever said.}} |
{{quote| '''Thief''': That... may be the worst thing you've ever said.}} |
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* During the [[Christmas Carol]] arc of ''[[Brawl in |
* During the [[Christmas Carol]] arc of ''[[Brawl in the Family]]'', as Mario saves Peach, he asks if she's fine and she says that Bowser never laid a hand on her. Bowser chimes in, "Well, I'm not a monster." |
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* [[The Cyantian Chronicles]] features [http://cyantian.net/blog/2011/10/17/10172011/#comments Filaire], a gold fox who works for a wolf who is apparently a cannibal. |
* [[The Cyantian Chronicles]] features [http://cyantian.net/blog/2011/10/17/10172011/#comments Filaire], a gold fox who works for a wolf who is apparently a cannibal. |
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** He's proposed roasting a sentient rabbit if she doesn't meet with his expectations. Definitely '''NOT''' a case of [[Inverted Trope|inverted]] [[Carnivore Confusion]]. |
** He's proposed roasting a sentient rabbit if she doesn't meet with his expectations. Definitely '''NOT''' a case of [[Inverted Trope|inverted]] [[Carnivore Confusion]]. |
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* Minmax in [[Goblins]] may be a [[Fantastic Racism|Fantastic Racist]] who struggles to comprehend the idea that monsters exist for reasons other than to be slaughtered by adventurers, but when he learns that [[Complete Monster|Dellyn]] [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil|rapes and beats his Yuan-Ti slave]], his attiude shifts from hero worship to revulsion almost immediately, and he [[Destination Defenestration|throws Dellyn through a window]]. |
* Minmax in [[Goblins]] may be a [[Fantastic Racism|Fantastic Racist]] who struggles to comprehend the idea that monsters exist for reasons other than to be slaughtered by adventurers, but when he learns that [[Complete Monster|Dellyn]] [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil|rapes and beats his Yuan-Ti slave]], his attiude shifts from hero worship to revulsion almost immediately, and he [[Destination Defenestration|throws Dellyn through a window]]. |
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* In the ''[[The Beast Legion]]'' , The shadow Nexus second in command stampede is Ruthless when it comes to battle but carries a great sense of honor & loyalty unlike his master. |
* In the ''[[The Beast Legion]]'' , The shadow Nexus second in command stampede is Ruthless when it comes to battle but carries a great sense of honor & loyalty unlike his master. |
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* [[Head Trip |
* [[Head Trip|Shinga]] gleefully makes jokes about selling coat hangers to pregnant women, but feels [http://headtripcomics.comicgenesis.com/d/20071212.html that her soul is being ripped out by making her characters be in Reality TV.] |
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* [[Questionable Content]] does this to a lesser degree. Marigold is willing to guilt-trip her roommate into making out with her. But she is a [[World of Warcraft|Horde]] woman to the end, [http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1680 even in real-life.] |
* [[Questionable Content]] does this to a lesser degree. Marigold is willing to guilt-trip her roommate into making out with her. But she is a [[World of Warcraft|Horde]] woman to the end, [http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1680 even in real-life.] |
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* Lil' E from ''[[Sinfest]]'' is the devil's fanboy, admires everything he does, and really, really enjoys murder. However, he will NOT tolerate [http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2599 people spitting in his sandwiches.] |
* Lil' E from ''[[Sinfest]]'' is the devil's fanboy, admires everything he does, and really, really enjoys murder. However, he will NOT tolerate [http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2599 people spitting in his sandwiches.] |
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* The [[All Trolls Are Different|Trolls]] of ''[[ |
* The [[All Trolls Are Different|Trolls]] of ''[[Homestuck]]'' may be a race almost entirely composed of violent [[Jerkass|Jerk Asses]], but most of them are still disgusted with [[Smug Snake|Vriska's]] [[Chronic Backstabbing Disorder]]. |
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** Of course, with their [[Blue and Orange Morality]], what is evil and what is not can at times be hard to judge. Karkat's [["The Reason You Suck" Speech|explanation as to why she's despised]] seems to call her out more for being [[Stupid Evil]] than anything, and the fact that her vicious streak could be used to actually do something ''productive'' rather than just [[Kick the Dog|punting puppies left and right.]] |
** Of course, with their [[Blue and Orange Morality]], what is evil and what is not can at times be hard to judge. Karkat's [["The Reason You Suck" Speech|explanation as to why she's despised]] seems to call her out more for being [[Stupid Evil]] than anything, and the fact that her vicious streak could be used to actually do something ''productive'' rather than just [[Kick the Dog|punting puppies left and right.]] |
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** Karkat's universe's version of Jack Noir is just as much an [[Ax Crazy]] [[Knife Nut]] as any other version. But even he thinks that Karkat's angst over his "candy-color blood" is one of the saddest things he's ever seen and becomes Karkat's [[Blood Brothers|Blood Brother]] out of sympathy. |
** Karkat's universe's version of Jack Noir is just as much an [[Ax Crazy]] [[Knife Nut]] as any other version. But even he thinks that Karkat's angst over his "candy-color blood" is one of the saddest things he's ever seen and becomes Karkat's [[Blood Brothers|Blood Brother]] out of sympathy. |
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* ''[[Vexxarr]]'' before leaving Earth had to [http://www.vexxarr.com/archive.php?seldate=121905 thank] [[Mega Corp|Sony]]... for [[Eviler Than Thou|unburdening his conscience]]. |
* ''[[Vexxarr]]'' before leaving Earth had to [http://www.vexxarr.com/archive.php?seldate=121905 thank] [[Mega Corp|Sony]]... for [[Eviler Than Thou|unburdening his conscience]]. |
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* [http://choppingblock.keenspot.com/d/20020815.html This] ''[[Chopping Block]]'' comic. |
* [http://choppingblock.keenspot.com/d/20020815.html This] ''[[Chopping Block]]'' comic. |
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* ''[[ |
* ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'':<s>Even pitch-black evil guy</s> [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2009-11-11 Even Magus] {{spoiler|won't help Chaos ruin Verres to just to kill Abraham just to punish Raven for being a disobedient son.}} |
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** Also, during ''Painted Black'', Hedge did everything in his power ''not'' to bring women back to Damien, knowing that he only wanted them for breeding. Once Damien was no longer around to control them, all of Grace's brothers surrendered without a fight. |
** Also, during ''Painted Black'', Hedge did everything in his power ''not'' to bring women back to Damien, knowing that he only wanted them for breeding. Once Damien was no longer around to control them, all of Grace's brothers surrendered without a fight. |
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* In Jason Love's cartoons, other bank robbers don't approve of [http://www.jasonlove.com/cartoons/00627-funny-cartoons-robbers.gif Cherry and Serry]. |
* In Jason Love's cartoons, other bank robbers don't approve of [http://www.jasonlove.com/cartoons/00627-funny-cartoons-robbers.gif Cherry and Serry]. |
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* Mike from [[ |
* Mike from [[Shortpacked]]. He may be a [[Jerkass]] who has engaged in cruelty that [[Crosses the Line Twice|crosses the line]] [[Beyond the Impossible|seven times]], but at least he cops to it. Then he meets the aptly named [http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-13/01-daddy-issues/asshole-2/ Asshole Guy]. |
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{{quote| '''Mike:''' Hey, are you the asshole?<br /> |
{{quote| '''Mike:''' Hey, are you the asshole?<br /> |
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'''Guy:''' Dude, I'm not an asshole. I'm just, you know, what do they call it, anti-social. [[Smug Snake|I can't help it]].<br /> |
'''Guy:''' Dude, I'm not an asshole. I'm just, you know, what do they call it, anti-social. [[Smug Snake|I can't help it]].<br /> |