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The Silents stalk Neville.

  • And that's why he forgets everything.

Magic works like Biotics from Mass Effect

All wizards work by chanting incantations. These incantations first have to be spoken, or the thought of speaking them must cross the mind of the wizard. This thought triggers the firing of nerves, thus producing the desired effect. If you know how biotics work, it works about the same way, except in Mass Effect, element zero is needed as a catalyst. In the wizarding community, since their ability is genetic, their neural structure allows them to create effects on the real world. Things like fire, simply the creation of a high density area where friction increases a great deal causing the oxygen to ignite. Unspoken magic? Simple. The non-verbal triggering of the neural structure.

Harry Potter and Bewitched are in the same universe and continuum.

Harry Potter is told from the point of view of the wizarding world and Bewitched is told from the point of view of the muggles.

  • Wrong way round, old bean. See, the witches of Bewitched essentially had a mortal writer come up with the stories of the Harry Potter books so that the next time somebody caught sight of them using their powers, they wouldn't immediately recognise the genie-like powers of the witch in question. That way, they avoid a kneejerk response for at least long enough to erase the mortal's memory or convince them to pretend that nothing happened.

Luna Lovegood is a Claymore

  • Luna is noted to have blonde hair and grey eyes, and seems to see things that others do not. A possible explanation is that she is actually a Claymore and sensing the youkai of others. As for where her sword went...
  • If Luna is a Claymore, then who's 'her' Raki? Neville Longbottom or Harry Potter?

Severus Snape was reincarnated as Squidward.

Look at the nose! The nose! And they're both always ridiculously irritated by stupidity, and misanthropic, and trapped in jobs with people they hate!

  • After his life near the Pineapple under the Sea, he wandered the post-apocalyptic world for ages, until he got a job as a Beastman for Lord Genome! That's why he has that cameo for a few seconds in that one episode! Severus Snape -> Squidward Tentacles -> Beastman Cameo. Poor guy can never get a break...
  • http://makani.deviantart.com/art/snapeward-11126502 – It just works!

The world in Harry Potter is a fantasy of Shinji from Neon Genesis Evangelion.

Harry is a skinny Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette kid who is perfectly normal aside from being destined to save the world with magic. Shinji is the same, only he's supposed to save the world with the products of Science. HPverse magic causes Science-powered things to go haywire, and so the EVAs could never have been created. The entirety of the HP story occurred before Second Impact. Characters include Hermione (then later Ginny) being Asuka, Voldemort being the messed-up bit of himself that Shinji can't handle (soul-swapping, anyone?), and James Potter's death at the hands of Voldemort and later reverence is Shinji's lust for patricide and inability to accept it. Ron (replaced by George, because Shinji [but not necessarily Harry] was gay for Ron) is the kid from his school that gets himself killed fighting an Angel in Shinji's place, and the bit at the end of book 7 at wherever the mental King's Cross Station was had been a projection of Instrumentality and an aside to the entirety of Harry Potter being a not-quite death hallucination. HP contains only hints at Rei, and no direct references, because Rei, quite frankly, freaked the hell out of him.

  • Hints at Rei? Luna Lovegood is what Rei could be if she was in the magic world instead of being a disposable clone! And Cho Chang might be Kaworu - someone he trusted and loved who just was a traitor.
    • Uh, Luna is eccentric and Zen-like, not emotionless, and don't confuse Cho Chang with Boomer - Cho just has poor taste in friends (the book) and was slipped Veritaserum (the movie). Besides, a more appropriate allegory would be that young Dumbledore is Shinji (or maybe Asuka, he was that full of himself), Grindelwald is Kaworu (the poisonous best friend/love interest), and Ariana is Rei (emotionally stunted girl with access to uncontrollable power). Dumbledore's sincere attempts to change the world "for the greater good" nearly helped destroy it.

Each of the Houses correspond to each of the four main characters of The Wizard of Oz.

The Cowardly Lion/Gryffindor-Courage (Bonus points because Gryffindor's symbol is a lion)

The Scarecrow/Ravenclaw-Intelligence

The Tinman/Hufflepuff-Heart

Dorothy/Slytherin-Sociopathy & Ambition (in a world almost paradisical, she wanted only to go home - and would go great lengths to do it)

    • Which ones? There was the accidental murder of the Wicked Witch of the East and the panicked murder of the Wicked Witch of the West, but...
      • Killing East was at most manslaughter (unintentional killing, by most definitions,) and likely not that because the house crushing the witch wasn't caused by any action on Dorothy's part. But West was murder in the second degree (intentional, but not premeditated) by most legal codes in America. But West was in self-defense, so that would have been accepted as mitigation.
        • Maybe not even that: Dorothy has absolutely no idea what effect water has on Wicked Witches.
          • Wicked (far as it is from Oz canon) suggested that Dorothy sought out the witch in order to apologise for accidentally killing her sister.
        • Not to mention that East was killed by having a tornado drop Dorothy's house on her from another country/dimension. Pretty sure that Dorothy is pretty much faultless in that, legally speaking.
  • Guys. Slytherin represents the Wizard. Ambitious, morally ambiguous (at best), maintained his power through cleverness, guile, and bluffing shows of power, and obsessed with the color green.

James Potter, Harry's father, is descended from family in the United States

  • This may explain why almost no immediate Potter relative is on hand to take in the newly orphaned Harry, as there seem to be none left in England, and no one thinks to check overseas. Yes the Potters were a known wizard family, but they may have been dying out due to inbreeding. James' parents had been part of the American branch, but may have decided to move back to England in order to take advantage of managing the affairs of the fading English Potter branch.
  • In particular James is kindred to the evil banker Henry F. Potter, who dominates Bedford Falls in It's a Wonderful Life. As that Potter was not known to have children, his wealth most likely would have been distributed among any surviving family, including the unknown parents/grandparents of James, possibly the true origin of the wealth ultimately left to Harry.
    • There may be more Muggles in the American line, and they may have been responsible for keeping their more magical relations in low profile.
    • James could be just as domineering as his distant uncle when he wanted to be.
    • The name "Harry" is often a variant on "Henry", James may have wanted to honor this wealthy relative he had never met.

Wizards regularly get together and raid Japan for magic and magical artifacts

They torched a city or two last time they were in town, about ten years ago, covered in Fate/stay night.

  • "Saber Kills Dumbledore!"
    • Hey, how would Berserker be affected by the Killing Curse? A new standard of deadliness for the Killing Curse; how many of Berserker's lives can you take with one shot.
  • Oh dear god, Bleach's Ichigo and the Reapers of the UG would have to work overtime to deal with that mess...

Sometime before the events of the final book, Neville runs into Noa Bright.

BRIGHTSLAP!

  • Possibly met in an accident involving Time-Turners. As usual for the bloody things.
    • Possibly during the raid on the Department of Mysteries, in Order of the Phoenix. (Did Neville get his nose broken in the text, or did he just show up with a broken nose? Bright may have had to slap him extra hard.)

Voldermort is a failed Kwisatz Haderach

Even though he's pretty nasty, he still hasn't managed to kill over sixty billion people.

  • And his physical appearance isn't from the Horcruxes. It's the long-term effects of Spice addiction.
    • Considering Spice won't be discovered for another ten thousand years, he's in a bit of a bind.
    • Alternatively, it's from mostly failing the Spice Agony test.
      • Alternatively again, after drinking the Water of Life, he had to resort to a Horcrux.

"The Other Minister" is Francis Urquhart

In the first chapter of HBP, the nameless PM refers to his predecessor as "him", even though the PM at that time would have been John Major, who was preceeded by Margret Thatcher. However, if the HBP PM is the protagonist of House of Cards (which takes place at about the same time as the Potter books), this allows for the short tenure of Harry Collingridge, F.U.'s immediate predecessor.

  • Furthermore, HBP also has a minor character named Urquhart - in Slytherin, the House of scheming and skulduggery, which are characteristcs both Francis Urquhart and the PM in HBP have in spades.
  • I love this theory so much I'm adopting it as my personal interpretation of canon. Thanks!

Voldemort is a lich.

Voldemort has a powerful mastery of magic (opposed by only Dumbledore by the fifth book and only by Harry in the seventh). He has semi-skeletal features (although liches might work differently in this game.) He even has a version of a phylactery: The Horcrux. Given that liches usually only have one phylactery, the fact that Voldy has seven of them makes him even more imposing.

  • Yeah, I noticed a lot of stuff in Harry Potter seems to be renamed stuff from DnD. Inferi? Zombies. God knows what else. Seriously, why didn't Rowling just call them zombies?
    • Counterpoint: why should she? You don't see Voldemort casting "Death Finger" a lot, do you? Beside, Inferis have some difference to classic zombies. To start, they don't infect living (at least, it's not said).
      • Uh, real zombies (by which I mean D&D zombies, not the pathetic corpses wandering about in Romero movies) don't infect living either, duh...
        • Real zombies (by which I mean formerly comatose people brain-damaged by lack of oxygen and poisonous chemicals, not corpses given the semblance of life by a necromancer) don't infect the living either. Please try to limit the condescension.
      • It's not Rowling herself who refuses to call a spade a spade: it's the wizards and witches. It's just like with their insistence on calling mind reading "legilimency" because of their bullshit "fine distinctions" in the term. A great deal of Truth in Television there, obviously.

Harry Potter is an AU Naruto

It might be possible. They live in a world where, apparently, their powers help in their very own technology. Harry is the chosen one and has a special mark that helps him out of troubles. Hermione is the curious girl that always is there to correct Nar—err, Harry. She never felt in love for Sasuke, i.e. Draco. Rony might be Neji or Sai, and Ginny is Hinata. Neville is either Chouji or Rock Lee, and Luna might be Ino, or Tenten. Snape is a traumatized Kakashi, and what would confirm the theory that the bigger villain is Orochimaru... Voldemort. Just look at him! Temporarily unable to fight until his loyal assistant/traitor recovers him. It makes one wonder if Minerva is Tsunade... Eww.

  • If Minerva is Tsunade, that would mean Dumbledore and Grindelwald were Jiraiya and Orochimaru, which raises some interesting questions. Like what the wizarding version of Icha Icha Paradise was. Karkaroff could easily be the Kazekage, but slightly more of a coward in that he didn't have to be made into a skinsuit to completely betray the main character's village/school.

Grindelwald is Kroenen

From the art book of The Movie: Karl Kroenen was blond, intelligent and curious, good at dueling (fencing), a skilled occultist, one of the men behind the man in the Nazi party, striving to enhance the human race (in a very gruesome way), most active during WW 2, able to grow ridiculously old, and nigh-impossible to kill. From Book 7: Gellert Grindelwald was blond, intelligent and curious, good at dueling, a skilled wizard, perhaps was THE man behind the man (see above), striving to protect the human (muggle) race (in a very totalitarian way), most active around WW 2, able to grow ridiculously old (in prison, granted, but still - he outlived Dumbledore by almost a year!), and very hard to kill (in his prime). That guy you saw in the Überwald prison tower? Just one of Karl Grindelwald's flesh puppets! He didn't die until a giant cog was dropped on him years later, and even then...!

Cobra Commander is totally Voldemort's alternate dimension counterpart.

Crossposted from the other WMG. Seriously, think about it. CC has a face that we never see but is said to be very scary and messed-up; he has a high-pitched, rasping voice; he's disturbingly obsessed with snakes; and he somehow started his own notorious, masked terrorist group from scratch, which became so powerful that it prompted the government to set aside a special group solely dedicated to trying to stop it. He also seems to come back no matter how many times he looks to be dead, and he is also a sadistic homicidal megalomaniac bent on turning the entire world over to his rule. He's exactly like Voldemort, except that he is a complete tool; but any number of factors in his universe could have caused that.

  • Such as his having started things as a used car salesman with a pyramid scheme, rather than a charismatic strongman taking advantage of racial biases.
    • Ah, but this makes sense. If Tom Riddle hadn't been a Wizard, he still would've been oily-charismatic. And what do people like that do? Sell Cars.

The magic in the series is just The Force

The Force runs through all living things, but only Force-Sensitive people can harness it. The same could be true for wizards and muggles. And if I'm not mistaken it IS possible to preform magic without a wand, just very difficult. The wands may just be antennae for channeling the Force. The wands could be made from Force sensitive trees. The wands choose the wizard, so they would be sharing a force link.

  • Maybe the force is just really weak in this galaxy, so wands are almost always necessary.
    • The "Star Wars" galaxy is the next one over.
  • Palpatine tells Anakin in "Sith" that he knows how to keep people from dying, but some consider it "to be... unnatural". Sounds a hell of a lot like a Horcrux to me...
  • This is Canon to me.

Wands attract Dust, which is how they work.

They're obviously conscious. They choose their master, they switch about (or don't) between people after duels and deaths according to methods humans don't truly understand, and at times they almost seem to act on their own.

Their consciousness lets them make decisions as to what they'll do after a duel; wands don't always switch alliegances. They often make the same decisions, which is what has allowed humans to think up the body of seeming-rules that makes wand-lore, but at times they violate them because they are not actual rules, just the frequent result of the wands' free will.

Further, they can act as a focus for humans' consciousness and will, amplifying it with their own and providing the power for magic.

Fanfic exists.


The House Elves are descended from a relic population of Minions

Apart from the physical similarities (mostly with regards to the Brown Minions), both species are described as slavish in their devotion to their masters, and with few exceptions, happy to carry out whatever tasks are assigned to them without any regard to their own station. Most of the psychotic energy of the original Minion bloodlines was translated into an even stronger work ethic (with regards to menial labor) and a slight increase in IQ in the various groups of House Elf, at the loss of the Minion's tolerance for abuse. House Elf magic is an offshoot of the Blue Minion's powers.

  • At some point in the distant past, the last Overlord fell to a group of wizards. One of the spoils was the Brown Minion hive, as well as a few surviving Blues (the other hives were either destroyed or otherwise lost). The wizards and their descendants, through breeding and magical experimentation, developed the first house elves from this stock. The only major snag in this theory is the Blue's ability to ressurect the dead, something the HP canon states is impossible.

Voldermort's first attempt at a horcrux left him horribly crippled and possibly temporarily amnesiac

Deaf and blind, he spent his convalescence playing pinball.

Neil Cicierega is the online name for Peeves the castle ghost when he does the "Potter Puppet Pals" show on youtube.

Peeves uses these vids as to vent out his frustrations of the other characters along with being a satirist and uses the castle House-Elves to be extras in the shows.

Parselmouths and the associated reputation for Dark Wizardry date back much farther than Salazar Slytherin, at least to to an age undreamed of, after the oceans drank Atlantis...

  • Voldermort is just the latest in a long line of snake-themed strangely compelling Dark Wizard warlords.
    • He'd honestly meant to kill Harry Potter in a more sensible manner, but he just was unable to make himself do it any other way.
      • It's a pity Harry was living in an modern industrialized nation; instead of rotting in the closet under the stairs, he could have been out in the fresh air, building muscle on the Wheel of Pain.
        • Hmm... that would make Ron a surfer, but Hermione would probably get killed by Nagini. And Cho or Luna would probably be some kind of Demon Witch.
          • Harry Potter and the Riddle of Steel!
    • And Voldermort's afraid of of Dumbledore...Dumbledore must have been absolutely ripped in his youth.
  • The Gryffindor's sword is the Atlantean Sword.
  • Runespoors are leftover creations from some old Dark Wizard.

Harry Potter is the past (or future) of Fullmetal Alchemist

Has anybody noticed that the wizarding world has alchemists, like Nicholas Flamel? Magic also seems to work like alchemy, and the Philosopher's Stone was invented.

  • Erm... you are aware that alchemy and the concept of the Philosopher's Stone are very old concepts, right? And that Flamel was a real person from the 14th/15th century known for being an attempted alchemist who Rowling adapted for the series?
    • Sssshhh.

(if the above is true) Voldemort didn't do his homework

He went through all that trouble to get a philosopher's stone when it's not really that hard to make your own. All that's required is the sacrifice of human lives in the ritual. Had Volde actually did a bit of research he would've known this and would've probably avoided getting defeated by an 11 year old armed only with a limited knowledge of magic and his mother's love.

Barty Crouch Jr. is a Time Lord - specifically, the Doctor under the influence of a Chameleon Arch.

Firstly, Actor Allusion. Secondly, during the trial of Karkaroff, Junior is seen wearing a suit that wouldn't have looked out of place on Paul McGann (or possibly William Hartnell), complete with fob watch if I remember correctly.

The fob watch contains the personality of a close-to-regeneration Twelvth Doctor, who's become almost completely crazy by this point but still retains enough sanity to know that a) he can change history, b) if he regenerates he might well become the Valeyard, being close enough already, and c) if the Time Lords get a hold of a Valeyard who can change history so he wins, It Will Get Worse.

So he's fobwatched himself. Being that this is the Doctor who will be distilled to create the Valeyard, the real Barty Crouch jr. is probably dead in a ditch somewhere. It would also account for his murderous tendencies throughout Goblet of Fire, during which his Valeyardine and Twelvish impulses leak through the reformat of his brain, as the sound of drums did with the Master even while he was Professor Yana.

Alternatively, Barty Crouch Jr. is the Doctor and is trying to prevent the creation of Edward Cullen, who is really Cedric possessed by an undead vampiric alien entity.

Again, Actor Allusion. The Tenth Doctor encountered Edward Cullen as a resurrected and brainwashed victim of alien "vampire" Carlisle Cullen at some point and went back in time to when Edward was created to prevent that horror from occurring. The real Crouch Jr. died in Azkaban, but the Doctor realized the similarity between the two and pretended to be him. His plan was to prevent Cedric Diggory from being entered at all in the Triwizard Tournament by entering Harry, but instead of fixing the Goblet of Fire so Harry would be picked as the Hogwarts champion, he accidentally made it so Harry was entered from a fourth school. Then he went out of his way to ensure that Harry would get the Triwizard Cup instead of Cedric. He still had to enchant the Cup because he had to act like Crouch Jr. or Voldemort would've realized that something was up. Unfortunately, Cedric still died and was resurrected by Carlisle, and the Doctor experienced Heroic BSOD when he realized that he had failed. Instead of being subjected to the Dementor's Kiss, he got away and used the TARDIS to get out of there.

    • This is now my personal canon. Marry me.

Sirius and Jacob Black are brothers.

It could happen.

  • Likely untrue, but if it were, it might finally bring peace among Harry Potter and Twilight fans.
  • It all makes sense now! Jacob isn't a werewolf, he's an Animagus!
  • Totally true. Jacob's name was just burned off of the family tree. And, in the Twilight books, Jacob can transform whenever he wants instead of only at the full moon(like a werewolf does), so it's also plausible that he is an animagus.

A boggart in a Muggle Trekkie's home could end the world.

We know that boggarts assume the powers of whatever form they take. So, if a trekkie's worst fear is the Crystalline Entity, the Planet Killer, or the macrovirus, well...

  • When Lupin's boggart took on the form of the full moon, it was only a mini-moon which didn't turn him into a werewolf. While boggarts do take on the abilities of their form as with dementors, there are clearly limits.
    • Yes, because a minature Crystalline Entity is so much less threatening.
    • It's possible that Werewolves don't really transform on the full moon. It's a magical virus that lays dormant for exactly 28 days, then springs up again turning the infected person into a werewolf. While dormant, the Virus is nontransferable. Everyone turns into a wolf on the full moon, because that's the only time they can get the virus.
      • Consider what happens in the home of an HP Lovecraft fan...
        • The HP wiki says that a shapeshifted boggart is as powerful as the form they take, so a Crystal-thingy boggart would be as powerful as a real crystal thingy.
        • Your forgeting that boggarts can only do things that are magically possible in the Harry Potter universe, which doesn't inculde destroying a planet, or whatever the Crystalline Entity does.
  • Now imagine a boggart in a Doctor Who fan's house (Weeping Angels, Cybermen, Daleks, that thing from Midnight and various other things on the Nightmare Fuel page)
    • Everything that catches the form of an Angel becomes an Angel itself...
    • There's worse. You know how Games Workshop is a British company....

If Tom Riddle had been sorted into Ravenclaw instead of Slytherin, he still would have been evil. Just a different sort

Imagine it. He wasn't, likely, as smart as the other Ravenclaws so he'd be looked down on by his peers just as much. He'd still turn to evil, but rather than having a burning need for power, it would be to show off his mind. Rather than taking a name that made himself sound like a pureblood, he'd have gone with something that was about his intelligence. Given his last name, perhaps something like 'The Riddler'. Now, without the Dark Lord acting as a terrorist force, there would've been no war, just more of the same corruption we see in the first few books. If James and Lilly were still to be killed, but not for a few years and infront of Harry while shopping in Diagon Ally, you have everything you need for... BATMAN.

  • No, that's Snape's job.
    • Actually, if there had been no war, then Lily probably would've realized she loved Snape, and married him instead of Jerkass James.
      • You know, just because Snape loved Lily, it doesn't mean she loved him as well. And James got a lot better in his Sixth and Seventh Years, he just made an exception for Snape (which, by all accounts, gave back as well as he got).
        • They were best friends at one point. You're supposed to love your best friends, even if not romantically.
          • Yes, but the poster above is implying romantic love. Lily did care about Snape at one point, she probably even did care a bit after he ruined their friendship, but that doesn't mean that if James was removed from the equation Harry would have greasy hair and a hook-like nose.
  • Interesting theory, except there's one problem—The Riddler isn't a cold-blooded killer. It would've been someone like Greyback or one of the Lestranges who were killing people during attempted muggings, since they had no-one to lead them. Riddle would've eventually been deformed, not by dividing his soul, but by falling into a giant potions cauldron.
    • Not at all. Riddle would have found A Lazarus Pit in his quest for immortality...
  • I love this. Harry sees his parents' murder and is raised by Sirius. After finishing at Hogwarts he spends ten years travelling around the world, learning everything he can about the criminal mind, and honing the skills he'll need when he returns. When he comes back Sirius has moved on, and Lupin acts as the wise mentor, making sure no one suspects Harry Potter is more than just a Rich Idiot With No Day Job. His old muggle-born friend Hermione Granger acts as Mission Control (thanks to a number of inventions combining magic and technology together). And, of course, Neville Longbottom serves as Harry's contact at the Ministry of Magic, calling him when he needs with the aid of a mysterious signal. But he needs a disguise. Something... elemental. Something... terrifying...
    • I love this too. Here's a couple more WMGs for this timeline:
      • Year One (After Harry returns to Britain and sets up shop): The wizarding mafia lead by Lucius Malfoy finds its hold on London challenged for the first time in generations; Ginevra Weasley is inspired by the vigilante going around and creates a disguise of her own; a chalk-skinned, red-eyed psychopath begins his reign of terror by slaughtering a dozen Muggles as guinea pigs for a potion of unmatched deadliness and tops it off by scheming to use said potion to kill a large portion of London's population.
      • Year Two: Ministry Official Ronald Weasley gets a faceful of unhealable poison courtesy of a Pureblood Supremacist supporter, scarring half his face horrifically and driving him insane; Quirinus Quirrell, driven by greed and a desire to make a name for himself, begins a life of crime and leaves various riddles and puzzles behind in his wake; Dolores Umbridge, after getting sacked from the Ministry of Magic due to a scandal involving biscuits, finds herself with hungering for the fear she once commanded as a the Minister's undersecretary, and begins to literally frighten Ministry officials to death with various curses.
        • Alternately, Professor Severus Snape loses his job after he is busted terrorizing students, and starts taking revenge by using a fright potion he invented.
      • Year Three: Famed Quidditch Player Viktor Krum's wife falls terminally ill. In desperation, Victor turns to Dark Arts supporters to revive her, only to find himself the guinea pig of an experiment that turns him into a quasi-immortal ice elemental unable to feel any emotion; Hogwarts groundskeeper and Squib Argus Filch's latest attempt to learn magic transforms him into a nearly invicible shapeshifting golem made of a malleable clay-like substance; Draco Malfoy, desperate to restore his family's power and wealth after the fall of his father, organizes his own criminal group and begins to train a small army of owls to steal valuables all over Wizarding Britain.
      • You had to go and ruin it by making Ginny Batwoman/Catwoman/Batgirl. :( I thought she'd play the role of Rachel Dawes (that doesn't necessarily means she gets killed, she's just something Harry has to sacrifice in order to continue as Batman).
        • Ginny is Catwoman. Hermione is Batgirl who is now Oracle.
    • Ah come on! Gordon is definitely Arthur Weasley[1] with Ron as a possible successor. It ties in with most continuities having Jim's daughter as Batgirl.[2] Also, the elder Longbottoms would still have been tortured or perhaps killed by Bellatrix (back in Year 1), and a desperate Neville would've been taken in by Harry. (And discovered his secret.) And Cedric Digorry is more the Harvey Dent type; Voldemort merely spared him from a Fate Worse Than Death by AK-ing him. Which, incidentally, puts Cho Chang in the Grace/Rachel role. And for those of you that think that the Government Stole Your Toads, Luna's wacky enough to work (from what I've heard) as Starfire!
      • Yeah, see, this is where it all falls apart. First of all, Arthur Weasley wouldn't be the Commissioner Gordon, because he's not part of the Aurors or MLE. He works in the Misuse of Muggle Artifacts Office, and he probably stays there until retirement. He likes it there. Secondly, Ron is a potential Commissioner, but in most continuities Gordon is much older than Bruce. It would have to be an older character, like Kingsley, or an OC. Thirdly, Ginny as Batgirl: No. This goes for Neville as well. They were junior partners, decades younger than Bruce. Not gonna happen, though potentially they could be their own superheroes... and fail miserably. Harry was trained by the League of Shadows and is one of the most accomplished duellers in the country, not to mention being quite intelligent when he's not distracted by Quidditch or girls. He doesn't need a sidekick, he needs a Lucius Fox/Oracle, which is why Hermione serves that role. She's absolutely brilliant, a certified genius, willing to help but not willing to get in the line of fire herself. Fourthly, Cedric Diggory as Harvent Dent... dunno. Wouldn't Percy be a better fit? Older, something of a prat, but a lawyer would be perfect for him. All those rules to enforce... and when he turns into Dent, it's a transformation from a man who believed entirely in the system and the rule of law, to one who believes in nothing but chance. Fifthly, I don't know about Cho Chang as Grace/Rachel. Could work, I suppose. Sixthly, Luna as a superhero? GOD YES! Dunno. Maybe she takes the role of Intrepid Reporter and figures out Harry's Batman through an unironic Bat Deduction. Hell, maybe she's Harry's love interest?
  • Staying away from the Batman parallels for a minute...this makes a lot of sense. It's pretty easy to surmise (and widely accepted by fans) that each house is dangerous in its own way. Slytherins will torture you because they enjoy it. Ravenclaws will torture you because they want to study it, which means they are much more thorough and will go torture ten more people after you to have a sufficient sample size. Ravenclaws are probably about as likely to be sociopaths as Slytherins. Also, in an average room, there are 2,724 things a Ravenclaw can kill you with, including the room itself.
    • On that note, Count Rugen would be an alumnus of Ravenclaw House, and probably went on to be Florin's equivalent to Minister for Magic. I can buy that.

George Weasley becomes Willy Wonka.

According to a cut chapter, Wonka makes a certain line of sweets designed to help children fake being sick to get off school. He favours a fantastical more explodey type of invention over efficiency. He is slightly sadistic to those who really deserve it and will go out of his way to tempt people into their own punishment.

  • Brilliant!!!!
  • Oh my god.
  • He's a tad deaf in one ear.

Harry is a sorcerer.

The hallucinatory train station in the seventh book is some sort of boundary between the game board and the sea of kakera. By extension, he's playing against Neville, with the goal of beating Voldemort first. Ron and Hermione are his furniture.

The Salem Witches' Institute was a hopping nightclub formerly run by Salem Saberhagen.

And it wasn't in Massachusetts, it was just named after Salem.

Jesus was a wizard.

The other stuff was just normal people thinking he was the son of a God because they couldn't think of anything else. He was infact a wizard trying to teach magic to muggles.

  • There used to be a fanfic in livejournal centered on McGonagall about the Wizard Version of Christianity and the Bible... I wonder where it is...
  • Alternatively, Jesus actually was the Messiah, and happened to also be a wizard or at least be part of the magical community. He raised the dead specifically to win them over, knowing it's one of the few things they'd see as a miracle.
  • Which would explain why there are Christian wizards, or at least Christian references by them.
  • Or Jesus' death was the source of the "sacrificial love protection" magic that Lily and Harry used in the story. It's pretty obvious that JK Rowling wrote out the end of Deathly Hallows as a huge allusion to Jesus anyways.

Kingsley Shacklebolt is yet another identity created by Zasalamel.

Think about it, a tall black man, versed in magic, who is a protector of mankind? He probably magicked himself a contact for that golden eye.

  • And Soul Edge is being held in the Department of Mysteries, along with Soulcalibur.

Dumbledore is a Time Lord.

Now the Killing Curse killed him before he could regenerate.

Also, for Movie! Dumbledore, he died sometime in the summer before Harry's third year and regenerated.

His beard is his TARDIS and Fawkes is his companion.

The Doctor is a Wizard.

The sonic screwdriver is his wand, the TARDIS is his broom, the fob watch is a horcru—OW, OW, quit throwing rocks at me! Okay, I'll lea--*CRACK*

Dumbledore is Gendo Ikari, or an expy thereof.

CHECKLIST:

  • GENDO:
    • Deprives Shinji of all meaningful contact with adults capable of loving him, disrupting his psyche and making him easy to manipulate.
    • Proceeds to manipulate Shinji using Negative Tactics(e.g. Ordering a critically wounded Rei to pilot Unit One).
    • Is at least complicit with murder-by-oversynch of Yui Ikari's physical body. She was his wife.
    • Final Achievement: Kills everyone but himself.
  • ALBUS:
    • Deprives Harry of all meaningful contact with adults capable of loving him, disrupting his psyche and making him easy to manipulate.
    • Proceeds to manipulate the everloving shit out of Harry using Positive Tactics(e.g. Being apparently, really, really nice.)
    • Defeats Gellert Grindelwald and condemns him to a life of imprisonment and solitude. He was his lover.
    • Master of the Thanatos Gambit.
    • Final Achievement: Effectively kills himself.

Wizards of Waverly Place is the in the same universe.

It is just the American way of doing magic. This goes with magic being a finite resource, but the whole one-wizard-per-family thing is how THEY deal with it. Also, the "muggle" prejudices show themselves with the rule of not being able to marry a non-wizard. The reason they don't show non-wizards being called "muggles" is that it's a british (or european) slang word, not used in the US. They use their "portal" to get into the parts of the wizarding world that is just hidden out in the open in Britain, and all the full wizard families send their children to bordering schools (such as WizTech).

  • If this is true, then so is the Magic makes Wizards dumb WMG.
    • Or at least makes them a Jerkass.

Harry Potter has nothing to do with Evangelion.

You'll hate me for this.

The cursed book in the Restricted Section that screams when you try to read it....

.... is My Immortal.

  • No, 30 H's.
  • You're both wrong. It's Hogwarts Exposed.
  • Twilight. Oh yeah, I went there!

The Fwooper (as described in Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them) is, in fact, the Aracuan bird as it appears in the Donald Duck cartoons.

Think about it. The cartoon Aracuan looks, acts and sounds nothing like a real aracuan bird, but the Fwooper can have pink feathers (the Aracuan is pink) and is described as having having a song that's enjoyable to listen to at first, but will eventually drive the listener insane... and, well, the Aracuan song is funny, catchy and initially pleasant, but imagine having to listen to "Aracuancuancuancuanchancua-dia, aracuan-TWEET-cuan-TWEET-cuan-TWEET-cuan, aracuancuancuancuancuan-quan..." day in and day out... wouldn't you go insane too?

  • The fact that the Aracuan bird is a South American bird while the Fwooper hails from Africa can be considered either Disneyfication (literally) or yet another misconception by Muggles. Somehow someone at the Disney studios must have seen a Fwooper and mistook it for an Aracuan. Alternately, one of the people working on The Three Caballeros was a wizard, or possibly a Squib, and just included a Fwooper-disguised-as-an-Aracuan in the movie as a sort of inside joke.
  • Besides, Donald does go insane at the end of Clown of the Jungle, so Disney got that much right, at least.

Hermione is Susan the Doctors Grandaughter

Susan's husband and children died before her, because shes a Time Lord and can regenerate. Shes upset and uses a Tardis after becoming tired of waiting for her Grandfather. She lands in 1979 but her tardis is destroyed on the way and the tardis becomes a time-turner and can only use a little of Tardis's power, hence why it only goes back hours and we never saw her take a time-turner from the proffesor. Near death she regenerates into a tiny girl and is adopted by The Grangers, but the female Granger is actually the daughter of Susan's two teachers who became the Doctor's companions in the first series. So she regenerated into a witch at the time as well. Years pass and she regenerates again before her fourth year (the movies show this by having her transformation from a mousy brown haired child into a blonde gorgeous woman) Her new personality also becomes more let loose as the books describe as 'character devlopment'. The reason why she knows all of the knowledge needed was because she and the Doctor learned a lot about the wizarding world in their travels together. Her two companions are Harry and Ron and she modified the Granger's memories not only to protect Harry but also to protect her existance as a Time lord and her home planet. Also she has a bag thats bigger on the inside.

After the last novel, Harry is sent back in time to the 1800's

He names his son Henry.

The Veil of Death...

Harry Potter is similar to Wheel of Time

A school for people who can use their universe's version of magic? It's an ancient structure with a reputation for being magnificent and has a town directly outside it? The people learning there sorted into groups that are reflections of their personalities and possibly skill? No sir, this doesn't sound like Tar Valon at all. Death Eaters? Darkfriends? Would Voldermort be one of the Forsaken? The markings that Voldemort gives his followers bear a similarity to how Alviarin was marked ( although her mark isn't directly visible ), as well as everyone being afraid to say Voldemort ( justified in the final book ) - when the Dark One is given his proper name, his attention is brought upon the speaker. When Rand challenges Shai'tan, the author says how a presence was definitely felt.

Voldemort is an alternate-universe Tony Stonem.

When I first saw Skins recently, I could not get over how much Tony reminded me of the teenage Voldemort. He was charismatic, intelligent, good at just about everything he did, charming - and yet also a complete sociopath. (At least Tony was before getting hit by the bus. Maybe that's what Voldemort needed?) And while Voldemort didn't have the ability to love, it didn't say anything about how he felt about sex. For all we know, he was screwing every girl and/or guy at Hogwarts and then tearing their hearts to bits once he didn't need them anymore.

The entire wizarding war was just a ploy to gather enough energy through the use of magic in order to stave off the heat death of the universe.

Magic was originally granted to everyone who was willing to make a contract with the Incubators on their first visit thousands of years ago. This was then passed down genetically, creating the current community of magic users. Voldemort's lust for power led him to become the only "true" wizard, with darkness consuming him entirely. The Second Wizarding War was the culmination of the Incubators' recent efforts, resulting in an abundance of useable energy. To support this, the orignal Death Eaters were called the Knights of Walpurgis, a play on the Walpurgisnacht.

  • This is now in my personal because canon 1) I find Puella Magi Madoka Magica to be So Cool Its Awesome, 2) this makes Harry Potter creepier, which I like, 3) wands remind me of Soul Gems, 4) Dumbledore's hair resembles Kyubey's ears and 5) (spoilers if you haven't seen episode 8) that would make Voldemort the witch form of Tom Riddle.

Dumbledore is the Red King

...And Harry is Alice. In Through the Looking-Glass, the Red King dreams reality. Now, remember that King’s Cross scene in Deathly Hallows? Well, what if the reason that Dumbledore was there was because it was all part of his dream…except Harry was dreaming him dreaming Harry’s dream. Dumbledore’s death symbolised his waking up, so that means Harry is the one who’s dream it is. Or is it? Anyway, that means that NOTHING that happened in all the books leading up to the Kings Cross scene actually happened. The only real bits are after Harry wakes up. Perhaps Dumbledore is God, testing Harry so he can proceed on to reality. This would work, since Lewis Carroll was a very religious person. And I’m religious too, so I just like to work God into things. See? It makes perfect sense!

He that should not be named needs more rope.

  • Well you can't say either one of ames. They both have magic powers. And if I looked like that, I would wear a sack over my head.

Lily is Christine, Snape is the Phantom, and James is Raoul in modern times.

  • Both guys had an obsession with the same girl, one was an incredible stalker and very creepy, while the other was an obsessive, possessive Jerkass. One was wildly accepted by society, the other severely ostracized. One watched from the shadows, while the other watched from nearby. They both bullied each other, mostly unprovoked, and both Phantom and Snape are given leather pants thanks to their actors, and both Raoul and James are hated and regarded as the worst choices between the two, though both have their share of fans. James was handsome and well-loved, while Phantom and Snape were the opposite. One lost his love forever, while the other scored that love. One made his love leave him by his actions, while the other charmed her. The relationships parallel those from Phantom of the Opera, except that Raoul and SNAPE were the childhood friends, rather than Raoul and James.

The Remus Lupin/Tonks subplot is a Take That at Twilight

Think about it. Clumsy girl falls in love with supernatural creature. They reproduce, and the clumsy girl is critically injured. Now, what is it? a. A subplot of Harry Potter involving a certain Remus Lupin and Nymphadora Tonks, or, b. Twilight

  • Yeah, I'm sure J. K. Rowling would have wanted to slam it to a then obscure book series which later just happened to become hugely popular.

Mister Chang's original name was Simpson

Interview of Flint asserts that Cho married a nameless Muggle. How did he lose his name?

When Homer changed his name to "Max Power", Grandpa whinged "I got the name 'Simpson' from my father, who got it from his father, who won it in a crooked poker game." Mr. Chang was nameless because his ancestor was the Simpson who lost that poker game.

When you combine the 3 deathly hallows they become the One Ring.

The One Ring gives you great power, makes you turn invisible and makes you "see dead people". These are also esentially the powers of the hallows.

Dudley is Dudley.

In Harry Potter, Dudley is a spoiled kid who can get anything if he asks. He is revealed to know how to box (in the beginning of book 5). In Street Fighter III, Dudley is a boxer, with money which allows him to afford anything. They are both from England. The one problem is that the HP Dudley is white, and the SF Dudley is black. Most likely explanation: TAN!

  • Or the magical witness protection only altered the Dursley's race!
    • or he pissed off Ginny enough that she permanently changed his skin colour. (Harry's too passive to actually do anything if Dudley insulted him some more)

Grindelwald founded, or was affiliated with, the the Neighbourhood Watch Association.

I have no idea why, other than that it was for the Greater Good.

Mrs. Norris has the "Mrs." in her name because she actually is married.

To a lion, who is actually an Animagus, named Chuck...

Tom Riddle/Voldemort was an early attempt to create a Hitler clone, only in England instead of Brazil.

Cedric Diggory is Edward Cullen

When Voldemort "killed" Cedric, he actually cast a spell that paralyzed him, and allowed him to get lobotomized, take drugs and start drinking. Voldemort knew that the result would torture muggles even more! And he turned into Edward Cullen!

The Potters are descendants of the Baratheons.

Just as the Baratheons, the Potters are all dark of hair, and their heraldic animal is a stag.

The hate for Parselmouths stems due the Corinthians' propaganda against Medea/Medea's Roaring Rampage of Revenge going out of hands

In the ancient versions, Medea didn't kill her children, but devastated Corinth in revenge and ran away in a chariot pulled by giant snakes (how could she command the snakes if she wasn't a Parselmouth?). Also, she was a borderline positive figure, extremely dangerous when sufficiently provoked (and she was willing to let the Thebans chase her out of the town to spare neighbourhood problems to Herakles (to whom she had been a guest after leaving Corinth), so as long as you didn't threathen somebody she loved you were safe) but otherwise friendly and a powerful ally (an healer good enough to raise the deads and a combatant capable to either kill or drive to suicide an unkillable bronze giant by simply looking it in the eyes). But as the Roman Empire fell and her story was mostly forgotten, only Euripides' Corinthian-paid version remained well known, and that, coupled with the fact that the Greek Parselmouth Herpo the Foul created the first Horcrux and Basilisk, ruined the reputation of a power mostly suited for potioneers and healers. Alternatively, Medea's revenge went out of hands: in myth she caused an earthquake that destroyed Corinth, set the ruins on fire and struck the survivors with a plague. But what if the plague went out of control? After all, werewolves started as a Greek legend, and in the Potterverse they ARE a plague. Between her and Herpo the Foul, Parselmouths got a bad reputation in Greece, a reputation that in time was spread. In both cases, Parselmouths got an horrible reputation in Western Europe but not in some other parts of the world, particularly Georgia (Medea's homeland) and the rest of the former Russian Empire, where more positive Parselmouths are known and Medea is held in high regards for her works as an healer. Also, there's the strong possibility there are many Parselmouths around, but they hide it for fear of persecution.

Harry Potter is fictional and has nothing to do with other fictional works

It will be hilarious if this gets Jossed.

  • You win the internet, sir or ma'am. XD

The series takes place in a world where the Greco-Roman gods are real.

All the creatures are real (though some seem to have been replicated), and it's mentioned in some background material that characters such as Circe, Odysseus, and Polyphemus were real. It's possible, too, that the famed Deathly Hallows were literal gifts from Death (who could, depending on the circumstance, be Hades, Hermes, or Orcus). On an out-of-universe note, J.K.Rowling is a big fan and scholar of Greek mythology, so there's a possibility.

Luna's husband, Rolf Scamander is Rolf from Ed, Edd n Eddy.

Think about it. The wizarding world would justify Rolf's eccentric culture. being a descendant of the book on magical creatures' author justifies the amount of animals he takes care of, he's training.

The HP-verse's Masquerade is the parent-Masquerade to all other Masquerades.

Or at least the stupid ones. Ever wonder why Red Shield doesn't just send a sample of Chiropteran DNA to independent scientists, or Buffy doesn't stake a vampire on live TV? Certainly it would make Hellsing's job easier if people knew who they should call in the case of a vampire or werewolf attack, so why do organizations and individuals like these constantly go against their own best interests to uphold the Masquerade? Because they know that if they tried to tell people that magic and monsters are real, they'd get a pack of aurors on their ass erasing their evidence. And whenever you come across a Masquerade where the how strains/breaks Willing Suspension of Disbelief, A Wizard Did It. Literally.

Jim Gordon is Sirius Black with Amnesia.

The Actor Rule. (Idea shamelessly stolen from here). This is what really happened after Sirius fell through the veil. He ended up lost and confused in a muggle city with fractured memories of his own life. He remembers the name "James" is important so he becomes "James" or rather Jim Gordon.

  1. ↑ he starts out low enough to match Dark Knight Trilogy Jim at Sgt.
  2. ↑ and I don't really see any other girl going for the cowl.
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