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{{trope}}
{{quote|''"...I have a territorial instinct that exhibits a kind of knee-jerk negative reaction to seeing other people controlling the destiny of my characters. (That's the main reason why ''Goliath Chronicles'' was so painful for me to watch.)"''|'''[[Greg Weisman]]''', creator of ''[[Gargoyles]]''}}
|'''[[Greg Weisman]]''', creator of ''[[Gargoyles]]''}}
 
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Not quite.
Except not... The main difficulty of creating a fictional work is not always a creative issue. Very often the creator of a fictional work is unable to produce his work the way he wants without money. Other times he wants to use characters he doesn't own. The only way the author is able to produce his work, or using the characters he likes but doesn't own, is by giving all the legal rights of his hard work to some big company [[Deal with the Devil|in exchange for getting his work financed]].
 
Often, the main difficulty in creating fiction comes down to matters of either funding or copyright - usually both - and the process frequently ends with the creator giving all the legal rights of their hard work to some big company [[Deal with the Devil|in exchange for getting the work financed]]. Alternately, a creator may be in a '''"work for hire"''' situation where they are paid to do the writing for their employer, who then owns whatever they produce. This in turn opens the door to the deal backfiring for the following reasons:
While this removes all the production costs, it can backfire for the author for the following reasons:
 
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# The author's [[Wordinterpretations of God]]canon canare be demotedsubject to [[Fanchange Fiction]], whileby the executives, who can even simply [[Armed with Canon|armhire someoneanother else with canon]]creator to change the work]] or [[Depending on the Writer|"interpret it differently"]].
#[[You Have Outlived Your Usefulness|If the company doesn't want the original author, they simply replace/fire him from the project.]]
 
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This can be very painful for the author losing all their "control" of their work despite being the main creative force behind it and the ultimate authority of it. However some fans may still consider them as "[[Word of God]]" in spite of this, and even hold them in higher regard.
 
Sometimes, a creator may try to [[Torch the Franchise and Run]] in response to this situation.
 
{{examples}}
== [[Comic Books]] ==
 
* For ''[[Sandman]]'' there is an interesting semi-exception in a medium (American comics) where it ''is'' very common: [[DC Comics]] own the work, and can use characters from it without consulting [[Neil Gaiman]] in any way ... but it wouldn't occur to anyone currently working there to do so, mostly because Gaiman's portrayal of them is so iconic that any appearance by a ''[[Sandman]]'' character written by anyone else would be considered [[Canon Discontinuity]] at best.
== Comics ==
* For ''[[Sandman]]'' there is an interesting semi-exception in a medium (American comics) where it ''is'' very common: [[DC Comics]] own the work, and can use characters from it without consulting [[Neil Gaiman]] in any way ... but it wouldn't occur to anyone currently working there to do so, mostly because Gaiman's portrayal of them is so iconic that any appearance by a ''[[Sandman]]'' character written by anyone else would be considered [[Canon Discontinuity]] at best.
** To date, due to a reluctance to include characters from the Vertigo line in the 'mainstream' DC universe, the only appearance of a Sandman character in the main DC line since the original [[Sandman]] series concluded was the Daniel version of Dream. They had no need to ask permission but at least gave the courtesy of a heads-up to [[Neil Gaiman]], who looked the dialogue over and thought it was pretty damn good. A reference to the [[Green Lantern Ring]] as a "wishing ring" is one he wishes he thought of himself.
** [[Paul Cornell]] also ran his use of the Endless version of [[The Grim Reaper|Death]] during "The Black Ring" arc by Gaiman and got approved. Generally, the only one of the Endless that is used without Gaiman's permission is Destiny, the only member of the family not created by Gaiman. Destiny predated ''[[The Sandman]]'' by many years (and was host of one of DC's horror anthology comics) and was retconned into the Endless by Gaiman. His personality has stayed pretty consistent, so it's not seen as any problem.
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* The creators of ''[[Superman]]'' sold the rights to him early on (for $65, for each of them!), but later fought tooth and nail just to get some recognition.
* This was standard practice in comic strips until the 1980s and Bill Watterson's famous fight to prevent ''[[Calvin and Hobbes]]'' merchandise. Today, creators generally own all rights to their strips, or have a contract that reverts all rights back to them after a certain number of years.
* The creators of ''[[W.I.T.C.H.|WITCH]]'' were screwed out of their comic only halfway through the first arc, leading the story to go in a very different direction than what was originally intended.
* [[Rob Liefeld]] was annoyed that [[Peter David]] revealed that Shatterstar (a character he created) was gay, and posted that he couldn't wait to revert it (back to "asexual, and struggling to understand human behavior", not straight). [[Joe Quesada]] responded that Liefeld would have to get permission from the next editor-in-chief, and [[Peter David]] has since confirmed Shatterstar's bisexuality.
** And a new Editor in Chief has come, and still no sign of Marvel changing it.
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* One of the reasons for founding [[Image Comics]] was that artists and writers working for Marvel and DC wanted to own their own properties, avoiding this very trope.
* Some time when you're bored, Google "''Before [[Watchmen (comics)|Watchmen]]'' reactions". [[Alan Moore]] does not own the ''[[Watchmen (comics)|Watchmen]]'', and man, is he pissed about DC's upcoming prequels. (Which is kind of funny, given [[Lost Girls (comics)|some of the stuff Moore himself has done with characters someone else created]].)
* This is why it took so long for ''[[Groo the Wanderer]]'' to be published -- Sergiopublished—Sergio Aragones did not want Groo to be owned by anyone else but him, but in the late '70s, the default assumption was that comics had to be "work for hire". It was only with ''Destroyer Duck'' and the advent of "creator-owned labels" that sprung up in the wake of [[Steve gerberGerber]]'s protests over Marvel's ownership of ''[[Howard the Duck]]'' that Aragones found an imprint that he could feel comfortable publishing Groo with. (Ironically, ''Groo'''s longest-running imprint was actually a subdivision of Marvel, their creator-owned "Epic" imprint.)
* The [[New Gods|Fourth World]] series by [[Jack Kirby]] were his distinctive [[DC Comics]] creation, but he was never able to tell his stories the way he intended and its concepts and characters like [[Darkseid]] were integrated into the [[The DCU]] completely instead.
 
== Comics[[Film]] ==
* ThereAt isone time there was a ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (film)|Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' [[The Remake|remake]] film under discussion, which iswas being planned without [[Word of God|Joss Whedon's input]]., and in which Nonenone of the TV characters (except Buffy) willwould appear. Joss hashad actually refused to help with it. [[Alyson Hannigan]], [[Anthony Stewart Head]] and others from the show have all said that it's a bad idea and, in the case of Head, that he imaginesimagined it willwould be "quite like watching a car wreck."
* Happened to [[Gene Roddenberry]] with the ''[[Star Trek]]'' film series. After ''[[Star Trek: The Motion Picture|Star Trek the Motion Picture]]'' went way over budget and past schedule, [[Paramount Pictures]] had Roddenberry [[Kicked Upstairs]] to "executive consultant", meaning everyone could ignore his "suggestions" if they liked and they did. But [[Tropes Are Not Bad]]. The films that followed are considered some of the best work in the ''Star Trek'' canon. When ''Star Trek'' returned to the small screen with ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek the Next Generation]]'', Roddenberry got to be in charge of that, though he continued to have no control over the ''Trek'' movies. During this time, Roddenberry dispensed some [[Word of God]] regarding what elements of the films he considered to be non-canon.
 
== Films[[Literature]] ==
* L J Smith was fired from writing ''[[The Vampire Diaries]]'' by the company that owns the rights, allegedly because she disagreed with them about who the heroine should be romantically paired with at the end. The company intends to get someone else in to write it the way they want.
* There is a ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (film)|Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' [[The Remake|remake]] film under discussion, which is being planned without [[Word of God|Joss Whedon's input]]. None of the TV characters (except Buffy) will appear. Joss has actually refused to help with it. [[Alyson Hannigan]], [[Anthony Stewart Head]] and others from the show have all said that it's a bad idea and, in the case of Head, that he imagines it will be "quite like watching a car wreck."
* Tying into the below-mentioned Tabletop Games, R.A. Salvatore doesn't own the rights to the stuff he's written based off ''[[Dungeons and& Dragons]]''. He tried to end ''[[Forgotten Realms|The Legend of Drizzt]]'', but backed down after being told that a different writer would continue the story. It's suspected by some that the series's recent decline in quality is an attempt to [[Torch the Franchise and Run]], but another theory is that he's simply out of ideas (which, of course, would explain why he tried to end it in the first place.)
* Happened to [[Gene Roddenberry]] with the ''[[Star Trek]]'' film series. After ''[[Star Trek: The Motion Picture|Star Trek the Motion Picture]]'' went way over budget and past schedule, [[Paramount Pictures]] had Roddenberry [[Kicked Upstairs]] to "executive consultant", meaning everyone could ignore his "suggestions" if they liked and they did. But [[Tropes Are Not Bad]]. The films that followed are considered some of the best work in the ''Star Trek'' canon. When ''Star Trek'' returned to the small screen with ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek the Next Generation]]'', Roddenberry got to be in charge of that, though he continued to have no control over the ''Trek'' movies. During this time, Roddenberry dispensed some [[Word of God]] regarding what elements of the films he considered to be non-canon.
 
== [[Live-Action TV]] ==
* ''[[The Wild Wild West (TV series)|The Wild Wild West]]'': CBS did ''not'' want the show's creator Michael Garrison to be overseeing the show because of how much the pilot had cost, which led to Garrison having a legal battle with the Eye throughout season one before getting control back. Eventually, Garrison did get in a producer to his liking in the form of Bruce Lansbury... but CBS still got a Garrison-less show in the end, [[Author Existence Failure|though not in the manner anyone would have preferred]].
 
== Literature[[Music]] ==
* Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield had created a derivative version of [[David Bowie]]'s ''Space Oddity'' which contained actual footage of the astronaut performing a version of the song on the International Space Station. The video was widely distributed and well-regarded, but was then abruptly pulled as the derivative relied on buying a paid licence for the original work... which Bowie no longer controlled, and which had been purchased for a fixed one-year term from whatever faceless corporation had taken Bowie's rights to his own music.
* L J Smith was fired from writing ''[[The Vampire Diaries]]'' by the company that owns the rights, allegedly because she disagreed with them about who the heroine should be romantically paired with at the end. The company intends to get someone else in to write it the way they want.
** At least Chris Hadfield was able to negotiate a longer license for the audio before his album ''Songs from a Tin Can'' was released, so we can at least listen to this cover.
* Tying into the below-mentioned Tabletop Games, R.A. Salvatore doesn't own the rights to the stuff he's written based off ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]''. He tried to end ''[[Forgotten Realms|The Legend of Drizzt]]'', but backed down after being told that a different writer would continue the story. It's suspected by some that the series's recent decline in quality is an attempt to [[Torch the Franchise and Run]], but another theory is that he's simply out of ideas (which, of course, would explain why he tried to end it in the first place.)
 
 
== [[Tabletop Games]] ==
* ''[[Dungeons and& Dragons]]'' hasn't been owned by its original creators in well over twentythirty years, ever since Gary Gygax had control of TSR wrested from him in the mid-1980's. Strangely enough, despite being the [[Trope Codifier]] for the entire RPG concept, Gygax has had very little effect on advancing the game's canon since it was first created. He created the original ''[[Greyhawk]]'' setting, but was involved very little with it afterwards before eventually leaving the company because of massive [[Executive Meddling]]. Very few gamers would actively prefer Gygax's game mechanics to what is produced today, though there is a certain flavor in classic adventures like ''Temple of Elemental Evil'' and the ''Tomb of Horrors'' made during his tenure that make for fun throwbacks.
** Likewise, the ''[[Forgotten Realms]]'' setting was originally created by Ed Greenwood and became known to public via series of articles in TSR's [[Dragon (magazine)|''Dragon'' magazine]] in the late 80's1980s. TSR eventually bought the rights to the setting outright, publishing it in a comprehensive campaign boxed set. Since then, it had been a playground for authors like R.A. Salvatore to publish mostly original novels based in the setting's backdrop, almost turning it into an [[Expanded Universe]]. And then continuity editing decayed until it became nonexistent, while Jeff Grubb (the man who put together cohesive multiverse of AD&D1-2 era as we know it and helped to make ''FR'' a game setting) lost influence and eventually left. As for the ''FR'', Greenwood continued to have some gradually decreasing input, or at least the right to complain, while TSR/Wizards/Hasbro ends up sitting on a ''huge'' pile of material it buried - during about two decades - behind NDA.
*** ...all the way until the release of 4th Edition, where the Spellplague and other interdimensional weirdness caused [[The End of the World as We Know It]] - [[Executive Meddling|against explicit objections]] of both Ed Greenwood ''and'' R.A. Salvatore (whose series, obviously, were one ofthe main cash cows and promotional materials in ''FR''). Essentially making [[In Name Only|effectively a new setting]] that tries to capitalize on the notoriety of ''Forgotten Realms'' and recycles some names from it (Ed Greenwood is good with names, which seems to be in short supply). It doesn't help that the setting itself looks like there was little effort put into it beyond tearing apart old ''FR'': it has most of the distinctive features removed and introduced little material not obviously "borrowed" from elsewhere (like rebranded dragonmarks from ''[[Eberron]]'' or the whole totally-not-''[[Exalted]]''-ripoff jumble with "Primordials"). Naturally, [[Fanon Discontinuity|this wasn't received well]].
** ''[[Dragonlance]]'' is currently owned by [[Wizards of the Coast]], and not by Tracy Hickman, [[Margaret Weis]], or Jeff Grubb, all three of whom (Amongamong many) who contributed greatly to the setting.
 
 
== Videogames[[Video Games]] ==
* Bungie Studios: The creator of the ''[[Halo]]'' franchise. After they were bought by Microsoft all the legal rights of their franchise now were owned by Microsoft. Despite the fact that Bungie Studios is the ultimate authority of the franchise, and created the [[Universe Bible]] and all the important elements of the franchise itself. Now that they are independent all their work after their separation, now belongs to the studio. By all accounts the Bungie-Halo is a rare amicable example of this trope, as Bungie simply decided they had definitively wrapped up the franchise for themselves, and wanted to do something different after 10 years, and so handed the franchise over to 343 Industries.
** It should be noted that 343i has a number of former Bungie employees in its employ, alongside those who worked with the late Pandemic Studios.
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* Also happened to Toys For Bob with ''[[Star Control]] 3'', although unusually for this circumstance, Toys For Bob ''do'' retain the rights to the setting itself, just not the right to create "Star Control" branded games.
* This happened to Toby Gard with ''[[Tomb Raider]]'' when he objected to making Lara [[Fan Service Pack|bustier]] and ended up axed from the sequel. He came back as a consultant after ''Angel Of Darkness'' tanked, but Eidos (and its parent company [[Square Enix]]) still holds the rights to Lara Croft.
 
 
== [[Western Animation]] ==
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* Regardless of whether you believe [[John Kricfalusi]] was fired from it for [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?|constantly conflicting with]] [[Nickelodeon]] BS&P or [[Schedule Slip|repeated failure to meet deadlines]], ''[[The Ren and Stimpy Show]]'' is likely the Most Triumphant Example. Bob Camp and much of the original team from the first two seasons would stay with Nick to work on Ren and Stimpy, which created major schisms between former animator friends that last to this day.
* Of all people it happened to [[Walt Disney]] himself. He lost the rights to [[Oswald the Lucky Rabbit]] and got replaced. After this incident he started to own all of his creations (including [[Mickey Mouse]], who was basically Oswald's replacement). [[Disney]] got the rights to Oswald back from [[Universal]] in 2006. This might explain why the Disney corporation [[Freudian Excuse|so jealously guard their own intellectual property.]]
* [[Don Bluth]] never really owned the rights to any movie he made (save for perhaps ''[[Banjo the Woodpile Cat]]''), resulting in both the [[Sequelitis]] of his more profitable films, and the [[Executive Meddling]] of his films in the 90's (which were made [[Lighter and Softer]] and played [[Follow the Leader]] with Disney). Bluth still gets [[Mis BlamedMisblamed]] for it.
* [[Lauren Faust]], despite being the main creative force behind the ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|Friendship is Magic]]'' incarnation of the ''[[My Little Pony]]'' franchise, has neither absolute control nor ownership of this run of the series.<ref>The franchise itself existed prior to her career in animation.</ref> This is punctuated by the fact that she demoted herself to consultant producer for Season 2.
 
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