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* And that's why he forgets everything.

 

All wizards work by chanting incantations. These incantations first have to be spoken, or the thought of speaking them must cross the mind of the wizard. This thought triggers the firing of nerves, thus producing the desired effect. If you know how biotics work, it works about the same way, except in [[Mass Effect]], element zero is needed as a catalyst. In the wizarding community, since their ability is genetic, their neural structure allows them to create effects on the real world. Things like fire, simply the creation of a high density area where friction increases a great deal causing the oxygen to ignite. Unspoken magic? Simple. The non-verbal triggering of the neural structure.

 

[[Harry Potter]] is told from the point of view of the wizarding world and Bewitched is told from the point of view of the muggles.

* Wrong way round, old bean. See, the witches of Bewitched essentially had a mortal writer come up with the stories of the Harry Potter books so that the next time somebody caught sight of them using their powers, they wouldn't immediately recognise the genie-like powers of the witch in question. That way, they avoid a kneejerk response for at least long enough to erase the mortal's memory or convince them to pretend that nothing happened.

* If Luna is a [[Claymore]], then who's 'her' Raki? [[Wild Mass Guessing|Neville Longbottom]] or [[Harry Potter]]?

 

Look at the nose! The nose! And they're both always ridiculously irritated by stupidity, and misanthropic, and trapped in jobs with people they hate!

* After his life near the Pineapple under the Sea, he wandered the post-apocalyptic world for ages, until he got a job as a [[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann|Beastman for Lord Genome]]! That's why he has that cameo for a few seconds in that one episode! Severus Snape -> Squidward Tentacles -> Beastman Cameo. Poor guy can never get a break...

** Uh, Luna is eccentric and Zen-like, not emotionless, and don't confuse Cho Chang with [[Battlestar Galactica|Boomer]] - Cho just has poor taste in friends (the book) and was slipped Veritaserum (the movie). Besides, a more appropriate allegory would be that young Dumbledore is Shinji (or maybe Asuka, he ''was'' that full of himself), Grindelwald is Kaworu (the poisonous best friend/love interest), and Ariana is Rei (emotionally stunted girl with access to uncontrollable power). Dumbledore's sincere attempts to change the world "for the greater good" nearly helped destroy it.

 

The Cowardly Lion/Gryffindor-Courage (Bonus points because Gryffindor's symbol is a lion)

 

*** Killing East was at most manslaughter (unintentional killing, by most definitions,) and likely not that because the house crushing the witch wasn't caused by any action on Dorothy's part. But West was murder in the second degree (intentional, but not premeditated) by most legal codes in America. But West was in self-defense, so that would have been accepted as mitigation.

**** Maybe not even that: Dorothy has absolutely no idea what effect water has on Wicked Witches.

**** Not to mention that East was killed by having a tornado drop Dorothy's house on her from another country/dimension. Pretty sure that Dorothy is pretty much faultless in that, legally speaking.

* Guys. Slytherin represents the ''Wizard''. Ambitious, morally ambiguous (at best), maintained his power through cleverness, guile, and bluffing shows of power, and obsessed with the color green.

== James Potter, Harry's father, is descended from family in the United States ==

* This may explain why almost no immediate Potter relative is on hand to take in the newly orphaned Harry, as there seem to be none left in England, and no one thinks to check overseas. Yes the Potters were a known wizard family, but they may have been dying out due to inbreeding. James' parents had been part of the American branch, but may have decided to move back to England in order to take advantage of managing the affairs of the fading English Potter branch.

** There may be more Muggles in the American line, and they may have been responsible for keeping their more magical relations in low profile.

** James could be just as domineering as his distant uncle when he wanted to be.

 

== Wizards regularly get together and raid Japan for magic and magical artifacts ==

* "Saber Kills Dumbledore!"

** Hey, how would Berserker be affected by the Killing Curse? A new standard of deadliness for the Killing Curse; how many of Berserker's lives can you take with one shot.

 

BRIGHTSLAP!

* Possibly met in an accident involving Time-Turners. As usual for the bloody things.

*** Alternatively again, after drinking the Water of Life, he had to resort to a Horcrux.

 

In the first chapter of HBP, the nameless PM refers to his predecessor as "him", even though the PM at that time would have been John Major, who was preceeded by Margret Thatcher. However, if the HBP PM is the protagonist of ''House of Cards'' (which takes place at about the same time as the Potter books), this allows for the short tenure of Harry Collingridge, F.U.'s immediate predecessor.

* Furthermore, HBP also has a minor character named Urquhart - in Slytherin, the House of scheming and skulduggery, which are characteristcs both Francis Urquhart and the PM in HBP have in spades.

* I love this theory so much I'm adopting it as my personal interpretation of canon. Thanks!

 

Voldemort has a powerful mastery of magic (opposed by only Dumbledore by the fifth book and only by Harry in the seventh). He has semi-skeletal features (although liches might work differently in this game.) He even has a version of a phylactery: The Horcrux. Given that liches usually only have one phylactery, the fact that Voldy has ''seven of them'' makes him even more imposing.

* Yeah, I noticed a lot of stuff in Harry Potter seems to be renamed stuff from DnD. Inferi? Zombies. God knows what else. Seriously, why didn't Rowling just call them zombies?

 

== Harry Potter is an AU [[Naruto]] ==

* If Minerva is Tsunade, that would mean Dumbledore and Grindelwald were Jiraiya and Orochimaru, which raises some [[Dirty Old Man|interesting]] [[Ho Yay|questions]]. Like what the wizarding version of Icha Icha Paradise was. Karkaroff could easily be the Kazekage, but slightly more of a coward in that {{spoiler|he didn't have to be made into a skinsuit to completely betray the main character's village/school}}.

 

 

== [[G.I. Joe|Cobra Commander]] is totally Voldemort's alternate dimension counterpart. ==

 

 

* At some point in the distant past, the last Overlord fell to a group of wizards. One of the spoils was the Brown Minion hive, as well as a few surviving Blues (the other hives were either destroyed or otherwise lost). The wizards and their descendants, through breeding and magical experimentation, developed the first house elves from this stock. The only major snag in this theory is the Blue's ability to ressurect the dead, something the HP canon states is impossible.

 

** This is now my personal canon. [[Engaging Conversation|Marry]] [[Geeky Turn On|me]].

 

It could happen.

* Likely untrue, but if it were, it might finally bring peace among Harry Potter and Twilight fans.

 

== A boggart in a Muggle [[Star Trek|Trekkie's]] home could end the world. ==

* When Lupin's boggart took on the form of the full moon, it was only a mini-moon which didn't turn him into a werewolf. While boggarts do take on the abilities of their form as with dementors, there are clearly limits.

** Yes, because a minature Crystalline Entity is so much less threatening.

**** The HP wiki says that a shapeshifted boggart is as powerful as the form they take, so a Crystal-thingy boggart would be as powerful as a real crystal thingy.

**** Your forgeting that boggarts can only do things that are magically possible in the Harry Potter universe, which doesn't inculde destroying a planet, or whatever the Crystalline Entity does.

** Everything that catches the form of an Angel becomes an Angel itself...

== If Tom Riddle had been sorted into Ravenclaw instead of Slytherin, he still would have been evil. Just a different sort ==

Imagine it. He wasn't, likely, as smart as the other Ravenclaws so he'd be looked down on by his peers just as much. He'd still turn to evil, but rather than having a burning need for power, it would be to show off his mind. Rather than taking a name that made himself sound like a pureblood, he'd have gone with something that was about his intelligence. Given his last name, perhaps something like 'The Riddler'. Now, without the Dark Lord acting as a terrorist force, there would've been no war, just more of the same corruption we see in the first few books.

**** They were best friends at one point. You're supposed to love your best friends, even if not romantically.

***** Yes, but the poster above is implying ''romantic'' love. Lily did care about Snape at one point, she probably even did care a bit after he ruined their friendship, but that doesn't mean that if James was removed from the equation Harry would have greasy hair and a hook-like nose.

** Not at all. Riddle would have found A Lazarus Pit in his quest for immortality...

* I love this. Harry sees his parents' murder and is raised by Sirius. After finishing at Hogwarts he spends ten years travelling around the world, learning everything he can about the criminal mind, and honing the skills he'll need when he returns. When he comes back Sirius has moved on, and Lupin acts as the wise mentor, making sure no one suspects Harry Potter is more than just a [[Rich Idiot With No Day Job]]. His old muggle-born friend Hermione Granger acts as [[Mission Control]] (thanks to a number of inventions combining magic and technology together). And, of course, Neville Longbottom serves as Harry's contact at the Ministry of Magic, calling him when he needs with the aid of a mysterious signal. But he needs a disguise. Something... elemental. Something... terrifying...

*** You had to go and ruin it by making Ginny Batwoman/Catwoman/Batgirl. :( {{spoiler|I thought she'd play the role of Rachel Dawes (that doesn't necessarily means she gets killed, she's just something Harry has to sacrifice in order to continue as Batman).}}

**** Ginny is Catwoman. Hermione is Batgirl who is now Oracle.

*** Yeah, see, this is where it all falls apart. First of all, Arthur Weasley wouldn't be the Commissioner Gordon, because he's not part of the Aurors or MLE. He works in the Misuse of Muggle Artifacts Office, and he probably stays there until retirement. He likes it there. Secondly, Ron is a potential Commissioner, but in most continuities Gordon is much older than Bruce. It would have to be an older character, like Kingsley, or an OC. Thirdly, Ginny as Batgirl: No. This goes for Neville as well. They were junior partners, ''decades'' younger than Bruce. Not gonna happen, though potentially they could be their own superheroes... and fail miserably. Harry was trained by the League of Shadows and is one of the most accomplished duellers in the country, not to mention being quite intelligent when he's not distracted by Quidditch or girls. He doesn't ''need'' a sidekick, he needs a Lucius Fox/Oracle, which is why Hermione serves that role. She's absolutely brilliant, a certified genius, willing to help but not willing to get in the line of fire herself. Fourthly, Cedric Diggory as Harvent Dent... dunno. Wouldn't Percy be a better fit? Older, something of a prat, but a lawyer would be perfect for him. All those rules to enforce... and when he turns into Dent, it's a transformation from a man who believed entirely in the system and the rule of law, to one who believes in nothing but chance. Fifthly, I don't know about {{spoiler|Cho Chang as Grace/Rachel. Could work, I suppose.}} Sixthly, {{spoiler|Luna as a superhero? <s>GOD YES!</s> Dunno. Maybe she takes the role of [[Intrepid Reporter]] and figures out Harry's Batman through an unironic [[Bat Deduction]]. Hell, maybe she's Harry's love interest?}}

* Staying away from the Batman parallels for a minute...this makes a lot of sense. It's pretty easy to surmise (and widely accepted by fans) that each house is dangerous in its own way. Slytherins will torture you because they enjoy it. Ravenclaws will torture you because they want to study it, which means they are much more thorough and will go torture ten more people after you to have a sufficient sample size. Ravenclaws are probably about as likely to be sociopaths as Slytherins. Also, in an average room, there are 2,724 things a Ravenclaw can kill you with, including the room itself.

 

According to a cut chapter, Wonka makes a certain line of sweets designed to help children fake being sick to get off school. He favours a fantastical more explodey type of invention over efficiency. He is slightly sadistic to those who really deserve it and will go out of his way to tempt people into their own punishment.

* Brilliant!!!!

* He's a tad deaf in one ear.

 

The hallucinatory train station in the seventh book is some sort of boundary between the game board and the sea of kakera. By extension, he's playing against Neville, with the goal of beating Voldemort first. Ron and Hermione are his furniture.

 

And it wasn't ''in'' Massachusetts, it was just ''named after'' [[Name's the Same|Salem]].

 

The [[The Bible|other stuff]] was just normal people thinking he was the son of a God because they couldn't think of anything else. He was infact a wizard trying to teach magic to muggles.

* There used to be a fanfic in livejournal centered on McGonagall about the Wizard Version of Christianity and the Bible... I wonder where it is...

* And Soul Edge is being held in the Department of Mysteries, along with Soulcalibur.

 

Now the Killing Curse killed him before he could regenerate.

 

 

His beard is his TARDIS and Fawkes is his companion.

 

 

CHECKLIST:

 

** Or at least makes them a Jerkass.

 

You'll hate me for this.

* This belongs on the [[Darth Wiki]].

* Besides, Donald ''does'' go insane at the end of ''Clown of the Jungle,'' so Disney got that much right, at least.

 

Susan's husband and children died before her, because shes a Time Lord and can regenerate. Shes upset and uses a Tardis after becoming tired of waiting for her Grandfather. She lands in 1979 but her tardis is destroyed on the way and the tardis becomes a time-turner and can only use a little of Tardis's power, hence why it only goes back hours and we never saw her take a time-turner from the proffesor. Near death she regenerates into a tiny girl and is adopted by The Grangers, but the female Granger is actually the daughter of Susan's two teachers who became the Doctor's companions in the first series. So she regenerated into a witch at the time as well. Years pass and she regenerates again before her fourth year (the movies show this by having her transformation from a mousy brown haired child into a blonde gorgeous woman) Her new personality also becomes more let loose as the books describe as 'character devlopment'. The reason why she knows all of the knowledge needed was because she and the Doctor learned a lot about the wizarding world in their travels together. Her two companions are Harry and Ron and she modified the Granger's memories not only to protect Harry but also to protect her existance as a Time lord and her home planet. Also she has a bag thats bigger on the inside.

 

== After the last novel, Harry is sent back in time to the 1800's ==

 

== The Veil of Death... ==

* Is the [[Norse Mythology|Gleaming-bale]], the curtains of Hel!

 

A school for people who can use their universe's version of magic? It's an ancient structure with a reputation for being magnificent and has a town directly outside it? The people learning there sorted into groups that are reflections of their personalities and possibly skill? No sir, this doesn't sound like Tar Valon at all. Death Eaters? Darkfriends? Would Voldermort be one of the Forsaken? The markings that Voldemort gives his followers bear a similarity to how Alviarin was marked ( although her mark isn't directly visible ), as well as everyone being afraid to say Voldemort ( justified in the final book ) - when the Dark One is given his proper name, his attention is brought upon the speaker. When Rand challenges Shai'tan, the author says how a presence was definitely felt.

 

When I first saw ''[[Skins]]'' recently, I could not get over how much Tony reminded me of the teenage Voldemort. He was charismatic, intelligent, good at just about everything he did, charming - and yet also a complete sociopath. (At least Tony was before {{spoiler|getting hit by the bus}}. Maybe that's what Voldemort needed?) And while Voldemort didn't have the ability to love, it didn't say anything about how he felt about sex. For all we know, he was screwing every girl and/or guy at Hogwarts and then tearing their hearts to bits once he didn't need them anymore.

 

 

Magic was originally granted to everyone who was willing to make a contract with the Incubators on their first visit thousands of years ago. This was then passed down genetically, creating the current community of magic users. Voldemort's lust for power led him to become the only "true" wizard, with darkness consuming him entirely. The Second Wizarding War was the culmination of the Incubators' recent efforts, resulting in an abundance of useable energy. To support this, the orignal Death Eaters were called the Knights of Walpurgis, a play on the Walpurgisnacht.

* This is now in my personal because canon 1) I find Puella Magi Madoka Magica to be [[So Cool Its Awesome]], 2) this makes Harry Potter creepier, [[Nightmare Fetishist|which I like]], 3) wands remind me of Soul Gems, 4) Dumbledore's hair resembles Kyubey's ears and 5) (spoilers if you haven't seen episode 8) {{spoiler|that would make Voldemort the witch form of Tom Riddle.}}

 

...And Harry is Alice. {{spoiler|In Through the Looking-Glass, the Red King dreams reality. Now, remember that King’s Cross scene in Deathly Hallows? Well, what if the reason that Dumbledore was there was because it was all part of his dream…except Harry was dreaming him dreaming Harry’s dream. Dumbledore’s death symbolised his waking up, so that means Harry is the one who’s dream it is. Or is it? Anyway, that means that NOTHING that happened in all the books leading up to the Kings Cross scene actually happened. The only real bits are after Harry wakes up. Perhaps Dumbledore is God, testing Harry so he can proceed on to reality.}} This would work, since Lewis Carroll was a very religious person. And I’m religious too, so I just like to work God into things. See? It makes perfect sense!

 

* Well you can't say either one of ames. They both have magic powers. And if I looked like that, I would wear a sack over my head.

 

* Both guys had an obsession with the same girl, one was an incredible stalker and very creepy, while the other was an obsessive, possessive [[Jerkass]]. One was wildly accepted by society, the other severely ostracized. One watched from the shadows, while the other watched from nearby. They both bullied each other, mostly unprovoked, and both Phantom and Snape are given [[Draco in Leather Pants|leather pants]] thanks to their actors, and both Raoul and James are hated and regarded as the worst choices between the two, though both have their share of fans. James was handsome and well-loved, while Phantom and Snape were the opposite. One lost his love forever, while the other scored that love. One made his love leave him by his actions, while the other charmed her. The relationships parallel those from [[Phantom of the Opera]], except that Raoul and SNAPE were the childhood friends, rather than Raoul and James.

 

Think about it.

Clumsy girl falls in love with supernatural creature. They reproduce, and the clumsy girl is critically injured.

or,

b. Twilight

 

Interview of Flint asserts that Cho married a nameless Muggle. How did he lose his name?

 

== When you combine the 3 deathly hallows they become the [[The Lord of the Rings|One Ring]]. ==

The One Ring gives you great power, makes you turn invisible and makes you "see dead people". These are also esentially the powers of the hallows.

* Or the magical witness protection only altered the Dursley's race!

** or he pissed off Ginny enough that she permanently changed his skin colour. (Harry's too passive to actually do anything if Dudley insulted him some more)

To a lion, who is actually an Animagus, named [[Chuck Norris|Chuck]]...

 

 

== Cedric Diggory is Edward Cullen ==

 

== The hate for Parselmouths stems due the Corinthians' propaganda against [[Greek Mythology|Medea]]/Medea's [[Roaring Rampage of Revenge]] going out of hands ==

Alternatively, Medea's revenge went out of hands: in myth she caused an earthquake that destroyed Corinth, set the ruins on fire and [[Up to Eleven|struck the survivors with a plague]]. But what if the plague went out of control? After all, werewolves started as a Greek legend, and in the Potterverse they ARE a plague. Between her and Herpo the Foul, Parselmouths got a bad reputation in Greece, a reputation that in time was spread.

In both cases, Parselmouths got an horrible reputation in Western Europe but not in some other parts of the world, particularly Georgia (Medea's homeland) and the rest of the former Russian Empire, where more positive Parselmouths are known and Medea is held in high regards for her works as an healer.

 

== [[Harry Potter]] is fictional and has nothing to do with other fictional works ==

== The series takes place in a world where the Greco-Roman gods are real. ==

All the creatures are real (though some [[A Kind of One|seem to have been replicated]]), and it's mentioned in some background material that characters such as Circe, Odysseus, and Polyphemus were real. It's possible, too, that the famed Deathly Hallows were literal gifts from Death (who could, depending on the circumstance, be [[Everybody Hates Hades|Hades]], [[Psychopomp|Hermes]], or [[The Grim Reaper|Orcus]]). On an out-of-universe note, J.K.Rowling is a big fan and scholar of Greek mythology, so there's a possibility.

 

== Luna's husband, Rolf Scamander is Rolf from Ed, Edd n Eddy. ==

 

== The HP-verse's [[Masquerade]] is the parent-Masquerade to all other Masquerades. ==

 

 

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