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== Abridged Series ==
* A running gag in ''[[Ranma ½: The Abridged Chronicles|Ranma 1/2: The Abridged Chronicles]]'' is the old folks living in the town who seek world domination. At first it was just Ranma's suspicions that one old lady was up to no good, but later several senior citizens gathered outside were plotting to "strike at midnight," and another attempted to kill Ryoga after he found her a good spot from which to plot world domination.
 
 
== Anime and Manga ==
* Enya Geil from ''[[JoJo's Bizarre Adventure|Jojo's Bizarre Adventure]]'' Part 3 is a cunning, ''nasty'' old woman who tries to get revenge on the heroes for killing her depraved psychopath of a son.
** [[Abusive Parents|Dario Brando]], father of [[Big Bad|Dio Brando]] is also an example. He was a wife-beating self-centered drunk who tormented Dio as a child and the largest contributing factor to Dio's [[Complete Monster]] personality. Perhaps everything could have been avoided had Dario just been a little nicer to his son...
* Danzou from ''[[Naruto]]'', who is tied with Homura, Koharu, and [[Big Good|The Third Hokage]] for being the oldest known person in the Leaf Village. One word: {{spoiler|Sharingarm.}}
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* [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Frau Totenkinder]] from ''[[Fables]]''. She may look like a frail old woman {{spoiler|though she could easily undo her aging if she wished}}, but she is every unnamed witch in fairy tales; meaning she is one of the most powerful Fables alive. While she is firmly aligned with Fabletown, even a cursory glance into her past will reveal that she was(is?) ''not'' a good person. She even fought [[Baba Yaga]] at one point and, in a rather [[Eviler Than Thou]] manner, defeated her.
* [[Shazam|Captain Marvel, Jr]]. fought a villain named Greybeard a couple of times. Sentenced to 99 years in prison when he was a young man, Greybeard served his entire sentence. On his release, he became a supervillain, basing his crimes around the theme of age, to take revenege on a world that had passed him by.
* [[Ambiguously MoralMorally-Ambiguous Doctorate|Doctor]] [[Mad Scientist|Sivana]], while not quite as extreme an example, also fit the bill, seemingly at least in his late fifties.
* [[DC Comics]] villains Granny Goodness and DeSaad, [[New Gods]] and minions of [[Darkseid]]. Interestingly, both are actually ''younger'' than their master, who doesn't quite fit the trope himself; it may have something to do with his personal power being far greater than theirs.
* [[Sin City]] has the Roarke brothers who are powerful politicians who run crime in the city and harbor [[Serial Killer]]s. Both of them are easily in their sixties or older. There is also the short story entitled ''Rats'' about a retired Nazi war criminal.
* In ''[[All Fall Down]]'', IQ lives in a squalid retirement home and has not lost an inch of his hate for the good guys.
* ''[[Howard the Duck (comics)|Howard the Duck]]'' had a foe called the Kidney Lady who was obsessed with the notion that there was some widespread conspiracy threatening people's kidneys. (Maybe [[Organ Theft| illegal organ trafficking]], maybe purposely marketing food that was high in cholesterol, anything that might involve them) and was also obsessed with the notion that Howard was involved in said conspiracy. It may have been easy to write her off as some nutty [[Conspiracy Theorist]], but she wasn't harmless, being a witch of some sort who could teleport herself and animate objects, in one story creating a monster called [[Animate Inanimate Object| the Chair-Thing.]]
* [[Spider-Man]] villain and [[Daredevil]]'s [[Arch Enemy]] Wilson Fisk, [[The Don| the Kingpin of Crime]]. When he first appeared in ''The Amazing Spider-Man #50'' he had already been an influential and powerful mobster for well over a decade, and in later stories, Peter recognizes the name of a crime boss that Fisk used to work ''three'' decades ago, so Fisk likely in his late 50s, at least.
 
== Fan Works ==
* A running gag in ''[[Ranma ½: The Abridged Chronicles|Ranma 1/2: The Abridged Chronicles]]'' is the old folks living in the town who seek world domination. At first it was just Ranma's suspicions that one old lady was up to no good, but later several senior citizens gathered outside were plotting to "strike at midnight," and another attempted to kill Ryoga after he found her a good spot from which to plot world domination.
 
== Film ==
* Emperor Palpatine form ''[[Star Wars|Emperor Palpatine]]''.
** [[Fat Bastard|Jabba the Hutt]], being 600 years old. He is an example, but not an extreme one. Hutts typically live 10 times longer than humans.
** Count Dooku from the prequels, who looks more like a dignified elderly statesman than a terrible Sith Lord. In fact, most of [[Christopher Lee]]'s roles from the past few decades likely count.
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* Judge Smails from ''[[Caddyshack]]''
* Noah Cross in ''[[Chinatown]]''.
* ''[[Son of the Mask]]'': Odin, Ruler of Asgard &and Valhalla, His Wrathful arrogance &and his tyrannical all-mighty stature is physically a dead giveaway. He's grown more impatient as his son Loki fails time and time again to find and recover the lost God-Mask.
* Parodied with Old Man McGinty in ''[[Mystery Team]]''. Despite being clearly comatose, the trio still suspects him of murder.
* The MacCreadys from the 1984 thriller ''[[Cloak and Dagger (film)|Cloak & Dagger]]''.
* The Duke brothers from ''[[Trading Places]]'' decide to completely upend the lives of two men for the sake of a one-dollar bet.
 
== Folklore ==
* [[Baba Yaga]]. A powerful and immortal old witch of [[Russian Mythology and Tales|Russian folklore]]. Sometimes an enemy, sometimes a guide—but always, always dangerous.
** And another figure from Russian folklore as well, [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Koschei the Deathless]].
 
 
== Literature ==
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* In ''[[House of the Scorpion]]'', El Patron is the ancient ruler of Opium, a nation built out of the US-Mexican border and based on enslaving illegal immigrants(from both sides) by turning them into what basically amounts to zombies, and the international drug trade. And he maintains his long life through {{spoiler|[[Immortality Immorality|harvesting the organs of clones.]]}}
* Ctuchik from ''[[The Belgariad]]'' is an [[Evil Sorcerer]] and [[Sinister Minister]] who serves as [[The Dragon]] to [[God of Evil]] Torak. Appearing as an ancient old man with a long, [[Beard of Evil|yellow, filthy]] [[Wizard Beard]], and a face ravaged by centuries of depravity and excess, he's a Type A [[Elderly Immortal]], and a [[Deceptive Disciple]] to his god, plotting to [[Take Over the World]] himself. His colleague and [[Co-Dragons|Co Dragon]], Zedar, is another, far more sympathetic example, being a former good guy who was drafted into serving Torak.
 
 
== Live-Action TV ==
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* A few UnSubs of ''[[Criminal Minds]]'' fall into this category, but Anita and Roger Roycewood from "Mosley Lane" stand out the most.
* Granny Goodness on ''[[Smallville]]'' combines this with [[Straight Edge Evil]] and [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing]] for genuinely frightening results.
* In ''[[Cutey Honey the Live]],'' the nice old lady who owns a fish shop {{spoiler|is one of Panther Claw's highest ranking generals. Get in her way and she will bludgeon you to death, cut you up with frozen food, or just use the ''missile launchers built into her stomach.'' But however she kills you, she'll do it without losing her kind, motherly demeanor for a second.}}
* Daniel Linderman and Arthur Petrelli, the [[Big Bad]]s of Volumes One and Three of ''[[Heroes]]'', are both in their sixties. In fact, they were Army buddies during the [[Vietnam War]] before becoming [[Fallen Hero]]es.
* On ''[[Leverage]]'', Nate's dad Jimmy is an aging member of [[The Irish Mob]] who, having lost his former position of influence in the Boston underworld during a long prison term, is scheming to get it back.
 
 
== Magazines ==
* This is basically the only way to describe T. Herman Zweibel, the "Editor" of ''[[The Onion]]'' since taking it from his father at the age of 20. According to [https://web.archive.org/web/20130413041104/http://www.zweibelmemorial.org/timeline.php this timeline] he has opposed social change of any sorts (he went into a coma upon hearing of the Civil Rights Movement), is indirectly responsible for several historical acts such as the sinking of the ''Lusitania'', the [[Who Shot JFK?|assassination of JFK]] and Archduke Franz Ferdinand (thus indirectly starting [[World War I]]) and has put a bounty on the heads of Upton Sinclair and Ring Lardner. Despite being diagnosed with countless diseases and suffering from (to put it generously) crippling senility is still somehow alive and still writing at the age of 140. (Specifically, writing uplifting prose such as his [[Crosses the Line Twice|"Huzzah for the Death of a Child!"]] in which he gloats that a recently deceased eight-year-old was on the organ donor list and thanks to her gristly demise, Zweibel will be able to get drunk again for as much as three weeks before he kills his transplant liver, too...)
 
 
== VideogamesVideo Games ==
* Mr. and Mrs. Cutter from ''[[Okami]]''. Even the weather above their house carries a foreboding feeling.
* Most [[Sinister Minister]] type villains in ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' are visibly ancient.
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** {{spoiler|Ambassador Quercus Alba}} from the same series is another very nasty example.
** {{spoiler|Damon Gant}}, murderer and blackmailer, is 65 years old, [[Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have!|believe it or not]].
* What about {{spoiler|Flemeth}} from ''[[Dragon Age]]: Origins]]''? Old and evil and very powerful, and only seemingly [[Retired Monster|retired]].
* Master Xehanort from ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]: [[Birth Byby Sleep]]''.
* Charon from ''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Pokémon Platinum]]''. Doesn't help matters any that he's the oldest Galactic member by at least thirty years.
** {{spoiler|The Societea}} from ''[[Pokémon Ranger]]: Guardian Signs'' is composed of four really old [[Retired Outlaw|retired]] [[Phantom Thief|thiefs]]; fittingly, their primary goal is [[Immortality]].
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* There is a particularly suspicious one in Mardek Chapter 3. He is defined as [[Chaotic Evil]] in the game helper and [[Obviously Evil|literally looks evil]]. He's [[Evil Chancellor|the adviser of the king]] (who joins you) of the lizard village beneath the Sun Temple, leading to the Evil Black Temple, which gets you plot sooner or later.
* Tenpenny from ''[[Fallout 3]]'' is a wealthy, [[Affably Evil|amiable]] old man who wants you to nuke a nearby village ''because it's an eyesore''.
* ''[[Fallout: New Vegas]]'': The core game has [[Big Bad|Caesar]], and [[Black and Gray Morality|arguably]] [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|Mr. House]]. The ''Old World Blues'' DLC has the Think Tanks, who are former scientists who have outlived their bodies by transporting their brains into robots (though they're arguably more insane than truly evil). Finally, the ''Dead Money'' DLC has Father Elijah, who is very, ''[[Complete Monster|very]]'' evil.
* The Hag from ''[[Thief|Thief: Deadly Shadows]]'': a centuries-old [[Serial Killer]] who skins and murders people including ''children'' to [[Immoral Immortality|extend her own life]].
* The classic Evil Old Guy of video games would have to be [[Mega Man (video game)|Dr. Albert Wily]], an elderly [[Mad Scientist]] bent on world domination, with an army of robots at his command.
* ''[[Fate/stay night]]'' has Zouken Matou, a twisted, vile piece of work [[Complete Monster|hideous in both body and mind.]]
* [[Villain Protagonist]] Trevor Philips from ''[[Grand Theft Auto V]]''
** From the same game, the Altruist Cult a cult full of [[Evil Reactionary]]s made up of men from the "baby boomer" generation. They despise younger folks, believing them responsible for all the troubles in the world. They pay cash for "lost souls" (meaning the player can kidnap younger civilians and deliver them to the cult in exchange for money; the cult is implied to be cannibals, so these victims likely don't last long). {{spoiler|However, if Trevor delivers four victims, the cult turns on him, requiring a shootout between him and the cult.}}
 
== WebcomicsWeb Comics ==
* Sarda from ''[[8-Bit Theater|Eight Bit Theater]]''.
* Baron Klaus Wulfenbach of ''[[Girl Genius]]'' may have gray hair, but he rules his empire with an iron fist and isn't afraid to subject people to unethical experiments or lay waste to entire cities if he finds it necessary.
** [[Anti-Villain|He's only evil from a very superficial standpoint]], though; he's more about efficiency and doing it right, and is, in fact, a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]].<ref>Prior to becoming a hard-handed dictator, he, along with the Heterodyne boys, forged peace throughout Europa using diplomacy and nonviolence. After a brief leave of absence, he returned to discover that the Heterodyne boys had disappeared, and with them had gone the peace he'd worked so hard for. He reasoned that, if peace by diplomacy was so fleeting, peace by busting heads was going to be at least as permanent as he was.</ref> His ruling style (and official mission statement) is "Don't make me come over there", and the local lords and mad scientists are largely left alone provided they don't break any rules; he's also very supportive of the arts and the sciences, and sponsors many young geniuses from noble families (even if his sponsorship does double as the taking of a hostage to keep said families in line).
* Xykon from ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]'' wasn't always a [[Our Liches Are Different|lich]]. Before he transformed, he was already 80 years old, yet he was still a strong enough sorcerer to wipe out a squad of paladins without any of them touching him.
 
 
== Western Animation ==
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* Yzma, [[Evil Chancellor]] and [[Big Bad]] of ''[[The Emperor's New Groove]]''.
* From ''[[The Owl House]]'', Terra Snapdragon, head of the [[Green Thumb| Plant Coven]] and henchman of [[Big Bad|Emperor Belos]]. While her age isn't stated, she is clearly an old woman, and as far as "evil" goes, is more sadistic than most of the Belos' cronies.
* On ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'', C. Montgomery "Monty" Burns (Homer's boss) is the closest the series has to an overall [[Big Bad]]. A [[Corrupt Corporate Executive]] and greedy plutocrat who treats his employees like garbage<ref>Usually, he ''can'' be a [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold]] when the plot calls for it</ref>, his evil deeds would take far too long to list given the longevity of the series, but among those that stand out: blocking out the sun, obsessively pursuing Homer's mother for wrecking his research on biological warfare, building weapons for the Nazis (claiming he was better than Shindler because "mine worked, dammit!") and trying to murder Grandpa in order to win a [[Tontine]] contract.
** Of course, it's clear where he gets it from, as his grandfather Wainwright (whose first recorded crime was taking Monty away from his loving parents) was even worse in all regards, possibly influencing Monty as an [[Evil Mentor]].
* ''[[Family Guy]]''
** While nobody in this series can truly be called "good", Peter's father-in-law Carter Pewterschmidt is in a class by himself. A greedy billionaire and [[Corrupt Corporate Executive]] who hates everyone, including Peter (often ''especially'' Peter) the worst thing he's done is, without a doubt, refuse to release a cure for cancer on the market because existing treatments are more profitable. He also once tried to feed an attorney presenting him with a summons to a Rancor (due to Carner's bad luck, said attorney had Jedi training), and tries to shut down Rhode Island's state government in order to hide the fact that his factories are violating environmental regulations. He bribed his wife into marrying (is not a faithful spouse) and tried to bribe Peter into not marrying Lois. It is not unexpected that in the [[May the Farce Be with You|Star Wars parody]] he took the role of Emperor Palpatine.
** John Herbert; his name rhymes with "pervert", and he is both this and a pedophile, his age pretty much the only reason anyone finds him funny.
*** Although, [[Even Evil Has Standards| one decent thing]] Herbert did was confront and outfight Lieutenant Schlechtnacht, another example of this Trope and an unrepentant former Nazi; clearly Herbert was the lesser evil there.
** Peter's stepfather Francis was, if anything, as bad as Carl. A Catholic fundamentalist and intolerant bigot, he hated Lois simply because she was Protestant; on Peter's wedding day he went so far as to tape a sign saying "To A Protestant Whore" underneath the "Just Married" sign on back of the limo. He even accused the Pope of being an untrue Catholic for challenging these views. Everyone except Peter despised him, Lois and Brian dancing with joy when he died; not that this kept him from being a nuisance one more time, as he appeared in a vision to Peter, telling him he'd burn in Hell for attempting to embrace Judaism. Eventually, Peter is able to accept that his stepfather was a horrible man when Jesus himself appears, telling him and his family that there was no need to choose, claiming Catholisism and Judaism are [[Not So Different]] (stressing that he himself was a Jew) and also claiming that [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|''all'' organized religions are terrible.]]
 
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