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But sometimes, the [[Word of God]] can't quite make up its mind what to say. Maybe the writer hasn't decided what the right answer is, or [[Bellisario's Maxim|the audience asked him a question he didn't think he'd have to answer at all]]. Maybe he actually changed his mind sometime after he gave the original answer. Sometimes, it's simply that the creator is a [[Lying Creator]]. Or the "creator" is actually a series of ghost writers as in some franchise series and [[Depending On the Writer]] don't do a great job of keeping the character consistent. Either way, a Flip Flop Of God is when the [[Word of God]] contradicts itself somehow. The fundamental unreliability this reveals -- any author, at any time, might commit this trope -- can be considered an argument in favor of the [[Death of the Author]].
But sometimes, the [[Word of God]] can't quite make up its mind what to say. Maybe the writer hasn't decided what the right answer is, or [[Bellisario's Maxim|the audience asked him a question he didn't think he'd have to answer at all]]. Maybe he actually changed his mind sometime after he gave the original answer. Sometimes, it's simply that the creator is a [[Lying Creator]]. Or the "creator" is actually a series of ghost writers as in some franchise series and [[Depending On the Writer]] don't do a great job of keeping the character consistent. Either way, a Flip Flop Of God is when the [[Word of God]] contradicts itself somehow. The fundamental unreliability this reveals -- any author, at any time, might commit this trope -- can be considered an argument in favor of the [[Death of the Author]].


Different from [[Retcon]], because [[Retcon|Retcons]] are changes to something that happens in the story, instead of the [[Word of God]]. When the author refuses to outright answer a question, it's a [[Shrug of God]]. Also different from a [[Sword and Sandal|flip-flop]] ''worn'' by an [[Crystal Dragon Jesus|in-universe god]], or a [[Lotus Eater Machine|god that's]] [[The Matrix|made of]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop_%28electronics%29 flip-flops.]
Different from [[Retcon]], because [[Retcon|Retcons]] are changes to something that happens in the story, instead of the [[Word of God]]. When the author refuses to outright answer a question, it's a [[Shrug of God]]. Also different from a [[Sword and Sandal|flip-flop]] ''worn'' by an [[Crystal Dragon Jesus|in-universe god]], or a [[Lotus Eater Machine|god that's]] [[The Matrix|made of]] [[wikipedia:Flip-flop chr(28)electronicschr(29)|flip-flops.]]


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* RDM's flat denial of any possibility of an Adama/Roslin in ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]'' romance. Turned out about the same way.
* RDM's flat denial of any possibility of an Adama/Roslin in ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]'' romance. Turned out about the same way.
* Depending on if you ask Matthew Graham or Ashley Pharaoh, Jim Keats of ''[[Ashes to Ashes]]'' is either {{spoiler|1=[[Satan]] incarnate (according to Graham, sometimes), the Antichrist (Graham again, in different interviews), or a high-ranking agent of evil/The Devil/[[David Bowie]] (Pharoah, according to Graham).}} Don't even [[Base Breaker|start with the fans' opinions]]. Let's just say, his status is up in the air and leave it at that.
* Depending on if you ask Matthew Graham or Ashley Pharaoh, Jim Keats of ''[[Ashes to Ashes]]'' is either {{spoiler|1=[[Satan]] incarnate (according to Graham, sometimes), the Antichrist (Graham again, in different interviews), or a high-ranking agent of evil/The Devil/[[David Bowie]] (Pharoah, according to Graham).}} Don't even [[Base Breaker|start with the fans' opinions]]. Let's just say, his status is up in the air and leave it at that.
* [[Russell T Davies]], ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' producer, refused to confirm whether or not the Face of Boe is really {{spoiler|Jack Harkness}}, calling it only "a theory".
* [[Russell T Davies]], ''[[Doctor Who]]'' producer, refused to confirm whether or not the Face of Boe is really {{spoiler|Jack Harkness}}, calling it only "a theory".
** In the DVD commentary for "Last of the Time Lords", Julie Gardner (an executive producer) accused Davies of "back-pedaling" on the two characters being obviously the same.
** In the DVD commentary for "Last of the Time Lords", Julie Gardner (an executive producer) accused Davies of "back-pedaling" on the two characters being obviously the same.
** Davies had also already added a line of dialog into "Gridlock" that strongly implied the same thing, which he points out on the same DVD commentary.
** Davies had also already added a line of dialog into "Gridlock" that strongly implied the same thing, which he points out on the same DVD commentary.
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** RPM now explicitly takes place in another dimension (pretty much the only explanation for Samurai ''not'' being in a post-apocalyptic wasteland and featuring someone from ''Morphin'.'')
** RPM now explicitly takes place in another dimension (pretty much the only explanation for Samurai ''not'' being in a post-apocalyptic wasteland and featuring someone from ''Morphin'.'')
** There's also Jonathon Tzachor's constant flip-flop over the state of the series' continuity. Initially, it was one whole universe except ''RPM''. Then, he decided that none of the Disney-era series happened (''Ninja Storm'' through ''RPM''). ''Then'', he decided that season happened in different continuities, which makes ''Mighty Morphin'' season 3 and ''Turbo's'' endings [[Downer Ending|Downer Endings]]!
** There's also Jonathon Tzachor's constant flip-flop over the state of the series' continuity. Initially, it was one whole universe except ''RPM''. Then, he decided that none of the Disney-era series happened (''Ninja Storm'' through ''RPM''). ''Then'', he decided that season happened in different continuities, which makes ''Mighty Morphin'' season 3 and ''Turbo's'' endings [[Downer Ending|Downer Endings]]!
* One of the house rules for ''[[Quantum Leap]]'', according to creator Donald Bellisario, was that Sam would never leap into a real person. For the first four seasons, he didn't; we only saw "[[Historical In-Joke|kisses with history]]". But the rule was suddenly dropped for Season 5, which opened with Sam leaping into [[Who Shot JFK|Lee Harvey Oswald]] (a story Bellisario particularly wanted to tell as a counterpunch to Oliver Stone's ''JFK''), and continued with a host of others: Marilyn Monroe's chauffeur, Dr. Ruth, and even [[Elvis Presley|the King himself]].
* One of the house rules for ''[[Quantum Leap]]'', according to creator Donald Bellisario, was that Sam would never leap into a real person. For the first four seasons, he didn't; we only saw "[[Historical In-Joke|kisses with history]]". But the rule was suddenly dropped for Season 5, which opened with Sam leaping into [[Who Shot JFK?|Lee Harvey Oswald]] (a story Bellisario particularly wanted to tell as a counterpunch to Oliver Stone's ''JFK''), and continued with a host of others: Marilyn Monroe's chauffeur, Dr. Ruth, and even [[Elvis Presley|the King himself]].
** This was [[Executive Meddling]] at work, per Usenet posts made at the time from someone with connections to the production staff. The only way Bellisario could get Season 5 made was by giving the network execs the stories they wanted, which involved Sam leaping into real people.
** This was [[Executive Meddling]] at work, per Usenet posts made at the time from someone with connections to the production staff. The only way Bellisario could get Season 5 made was by giving the network execs the stories they wanted, which involved Sam leaping into real people.
* [[Glee]] has Sam. Sam was originally intended to be gay and his role was partly to develop as Kurt's boyfriend. The writers changed their mind before they filmed anything. They gave the Kurt's boyfriend storyline to another new character, Blaine. Sam was made straight with only extremely nitpicky evidence to suggest he might be bi, but nothing has come of it so far.
* [[Glee]] has Sam. Sam was originally intended to be gay and his role was partly to develop as Kurt's boyfriend. The writers changed their mind before they filmed anything. They gave the Kurt's boyfriend storyline to another new character, Blaine. Sam was made straight with only extremely nitpicky evidence to suggest he might be bi, but nothing has come of it so far.
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** One preview for ''[[Final Fantasy X (Video Game)|Final Fantasy X]]'' explicitly pointed out the pronunciation as "Tee-dus." ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' has it Tee-dus, but ''Kingdom Hearts 2'' has it Tie-dus.
** One preview for ''[[Final Fantasy X (Video Game)|Final Fantasy X]]'' explicitly pointed out the pronunciation as "Tee-dus." ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' has it Tee-dus, but ''Kingdom Hearts 2'' has it Tie-dus.
*** One can blame that on Wakka's strange accent.
*** One can blame that on Wakka's strange accent.
** ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'' solidified things by going with Tee-dus, which corresponds with the Japanese pronunciation. Except where a few characters call him by Tie-dus. [[Flip Flop of God|Arggggh.]]
** ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'' solidified things by going with Tee-dus, which corresponds with the Japanese pronunciation. Except where a few characters call him by Tie-dus. [[Flip-Flop of God|Arggggh.]]
** James Arnold Taylor, Tidus's voice actor, has always pronounced his name as "Tee-dus" in interviews and on his website. Not quite [[Word of God]] but if his own voice actor doesn't know...
** James Arnold Taylor, Tidus's voice actor, has always pronounced his name as "Tee-dus" in interviews and on his website. Not quite [[Word of God]] but if his own voice actor doesn't know...
*** Also, pre [[Kingdom Hearts II (Video Game)|Kingdom Hearts 2]] Nomura said that Namine has no connection to Kairi whatsoever {{spoiler|just because she screwed around with Sora's memories and replaced Kairi with herself}}. Come endgame of 2, she turns out to be {{spoiler|Kairi's nobody, albeit a special kind of nobody born from Kairi's heart leaving Sora's body}}. [[Lying Creator|Damn you Nomura!]]
*** Also, pre [[Kingdom Hearts II (Video Game)|Kingdom Hearts 2]] Nomura said that Namine has no connection to Kairi whatsoever {{spoiler|just because she screwed around with Sora's memories and replaced Kairi with herself}}. Come endgame of 2, she turns out to be {{spoiler|Kairi's nobody, albeit a special kind of nobody born from Kairi's heart leaving Sora's body}}. [[Lying Creator|Damn you Nomura!]]
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*** Since Roxy is a literal [[Palette Swap]] of Poison, she was ignored outside of one [[All in The Manual]] moment by Capcom of USA, declaring the she was a cisgender female who "always looked up to Poison although she doesn't really dig the cross-dressing thing."
*** Since Roxy is a literal [[Palette Swap]] of Poison, she was ignored outside of one [[All in The Manual]] moment by Capcom of USA, declaring the she was a cisgender female who "always looked up to Poison although she doesn't really dig the cross-dressing thing."
* [http://www.capcomdigital.com/blog/2008/09/05/inafunesan_answers_your_questions According to Kejii Inafune,] ''[[Mega Man and Bass (Video Game)|Mega Man and Bass]]'' exists parallel to ''[[Mega Man 9 (Video Game)|Mega Man 9]]''. However, in the ending of ''9'', Rush projects nine images of Wily doing the exact same actions in different games, and one of them unmistakably takes place in the final boss room in the former.
* [http://www.capcomdigital.com/blog/2008/09/05/inafunesan_answers_your_questions According to Kejii Inafune,] ''[[Mega Man and Bass (Video Game)|Mega Man and Bass]]'' exists parallel to ''[[Mega Man 9 (Video Game)|Mega Man 9]]''. However, in the ending of ''9'', Rush projects nine images of Wily doing the exact same actions in different games, and one of them unmistakably takes place in the final boss room in the former.
* Nintendo's released contradictory statements (most [[Egregious|egregiously]], the fluff is at odds between ''[[Super Smash Bros]] Melee'' and ''Brawl'') on whether [[Sweet Polly Oliver|Sheik]] from ''[[The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time]]'' is, ahem, [[Gender Bender|"complete"]].
* Nintendo's released contradictory statements (most [[Egregious|egregiously]], the fluff is at odds between ''[[Super Smash Bros]] Melee'' and ''Brawl'') on whether [[Sweet Polly Oliver|Sheik]] from ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time]]'' is, ahem, [[Gender Bender|"complete"]].
** Same with Birdo (most common consensus is that she's pre-op though lately they've began implying she's post-op).
** Same with Birdo (most common consensus is that she's pre-op though lately they've began implying she's post-op).
* The hair color of [[Big Bad|Golbez]] in ''[[Final Fantasy IV]].'' He [[Tin Tyrant|never takes off his fancy, face-and-head-obscuring helmet]] for the entirety of the game, but given that he's a blood relative of {{spoiler|Cecil and Fusoya, white-haired Lunarians both}}, most fans assumed [[White-Haired Pretty Boy|white hair]] for him as well. Then comes the DS remake, which, mostly in flashbacks, confirms that he has brown hair {{spoiler|like his father}}. Then, just as fandom is getting used to that, they release ''[[Final Fantasy IV the After Years]]'', and he's got white hair. One wonders what the inevitable sequel to ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'' will do with him...
* The hair color of [[Big Bad|Golbez]] in ''[[Final Fantasy IV]].'' He [[Tin Tyrant|never takes off his fancy, face-and-head-obscuring helmet]] for the entirety of the game, but given that he's a blood relative of {{spoiler|Cecil and Fusoya, white-haired Lunarians both}}, most fans assumed [[White-Haired Pretty Boy|white hair]] for him as well. Then comes the DS remake, which, mostly in flashbacks, confirms that he has brown hair {{spoiler|like his father}}. Then, just as fandom is getting used to that, they release ''[[Final Fantasy IV the After Years]]'', and he's got white hair. One wonders what the inevitable sequel to ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'' will do with him...
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