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{{quote|Rejecting (or accepting) something solely on the basis of its origin, without looking at meaning or context. This ignores the fact that even a less credible source iscan sometimespotentially be right, or that a more credible source can potentially be, rightwrong. Alternately,This thatis aseen morein credibleany case where a source is sometimes,either highly disparaged or canesteemed. Sources will commonly be, wrong.}}accepted or dismissed out of hand without looking into the actual validity of their facts or arguments.
 
Sub-fallacies of the Genetic Fallacy include:
This is seen in any case where a source is either highly disparaged or esteemed. Sources will commonly be accepted or dismissed out of hand without looking into the actual validity of their facts or arguments.
* [[Ad Hominem]]
 
** Poisoning the well (the preemptive smearing of one's opponent)
Similar to, but definitely not the same as, [[Hitler Ate Sugar]].
** Responding to tone / Tone policing (criticizing one's opponent for expressing emotion)
** [[Tu quoque]]
* [[Appeal to Authority]] and Appeal from Authority
** Appeal to accomplishment (stating one's opponent has not done what one has done)
* Appeal to motive (claiming one's opponent has an ulterior motive for making the arguments that he made)
* Appeal to nature (claiming "natural" things are good ''because'' they're "natural")
* [[Appeal to Novelty]]
** Chronological snobbery (claiming "newer is better")
* [[Appeal to Tradition]]
* Argumentum ad crumenam ([[Appeal to Wealth]])
* Argumentum ad lazarum (Appeal to Poverty)
* [[Association Fallacy]]
** [[Hitler Ate Sugar|Reductio ad Hitlerum]]
*** [[Godwin's Law]]
** Reductio ad Stalinum
* Bulverism (assuming one's opponent is wrong and explaining the error - [[Circular Reasoning]] [[X Meets Y|meets]] Genetic Fallacy)
* Etymological fallacy (arguing about the meaning of a word used in one's opponent's argument)
* Ipse dixit (an assertion without proof)
* Whataboutism (answering a question with a different question)
 
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The ur-example is perhaps Dr. Peter Duesberg. An oncologist at UC Berkeley, he became best known for claiming in 1987 that HIV did not cause AIDS, but that it was the result of recreational and or/antiretroviral drug use, with HIV being only a "harmless" passenger virus. Outrage predictably followed, and Duesberg quickly fell from grace. Worse, this view had a major influence on South African President Thabo Mbeki, who failed to provide antiretroviral drugs to AIDS victims (Duesberg claimed such drugs in fact caused AIDS rather than treating it), resulting in hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths. However...Duesberg had discovered a gene that helps cause cancer in 1970, which he continued to conduct research on in the intervening years, including when he was involved with the AIDS controversy. As he was so ostracized and discredited, most of his research was not even read. [http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-pariahs-have-good-ideas Ironically, it has potential to save millions of more lives than the deaths his AIDS denialism contributed to]. He demonstrates both sides of the fallacy, as many people believed his AIDS denialist theory due to his scientific credentials, while conversely other scientists did not read his work due to that very theory.
* "[[Appeal to Tradition|Argument from age]]" would be the instance of this fallacy that is probably most familiar: because the claim is, or is made by, someone or something new or old, it is better or more reliable. "Latest research shows..." and "The ancient Greeks thought..." are both typical ways to lead into this fallacy, if nothing more than the fact that the age of the claim is considered or presented as relevant.
 
* "Not Invented Here": the rejection of a new idea or method not on its merits but simply because it originated outside the organization of which one is a member.
=== Looks like this fallacy but is not: ===
** In later volumes of the ''[[Honor Harrington]]'' series, officials of the Solarian League underestimate the military technology and expertise of the [[The Dreaded|highly respected]] Royal Manticoran Navy, simply because it is not Solarian.
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The* urA tragic real-world example iswould perhapsbe Dr. Peter Duesberg. An oncologist at UC Berkeley, he became best known for claiming in 1987 that HIV did not cause AIDS, but rather that itAIDS was the result of recreational and or/antiretroviral drug use, with HIV being only a "harmless" passenger virus. Outrage predictably followed, and Duesberg quickly fell from grace. Worse, this view had a major influence on South African President Thabo Mbeki, who failed to provide antiretroviral drugs to AIDS victims (Duesberg claimed such drugs in fact caused AIDS rather than treating it), resulting in hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths. However...Duesberg had discovered a gene that helps cause cancer in 1970, which he continued to conduct research on in the intervening years, including when he was involved with the AIDS controversy. As he was so ostracized and discredited, most of his research was not even read. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120921023535/http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-pariahs-have-good-ideas Ironically, it has potential to save millions of more lives than the deaths his AIDS denialism contributed to]. He demonstrates both sides of the fallacy, as many people believed his AIDS denialist theory due to his scientific credentials, while conversely other scientists did not read his work due to that very theory.
 
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