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** Lloyd and Linus. You fight one before the other, the first one is always misled into thinking you're a gang of corrupt nobles and evil people (Who the Black Fang was originally founded to combat) but upon finding out you aren't, begin to question the leadership of the black fang, and refuse to fight you through underhanded methods and do ''not'' want to hurt any non-combatants. They don't join you because they had to do some thinking, but {{spoiler|are killed by Limstella for their quintessence}}. The other is similarly misled because they think [[You Killed My Father|you killed their brother]]. If you especially want this trope, have Nino attack them...
*** {{spoiler|Their morphs in the last chapter}} just make things even worse.
* [[Best Level Ever]]: "Cog Of Destiny" (Chapter 27/29 from ''The Blazing SwordBlade'') is generally and genuinely regarded as one of the most intense, challenging, and ''goddamned'' '''''fun''''' chapters ever programmed into a [[Fire Emblem]] game. The difficulty level earns a lot of respect for forcing many gamers to take genuine tactical measures, and the story elements introduced and/or developed during the chapter don't hurt, either.
* [[Character Tiers]]: Hard mode and Hector Hard Mode bonuses (Characters that start as enemies in 6's hard mode and 7's Hector Hard Mode gain the same random stats boosts that enemies have) cause interesting and notable shifts in the tiers.
* [[Cliché Storm]]: ''Fire Emblem: 6The Binding Blade''. Evil empire invading the land, the emperor turns out to be a [[Disc One Final Boss]] with darker forces at work. Hmmm... Fire emblem 7, however, did its utmost to avert this.
** Then again though, a [[Cliché Storm]] plot like this may be a [[Necessary Weasel]] for a ''strategy'' game to work; as there always ''must'' be a war.
* [[Complete Monster]]: LundgrnLundgren, Ephidel, Sonia, and Desmond are all in this trope's territory.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Batta The Beast and Glass are two minor easy bosses, made into [[Memetic Badass|Memetic Badasses]] by the fanbase. Denning is a boss with [[Broken Record|literally one line]].
** On the heroes' side, Canas and Nino both ranked ''very'' high in the popularity polls. {{spoiler|Can't be a coincidence that they're ''related'', can it?}}
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** Actually, Arenas can be used in a physical cartridge...if you don't mind ruining your tactician rating because you can't [[Save Scumming|save scum]] as easily.
*** Even in-game, there's a trick involving Rescuing and Ninian's rings that makes Arenas a bit more of a potential [[Game Breaker]]... Though it will still ruin your tactics score.
* [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff]]: Not as much as the [[Fire Emblem Jugdral|Jugdral]] series, but it does have some popularity in the west due to the fact this is the first Fire Emblem series the western gamers are officially exposed to. As a result; [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny|a lot had become spoiled when Shadow dragonDragon came around.]]
** The Elibe saga is also arguably the most popular fireFire emblemEmblem gamegames to ROM-hackers. The fact that there exist more tools for hacking the Game Boy Advance games (specifically the Elibe games) should pretty much show that.
* [[Memetic Badass]]: Batta the Beast and Glass of course but Marcus is seen as the [[Chuck Norris]] of [[FE 7]] among the fandom.
* [[Mind Game Ship]]: The majority of Legault's supports indicate he likes messing with heads as much as he might like his support partner.
* [[That One Level]]: Chapter 21 in SwordThe ofBinding SealsBlade. Reinforcements arrive every turn for 12 turns, almost all of them in a group of three wyvern riders and one wyvern lord. Also, the boss of the level is incredibly hard if the units brought are not experienced enough. To make things worse, you must finish this within 30 turns, or you cannot go to Chapter 21X and obtain the Apocalypse dark tome necessary for the Good Ending.
** Battle Before Dawn in The Blazing SwordBlade. [[Luck-Based Mission]], [[Escort Mission]], Ursula's GODDAMNED BOLTING, and [[Fog of War]], which this troper maintains is the stupidest strategy game mechanic EVER.
** In addition, Hector Mode throws in fighters wielding Swordreavers to take out Jaffar. The damn mission shifts to luck as to whether or not you're keeping Jaffar alive until the end of the chapter.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: The reaction to the magic triangle's change from fire, wind, and thunder to anima, light, and dark. Oddly, [[Older Than They Think|this happens in reverse when the 9th game returned to the original triangle]].
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* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: Haughty, childish, blunt... and very pitiful once you know her backstory.
* [[The Scrappy]]: An in-universe example, even.
** [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap]]: For those who get certain supports, she becomes a ''much'' more likeable character once her past is revealed. Especially her supports with [[Tear Jerker|Hector, Oswin, and Lucius]]... The fanbase also used to hate her in the old days, but she is much more well-received now.
 
'''Erk'''
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'''Marcus'''
* [[Tier-Induced Scrappy]], though not as much as in ''SwordThe ofBinding SealsBlade''.
** [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap]]: He can easily solo the first 6 or so chapters, but then the rest of your party quickly becomes very weak. This caused a lot of people to hate him at first. Later, more people noticed that he can rescue anyone in your party (at first), visit villages which are out of the way, and when carrying someone he can knock enemies down to single digit HP without killing them, letting you feed the kills to your weaker party members. Now he's considered one of the most useful characters in the game.
 
'''Lowen'''
* [[Die for Our Ship]]: HatedOften hated by Rebecca/Wil shippers.
** [[Fan Dumb|Despite the fact that]] Rebecca practically [[Fan Girl|worships Lowen]] in their supports.
 
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'''Karel'''
* [[Ron the Death Eater]]: HeHis oftenrole seesis his murderous personaoften exaggerated by thesome fans, particularly those who are unaware of where his character was going in the previous game, to the point of painting him as a [[TokenEvilTeammateToken Evil Teammate|villain]] [[Villain Protagonist|protagonist]] rather than an [[SociopathicHeroSociopathic Hero|anti-hero]]. It also doesn't help that some fanfiction writers portray him this way.
 
'''Harken'''
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''' {{spoiler|Jaffar}}'''
* [[Kick Thethe Dog]]: He's the one who kills Leila for Ephidel. To Matthew, this is a [[Moral Event Horizon]] moment.
* [[Stoic Woobie]]
 
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'''King Desmond of Bern'''
* [[Complete Monster]]: While he does have believable human responses which cause them, his better qualities become warped due to his hatred and jealousy of ''his own son''.
* [[Love to Hate]]: For a character only appearing in several scenes in ''The Blazing SwordBlade'' and being dead before ''The SealedBinding SwordBlade'', his actions have sure earned him a lot of hatred. Of course, being responsible for {{spoiler|trying to murder your own son at ''least'' two times - out of pure jealousy - and indirectly turning him into a misanthropic tyrant as a result}} tends to do that kind of thing to a character's reputation.
* [[Unintentionally Unsympathetic]]: He's bitter because he was forced to marry Hellene instead of his [[One True Love|one true love]] and feels inadequate compared to [[The Ace|his son]]. That's still no excuse for [[Abusive Parents|treating said son like shit]], trying to sabotage his coming of age ceremony so [[Parental Favoritism|his illegitimate daughter]] can have the throne, and {{Spoiler|''trying to kill the poor boy twice''}}. Especially when [[The Woobie|Zephiel]] has nothing but respect for his father and [["Well Done, Son" Guy|wants to please him]]. He even considers Desmond's mistress part of the family!
 
'''Hannah'''
* [[The Scrappy]]
 
'''Fargus'''