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* The shared gesture can also be explained by the fact that Mikuru and Kyon's sister have spent some time together on several occasions and Kyon's sister could presumably have picked it up off Mikuru, children being impressionable and all. In fact, if I recall correctly it's adult Mikuru that uses the gesture and not young Mikuru, so it's entirely possible that Mikuru actually picked it up off of Imouto.
* I too noticed the specificity of the gesture and wondered if it meant something, but I think this plays better if Mikuru is Kyon's niece (Imouto's daughter), or maybe a slightly more distant relation along those lines. For something concrete, in one of the short stories Kyon and Mikuru save an elementary-school kid who's apparently crucial to the future development of time travel - it'd be nice to give him time to grow up.
** The shared gesture is fairly common, actually, not something specific to Mikuru. For another example, see [[Sayonara, Zetsubou Sensei-sensei|Chiri's disturbing variation,]] when she tries to become a [[Dojikko]]. There are lots more, but that was the first that came to mind.
* Objection: Doesn't Mikuru make mention of her childhood several times? In the novels, she mentions the stuff they learn in elementary school, she's unaware the ocean's salty, and doesn't understand how boats float. Most of all, when Kyon asks if she would like to stay in the present, she replies that as much as she loves the present (her past), she will only feel most at home in the future (her present). I now invite all the "Lost Twin Sister" and "Time Divergent Entity" Theories.
** Counter Objection: How is Mikuru's lackluster education relevant as to whether she is Kyon's sister? And besides, her "present" is our future, ergo, Kyon's sister's future. Which is better for you: 2008 or 1998?
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** The difference in personality wouldn't even require that much, it could be just a result of growing up, people change quite a bit in their teens and she could simply have gone from outgoing and hyper to shy and fragile. Plus, though it's already been stated, Kyon's sister and Mikuru's facial features are, not just similar, but ''[http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/90472/KyonsSister-MikuruAsahina.gif nearly identical]''.
** Here is a collection of these comments:
{{quote| Book 2: ''"I was so exhausted already. The thoughts of becoming a voyeur cameraman had long evaporated from my head. Of course, it would be a different story if it involved Asahina-san, but I'm not that sick as to want to preserve video images of my own sister!"''<br />
Book 3, Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, lying about Mikuru: ''"That's my sister."''<br />
Book 5, when looking at Mikoru: ''"It felt as if I were looking at my sister in yukata, aside from the overly voluptuous bust."''<br />
Book 5, Snowy Mountain Syndrome: ''"Having my sister in my room... As if I would do anything to her. I might go down the slippery slope if I am to share a room with Asahina-san. Whether it'd be my sister or Shamisen is really of no difference to me."''<br />
Book 6: ''"Asahina-san's tiny footsteps, coupled with her childlike features, made me wonder, was she really a year older than me? Her footsteps could easily compare to my sister's"''<br />
Book 7, on reaction to puppies: "''If possible, I would like to bring Asahina-san here one day. I could picture her picking up one of those adorable puppies, her eyes sparkling in the process, as she made a shout of “Kyaa~”. That was something I had seen my sister do before, and I had no doubt Asahina-san would be the same."'' }}
 
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* Possible support for this theory: In book 2 Kyon said that Mikuru would make a better fairy than a Time Traveler. Faeires, aka [[The Fair Folk]], have been known for using their beauty to lure knights into a forest to their death. [[Foreshadowing]] much?
 
==Mikuru's spaciness is because of her memory intentionally being "[[Quantum Leap|swiss-cheesed]]" to prevent paradox.==
She's the tool of the Future to change the Past. Having her memory change with each change would cause undue stress, so she's intentionally "dumbed down." Note her future self, who is also her Superior, doesn't have this problem in the slightest.
* Which would reinforce the "Mikuru is Kyon's sister" theory. If she remembered her childhood, she'd give a lot of hints about her identity, and it wouldn't be good for her mission. That Elementary School boy they saved was, in fact, Fujiwara.
* Jossed. She admits to being conditioned to the point that she physically couldn't say anything she's not supposed to, but at least once in the novels some information gets declassified; Mikuru is actually surprised she can answer the question, but she clearly knew it all along. Also, Future Mikuru comments on how disturbing it is to go back to the past and see all the little differences from how she remembered it; apparently, the entire organisation has [[Ripple -Effect -Proof Memory]].
 
== Mikuru isn't really as innocent as she seems. ==
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* Of course, that pokes a few holes in the puzzle involving the doppelgangers. If it was Kyon that Mikuru saw, then the solution used flat out wouldn't have worked.
* Alternately, Mikuru has always been a lesbian, and Haruhi's actions had no effect on her. Consider that Mikuru only joins the Brigade, in the anime at least, after she notices Yuki, the only girl currently in the Brigade except for Haruhi.
** On the other hand, it's reasonable to assume that time-travelers would know who the aliens are. Mikuru joining the SOS-dan only after noticing Yuki could be an attempt to learn more about the IDTE.
* Note who it really is, that Mikuru is lovestruck by in the tenth novel...
 
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== Future Mikuru is not current Mikuru. ==
In the anime, anyway, do we have any proof that she isn't just a body duplicate? They could have gotten hold of Mikuru's body (alive, on their side, both, or neither) and copied it, then gave future Mikuru everything they knew about the original Mikuru's time with Kyon. (For that matter, the original Mikuru may not be any more of a "real" human than future Mikuru, or even Yuki and Asakura.) She just picked something at random about herself that seemed sufficiently intimate. If Kyon had already seen the mole, it would "prove" it was her. If he hadn't, he would be curious enough to ask Mikuru about it, future Mikuru having successfully [[Tricked -Out Time]].
* Or perhaps she's an ''alternate'' future Mikuru. She does mention that Kyon will have to make "The Decision that determines everything" soon.
 
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* And [[Mahou Sensei Negima|Chao Lingshen]] is her best friend or [[Odd Couple]] roomate, who inexplicably used outdated spells based on [[Language of Magic|Latin]] instead of [[Language of Magic|Microsoft SQL]]? I want this to be true ''so'' much.
 
== [[Four Chan4chan|Anonymous]] is Mikuru's superior ==
That is why Mikuru won't reveal anything about her superior, and it is the reason why Mikuru is such a [[Ms. Fanservice|Fanservice Girl]].
 
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== Mikuru is Kyon and Haruhi's daughter ==
Time travel is never [[Exactly What It Says Onon the Tin]], and Mikuru constantly gives mixed signals between her younger and adult selves. Young Mikuru is attracted to Kyon while Older Mikuru says she can't fall in love with him. It's a more extreme version of when a little girl says she wants to marry her daddy when she grows up, because due to time travel, Mikuru and her father are now the same age and he has all the qualities at this age that make him Mikuru's childhood fantasy. However, young Mikuru did this without telling her parents, thus explaining Older Mikuru appears briefly to tell Kyon exactly what he needs to hear in order to make him vaguely question if pursuing Mikuru is the right thing to do rather than acting on his Tsundere-ish relationship with Haruhi. The implication that Mikuru will have to leave him behind eventually is a pre-warning about the fact that eventually she'll go back to her own time, drifting out of Haruhi and Kyon's life as they get together. Eventually, when they have a red-headed baby girl, Haruhi will decide to name her after Mikuru after their childhood friend who moved away, and a few decades down the line, Kyon will finally noticed that Mikuru grew up to look like...Mikuru...and everyone will have quite the laugh over it all. Similarly, Haruhi's cosplay-rape tendencies that she honed on Mikuru will be repeated on her young daughter, then Haruhi sent Mikuru back in time, thus explaining why, despite her protests(because she's embarassed of being seen naked by a guy), Mikuru's pretty much used to it within an episode of her first appearance: she was raised that way.
 
== Haruhi already knew Mikuru is her daughter from the future ==
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Itsuki and Kyon are the actual Time Travellers, and their "dimensional slider" abilities can also allow them to slide back and forth the timeline. The Celestials are in fact humans in the distant future, mutated by Haruhi's desire to express her anger. We all know how Haruhi expresses her anger: by raping Mikuru. (Yuki being a celestial is invalid since she isn't a result of Haruhi's angst). Celestials, being eldritch abominations who share Haruhi's ability of rewriting reality, can disguise themselves as being humans, and being the primal result of Haruhi's desire of being a dominatrix and having a [[Chew Toy]], time-travelled back to the past just to please Haruhi while disguising it as the order of a classified information superior, who is of course... Haruhi. Also, maybe the reason why Itsuki defeats Celestials and prevents them from escaping Closed Space is to keep the celestials from ever going back in time and induce a sense of superiority in Haruhi, which means more controllability for Itsuki and Kyon.
* Considering Celestials are the AU equivalents of [[Neon Genesis Evangelion]] angels, maybe that's the reason why Mikuru stands out as the most beautiful of them all, being an angel....
* And Kyon is [[Doctor Who (TV)|The Doctor]], being the actual Time Traveller with the name "John Smith".
* Wait... how come Mikuru and Itsuki get together well?
** She [[Getting Crap Past the Radar|got crap past the radar]]. Itsuki can fight celestials, but can't tell the difference between them and a human.
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First, ''[[Haruhi-chan]]''. Second, there is the possibility that Mikuru is Kyon and Haruhi's daughter. For a more biblical explanation: Haruhi seems to represent Judaism and the Old Testament, with a long history of esoteric magic, melancholy, and manipulation of people. Kyon, on the other hand, represents the New Testament, the Roman Empire (he's the majority and was responsible for the spread of Haruhiism), and modern day Christianity (it's the current definition of "normal") with the universalization of old doctrines (Haruhi) and the spread to more "normal" people. However, it is Mikuru, not Kyon, is Jesus (Kyon might be God of the New Testament, but is not Jesus). With Haruhi as the past, Mikuru represents the future (she's a time traveller after all) of Haruhiism (Kyon). She also suffers for Haruhi's sins (which parallels Jesus suffering for the Jews / OT God's sins). Kyon, being the new testament / rome / apostles in general, also had the desire to save Mikuru / Jesus (take Pontius Pilate trying to save Jesus from the Jews for example), but can't because of Haruhiism / Judaism / OT God's will.
* Also, we (and otakuism in general) feel better when Haruhi abuses Mikuru. This means, Mikuru didn't just suffer for Haruhi and Kyon's sins, she suffers for the sins of the otaku community in general.
* Which means she is also [[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann|Kamina]]'s relative, with [[Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)|Haruhi Suzumiya]] being the distant past of TTGL....
* Where does Yuki and Itsuki fit in?
** The angels! More specifically, Itsuki is the equivalent of Gabriel (Messenger) and Yuki (or IDE to be exact) is the equivalent of Michael (serving as the "army" of Haruhi, after all she leads the SOS Brigade to success after success).
*** So {{spoiler|[[Evil Counterpart|Ryoko]]}} [[Well -Intentioned Extremist|is]] [[Good Is Not Nice|Uriel]]? Where does Tsuruya fit into all this? She [[One Mario Limit|can't be]] [[The Book of Mormon (Literatureliterature)|Joseph Smith]], and I don't yet know enough about [[Memetic Mutation|LOLFANG-tan]]'s business with the SOS Brigade to pinpoint her place in this.
*** No need to specify, Yuki and Itsuki are the angels who preached the coming of the Trinity of Haruhi, Mikuru and Kyon. Nagaru Tanigawa in turn wrote the Bible.
 
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== Mikuru has a way of subconsciously influencing tropers. ==
I have seen at least three separate occurences of a recognizable section of her name being inserted into long words in ''Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu''-related subjects three separate times. Two is a coincidence, three is a pattern.
* I thought three was [[Goldfinger (Film)|enemy action]].
 
== Mikuru asked Kyon not to watch her the first time Haruhi started stripping her because she knew Kyon was unlikely to physically intervene. ==
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