Automoderated users, Autopatrolled users, Bureaucrats, Comment administrators, Confirmed users, Moderators, Rollbackers, Administrators
213,684
edits
Kyonyuu Fantasy/Headscratchers: Difference between revisions
{{trope}} -> {{work}}
TheFierce1 (talk | contribs) |
({{trope}} -> {{work}}) |
||
| (4 intermediate revisions by one other user not shown) | |||
Line 1:
{{
Yes, this is a fantasy nukige visual novel [[H-game]] with a 2 episode anime adaptation, but it still has a surprisingly interesting story, which begs the questions...
Line 13:
== Is King Hagel I part-demon? ==
* The story reveals that his daughter, Princess Luceria is half-human, half-nymph (a type of demon). It goes on to say that thanks to this, Luceria's body has lethal magical properties similar to that of a succubus, so any normal man who gets intimate with her would either lose their mind or die. Lute negates this (after struggling initially), thanks to being half-incubus which is the highest class of demon in their world. However, how then was King Hagel I able to survive being with his 2nd wife who was actually a genuine Nymph? The Prime Minister even stated that no human had ever copulated with a woman and lived to tell about it. It is said that Bobon is a normal human (though his demeanor suggests he might be part-man part-stupid-cow), and he was King Hagel I's firstborn son from his first marriage to a royal family member from the Lingobard kingdom who (as far as we know) was a normal human too. Again, what was it about him (a supposedly normal human) that made him able to survive his relations with a full-blown Nymph for years (and it wasn't a once-in-a-while thing either, in Luceria's route, the King makes comments that suggest Luceria's mother and had sex almost every night even before they were married)?
** Shamsiel makes a few comments that MIGHT hold the answer. At one point she says that she had seen royal families of humans mixing with demons in secret similarly to the King and his 2nd wife. That COULD mean that maybe King Hagel really IS part demon, but it would have been enough generations back to where he has pretty much no demonic traits nor the smell of a part-demon person, yet still has the single characteristic of being able to have relations with a nymph and not die or suffer any negative side effects from it. In essence, this could mean that even Bobon would have some small connection to the demons which in turn allowed him to enter the 2nd temple before Lute and Shamsiel in her route. However, the problem with that is that in Isis' route he had approached the 1st temple with the Guardian Tree but was unable to get it to listen to him, so it raped him to death. The plot thickens...
** The sequel/side story [[Kyonyuu Fantasy Gaiden]] may have provided the answer. According to characters in said sequel, none of the royal families of any of the kingdoms within the continent consist of entirely human descent. Which means that King Hagel I likely WAS indeed part-human part-(unknown)demon. This may also partially explain why Bobon might have been able to enter the temple in the demon woods, because HE by extension would be part-demon too (though not as much nor as powerful as Luceria his sister or Lute who is half-incubus). Also, even if that all turned out to be true, there would have to have been humans in each of the families able to survive intimacy with demon races, which isn't lethal in all cases, but with those like Succubi and Nymphs it is.
== Shamsiel recognizing Lute ==
* It's revealed that Shamsiel had known Lute and his family since before he was born. She even visited his family a few times while he was growing up (until he was 3 years old). Then, years later in Boan, when she first sees Lute she says, "Long time no see. You've gotten big~" and "You're Lute right?" as though she already recognized him. Why then does she still have sex with him (his first time), knowing who he is and that it might kill him (in fact, much of what she says during seems like she IS trying to kill him). They explain in at least Shamsiel's own route that immediately following their first night together, she recognized him from their past meetings, but she didn't tell him out of a desire to let him live his life freely how he wanted... Again though, Why then does she seem to both recognize and yet still seem to try to kill him during that first night they're together in Boan?
** One possibility could be that she had been scouting the town for new targets when she heard rumors that the Prefect had apparently hired a man named Lute to exorcise the demon, which she took as a challenge, so she could have learned his name and some basic facts that way, yet at the same time she wouldn't have fully recognized/realized he was someone from her past until AFTER they finished. (Honestly, she probably figured some of it out when he first grabbed onto her boob that first time, but she was probably too distracted by the sensation to bother thinking about it in the heat of the moment.)
== The Prime Minister's Goal ==
Line 24 ⟶ 26:
** That does sound like a plausible explanation. In the anime adaptation, the Prime Minister puts on more of a goofy front even speaking differently when talking to the King and agrees with everything he says, at least in front of him, but is all the while plotting even more stealthily behind everyone's backs. The kicker though, is something he says after suggesting Lute be sent to deal with Gladys. After dismissing Isis with orders to pass to [[Running Gag|Blan Cerfan]], he thinks to himself "What a fool he is. Regardless I must force the Royal Knight's Academy to make a grave error before I die." That sort of makes it seem like he IS against the Royal Knight's system, but why exactly isn't explained. It could be that even HE was under orders from someone or something else that was having him conspiring to not maintain the status quo at all, but actually work on the Kingdom's eventual collapse. In which case, that WOULD explain why he was trying to manipulate Gladys' rebels and the King's Forces into fighting. It also explains why he would have sought to have Bobon stirring up trouble in Boan. Had that rebellion actually taken place, the Royal Knight Academy's reputation would have suffered as would the King and the new system reforms he was trying to enact. In the event that Edelland WERE to be conquered or broken apart by civil war, then all its lands and resources would be within someone else's grasp. INCLUDING the demon forest and access to the temple deep within it. Maybe his goal wasn't to secure it for himself, but for someone else. The more I think about it, the more that DOES seem plausible, because then it also explains how he knew so much about the demon forest and the temples, AND maybe his sending Bobon out there could have been a test to see if there really was a way to gain god-like power from it. (Again, maybe not necessarily for himself, but whoever he was under orders from.)
{{worksubpagefooter}}
| |||