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== Dad is going to be used as a material in a first guardian at some point. ==

* Look at the first guardians and how they were created so far: Doc Scratch was made partially from Lil' Cal, an object with significance to Bro and Dave. Bec has Harley's genes, and is thus linked to Jade and her Grandpa. Gcat hasn't had anything confirmed yet, but I would bet money he's got something to do with Jaspers. So, what is there a significant link to in John's life that would be sentient enough to form a first guardian? Dad. Any other links John has to someone or something who is not a player in a session are to non-sentient objects, and Dad is mysterious enough to work.

** All known First Guardians are based on non-sentient subservient things ie puppets an pets. While it isn't entirely clear, there is probably a significant reason behind that that simply hasn't been explained yet.

*** Consider what we originally learned about [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004153 the source of Scratch's omniscience], though. That seems to imply that "intelligent" First Guardians are, at the very least, not exactly unique.

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== GCat killed Frigglish/Jaspers to enable his own creation. ==

* As a First Guardian, he's responsible for encouraging his own creation. Jaspers' death enables him to be sampled for ectobiology.

** This is almost certainly at least indirectly true, as First Guardians seem to take action in order to preserve the [[Stable Time Loops]] upon which the timeline is based. Jaspers' death might not be a prequisite to getting his paradox slime, but it's still a requirement of the timeline that leads up to GCat's creation.

*** Death has already been shown to not be a prerequisite. In fact, no ectobiological sample has been taken from something dead yet.

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** [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005172 Voila]! This entire chain of dreams took place in a very abstract dreambubble; probably because as a Carapace with a more childlike intellect, WV doesn't exactly have crisp memories. Besides if that's the case, why haven't Jack or PM appeared in a dreambubble yet, if only to slice up some dead Nepetas and fly back out. Also based on that sequence and the Green Sun and shape of his nightcap, he might tentatively be called an Heir of Light, as his life thusfar has been rather extraordinarily lucky.

*** 1) That sequence doesn't indicate anything about WV's nature, as it's a dream Vriska is having, and it's prophetic, ala her Light powers. It might not actually be a Dream Bubble, but an outright Dream. Indeed, it doesn't follow the rules of any other Dream Bubble, ever. 2) Jack and PM MAY have gone into Dream Bubbles; we haven't been following them very closely ever since Cascade. And even if they haven't, so what? You can't kill the already dead, and Jack's kinda distracted by his attempt to Get Some. <3

*** When was it ever shown Vriska's dreams are prophetic? In fact her direct alternate, Aranea, is God Tiered and a hero of Light as well, and her dreams are in dreambubbles. One must also wonder how it could be prophetic when said prophecy turned out to be innaccurate; it really seems much more like a nightmarish memory of the past. It actually does follow logic of dreambubbles, merely in a much more abstract manner. Dreambubbles have been shown to shift between settings drastically and don't have hard and fast rules (just look at Jade's first Dreambubble for instance), and again there's no indication Vriska did anything special at all to contact WV. And on the matter of Jack and PM, until it has been seen directly on panel, there's no indication WV isn't actually unique.

**** Vriska's dreams are potentially prophetic because she had a dream about things that have yet to occur. The dream is symbolic, uses abstract imagery and meanings, and may or may not have been accurate, but that's standard for [[Dreaming of Things to Come]]. Also, what the heck are you talking about? Aranea is DEAD. We have no idea what she might've dreamed about as a God Tier. At all. Dreambubbles do have 'rules' in that they always replicate a memory of the past to the smallest details until the dreamer starts 'lucid dreaming' and can then walk into other people's memories. None of that applies to the vision you're talking about whatsoever. Especially since the dream contains things that have yet to occur for both of them, such as Jack taking the green rocks out of WV's stomach and using the Red Miles.

\\It's not a Dream Bubble. You've lost that point, try something else.

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* Doc is alive again, when he is dead during the intermission, so that would make sense. However it's not so much past as alternate timeline. Basically Slick's adventures during the intermission were part of an alternate timeline that got folded into the alpha timeline at the end. Otherwise he'd keep going through the cycle over and over.

** The first theory is seemingly confirmed; we've seen the deaths of Quarters and Matchsticks.

*** Seems to be both an alternate timeline ''and'' the past.

== Cyborg Slick is going to kill Alpha Jack Noir ==

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== Snowman is [[Synchronization|synchronized]] with Doc Scratch ==

We know that [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003168 killing Snowman will destroy the universe], we know that a [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003991 ~ATH program] will [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003992 summon Lord English] after the trolls' universe dies, we know that [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005530 Lord English cannot enter the trolls' universe until Doc Scratch is killed], we know that [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005531 destroying the Green Sun isn't the only way to kill Doc Scratch], and the June 19th update {{spoiler|1=[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005770 revealed that Doc Scratch wants Jack Noir to kill Snowman]}}. Furthermore, Doc Scratch and Snowman are the only members of the Felt with [[Power Glows|green auras]], both of them have teleportation powers and [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005740 this] [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005748 sequence] implies that Snowman, like Doc Scratch and Terezi, can see into alternate futures.

* On the other hand; Snowman's powers are implied to have come directly from a portion of Doc's own abilities. Thus it would only make since that her much more limited powers would be similar to his. But if killing her would in effect kill Scratch, Doc would've already done so, instead of directing Rose on her mission.

== Lord English will play a part in the final battle. ==

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== Lord English's peg leg will be an [[Achilles Heel]] in the [[Final Battle]]. ==

== Lord English's peg leg will be an [[Achilles' Heel]] in the [[Final Battle]]. ==

The leg stump is visibly bleeding, so Lord English may not be so invincible after all.

* Jossed. Hussie has said his one weakness is apparently Doc Scratch's gun.

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== Skaia is the embodiment of all life in the universe(s), and the game is a means of preserving itself. ==

The game is set up to serve this function, win or lose; the only difference is how much the player's native planet is sacrificed. However, ''breaking'' the game has put the existence of life in danger.

* The source of all creation and the ultimate power trying to create new universes and thus life, yes.

** Source of Bilious Slick, or Bilious Slick is the source of Skaia? Given the history of paradoxical generation in this story, the answer is probably "[[Mathematician's Answer|Yes]]"