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Most people know that there are two sides to every issue: their side, and the wrong side. Authors (and people in general) who subscribe to the [[Golden Mean Fallacy]] have another outlook. They believe that there are in fact three sides: the side of the complete morons to the left of them, the side of the complete morons to the right of them, and their own side, which combines the good points of each in sublime harmony while avoiding all the bad. If one position is argued to be superior ''solely'' because it is in the middle, then this is the [[You Fail Logic Forever|logical fallacy]] of [[wikipedia:Argument to moderation|Argument to Moderation]].
Most people know that there are two sides to every issue: their side, and the wrong side. Authors (and people in general) who subscribe to the [[Golden Mean Fallacy]] have another outlook. They believe that there are in fact three sides: the side of the complete morons to the left of them, the side of the complete morons to the right of them, and their own side, which combines the good points of each in sublime harmony while avoiding all the bad. If one position is argued to be superior ''solely'' because it is in the middle, then this is the [[You Fail Logic Forever|logical fallacy]] of [[wikipedia:Argument to moderation|Argument to Moderation]].


The fallacy comes about by assuming that not only are extreme solutions ''never'' reasonable or correct, but the correct solution can ''always'' be found in the middle, e.g.: Bob wants to exterminate all the termites in the house. Alice doesn't want to exterminate them at all. Therefore, the correct course of action is to kill exactly ''half'' of the termites.
The fallacy comes about by assuming that not only are extreme solutions ''never'' reasonable or correct, but the correct solution can ''always'' be found in the middle, e.g.: Bob wants to exterminate all the termites in the house. Alice doesn't want to exterminate them at all. Therefore, the correct course of action is to kill exactly ''half'' of the termites.


The [[Golden Mean Fallacy]] is turning both sides of an argument into [[Strawman Political|Strawman Politicals]] and declaring that the only sensible approach is to take the middle road. There is a number of benefits to this - you avoid offending either side too much since they can each take comfort in the fact that their enemies get just as ridiculed as them, you get to come off as a sensible person who thinks for oneself and doesn't blindly follow any one party line, and you get twice as many people to insult and make fun of.
The [[Golden Mean Fallacy]] is turning both sides of an argument into [[Strawman Political|Strawman Politicals]] and declaring that the only sensible approach is to take the middle road. There is a number of benefits to this - you avoid offending either side too much since they can each take comfort in the fact that their enemies get just as ridiculed as them, you get to come off as a sensible person who thinks for oneself and doesn't blindly follow any one party line, and you get twice as many people to insult and make fun of.
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The technique is known among American political strategists as [[wikipedia:Overton window|the Overton Window]].
The technique is known among American political strategists as [[wikipedia:Overton window|the Overton Window]].


Note that this is different from the author just [[Accentuate the Negative|pointing out the flaws in both sides of an argument]] and [[Lost Aesop|never revealing where they themselves stand]] - this trope is when the author claims that there really is a path that is completely good, right, and perfect, simply because it's right smack in between the other two. And of course, sometimes an option somewhere in between two polar oppositions really ''is'' the better option; however, this doesn't mean that the middle option is ''always'' the best option, or that this better option will fall squarely in the exact middle without favouring one or the other of the opposites even slightly.
Note that this is different from the author just [[Accentuate the Negative|pointing out the flaws in both sides of an argument]] and [[Lost Aesop|never revealing where they themselves stand]] - this trope is when the author claims that there really is a path that is completely good, right, and perfect, simply because it's right smack in between the other two. And of course, sometimes an option somewhere in between two polar oppositions really ''is'' the better option; however, this doesn't mean that the middle option is ''always'' the best option, or that this better option will fall squarely in the exact middle without favouring one or the other of the opposites even slightly.


Of course, one of the hazards of this trope is that you'll end up angering ''both'' sides of the debate, who might be more interested in complaining about what they wanted but didn't get, without even acknowledging anything that they might have gained. Alternatively, an attempt to compromise too closely might result in a watered-down solution which fails to satisfy anyone or accomplish anything; sometimes, tough decisions ''do'' have to be made for good or ill. Finally, one of the sides may actually be completely right after all, and thus taking the middle road is as wrong as the opposing viewpoint.
Of course, one of the hazards of this trope is that you'll end up angering ''both'' sides of the debate, who might be more interested in complaining about what they wanted but didn't get, without even acknowledging anything that they might have gained. Alternatively, an attempt to compromise too closely might result in a watered-down solution which fails to satisfy anyone or accomplish anything; sometimes, tough decisions ''do'' have to be made for good or ill. Finally, one of the sides may actually be completely right after all, and thus taking the middle road is as wrong as the opposing viewpoint.
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== Anime and Manga ==
== Anime and Manga ==
* ''[[Martian Successor Nadesico]]'': When the crew of the ''Nadesico'' realized that they couldn't negotiate with the Earth forces, they {{spoiler|tried to appeal to the Jovians, only to realize that they were just as single-minded.}} This led to their {{spoiler|stealing the Artifact, which allowed Boson Jumping, thus preventing Jupiter and Earth from fighting any longer for the time being.}}
* ''[[Martian Successor Nadesico]]'': When the crew of the ''Nadesico'' realized that they couldn't negotiate with the Earth forces, they {{spoiler|tried to appeal to the Jovians, only to realize that they were just as single-minded.}} This led to their {{spoiler|stealing the Artifact, which allowed Boson Jumping, thus preventing Jupiter and Earth from fighting any longer for the time being.}}




== Films -- Animated ==
== Films -- Animated ==
* ''[[Team America: World Police]]'' epitomizes this as far the Americans are concerned. Conservatives are "dicks" who are so aggressive that they cause as much harm as good, while liberals are "pussies" who are too wimpy to get anything done in the first place, but sometimes have to stop the "dicks" from going too far. Unlike ''[[South Park]]'', which often has a character find the golden mean, the film contrasts both opposing viewpoints with "assholes" (like terrorists or the movie's [[Big Bad]], Kim Jong-Il) who make the "dicks" necessary.
* ''[[Team America: World Police]]'' epitomizes this as far the Americans are concerned. Conservatives are "dicks" who are so aggressive that they cause as much harm as good, while liberals are "pussies" who are too wimpy to get anything done in the first place, but sometimes have to stop the "dicks" from going too far. Unlike ''[[South Park]]'', which often has a character find the golden mean, the film contrasts both opposing viewpoints with "assholes" (like terrorists or the movie's [[Big Bad]], Kim Jong-Il) who make the "dicks" necessary.




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** In the third book, Lupin tells an anecdote about a [[I Know What You Fear|boggart]] that came across two people at once; one was most afraid of flesh-eating slugs and the other was most afraid of headless corpses. The boggart, possibly attempting to combine "slug" and "headless", turned into half a slug, which, as Lupin points out, is not nearly as scary.
** In the third book, Lupin tells an anecdote about a [[I Know What You Fear|boggart]] that came across two people at once; one was most afraid of flesh-eating slugs and the other was most afraid of headless corpses. The boggart, possibly attempting to combine "slug" and "headless", turned into half a slug, which, as Lupin points out, is not nearly as scary.
* Subverted in the [[Judgment of Solomon]] from the Old Testament. Two women each claim to be a boy's mother. Solomon cannot tell who is lying, so he declares that he will cut the baby in half and give each woman her 'share.' The boy's true mother gives up her claim so that the child lives, which reveals who truly loved him. Subverted in that Solomon never intended this as a legitimate solution but only a trap to catch out the liar, leading to the phrase "splitting the baby" when someone destroys the subject of a dispute rather than assign it to one party.
* Subverted in the [[Judgment of Solomon]] from the Old Testament. Two women each claim to be a boy's mother. Solomon cannot tell who is lying, so he declares that he will cut the baby in half and give each woman her 'share.' The boy's true mother gives up her claim so that the child lives, which reveals who truly loved him. Subverted in that Solomon never intended this as a legitimate solution but only a trap to catch out the liar, leading to the phrase "splitting the baby" when someone destroys the subject of a dispute rather than assign it to one party.
* Neatly illustrated by [[Samuel Johnson]] in ''The History of Rasselas''. Rasselas falls prey to this fallacy, and is called on it by his sister Nekayah (quoting their friend, the poet Imlac):
* Neatly illustrated by [[Samuel Johnson]] in ''The History of Rasselas''. Rasselas falls prey to this fallacy, and is called on it by his sister Nekayah (quoting their friend, the poet Imlac):
{{quote|"'Nature sets her gifts on the right hand and on the left.' Those conditions which flatter hope and attract desire are so constituted that as we approach one we recede from another. There are goods so opposed that we cannot seize both, but by too much prudence may pass between them at too great a distance to reach either."}}
{{quote|"'Nature sets her gifts on the right hand and on the left.' Those conditions which flatter hope and attract desire are so constituted that as we approach one we recede from another. There are goods so opposed that we cannot seize both, but by too much prudence may pass between them at too great a distance to reach either."}}


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== Tabletop Games ==
== Tabletop Games ==
* ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'': The [[True Neutral]] alignment, which started out as people who are dedicated to maintaining balance, to the point that they'll switch sides in the middle of battle. Druids had this alignment the most. True Neutral changed to what Absolute Neutral (or just "Neutral") used to be: people with no strong convictions toward any side of good or evil and law or chaos. Creatures without intelligence and people with profound apathy would have this alignment. Fourth Edition calls this "Unaligned."
* ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'': The [[True Neutral]] alignment, which started out as people who are dedicated to maintaining balance, to the point that they'll switch sides in the middle of battle. Druids had this alignment the most. True Neutral changed to what Absolute Neutral (or just "Neutral") used to be: people with no strong convictions toward any side of good or evil and law or chaos. Creatures without intelligence and people with profound apathy would have this alignment. Fourth Edition calls this "Unaligned."




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* [http://www.idrewthis.org/d/20070815.html This comic strip] offers a wry comment on the subject.
* [http://www.idrewthis.org/d/20070815.html This comic strip] offers a wry comment on the subject.
** It also unintentionally illustrates how the [[Golden Mean Fallacy]] is frequently abused by people who are too lazy or cowardly to defend their own ideas. Say, for example, if you can just make everyone think that "their" beliefs are inherently wrong (like, say, [[Deliberately Bad Example|equating an opposing viewpoint to blending kittens]]), you don't have to explain why ''yours'' are right.
** It also unintentionally illustrates how the [[Golden Mean Fallacy]] is frequently abused by people who are too lazy or cowardly to defend their own ideas. Say, for example, if you can just make everyone think that "their" beliefs are inherently wrong (like, say, [[Deliberately Bad Example|equating an opposing viewpoint to blending kittens]]), you don't have to explain why ''yours'' are right.
* Also parodied in [http://xkcd.com/690/ this] ''[[Xkcd]]'' cartoon. And directly called out in [http://xkcd.com/774/ this] one.
* Also parodied in [http://xkcd.com/690/ this] ''[[Xkcd]]'' cartoon. And directly called out in [http://xkcd.com/774/ this] one.
* This is how politics works in ''[[Sore Thumbs]]''.
* This is how politics works in ''[[Sore Thumbs]]''.
* ''[[Dinosaur Comics]]'' Presents: [http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=216 Logical Fallacy Comics]
* ''[[Dinosaur Comics]]'' Presents: [http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=216 Logical Fallacy Comics]
* Abe from [[Thinkin' Lincoln]] [http://www.thinkin-lincoln.com/index.php?strip_id=112 tries to find some middle ground.]
* Abe from [[Thinkin' Lincoln]] [http://www.thinkin-lincoln.com/index.php?strip_id=112 tries to find some middle ground.]
* ''[[Jesus and Mo]]'' have reached [http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/11/16/sober/ that precarious and profound middle ground between being extremely drunk and extremely sober].
* ''[[Jesus and Mo]]'' have reached [http://www.jesusandmo.net/2010/11/16/sober/ that precarious and profound middle ground between being extremely drunk and extremely sober].


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** A part of the treaty was that Germany could not possess an army of more than 100k infantry, which would be suicidal to go to war with. The problem with the treaty is more likely to have been that it leaned too hard towards the French standpoint (squash ze Germans!) while not having the support in the US or GB to be followed through in later years. A good example of the disaster the treaty was is that the attempted alleviation of the harsh terms, the League of Nations (precursor to the UN), failed to secure membership of the US and Soviets. Since Germany was barred from entering, this meant that almost half of the great powers were not part of the League, making it a useless formality at best.
** A part of the treaty was that Germany could not possess an army of more than 100k infantry, which would be suicidal to go to war with. The problem with the treaty is more likely to have been that it leaned too hard towards the French standpoint (squash ze Germans!) while not having the support in the US or GB to be followed through in later years. A good example of the disaster the treaty was is that the attempted alleviation of the harsh terms, the League of Nations (precursor to the UN), failed to secure membership of the US and Soviets. Since Germany was barred from entering, this meant that almost half of the great powers were not part of the League, making it a useless formality at best.
*** Germany joined the League of Nations in 1926, the Soviet Union (founded in 1922) in 1934. From the French POV the problem with the Versailles settlement was that it was left incomplete because the defense treaties with the UK and the US that were supposed to guarantee French security did not come about after the US Congress failed to ratify the Versailles Treaty (which from the French POV leaned too much to the American, or more specifically President Wilson's standpoint) and the entrance of the US into the League of Nations. This gave the British government the pretext it needed not to enter into a permanent defensive alliance with France either, and that in turn caused French policy towards Germany to be much more confrontational because until the mid-1920s it was felt they had to use their transient military superiority to improve a situation largely determined by the much larger population and industrial strength of Germany.
*** Germany joined the League of Nations in 1926, the Soviet Union (founded in 1922) in 1934. From the French POV the problem with the Versailles settlement was that it was left incomplete because the defense treaties with the UK and the US that were supposed to guarantee French security did not come about after the US Congress failed to ratify the Versailles Treaty (which from the French POV leaned too much to the American, or more specifically President Wilson's standpoint) and the entrance of the US into the League of Nations. This gave the British government the pretext it needed not to enter into a permanent defensive alliance with France either, and that in turn caused French policy towards Germany to be much more confrontational because until the mid-1920s it was felt they had to use their transient military superiority to improve a situation largely determined by the much larger population and industrial strength of Germany.
** Perhaps the best interpretation of the Treaty of Versailles is that it was a toss-up between British pragmatism, American idealism and French revanchism, and ended up trying to be all three and failing at each one.
** Perhaps the best interpretation of the Treaty of Versailles is that it was a toss-up between British pragmatism, American idealism and French revanchism, and ended up trying to be all three and failing at each one.
* There are many branches of science that are seen as controversial by laymen but are, in reality, grounded in a lot of evidence. As a result, people will often try to find a common ground behind science that works and quackery that doesn't, sometimes with disastrous results. Take, for example, medicine, which is "controversial" because of influences like the pharmaceutical industry, so often well-meaning newscasters will, "for balance", hold a debate between an accredited medical professionals and (often unqualified) alternative medicine advocates, even though [[Tim Minchin|if alternative medicine were to work, it'd just be called "medicine"]].
* There are many branches of science that are seen as controversial by laymen but are, in reality, grounded in a lot of evidence. As a result, people will often try to find a common ground behind science that works and quackery that doesn't, sometimes with disastrous results. Take, for example, medicine, which is "controversial" because of influences like the pharmaceutical industry, so often well-meaning newscasters will, "for balance", hold a debate between an accredited medical professionals and (often unqualified) alternative medicine advocates, even though [[Tim Minchin|if alternative medicine were to work, it'd just be called "medicine"]].
* This can be a problem in wikis ([[Repeatedly Used On This Very Wiki|just like the one you're reading!]]) - two opposed people get in an [[Edit War]], and the only ways to appease them both are (a) come up with something halfway between the two, or (b) have the article [[Conversation On the Main Page|contradict itself]].
* This can be a problem in wikis ([[Repeatedly Used On This Very Wiki|just like the one you're reading!]]) - two opposed people get in an [[Edit War]], and the only ways to appease them both are (a) come up with something halfway between the two, or (b) have the article [[Conversation On the Main Page|contradict itself]].
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