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* Another early example is in ''[[Adventures of Huckleberry Finn]]''. See Huck's description of (the late) Emmeline Grangerford in Chapter XVII.
* Another early example is in ''[[Adventures of Huckleberry Finn]]''. See Huck's description of (the late) Emmeline Grangerford in Chapter XVII.
* In the [[Discworld]] novels, Susan Sto Helit]] may be [[Deadpan Snarker|sarcastic]] about "idiots who write poetry in their rooms and dress like vampires and are vegetarians really", she certainly fits elements of the trope herself. The young witches of <s>Lucy</s> Diamanda Tockley's coven in ''Lords and Ladies'' (referred to as "necro-nerds" in the ''Companion'') might count, although they seem to be more the "fashion statement" type.
* In the [[Discworld]] novels, Susan Sto Helit]] may be [[Deadpan Snarker|sarcastic]] about "idiots who write poetry in their rooms and dress like vampires and are vegetarians really", she certainly fits elements of the trope herself. The young witches of <s>Lucy</s> Diamanda Tockley's coven in ''Lords and Ladies'' (referred to as "necro-nerds" in the ''Companion'') might count, although they seem to be more the "fashion statement" type.
** And let's not forget the young vampires in ''Carpe Jugulum'', who try to freak out their elders by wearing bright clothes, stay up 'til noon, and call themselves names like "Henry" or "Pam". They even pretend to drink... [[I Do Not Drink Wine|wine]], although only "real weirdos who file their teeth blunt" actually do. They also spend their days dressing up as accountants...
** And let's not forget the young vampires in ''Carpe Jugulum'', who try to freak out their elders by wearing bright clothes, stay up 'til noon, and call themselves names like "Henry" or "Pam". They even pretend to drink... [[I Do Not Drink... Wine|wine]], although only "real weirdos who file their teeth blunt" actually do. They also spend their days dressing up as accountants...
* Similar to the above example, the rebellious kids of the vampire dimension in Robert Asprin's ''Myth'' series express themselves by wearing bright colors and partying in brightly lit clubs. There's also a market for plastic-human teeth, if you want to scare somebody.
* Similar to the above example, the rebellious kids of the vampire dimension in Robert Asprin's ''Myth'' series express themselves by wearing bright colors and partying in brightly lit clubs. There's also a market for plastic-human teeth, if you want to scare somebody.
* Severus Snape In ''[[Harry Potter]]''. [[Deadpan Snarker]]? Check. Family drama (namely, abusive father and (possibly) negligent mother)? Check. Nihilist? Check... As a teenager. ([[Alternate Character Interpretation|At least, he comes off as one at times.]]) Wears all black and is an [[Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette]]? Double-check; cosmetic though they may be, they certainly help qualify him. And if the sub-plot with {{spoiler|Lily being his lost love}} doesn't do it, nothing does.
* Severus Snape In ''[[Harry Potter]]''. [[Deadpan Snarker]]? Check. Family drama (namely, abusive father and (possibly) negligent mother)? Check. Nihilist? Check... As a teenager. ([[Alternate Character Interpretation|At least, he comes off as one at times.]]) Wears all black and is an [[Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette]]? Double-check; cosmetic though they may be, they certainly help qualify him. And if the sub-plot with {{spoiler|Lily being his lost love}} doesn't do it, nothing does.
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* Vivian Wu from ''[[Naturally, Sadie]]''.
* Vivian Wu from ''[[Naturally, Sadie]]''.
* One episode of ''[[Frasier]]'' showed that visiting teenage son Frederick had adopted the goth look. Frasier was annoyed that Lilith hadn't told him.
* One episode of ''[[Frasier]]'' showed that visiting teenage son Frederick had adopted the goth look. Frasier was annoyed that Lilith hadn't told him.
* ''[[Home Improvement]]''
* ''[[Home Improvement (TV series)|Home Improvement]]''
** The youngest son adopted a goth look in his teens, complete with makeup and lip ring.
** The youngest son adopted a goth look in his teens, complete with makeup and lip ring.
** There was an episode where the family's at a poetry reading for Wilson, and a goth girl goes up to read/recite her poetry:
** There was an episode where the family's at a poetry reading for Wilson, and a goth girl goes up to read/recite her poetry:
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** The Sluagh from ''[[Changeling: The Dreaming]]'' take pretty much every goth stereotype and roll them into one big slithery, whispering, spider-loving package.
** The Sluagh from ''[[Changeling: The Dreaming]]'' take pretty much every goth stereotype and roll them into one big slithery, whispering, spider-loving package.
** Even stronger than that were the Hollow Ones from ''[[Mage: The Ascension]]''. One of the common critiques of the Hollowers was "Goth is not a paradigm." However, the "Tradition" as a whole had derived from urban subcultures since the days of the flappers, dealt heavily in the Goth subculture but was not defined by it in modern days, and had the guiding ethos of, "We don't believe in anything, really, [[Clap Your Hands If You Believe|but if others believe in it, that means we can use it]]."
** Even stronger than that were the Hollow Ones from ''[[Mage: The Ascension]]''. One of the common critiques of the Hollowers was "Goth is not a paradigm." However, the "Tradition" as a whole had derived from urban subcultures since the days of the flappers, dealt heavily in the Goth subculture but was not defined by it in modern days, and had the guiding ethos of, "We don't believe in anything, really, [[Clap Your Hands If You Believe|but if others believe in it, that means we can use it]]."
* ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' has an ork clan (more of a subspecies/ideology than a group) known as the Goffs. They are grim and dour and dislike bright colors. Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka is a member of this clan.
* ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' has an ork clan (more of a subspecies/ideology than a group) known as the Goffs. They are grim and dour and dislike bright colors. Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka is a member of this clan.




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** Duncan seems to fit the Lone Psycho Goth more, although he's arguably considered to be a punk rather than a Goth.
** Duncan seems to fit the Lone Psycho Goth more, although he's arguably considered to be a punk rather than a Goth.
*** Speaking of those two, there are many fans that [[Fan-Preferred Couple|pair the two]]. {{spoiler|In the first few episodes of Total Drama Action, they start getting along really well because of their similarities. Enough to make Gwen's actual boyfriend Trent [[Love Makes You Crazy|jealous and kinda nuts.]] }}
*** Speaking of those two, there are many fans that [[Fan-Preferred Couple|pair the two]]. {{spoiler|In the first few episodes of Total Drama Action, they start getting along really well because of their similarities. Enough to make Gwen's actual boyfriend Trent [[Love Makes You Crazy|jealous and kinda nuts.]] }}
* An episode of ''[[Sixteen]]'' had one of the characters dress up as a Goth to try to retain his girlfriend, who was on a Goth kick. In the same episode, the regular cast and a bunch of goths (most of whom were posers) were trapped together in the Mall after a power outage. While it had the typical Goth jokes, the episode had the two groups more or less accepting each other.
* An episode of ''[[6teen]]'' had one of the characters dress up as a Goth to try to retain his girlfriend, who was on a Goth kick. In the same episode, the regular cast and a bunch of goths (most of whom were posers) were trapped together in the Mall after a power outage. While it had the typical Goth jokes, the episode had the two groups more or less accepting each other.
** Though ironically, the episode does end on an unusual gloomy note after the not-really-goth couple breaks up.
** Though ironically, the episode does end on an unusual gloomy note after the not-really-goth couple breaks up.
* Ingrid from ''[[Fillmore]]''. Although, unlike most examples, her goth-ness isn't some sort of defining characteristic. She just happens to like dressing in black and has black hair.
* Ingrid from ''[[Fillmore!]]''. Although, unlike most examples, her goth-ness isn't some sort of defining characteristic. She just happens to like dressing in black and has black hair.
* Not quite a Lone Psycho Goth (she has a boyfriend and a small clique of Goth friends), Chloe Crashman from ''[[Carl Squared]]'' could be the poster girl for the Angry Goth.
* Not quite a Lone Psycho Goth (she has a boyfriend and a small clique of Goth friends), Chloe Crashman from ''[[Carl Squared]]'' could be the poster girl for the Angry Goth.
* Creepie Creecher, from ''[[Growing Up Creepie]]''. She also has a cadre of goth friends/acquaintances. None are really portrayed negatively.
* Creepie Creecher, from ''[[Growing Up Creepie]]''. She also has a cadre of goth friends/acquaintances. None are really portrayed negatively.
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