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[[File:9_garland_8942.jpg|link=Final Fantasy IX (Video Game)|frame|Get off his lawn, or he'll [[Apocalypse How|suck the soul out of your]] ''[[Apocalypse How|planet]]''.]]
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== Anime and Manga ==
== Anime and Manga ==
* Enya Geil from ''[[Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure (Manga)|Jojo's Bizarre Adventure]]'' Part 3 is a cunning, ''nasty'' old woman who tries to get revenge on the heroes for killing her depraved psychopath of a son.
* Enya Geil from ''[[Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure|Jojo's Bizarre Adventure]]'' Part 3 is a cunning, ''nasty'' old woman who tries to get revenge on the heroes for killing her depraved psychopath of a son.
** [[Abusive Parents|Dario Brando]], father of [[Big Bad|Dio Brando]] is also an example. He was a wife-beating self-centered drunk who tormented Dio as a child and the largest contributing factor to Dio's [[Complete Monster]] personality. Perhaps everything could have been avoided had Dario just been a little nicer to his son...
** [[Abusive Parents|Dario Brando]], father of [[Big Bad|Dio Brando]] is also an example. He was a wife-beating self-centered drunk who tormented Dio as a child and the largest contributing factor to Dio's [[Complete Monster]] personality. Perhaps everything could have been avoided had Dario just been a little nicer to his son...
* Danzou from ''[[Naruto]]'', who is tied with Homura, Koharu, and [[Big Good|The Third Hokage]] for being the oldest known person in the Leaf Village. One word: {{spoiler|Sharingarm.}}
* Danzou from ''[[Naruto]]'', who is tied with Homura, Koharu, and [[Big Good|The Third Hokage]] for being the oldest known person in the Leaf Village. One word: {{spoiler|Sharingarm.}}
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** Meanwhile in canon, {{spoiler|the second Espada, Barragan}} is this trope incarnate. Of the ten Espada, each of whom embodies an aspect of death, he is the one who represents "death by old age."
** Meanwhile in canon, {{spoiler|the second Espada, Barragan}} is this trope incarnate. Of the ten Espada, each of whom embodies an aspect of death, he is the one who represents "death by old age."
* ''[[Gash Bell]]'' has a [[Filler Villain]] named Dr. Ichiro (Dr. Hakase in the dub) who wants to use his demon to get his revenge on the scientific community for mocking his ideas. And from there? [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8u7px_GzWQ Take over the world].
* ''[[Gash Bell]]'' has a [[Filler Villain]] named Dr. Ichiro (Dr. Hakase in the dub) who wants to use his demon to get his revenge on the scientific community for mocking his ideas. And from there? [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8u7px_GzWQ Take over the world].
* Kagemaru from the first season of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh GX]]'' is so old he has to live in a giant tube with robotic arms. Of course, that all changes once he draws life force from other cards thanks to the Sangenma.
* Kagemaru from the first season of ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]]'' is so old he has to live in a giant tube with robotic arms. Of course, that all changes once he draws life force from other cards thanks to the Sangenma.
* Dr. Gero from ''[[Dragonball]] Z/GT''.
* Dr. Gero from ''[[Dragon Ball]] Z/GT''.
** In the earlier ''[[Dragonball]]'', Piccolo Daimao originally looked ancient and wrinkled like an old prune. This didn't stop him from [[Curb Stomp Battle|completely dominating]] Goku in their first encounter; when he got his youth back thanks to the Dragon Balls, well, [[It Got Worse]].
** In the earlier ''[[Dragon Ball]]'', Piccolo Daimao originally looked ancient and wrinkled like an old prune. This didn't stop him from [[Curb Stomp Battle|completely dominating]] Goku in their first encounter; when he got his youth back thanks to the Dragon Balls, well, [[It Got Worse]].
* Szilard Quates of ''[[Baccano (Light Novel)|Baccano]]!''. Evil deeds including but not limited to betraying a shipload of people who trusted him, enslaving a [[Our Homunculi Are Different|homunculus]] of his creation on pain of death, and "[[You Will Be Assimilated|devouring]]" people's minds left and right to increase his own knowledge. Possibly lampshaded in that he once rationalizes some of his behavior by noting his distrust of young people. Quates' [[Battle Butler]] notes that he is quite likely the oldest person on earth (which means that he distrusts/will do badly by ''everyone else'').
* Szilard Quates of ''[[Baccano]]!''. Evil deeds including but not limited to betraying a shipload of people who trusted him, enslaving a [[Our Homunculi Are Different|homunculus]] of his creation on pain of death, and "[[You Will Be Assimilated|devouring]]" people's minds left and right to increase his own knowledge. Possibly lampshaded in that he once rationalizes some of his behavior by noting his distrust of young people. Quates' [[Battle Butler]] notes that he is quite likely the oldest person on earth (which means that he distrusts/will do badly by ''everyone else'').
* For the first three arcs of ''[[Umineko no Naku Koro Ni]]'', Kinzo isn't portrayed quite so much as evil as he is [[Love Makes You Crazy|crazy]] and [[Evil Is Not a Toy|desperate]]. Then comes the fourth arc, and he definitely [[Love Makes You Evil|crosses that boundary]]. {{spoiler|By the end of the arc, though, it's subverted, since Kinzo was dead the entire time}}.
* For the first three arcs of ''[[Umineko no Naku Koro ni]]'', Kinzo isn't portrayed quite so much as evil as he is [[Love Makes You Crazy|crazy]] and [[Evil Is Not a Toy|desperate]]. Then comes the fourth arc, and he definitely [[Love Makes You Evil|crosses that boundary]]. {{spoiler|By the end of the arc, though, it's subverted, since Kinzo was dead the entire time}}.
* In ''[[The Tower of Druaga (Anime)|The Tower of Druaga]]: The Sword of Uruk'', we learn that {{spoiler|King Gilgamesh is immortal, as his mortal self was sealed atop the tower. As he grows older, his heart grows colder, until he becomes a cold-blooded tyrant who slaughters his own citizens.}}
* In ''[[The Tower of Druaga (anime)|The Tower of Druaga]]: The Sword of Uruk'', we learn that {{spoiler|King Gilgamesh is immortal, as his mortal self was sealed atop the tower. As he grows older, his heart grows colder, until he becomes a cold-blooded tyrant who slaughters his own citizens.}}
* Mikado of ''[[Hayate the Combat Butler (Manga)|Hayate the Combat Butler]]''. Nagi's grandfather, targetted the Power of the Gods prior to the story started, and messed with Hayate growing up {{spoiler|as Santa!}} Perverted as well.
* Mikado of ''[[Hayate the Combat Butler]]''. Nagi's grandfather, targetted the Power of the Gods prior to the story started, and messed with Hayate growing up {{spoiler|as Santa!}} Perverted as well.
* ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]'''s [[Big Bad]] is {{spoiler|Albert Maverick}}, who seems so nice in the first half of the series...until we learn [[Manipulative Bastard|what he's really like]]. Eventually picks up the [[Villain Ball]] and runs with it.
* ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]'''s [[Big Bad]] is {{spoiler|Albert Maverick}}, who seems so nice in the first half of the series...until we learn [[Manipulative Bastard|what he's really like]]. Eventually picks up the [[Villain Ball]] and runs with it.
* Vamp of Florsheim from ''[[Tentai Senshi Sunred (Manga)|Tentai Senshi Sunred]]'' looks and acts like a fuzzy old man and has the goal of [[World Domination]], right after he crushes his [[Arch Enemy]] Sunred. Of course, fortunately for the world, he ''is'' a fuzzy old man and [[Harmless Villain|about as 'evil' as a boot]]; Sunred won't even fight him directly because he'd look like someone bullying the elderly if he did.
* Vamp of Florsheim from ''[[Tentai Senshi Sunred]]'' looks and acts like a fuzzy old man and has the goal of [[World Domination]], right after he crushes his [[Arch Enemy]] Sunred. Of course, fortunately for the world, he ''is'' a fuzzy old man and [[Harmless Villain|about as 'evil' as a boot]]; Sunred won't even fight him directly because he'd look like someone bullying the elderly if he did.




== Comicbooks ==
== Comicbooks ==
* [[Spider Man|Spider-Man]] has several in his [[Rogues Gallery]]. The most famous is probably the Vulture, who briefly possessed the ability to [[Liquid Assets|steal the youth of others]], but the webhead has also had trouble from [[Gadgeteer Genius|The Tinkerer]] and elderly crimeboss Silvermane.
* [[Spider-Man]] has several in his [[Rogues Gallery]]. The most famous is probably the Vulture, who briefly possessed the ability to [[Liquid Assets|steal the youth of others]], but the webhead has also had trouble from [[Gadgeteer Genius|The Tinkerer]] and elderly crimeboss Silvermane.
* [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Frau Totenkinder]] from ''[[Fables (Comic Book)|Fables]]''. She may look like a frail old woman {{spoiler|though she could easily undo her aging if she wished}}, but she is every unnamed witch in fairy tales; meaning she is one of the most powerful Fables alive. While she is firmly aligned with Fabletown, even a cursory glance into her past will reveal that she was(is?) ''not'' a good person. She even fought [[Baba Yaga]] at one point and, in a rather [[Eviler Than Thou]] manner, defeated her.
* [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Frau Totenkinder]] from ''[[Fables (Comic Book)|Fables]]''. She may look like a frail old woman {{spoiler|though she could easily undo her aging if she wished}}, but she is every unnamed witch in fairy tales; meaning she is one of the most powerful Fables alive. While she is firmly aligned with Fabletown, even a cursory glance into her past will reveal that she was(is?) ''not'' a good person. She even fought [[Baba Yaga]] at one point and, in a rather [[Eviler Than Thou]] manner, defeated her.
* [[Shazam|Captain Marvel, Jr]]. fought a villain named Greybeard a couple of times. Sentenced to 99 years in prison when he was a young man, Greybeard served his entire sentence. On his release, he became a supervillain, basing his crimes around the theme of age, to take revenege on a world that had passed him by.
* [[Shazam|Captain Marvel, Jr]]. fought a villain named Greybeard a couple of times. Sentenced to 99 years in prison when he was a young man, Greybeard served his entire sentence. On his release, he became a supervillain, basing his crimes around the theme of age, to take revenege on a world that had passed him by.
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* [[DC Comics]] villains Granny Goodness and DeSaad, [[New Gods]] and minions of [[Darkseid]]. Interestingly, both are actually ''younger'' than their master, who doesn't quite fit the trope himself; it may have something to do with his personal power being far greater than theirs.
* [[DC Comics]] villains Granny Goodness and DeSaad, [[New Gods]] and minions of [[Darkseid]]. Interestingly, both are actually ''younger'' than their master, who doesn't quite fit the trope himself; it may have something to do with his personal power being far greater than theirs.
* [[Sin City]] has the Roarke brothers who are powerful politicians who run crime in the city and harbor [[Serial Killers]]. Both of them are easily in their sixties or older. There is also the short story entitled ''Rats'' about a retired Nazi war criminal.
* [[Sin City]] has the Roarke brothers who are powerful politicians who run crime in the city and harbor [[Serial Killers]]. Both of them are easily in their sixties or older. There is also the short story entitled ''Rats'' about a retired Nazi war criminal.
* In ''[[All Fall Down (Comic Book)|All Fall Down]]'', IQ lives in a squalid retirement home and has not lost an inch of his hate for the good guys.
* In ''[[All Fall Down]]'', IQ lives in a squalid retirement home and has not lost an inch of his hate for the good guys.




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** [[Fat Bastard|Jabba the Hutt]], being 600 years old. He is an example, but not an extreme one. Hutts typically live 10 times longer than humans.
** [[Fat Bastard|Jabba the Hutt]], being 600 years old. He is an example, but not an extreme one. Hutts typically live 10 times longer than humans.
** Count Dooku from the prequels, who looks more like a dignified elderly statesman than a terrible Sith Lord. In fact, most of [[Christopher Lee]]'s roles from the past few decades likely count.
** Count Dooku from the prequels, who looks more like a dignified elderly statesman than a terrible Sith Lord. In fact, most of [[Christopher Lee]]'s roles from the past few decades likely count.
* {{spoiler|Obadiah Stane}} from ''[[Iron Man (Film)|Iron Man]]'' is relatively old, {{spoiler|having been in charge of Stark Industries when Tony was a teenager}}, and is certainly not a nice guy. At least, if {{spoiler|selling weapons to terrorists then attempting to kill Tony and go on a rampage with his own giant suit}} is any indication.
* {{spoiler|Obadiah Stane}} from ''[[Iron Man (film)|Iron Man]]'' is relatively old, {{spoiler|having been in charge of Stark Industries when Tony was a teenager}}, and is certainly not a nice guy. At least, if {{spoiler|selling weapons to terrorists then attempting to kill Tony and go on a rampage with his own giant suit}} is any indication.
* {{spoiler|Every character past middle age}} in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]''. Except, strangely, [[Bill Nighy]].
* {{spoiler|Every character past middle age}} in ''[[Hot Fuzz]]''. Except, strangely, [[Bill Nighy]].
* Most of the Satanists seen in ''[[Rosemarys Baby]]'' are old. For this reason, Rosemary holds a party for young adults only.
* Most of the Satanists seen in ''[[Rosemary's Baby]]'' are old. For this reason, Rosemary holds a party for young adults only.
* [[London Gangster|Wilson]], [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|Terry Valentine]], and [[The Dragon|Avery]] in ''[[The Limey]]''.
* [[London Gangster|Wilson]], [[Corrupt Corporate Executive|Terry Valentine]], and [[The Dragon|Avery]] in ''[[The Limey]]''.
* R.J. Fletcher from ''[[UHF (Film)|UHF]]''.
* R.J. Fletcher from ''[[UHF]]''.
* Howard Beale from ''[[Network]]''
* Howard Beale from ''[[Network]]''
* [[Complete Monster|Brick Top]] from [[Snatch]].
* [[Complete Monster|Brick Top]] from [[Snatch]].
* Momma from ''[[Throw Momma From the Train]]''
* Momma from ''[[Throw Momma from the Train]]''
{{quote| '''Larry Donner:''' She's not a woman-- she's the [[Terminator]]!!!}}
{{quote| '''Larry Donner:''' She's not a woman-- she's the [[Terminator]]!!!}}
* Judge Smails from ''[[Caddyshack]]''
* Judge Smails from ''[[Caddyshack]]''
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** "Amy's Choice" has a retirement home full of evil pensioners taken over by a race of aliens. {{spoiler|However, that was a dream.}}
** "Amy's Choice" has a retirement home full of evil pensioners taken over by a race of aliens. {{spoiler|However, that was a dream.}}
* ''[[The Colbert Report]]'', in the January 21 2010 episode, lists "Old People" on the Threat Down, due to all the old folks who go on airplanes with [[Sword Cane|swords and knives hidden in their canes]].
* ''[[The Colbert Report]]'', in the January 21 2010 episode, lists "Old People" on the Threat Down, due to all the old folks who go on airplanes with [[Sword Cane|swords and knives hidden in their canes]].
* In ''[[Todd and The Book of Pure Evil]]'', it is revealed that virtually all of the residents of the Crowley Heights retirement home are Satanists. Considering they were keeping a man captive and drugged, it qualifies for this trope.
* In ''[[Todd and the Book of Pure Evil]]'', it is revealed that virtually all of the residents of the Crowley Heights retirement home are Satanists. Considering they were keeping a man captive and drugged, it qualifies for this trope.
* Tubbs and Edward from ''[[The League of Gentlemen]]'', who torture and sometimes kill any non-locals who intrude on their shop.
* Tubbs and Edward from ''[[The League of Gentlemen]]'', who torture and sometimes kill any non-locals who intrude on their shop.
* A few UnSubs of ''[[Criminal Minds (TV)|Criminal Minds]]'' fall into this category, but Anita and Roger Roycewood from "Mosley Lane" stand out the most.
* A few UnSubs of ''[[Criminal Minds]]'' fall into this category, but Anita and Roger Roycewood from "Mosley Lane" stand out the most.
* Granny Goodness on ''[[Smallville (TV)|Smallville]]'' combines this with [[Straight Edge Evil]] and [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing]] for genuinely frightening results.
* Granny Goodness on ''[[Smallville]]'' combines this with [[Straight Edge Evil]] and [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing]] for genuinely frightening results.
* In ''[[Cutey Honey the Live]],'' the nice old lady who owns a fish shop {{spoiler|is one of Panther Claw's highest ranking generals. Get in her way and she will bludgeon you to death, cut you up with frozen food, or just use the ''missile launchers built into her stomach.'' But however she kills you, she'll do it without losing her kind, motherly demeanor for a second.}}
* In ''[[Cutey Honey the Live]],'' the nice old lady who owns a fish shop {{spoiler|is one of Panther Claw's highest ranking generals. Get in her way and she will bludgeon you to death, cut you up with frozen food, or just use the ''missile launchers built into her stomach.'' But however she kills you, she'll do it without losing her kind, motherly demeanor for a second.}}
* Daniel Linderman and Arthur Petrelli, the [[Big Bad|Big Bads]] of Volumes One and Three of ''[[Heroes]]'', are both in their sixties. In fact, they were Army buddies during the [[Vietnam War]] before becoming [[Fallen Hero|Fallen Heroes]].
* Daniel Linderman and Arthur Petrelli, the [[Big Bad|Big Bads]] of Volumes One and Three of ''[[Heroes]]'', are both in their sixties. In fact, they were Army buddies during the [[Vietnam War]] before becoming [[Fallen Hero|Fallen Heroes]].
* On ''[[Leverage (TV)|Leverage]]'', Nate's dad Jimmy is an aging member of [[The Irish Mob]] who, having lost his former position of influence in the Boston underworld during a long prison term, is scheming to get it back.
* On ''[[Leverage]]'', Nate's dad Jimmy is an aging member of [[The Irish Mob]] who, having lost his former position of influence in the Boston underworld during a long prison term, is scheming to get it back.




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* What about {{spoiler|Flemeth}} from ''[[Dragon Age]]: Origins''? Old and evil and very powerful, and only seemingly [[Retired Monster|retired]].
* What about {{spoiler|Flemeth}} from ''[[Dragon Age]]: Origins''? Old and evil and very powerful, and only seemingly [[Retired Monster|retired]].
* Master Xehanort from [[Kingdom Hearts]]: [[Birth By Sleep]].
* Master Xehanort from [[Kingdom Hearts]]: [[Birth By Sleep]].
* Charon from ''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (Video Game)|Pokémon Platinum]]''. Doesn't help matters any that he's the oldest Galactic member by at least thirty years.
* Charon from ''[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Pokémon Platinum]]''. Doesn't help matters any that he's the oldest Galactic member by at least thirty years.
** {{spoiler|The Societea}} from ''[[Pokémon Ranger (Video Game)|Pokémon Ranger]]: Guardian Signs'' is composed of four really old [[Retired Outlaw|retired]] [[Phantom Thief|thiefs]]; fittingly, their primary goal is [[Immortality]].
** {{spoiler|The Societea}} from ''[[Pokémon Ranger]]: Guardian Signs'' is composed of four really old [[Retired Outlaw|retired]] [[Phantom Thief|thiefs]]; fittingly, their primary goal is [[Immortality]].
** Also, we have {{spoiler|Greevil, second-generation [[Complete Monster|Cipher Grand Master]]}} from ''[[Pokémon Colosseum|Pokemon XD]]''.
** Also, we have {{spoiler|Greevil, second-generation [[Complete Monster|Cipher Grand Master]]}} from ''[[Pokémon Colosseum|Pokemon XD]]''.
* {{spoiler|Primarch Galenth Dysley}} from ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]''. {{spoiler|He's ''really'' old too, being an immortal robot god.}}
* {{spoiler|Primarch Galenth Dysley}} from ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]''. {{spoiler|He's ''really'' old too, being an immortal robot god.}}
* Some of the Templars in ''[[Assassin's Creed II (Video Game)|Assassin's Creed II]]''. The first game had {{spoiler|Al-Mualim}}.
* Some of the Templars in ''[[Assassin's Creed II]]''. The first game had {{spoiler|Al-Mualim}}.
* Ozwell Spencer of the ''[[Resident Evil]]'' series fulfills this trope when he finally makes an appearance in ''Resident Evil 5''.
* Ozwell Spencer of the ''[[Resident Evil]]'' series fulfills this trope when he finally makes an appearance in ''Resident Evil 5''.
* Mr. James Wong of ''[[Stranglehold]]''.
* Mr. James Wong of ''[[Stranglehold]]''.
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* There is a particularly suspicious one in Mardek Chapter 3. He is defined as [[Chaotic Evil]] in the game helper and [[Obviously Evil|literally looks evil]]. He's [[Evil Chancellor|the adviser of the king]] (who joins you) of the lizard village beneath the Sun Temple, leading to the Evil Black Temple, which gets you plot sooner or later.
* There is a particularly suspicious one in Mardek Chapter 3. He is defined as [[Chaotic Evil]] in the game helper and [[Obviously Evil|literally looks evil]]. He's [[Evil Chancellor|the adviser of the king]] (who joins you) of the lizard village beneath the Sun Temple, leading to the Evil Black Temple, which gets you plot sooner or later.
* Tenpenny from ''[[Fallout 3]]'' is a wealthy, [[Affably Evil|amiable]] old man who wants you to nuke a nearby village ''because it's an eyesore''.
* Tenpenny from ''[[Fallout 3]]'' is a wealthy, [[Affably Evil|amiable]] old man who wants you to nuke a nearby village ''because it's an eyesore''.
* [[Fallout New Vegas]]: The core game has [[Big Bad|Caesar]], and [[Black and Gray Morality|arguably]] [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|Mr. House]]. The ''Old World Blues'' DLC has the Think Tanks, who are former scientists who have outlived their bodies by transporting their brains into robots (though they're arguably more insane than truly evil). Finally, the ''Dead Money'' DLC has Father Elijah, who is very, ''[[Complete Monster|very]]'' evil.
* [[Fallout: New Vegas]]: The core game has [[Big Bad|Caesar]], and [[Black and Gray Morality|arguably]] [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|Mr. House]]. The ''Old World Blues'' DLC has the Think Tanks, who are former scientists who have outlived their bodies by transporting their brains into robots (though they're arguably more insane than truly evil). Finally, the ''Dead Money'' DLC has Father Elijah, who is very, ''[[Complete Monster|very]]'' evil.
* The Hag from ''[[Thief|Thief: Deadly Shadows]]'': a centuries-old [[Serial Killer]] who skins and murders people including ''children'' to [[Immoral Immortality|extend her own life]].
* The Hag from ''[[Thief|Thief: Deadly Shadows]]'': a centuries-old [[Serial Killer]] who skins and murders people including ''children'' to [[Immoral Immortality|extend her own life]].
* The classic Evil Old Guy of video games would have to be [[Mega Man (Video Game)|Dr. Albert Wily]], an elderly [[Mad Scientist]] bent on world domination, with an army of robots at his command.
* The classic Evil Old Guy of video games would have to be [[Mega Man (video game)|Dr. Albert Wily]], an elderly [[Mad Scientist]] bent on world domination, with an army of robots at his command.
* [[Fate Stay Night]] has Zouken Matou, a twisted, vile piece of work [[Complete Monster|hideous in both body and mind.]]
* [[Fate/stay night]] has Zouken Matou, a twisted, vile piece of work [[Complete Monster|hideous in both body and mind.]]




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* Baron Klaus Wulfenbach of ''[[Girl Genius]]'' may have gray hair, but he rules his empire with an iron fist and isn't afraid to subject people to unethical experiments or lay waste to entire cities if he finds it necessary.
* Baron Klaus Wulfenbach of ''[[Girl Genius]]'' may have gray hair, but he rules his empire with an iron fist and isn't afraid to subject people to unethical experiments or lay waste to entire cities if he finds it necessary.
** [[Anti-Villain|He's only evil from a very superficial standpoint]], though; he's more about efficiency and doing it right, and is, in fact, a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]]<ref>Prior to becoming a hard-handed dictator, he, along with the Heterodyne boys, forged peace throughout Europa using diplomacy and nonviolence. After a brief leave of absence, he returned to discover that the Heterodyne boys had disappeared, and with them had gone the peace he'd worked so hard for. He reasoned that, if peace by diplomacy was so fleeting, peace by busting heads was going to be at least as permanent as he was.</ref>. His ruling style (and official mission statement) is "Don't make me come over there", and the local lords and mad scientists are largely left alone provided they don't break any rules; he's also very supportive of the arts and the sciences, and sponsors many young geniuses from noble families (even if his sponsorship does double as the taking of a hostage to keep said families in line).
** [[Anti-Villain|He's only evil from a very superficial standpoint]], though; he's more about efficiency and doing it right, and is, in fact, a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]]<ref>Prior to becoming a hard-handed dictator, he, along with the Heterodyne boys, forged peace throughout Europa using diplomacy and nonviolence. After a brief leave of absence, he returned to discover that the Heterodyne boys had disappeared, and with them had gone the peace he'd worked so hard for. He reasoned that, if peace by diplomacy was so fleeting, peace by busting heads was going to be at least as permanent as he was.</ref>. His ruling style (and official mission statement) is "Don't make me come over there", and the local lords and mad scientists are largely left alone provided they don't break any rules; he's also very supportive of the arts and the sciences, and sponsors many young geniuses from noble families (even if his sponsorship does double as the taking of a hostage to keep said families in line).
* Xykon from ''[[Order of the Stick (Webcomic)|Order of the Stick]]'' wasn't always a [[Our Liches Are Different|lich]]. Before he transformed, he was already 80 years old, yet he was still a strong enough sorcerer to wipe out a squad of paladins without any of them touching him.
* Xykon from ''[[The Order of the Stick|Order of the Stick]]'' wasn't always a [[Our Liches Are Different|lich]]. Before he transformed, he was already 80 years old, yet he was still a strong enough sorcerer to wipe out a squad of paladins without any of them touching him.




== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
* Mom from ''[[Futurama]]'' is a prime example. Despite [[Villain With Good Publicity|presenting herself as a loving, motherly figure]], she hates pretty much everyone and everything, and has actually [[Turned Against Their Masters|sent every robot in the world on a revolution against humans]] so that they could conquer the world for her.
* Mom from ''[[Futurama]]'' is a prime example. Despite [[Villain with Good Publicity|presenting herself as a loving, motherly figure]], she hates pretty much everyone and everything, and has actually [[Turned Against Their Masters|sent every robot in the world on a revolution against humans]] so that they could conquer the world for her.
* And along that vein, we also have Mr. Burns from ''[[The Simpsons]]'', who could qualify as the [[Trope Codifier]] for the comedic version. He's done pretty much every evil deed imaginable, from blotting out the sun to stealing candy from a baby, and that was just in one episode.
* And along that vein, we also have Mr. Burns from ''[[The Simpsons]]'', who could qualify as the [[Trope Codifier]] for the comedic version. He's done pretty much every evil deed imaginable, from blotting out the sun to stealing candy from a baby, and that was just in one episode.
** Agnes Skinner isn't as blatantly evil as Burns, but she's still a nasty old woman, [[My Beloved Smother|who treats Principal Skinner with condescension at best and open cruelty at worst]].
** Agnes Skinner isn't as blatantly evil as Burns, but she's still a nasty old woman, [[My Beloved Smother|who treats Principal Skinner with condescension at best and open cruelty at worst]].
* Several [[Disney]] villains would qualify for this trope.
* Several [[Disney]] villains would qualify for this trope.
** On that note, [[Pixar]] seems to love this trope as well. {{spoiler|''[[Toy Story]] 2'' had Pete, ''[[Monsters Inc.|Monsters, Inc.]]'' had Waternoose, ''[[Up (Film)|Up]]'' had Muntz, and ''[[Toy Story]] 3'' had Lotso}}.
** On that note, [[Pixar]] seems to love this trope as well. {{spoiler|''[[Toy Story]] 2'' had Pete, ''[[Monsters, Inc.]]'' had Waternoose, ''[[Up (animation)|Up]]'' had Muntz, and ''[[Toy Story]] 3'' had Lotso}}.
* Grampa Marsh once rallied the elderly residents of ''[[South Park]]'' to conquer the town.
* Grampa Marsh once rallied the elderly residents of ''[[South Park]]'' to conquer the town.
* Señor Senior, Sr., of ''[[Kim Possible]]'' came out of retirement to conquer the world.
* Señor Senior, Sr., of ''[[Kim Possible]]'' came out of retirement to conquer the world.
* Mumm-Ra of ''[[Thundercats (Animation)|ThunderCats]]'' and ''[[Thundercats 2011 (Western Animation)|ThunderCats (2011)]]'' appears both elderly and undead when he's powered down.
* Mumm-Ra of ''[[Thundercats]]'' and ''[[Thundercats 2011|ThunderCats (2011)]]'' appears both elderly and undead when he's powered down.
* ''[[Codename Kids Next Door]]'' has the Senior Citizen Squad, a trio of old people that from time to time fight the main group. There's also [[Bigger Bad|Grandfather]] and his senior citizombies.
* ''[[Codename: Kids Next Door]]'' has the Senior Citizen Squad, a trio of old people that from time to time fight the main group. There's also [[Bigger Bad|Grandfather]] and his senior citizombies.
* An episode of ''[[The Powerpuff Girls]]'' involved "The Ministry of Pain", a supervillain team that used to terrorize Townsville but are now mostly harmless because they've become old and feeble. They're still as evil as ever, though, and the girls won't fight them because they're old...
* An episode of ''[[The Powerpuff Girls]]'' involved "The Ministry of Pain", a supervillain team that used to terrorize Townsville but are now mostly harmless because they've become old and feeble. They're still as evil as ever, though, and the girls won't fight them because they're old...
* Female example- Nerissa, [[Big Bad]] from the second season of ''[[WITCH (Animation)|WITCH]]'' is very old and looks even older due to her hard life and the rigors of her magic, and she's also a [[Knight Templar]] out to take over the universe as she thinks it's the only way to end all war and suffering. Of course, in the last third of the season she manages to get her youth back and becomes [[Evil Is Sexy|more another trope]].
* Female example- Nerissa, [[Big Bad]] from the second season of ''[[WITCH (animation)|WITCH]]'' is very old and looks even older due to her hard life and the rigors of her magic, and she's also a [[Knight Templar]] out to take over the universe as she thinks it's the only way to end all war and suffering. Of course, in the last third of the season she manages to get her youth back and becomes [[Evil Is Sexy|more another trope]].
* Mad Mod from ''[[Teen Titans (Animation)|Teen Titans]]''.
* Mad Mod from ''[[Teen Titans (animation)|Teen Titans]]''.
* Ed Bighead from ''[[Rocko's Modern Life]]'', In the Episode: "Zanzibar" Rocko and the populace of O-Town had the courage to convince Conglom-O to turn against Ed Bighead and the evil he's done to the environment.
* Ed Bighead from ''[[Rocko's Modern Life]]'', In the Episode: "Zanzibar" Rocko and the populace of O-Town had the courage to convince Conglom-O to turn against Ed Bighead and the evil he's done to the environment.
* ''[[Invader Zim]]'': Ms. Bitters. True to her namesake, she's completely devoid of any compassionate emotion and possesses demonic hatred for all life on planet Earth.
* ''[[Invader Zim]]'': Ms. Bitters. True to her namesake, she's completely devoid of any compassionate emotion and possesses demonic hatred for all life on planet Earth.
* ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'': Fire Lord Azulon was canonically 95 years old when he ordered [[Complete Monster|Ozai]] to kill [[The Woobie|Zuko.]] He [[Mama Bear|never made it]] [[Beware the Nice Ones|to 96.]]
* ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'': Fire Lord Azulon was canonically 95 years old when he ordered [[Complete Monster|Ozai]] to kill [[The Woobie|Zuko.]] He [[Mama Bear|never made it]] [[Beware the Nice Ones|to 96.]]
** Firelord Sozin died at the age of 102 after many years of prosecuting a war against the other nations. He was already this trope when he started said war.
** Firelord Sozin died at the age of 102 after many years of prosecuting a war against the other nations. He was already this trope when he started said war.
** Old Lady Hama is a Water Bender who was captured and imprisoned by the Fire Nation and, along with dozens of others, kept locked in terrible conditions and away from water. She escaped when she realised that ''blood'' is water and she could manipulate it at the peak of her powers during a full moon, allowing her to seize control of a living person's body, which she used on the guards to escape. But she was still stuck in the Fire Nation so she set up shop as a kindly old innkeeper... and at the full moon used her new technique, which she called [[The Dark Arts|Bloodbending]], on the ordinary and innocent Fire Nation neighbours in revenge for her treatment.
** Old Lady Hama is a Water Bender who was captured and imprisoned by the Fire Nation and, along with dozens of others, kept locked in terrible conditions and away from water. She escaped when she realised that ''blood'' is water and she could manipulate it at the peak of her powers during a full moon, allowing her to seize control of a living person's body, which she used on the guards to escape. But she was still stuck in the Fire Nation so she set up shop as a kindly old innkeeper... and at the full moon used her new technique, which she called [[The Dark Arts|Bloodbending]], on the ordinary and innocent Fire Nation neighbours in revenge for her treatment.