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******* Well for the sake of continuity we can always chalk the Betamax/VHS thing to be an insignificant retcon, and the age difference being due to 1) grainy footage and 2) Olivia's self-image in her recovered memories of the events was younger than her actual self at the time because of her own feelings of vulnerability: thus, she sees a three-year old in "Jacksonville" when remembering experiences from when she was very young (9) and vulnerable.

******** Olivia's memories in "LSD" seem to confirm a much earlier start to the Cortexiphan trials, back when her biological father was still alive. This isn't particularly elegant, and it seems the writers snuck this change in when they were writing "Subject 13", but it mostly works. Also, as to Olivia forgetting, the weirdness and unreliability of memory is a major theme on this show. How people can put up with all the sci-fi craziness, but not be willing to accept young children losing traumatic memories is perplexing to me.

* After the first season, [[What Happened to ~~The~~ Mouse?|Massive Dynamics' questionable motivations and game of counter-intelligence with the FBI were completely forgotten]], causing Nina Sharp to completely lose all her teeth. (I really miss the untrustworthy, layered Nina of S1).

* After the first season, [[What Happened to the Mouse?|Massive Dynamics' questionable motivations and game of counter-intelligence with the FBI were completely forgotten]], causing Nina Sharp to completely lose all her teeth. (I really miss the untrustworthy, layered Nina of S1).

** Everyone got on the same page in season 2: protect the universe from the alternate one. Of course, [[Wild Mass Guessing|there's an argument to be made]] that Massive Dynamic's hostile attitude towards Fringe Division when it was fighting ZFT indicates they were in league. ZFT ''is'' an organisation committed to fighting the alternate universe and was first founded, in some way at least, by William Bell. Jones was a bad egg, but ZFT is a continuation of Bell and Walter's original goals.

* In the first episode, Nina Sharp has a [[Hollywood Cyborg|cybernetic arm]] that moves completely naturalistically and (as long as she wears the psuedo-skin covering) ''looks'' same. Why in the infernal blazing hells is this ''not'' a premiere product line for Massive Dynamics (which is isn't, based on Dunham's reaction)? If I were running a company that had that tech, I'd be trumpeting it to the skies. As a transhumanist, [[User:Gamer From Jump|this troper]] considers withholding something like that to be pretty much directly evil. Not to mention completely nonsensical for a ''business''.

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** They can't exactly {{spoiler|keep cutting forever, and they might accidentally jostle the tube in some way that can kill him.}}

** No, but when given the choice die or maybe die, I'll chose maybe die any time...

* In the first season episode "The Arrival" the Rogue is equipped with a massively powerful energy pistol. Now, most of the ultratech in the show is not used by the main characters or otherwise buried because it is A) Too dangerous, B) only understood by the people who built/use it, C) [[Powered By a Forsaken Child]], or D) So flagrantly evil it is impossible to think of practical applications. However, the gun is just that: A gun. A powerful, deadly tool that destroys what you point it at and nothing else, doesn't seem to require anything exotic to use, and is as easy as point and click. What happened to the gun?

* In the first season episode "The Arrival" the Rogue is equipped with a massively powerful energy pistol. Now, most of the ultratech in the show is not used by the main characters or otherwise buried because it is A) Too dangerous, B) only understood by the people who built/use it, C) [[Powered by a Forsaken Child]], or D) So flagrantly evil it is impossible to think of practical applications. However, the gun is just that: A gun. A powerful, deadly tool that destroys what you point it at and nothing else, doesn't seem to require anything exotic to use, and is as easy as point and click. What happened to the gun?

** They may have answered that in "August". The Observers seemed to use the same type of weapon as the Rogue, but once August's gun ran out they were unable to "recharge" it. Presumably they still have the Rogue's gun, but have the same problem.

* Continuity hole big enough to swallow a city: In the second-season episode "Unearthed," {{spoiler|Charlie}} appears in the episode and has dialogue, despite {{spoiler|both him and the shapeshifter with his face being rather obviously dead.}}

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* why does everyone in-universe seems to blame Peter for not realizing Fauxlivia was not Olivia? How do you think HE feels? The woman he's been sleeping with for weeks is NOT who he thought she was. But I guess a case of [[Double Standard Rape (Sci Fi)]]?

** Olivia actually apologizes to him for this in ''"Reciprocity"''... and I don't recall anyone calling Peter out other than her.

*** Plus, Olivia admits she's being irrational when she yells at him at the end of "Marionette". She just needed a little time to come to terms with the situation. And the other characters are pretty understanding and sympathetic towards Peter, with Walter, Astrid, and Nina pretty much [[Shipper On Deck|shipping]] the relationship. (Though Nina also had some ulterior motives I suppose.) Also, to an extent this seemed to be the characters themselves buying into [[Rape Is Ok When It Is Female On Male|Rape is Okay When It Is Female on Male]] somewhat.

*** Plus, Olivia admits she's being irrational when she yells at him at the end of "Marionette". She just needed a little time to come to terms with the situation. And the other characters are pretty understanding and sympathetic towards Peter, with Walter, Astrid, and Nina pretty much [[Shipper on Deck|shipping]] the relationship. (Though Nina also had some ulterior motives I suppose.) Also, to an extent this seemed to be the characters themselves buying into [[Rape Is Ok When It Is Female On Male|Rape is Okay When It Is Female on Male]] somewhat.

* I know he's supposed to be an [[Omnidisciplinary Scientist]], but seriously. [[Once an Episode|Every single anomaly]] they investigate is invariably liked to Walter's work for the military/government/whatever. I know it [[Necessary Weasel|has to be that way for the show to function]], but it would have been nice to have one or two episodes where there's a Pattern event and for Walter to say, "sorry, no idea, never worked on anything like ''that''".

* There are...quite a few plot holes when Sam Weiss and the First People are concerned. Might as well list them all...: