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{{quote|''"If you live like a villain all your life, sooner or later you will be 60 and still being shot at."''|'''[[Roger Ebert]]''', reviewing ''[[The Limey]]''}}
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To qualify for this trope, a character must be old (by their species' standards), and must also be visibly aged. Even if they're [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old]], it doesn't count if they look like a ten-year-old child. Just being a cranky old man is not enough to qualify one as evil, either. World domination, death to humans, or anything else that could be pulled off by younger villains are all suitable goals to make one qualify as an Evil Old Folk. If they happen to be really old and remain young by [[Liquid Assets|stealing the youth of others]], it can count so long as they occasionally look old.
So next time Mr. Jenkins next door yells at you to get off his lawn, you might want to
See [[Liquid Assets]] for evil old folks who look young by stealing the youth of others. Compare [[Cool Old Guy]], [[Dirty Old Man]], [[Grumpy Old Man]]. See also [[Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids]] and [[Jade-Colored Glasses]]. For old folks who were evil when they were your age, try [[Retired Monster]].
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* A running gag in ''[[Ranma Abridged|Ranma 1/2: The Abridged Chronicles]]'' is the old folks living in the town who seek world domination. At first it was just Ranma's suspicions that one old lady was up to no good, but later several senior citizens gathered outside were plotting to "strike at midnight," and another attempted to kill Ryoga after he found her a good spot from which to plot world domination.▼
== Anime and Manga ==
* Enya Geil from ''[[
** [[Abusive Parents|Dario Brando]], father of [[Big Bad|Dio Brando]] is also an example. He was a wife-beating self-centered drunk who tormented Dio as a child and the largest contributing factor to Dio's [[Complete Monster]] personality. Perhaps everything could have been avoided had Dario just been a little nicer to his son...
* Danzou from ''[[Naruto]]'', who is tied with Homura, Koharu, and [[Big Good|The Third Hokage]] for being the oldest known person in the Leaf Village. One word: {{spoiler|Sharingarm.}}
** For that matter, Kakuzu (91) and {{spoiler|Madara Uchiha}} (at ''least'' in his early 80s) are probably two of the oldest humans in the entire world, and are both bad guys. Orochimaru would count too, being in his 50s, but [[Body Surf|he retains his youth using new bodies]].
* Drosselmeyer from "[[Princess Tutu]]", an evil old fucker if there ever was one.
* The main antagonists from both ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' continuities fit this trope nicely. Father has the appearance of an imposing old man robed in white, and even though he can be somewhat goofy at times, his evil is hardly a secret. He's behind nearly every tragedy in the entire series.
** {{spoiler|Dante}} from the first anime is arguably a little more faithful to the trope. {{spoiler|When she's first introduced, she seems like a genuinely nice old woman, and Alphonse in particular seems to take a liking to her. After all, an old bonnet-wearing pharmacist couldn't possibly be the leader of the homunculi, right?}}
* In the actual ''[[Ranma
* Yubaba from ''[[Spirited Away]]'' is the wicked owner of the bath house, and has the nasty habit of stealing peoples' names once they begin working for her. The fact that she enslaves nature spirits doesn't help her case either.
** Don't forget turning hapless human intruders into pigs or pieces of coal, used for food and fuel respectively.
* In ''[[Bleach]]'' [[Filler]] episodes, the Bount are several centuries old, but retain their youth by eating ghosts. The exception to their youthful appearances is Sawatari, who looks very old due to recklessly devouring human souls.
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* Dr. Gero from ''[[Dragon Ball]] Z/GT''.
** In the earlier ''[[Dragon Ball]]'', Piccolo Daimao originally looked ancient and wrinkled like an old prune. This didn't stop him from [[Curb Stomp Battle|completely dominating]] Goku in their first encounter; when he got his youth back thanks to the Dragon Balls, well, [[It Got Worse]].
* Szilard Quates of ''[[Baccano!]]!''. Evil deeds including but not limited to betraying a shipload of people who trusted him, enslaving a [[Our Homunculi Are Different|homunculus]] of his creation on pain of death, and "[[You Will Be Assimilated|devouring]]" people's minds left and right to increase his own knowledge. Possibly lampshaded in that he once rationalizes some of his behavior by noting his distrust of young people. Quates' [[Battle Butler]] notes that he is quite likely the oldest person on earth (which means that he distrusts/will do badly by ''everyone else'').
* For the first three arcs of ''[[Umineko no Naku Koro ni]]'', Kinzo isn't portrayed quite so much as evil as he is [[Love Makes You Crazy|crazy]] and [[Evil Is Not a Toy|desperate]]. Then comes the fourth arc, and he definitely [[Love Makes You Evil|crosses that boundary]]. {{spoiler|By the end of the arc, though, it's subverted, since Kinzo was dead the entire time}}.
* In ''[[The Tower of Druaga (anime)|The Tower of Druaga]]: The Sword of Uruk'', we learn that {{spoiler|King Gilgamesh is immortal, as his mortal self was sealed atop the tower. As he grows older, his heart grows colder, until he becomes a cold-blooded tyrant who slaughters his own citizens.}}
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* ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]'''s [[Big Bad]] is {{spoiler|Albert Maverick}}, who seems so nice in the first half of the series...until we learn [[Manipulative Bastard|what he's really like]]. Eventually picks up the [[Villain Ball]] and runs with it.
* Vamp of Florsheim from ''[[Tentai Senshi Sunred]]'' looks and acts like a fuzzy old man and has the goal of [[World Domination]], right after he crushes his [[Arch Enemy]] Sunred. Of course, fortunately for the world, he ''is'' a fuzzy old man and [[Harmless Villain|about as 'evil' as a boot]]; Sunred won't even fight him directly because he'd look like someone bullying the elderly if he did.
* The Gorosei, or Five Star Elders in ''[[One Piece]]'', the heads of the World Government, {{spoiler|or so it seems, [[The Man Behind The Man| until Im appears]].}} While very little is known about their identities or their pasts, the youngest-looking member seems to be around 50, and the three of the others seem much older, one of them using a walking-cane.
== Comic Books ==
* [[Spider-Man]] has several in his [[Rogues Gallery]]. The most famous is probably the Vulture, who briefly possessed the ability to [[Liquid Assets|steal the youth of others]], but the webhead has also had trouble from [[Gadgeteer Genius|The Tinkerer]] and elderly crimeboss Silvermane.
* [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Frau Totenkinder]] from ''[[
* [[Shazam|Captain Marvel, Jr]]. fought a villain named Greybeard a couple of times. Sentenced to 99 years in prison when he was a young man, Greybeard served his entire sentence. On his release, he became a supervillain, basing his crimes around the theme of age, to take revenege on a world that had passed him by.
* [[
* [[DC Comics]] villains Granny Goodness and DeSaad, [[New Gods]] and minions of [[Darkseid]]. Interestingly, both are actually ''younger'' than their master, who doesn't quite fit the trope himself; it may have something to do with his personal power being far greater than theirs.
* [[Sin City]] has the Roarke brothers who are powerful politicians who run crime in the city and harbor [[Serial
* In ''[[All Fall Down]]'', IQ lives in a squalid retirement home and has not lost an inch of his hate for the good guys.
* ''[[Howard the Duck (comics)|Howard the Duck]]'' had a foe called the Kidney Lady who was obsessed with the notion that there was some widespread conspiracy threatening people's kidneys. (Maybe [[Organ Theft| illegal organ trafficking]], maybe purposely marketing food that was high in cholesterol, anything that might involve them) and was also obsessed with the notion that Howard was involved in said conspiracy. It may have been easy to write her off as some nutty [[Conspiracy Theorist]], but she wasn't harmless, being a witch of some sort who could teleport herself and animate objects, in one story creating a monster called [[Animate Inanimate Object| the Chair-Thing.]]
* [[Spider-Man]] villain and [[Daredevil]]'s [[Arch Enemy]] Wilson Fisk, [[The Don| the Kingpin of Crime]]. When he first appeared in ''The Amazing Spider-Man #50'' he had already been an influential and powerful mobster for well over a decade, and in later stories, Peter recognizes the name of a crime boss that Fisk used to work ''three'' decades ago, so Fisk likely in his late 50s, at least.
== Fan Works ==
▲* A running gag in ''[[Ranma
== Film ==
* Emperor Palpatine form ''[[Star Wars
** [[Fat Bastard|Jabba the Hutt]], being 600 years old. He is an example, but not an extreme one. Hutts typically live 10 times longer than humans.
** Count Dooku from the prequels, who looks more like a dignified elderly statesman than a terrible Sith Lord. In fact, most of [[Christopher Lee]]'s roles from the past few decades likely count.
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* Most of the Satanists seen in ''[[Rosemary's Baby]]'' are old. For this reason, Rosemary holds a party for young adults only.
* [[London Gangster|Wilson]], [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|Terry Valentine]], and [[The Dragon|Avery]] in ''[[The Limey]]''.
* R.J. Fletcher from ''[[UHF (film)|UHF]]''.
* Howard Beale from ''[[Network]]''
* [[Complete Monster|Brick Top]] from [[Snatch]].
* Momma from ''[[Throw Momma from the Train]]''
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* Judge Smails from ''[[Caddyshack]]''
* Noah Cross in ''[[Chinatown]]''.
* ''[[Son of the Mask]]'': Odin, Ruler of Asgard
* Parodied with Old Man McGinty in ''[[Mystery Team]]''. Despite being clearly comatose, the trio still suspects him of murder.
* The MacCreadys from the 1984 thriller ''[[Cloak and Dagger (film)|Cloak & Dagger]]''.
* The Duke brothers from ''[[Trading Places]]'' decide to completely upend the lives of two men for the sake of a one-dollar bet.
== Folklore ==
* [[Baba Yaga]]. A powerful and immortal old witch of [[Russian Mythology and Tales|Russian folklore]]. Sometimes an enemy, sometimes a
** And another figure from Russian folklore as well, [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Koschei the Deathless]].
== Literature ==
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* In ''[[House of the Scorpion]]'', El Patron is the ancient ruler of Opium, a nation built out of the US-Mexican border and based on enslaving illegal immigrants(from both sides) by turning them into what basically amounts to zombies, and the international drug trade. And he maintains his long life through {{spoiler|[[Immortality Immorality|harvesting the organs of clones.]]}}
* Ctuchik from ''[[The Belgariad]]'' is an [[Evil Sorcerer]] and [[Sinister Minister]] who serves as [[The Dragon]] to [[God of Evil]] Torak. Appearing as an ancient old man with a long, [[Beard of Evil|yellow, filthy]] [[Wizard Beard]], and a face ravaged by centuries of depravity and excess, he's a Type A [[Elderly Immortal]], and a [[Deceptive Disciple]] to his god, plotting to [[Take Over the World]] himself. His colleague and [[Co-Dragons|Co Dragon]], Zedar, is another, far more sympathetic example, being a former good guy who was drafted into serving Torak.
== Live-Action TV ==
* Tilda and Tabby from the ''[[Doctor Who]]'' story ''Paradise Towers'' {{spoiler|[[I'm a Humanitarian|cook and eat their guests]]}}. It is also implied that every one of their generation does.
** "Amy's Choice" has a retirement home full of evil pensioners taken over by a race of aliens. {{spoiler|However, that was a dream.}}
* ''[[The Colbert Report]]'', in the January 21, 2010 episode, lists "Old People" on the Threat Down, due to all the old folks who go on airplanes with [[Sword Cane|swords and knives hidden in their canes]].
* In ''[[Todd and the Book of Pure Evil]]'', it is revealed that virtually all of the residents of the Crowley Heights retirement home are Satanists. Considering they were keeping a man captive and drugged, it qualifies for this trope.
* Tubbs and Edward from ''[[The League of Gentlemen]]'', who torture and sometimes kill any non-locals who intrude on their shop.
* A few UnSubs of ''[[Criminal Minds]]'' fall into this category, but Anita and Roger Roycewood from "Mosley Lane" stand out the most.
* Granny Goodness on ''[[Smallville]]'' combines this with [[Straight Edge Evil]] and [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing]] for genuinely frightening results.
* In ''[[Cutey Honey the Live]],'' the nice old lady who owns a fish shop
* Daniel Linderman and Arthur Petrelli, the [[Big Bad
* On ''[[Leverage]]'', Nate's dad Jimmy is an aging member of [[The Irish Mob]] who, having lost his former position of influence in the Boston underworld during a long prison term, is scheming to get it back.
== Magazines ==
* This is basically the only way to describe T. Herman Zweibel, the "Editor" of ''[[The Onion]]'' since taking it from his father at the age of 20. According to [https://web.archive.org/web/20130413041104/http://www.zweibelmemorial.org/timeline.php this timeline] he has opposed social change of any sorts (he went into a coma upon hearing of the Civil Rights Movement), is indirectly responsible for several historical acts such as the sinking of the ''Lusitania'', the [[Who Shot JFK?|assassination of JFK]] and Archduke Franz Ferdinand (thus indirectly starting [[World War I]]) and has put a bounty on the heads of Upton Sinclair and Ring Lardner. Despite being diagnosed with countless diseases and suffering from (to put it generously) crippling senility is still somehow alive and still writing at the age of 140. (Specifically, writing uplifting prose such as his [[Crosses the Line Twice|"Huzzah for the Death of a Child!"]] in which he gloats that a recently deceased eight-year-old was on the organ donor list and thanks to her gristly demise, Zweibel will be able to get drunk again for as much as three weeks before he kills his transplant liver, too...)
== Video Games ==
* Mr. and Mrs. Cutter from ''[[Okami]]''. Even the weather above their house carries a foreboding feeling.
* Most [[Sinister Minister]] type villains in ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' are visibly ancient.
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** {{spoiler|Ambassador Quercus Alba}} from the same series is another very nasty example.
** {{spoiler|Damon Gant}}, murderer and blackmailer, is 65 years old, [[Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have!|believe it or not]].
* What about {{spoiler|Flemeth}} from ''[[Dragon Age
* Master Xehanort from ''[[Kingdom Hearts
* Charon from ''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Pokémon Platinum]]''. Doesn't help matters any that he's the oldest Galactic member by at least thirty years.
** {{spoiler|The Societea}} from ''[[Pokémon Ranger]]: Guardian Signs'' is composed of four really old [[Retired Outlaw|retired]] [[Phantom Thief|thiefs]]; fittingly, their primary goal is [[Immortality]].
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* Ozwell Spencer of the ''[[Resident Evil]]'' series fulfills this trope when he finally makes an appearance in ''Resident Evil 5''.
* Mr. James Wong of ''[[Stranglehold]]''.
* {{spoiler|Black Hole [[Big Bad|commander]]}} Von Bolt in [[Nintendo Wars|Advance Wars: Dual Strike]] {{spoiler|keeps himself alive by stealing the [[Life Energy|energy]] of Omega Land via his [[Artifact of Doom|wheelchair]], [[Enemy to All Living Things|turning it into]] [[Walking Wasteland|a wasteland]]}}. He shows [[Moral Event Horizon|no]] [[Complete Monster|regard]] for any other lifeform in the pursuit of this goal. Unlike [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old|some other]] [[Immortality Seeker
** Which, unfortunately, does not keep him from being one of the most intimidating characters in the game, which should tell you something.
* There is a particularly suspicious one in Mardek Chapter 3. He is defined as [[Chaotic Evil]] in the game helper and [[Obviously Evil|literally looks evil]]. He's [[Evil Chancellor|the adviser of the king]] (who joins you) of the lizard village beneath the Sun Temple, leading to the Evil Black Temple, which gets you plot sooner or later.
* Tenpenny from ''[[Fallout 3]]'' is a wealthy, [[Affably Evil|amiable]] old man who wants you to nuke a nearby village ''because it's an eyesore''.
* ''[[Fallout: New Vegas]]'': The core game has [[Big Bad|Caesar]], and [[Black and Gray Morality|arguably]] [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|Mr. House]]. The ''Old World Blues'' DLC has the Think Tanks, who are former scientists who have outlived their bodies by transporting their brains into robots (though they're arguably more insane than truly evil). Finally, the ''Dead Money'' DLC has Father Elijah, who is very, ''[[Complete Monster|very]]'' evil.
* The Hag from ''[[Thief|Thief: Deadly Shadows]]'': a centuries-old [[Serial Killer]] who skins and murders people including ''children'' to [[Immoral Immortality|extend her own life]].
* The classic Evil Old Guy of video games would have to be [[Mega Man (video game)|Dr. Albert Wily]], an elderly [[Mad Scientist]] bent on world domination, with an army of robots at his command.
* ''[[Fate/stay night]]'' has Zouken Matou, a twisted, vile piece of work [[Complete Monster|hideous in both body and mind.]]
* [[Villain Protagonist]] Trevor Philips from ''[[Grand Theft Auto V]]''
** From the same game, the Altruist Cult a cult full of [[Evil Reactionary]]s made up of men from the "baby boomer" generation. They despise younger folks, believing them responsible for all the troubles in the world. They pay cash for "lost souls" (meaning the player can kidnap younger civilians and deliver them to the cult in exchange for money; the cult is implied to be cannibals, so these victims likely don't last long). {{spoiler|However, if Trevor delivers four victims, the cult turns on him, requiring a shootout between him and the cult.}}
== Web Comics ==
▲* Sarda from ''[[8-Bit Theater (Webcomic)|Eight Bit Theater]]''.
* Baron Klaus Wulfenbach of ''[[Girl Genius]]'' may have gray hair, but he rules his empire with an iron fist and isn't afraid to subject people to unethical experiments or lay waste to entire cities if he finds it necessary.
** [[Anti-Villain|He's only evil from a very superficial standpoint]], though; he's more about efficiency and doing it right, and is, in fact, a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]].<ref>Prior to becoming a hard-handed dictator, he, along with the Heterodyne boys, forged peace throughout Europa using diplomacy and nonviolence. After a brief leave of absence, he returned to discover that the Heterodyne boys had disappeared, and with them had gone the peace he'd worked so hard for. He reasoned that, if peace by diplomacy was so fleeting, peace by busting heads was going to be at least as permanent as he was.</ref>
* Xykon from ''[[The
== Western Animation ==
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** Agnes Skinner isn't as blatantly evil as Burns, but she's still a nasty old woman, [[My Beloved Smother|who treats Principal Skinner with condescension at best and open cruelty at worst]].
* Several [[Disney]] villains would qualify for this trope.
** On that note, [[Pixar]] seems to love this trope as well. {{spoiler|''[[Toy Story (franchise)|Toy Story]] 2'' had Pete, ''[[Monsters, Inc.]]'' had Waternoose, ''[[Up (animation)|Up]]'' had Muntz, and ''[[Toy Story (franchise)|Toy Story]] 3'' had Lotso}}.
* Grampa Marsh once rallied the elderly residents of ''[[South Park]]'' to conquer the town.
* Señor Senior, Sr., of ''[[Kim Possible]]'' came out of retirement to conquer the world.
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* ''[[Codename: Kids Next Door]]'' has the Senior Citizen Squad, a trio of old people that from time to time fight the main group. There's also [[Bigger Bad|Grandfather]] and his senior citizombies.
* An episode of ''[[The Powerpuff Girls]]'' involved "The Ministry of Pain", a supervillain team that used to terrorize Townsville but are now mostly harmless because they've become old and feeble. They're still as evil as ever, though, and the girls won't fight them because they're old...
* Female example- Nerissa, [[Big Bad]] from the second season of ''[[WITCH (animation)|WITCH]]'' is very old and looks even older due to her hard life and the rigors of her magic, and she's also a [[Knight Templar]] out to take over the universe as she thinks it's the only way to end all war and suffering. Of course, in the last third of the season she manages to get her youth back and becomes [[Evil Is Sexy|more another trope]].
* Mad Mod from ''[[Teen Titans (animation)|Teen Titans]]''.
* On an episode of ''[[The Flintstones]]'' there was Grandma Dynamite (or "Dina", as she called herself) a notorious bank robber and [[Mad Bomber]] who robbed the First, Second, Third, and Fourth National Banks with the aid of her accomplice grandson. Having to lay low, she discovered a certain married couple with a nondescript house were looking for a maid...
* Ed Bighead from ''[[Rocko's Modern Life]]'', In the Episode: "Zanzibar" Rocko and the populace of O-Town had the courage to convince Conglom-O to turn against Ed Bighead and the evil he's done to the environment.
* ''[[Invader Zim]]'': Ms. Bitters. True to her namesake, she's completely devoid of any compassionate emotion and possesses demonic hatred for all life on planet Earth.
* ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'': Fire Lord Azulon was canonically 95 years old when he ordered [[Complete Monster|Ozai]] to kill [[The Woobie|Zuko.]] He [[Mama Bear|never made it]] [[Beware the Nice Ones|to 96.]]
** Firelord Sozin died at the age of 102 after many years of prosecuting a war against the other nations. He was already this trope when he started said war.
** Old Lady Hama is a Water Bender who was captured and imprisoned by the Fire Nation and, along with dozens of others, kept locked in terrible conditions and away from water. She escaped when she realised that ''blood'' is water and she could manipulate it at the peak of her powers during a full moon, allowing her to seize control of a living person's body, which she used on the guards to escape. But she was still stuck in the Fire Nation so she set up shop as a kindly old innkeeper... and at the full moon used her new technique, which she called [[The Dark Arts|Bloodbending]], on the ordinary and innocent Fire Nation neighbours in revenge for her treatment.
* The Terror from ''[[The Tick (animation)]]'', a 100+ year old supervillain who used to be buddies with [[Joseph Stalin]]. [[Played for Laughs]] as he's, putting it mildly, gone a little bit senile with age (until his reappearance in the show, his last public appearance was in the 70's when he tried to get his revenge on his arch-enemy [[Teddy Roosevelt]] by ''punching out Mount Rushmore'').
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* Yzma, [[Evil Chancellor]] and [[Big Bad]] of ''[[The Emperor's New Groove]]''.
* From ''[[The Owl House]]'', Terra Snapdragon, head of the [[Green Thumb| Plant Coven]] and henchman of [[Big Bad|Emperor Belos]]. While her age isn't stated, she is clearly an old woman, and as far as "evil" goes, is more sadistic than most of the Belos' cronies.
* On ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'', C. Montgomery "Monty" Burns (Homer's boss) is the closest the series has to an overall [[Big Bad]]. A [[Corrupt Corporate Executive]] and greedy plutocrat who treats his employees like garbage<ref>Usually, he ''can'' be a [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold]] when the plot calls for it</ref>, his evil deeds would take far too long to list given the longevity of the series, but among those that stand out: blocking out the sun, obsessively pursuing Homer's mother for wrecking his research on biological warfare, building weapons for the Nazis (claiming he was better than Shindler because "mine worked, dammit!") and trying to murder Grandpa in order to win a [[Tontine]] contract.
** Of course, it's clear where he gets it from, as his grandfather Wainwright (whose first recorded crime was taking Monty away from his loving parents) was even worse in all regards, possibly influencing Monty as an [[Evil Mentor]].
* ''[[Family Guy]]''
** While nobody in this series can truly be called "good", Peter's father-in-law Carter Pewterschmidt is in a class by himself. A greedy billionaire and [[Corrupt Corporate Executive]] who hates everyone, including Peter (often ''especially'' Peter) the worst thing he's done is, without a doubt, refuse to release a cure for cancer on the market because existing treatments are more profitable. He also once tried to feed an attorney presenting him with a summons to a Rancor (due to Carner's bad luck, said attorney had Jedi training), and tries to shut down Rhode Island's state government in order to hide the fact that his factories are violating environmental regulations. He bribed his wife into marrying (is not a faithful spouse) and tried to bribe Peter into not marrying Lois. It is not unexpected that in the [[May the Farce Be with You|Star Wars parody]] he took the role of Emperor Palpatine.
** John Herbert; his name rhymes with "pervert", and he is both this and a pedophile, his age pretty much the only reason anyone finds him funny.
*** Although, [[Even Evil Has Standards| one decent thing]] Herbert did was confront and outfight Lieutenant Schlechtnacht, another example of this Trope and an unrepentant former Nazi; clearly Herbert was the lesser evil there.
** Peter's stepfather Francis was, if anything, as bad as Carl. A Catholic fundamentalist and intolerant bigot, he hated Lois simply because she was Protestant; on Peter's wedding day he went so far as to tape a sign saying "To A Protestant Whore" underneath the "Just Married" sign on back of the limo. He even accused the Pope of being an untrue Catholic for challenging these views. Everyone except Peter despised him, Lois and Brian dancing with joy when he died; not that this kept him from being a nuisance one more time, as he appeared in a vision to Peter, telling him he'd burn in Hell for attempting to embrace Judaism. Eventually, Peter is able to accept that his stepfather was a horrible man when Jesus himself appears, telling him and his family that there was no need to choose, claiming Catholisism and Judaism are [[Not So Different]] (stressing that he himself was a Jew) and also claiming that [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|''all'' organized religions are terrible.]]
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