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''[[Don Quixote (Literature)|Don Quixote]]'' is perhaps the [[Trope Maker]], and most characters of this type will end up fighting [[They Might Be Giants|windmills]] as a [[Shout Out]].

See [[Failure Knight]]. Compare [[General Failure]], [[Miles Gloriosus]], and [[Modern Major General]]. Lord Error Prone is a knight who errs, but should not be confused with a [[Knight Errant]].

See [[Failure Knight]]. Compare [[General Failure]], [[Miles Gloriosus]], and [[Modern Major-General]]. Lord Error Prone is a knight who errs, but should not be confused with a [[Knight Errant]].

== Anime and Manga ==

* Amelia Wil Tesla Seillune from ''[[The Slayers]]'' is an example of the sympathetic type (although she does have moments of competence). To a lesser extent, so is her father, Prince Phil.

** Lesser Extent? Phil is just as error prone as Amelia. Just with fewer redeeming periods of competence.

*** Phil's way more competent. He talks and looks funny, but ''acts'' more as [[Reluctant Warrior]] or [[Knight in Shining Armor]]. Amelia performed pratfalls until it became [[Running Gag]]. He preaches to the ghosts and they ''heed'' him, she has [[Have You Tried Not Being a Monster]] speech even [[Idiot Hero|Gourry]] saw as absurd. In charges without checking what force they face they're about equal, but given how much even top spells fall short, it's not ''that'' bad. We just see his better moments rarely because he has much less time on screen. Of course, whenever these two in a line of sight of each other, silliness increases on both sides.

*** Phil's way more competent. He talks and looks funny, but ''acts'' more as [[Reluctant Warrior]] or [[Knight in Shining Armor]]. Amelia performed pratfalls until it became [[Running Gag]]. He preaches to the ghosts and they ''heed'' him, she has [[Have You Tried Not Being a Monster?]] speech even [[Idiot Hero|Gourry]] saw as absurd. In charges without checking what force they face they're about equal, but given how much even top spells fall short, it's not ''that'' bad. We just see his better moments rarely because he has much less time on screen. Of course, whenever these two in a line of sight of each other, silliness increases on both sides.

* Tatewaki Kuno from ''[[Ranma One Half|Ranma 1/2]]'' comes from wealthy [[Kendo Team Captain|samurai]] stock, and speaks in flowery poetic text. He is always easily defeated by most of the other characters, but is always supremely confident and arrogant. He is too stupid to notice that Ranma is a [[Gender Bender]], and not two separate people. He's actually seen him transform right in front of him numerous times.

* Shuutaro Mendo (from ''[[Urusei Yatsura]]''), possibly Kuno's literary ancestor, is much the same. He's incredibly wealthy, carries a sword everywhere he goes, and generally acts the cool sophisticate, an act for which the local girls fawn over him in adoration. Scratch the gloss, however, and he's really no better than [[Loveable Sex Maniac]] Ataru Moroboshi himself. In fact, he's debateably worse, given that he's utterly afraid of the dark, claustrophobic, and a [[Dirty Coward]], while Ataru is capable of [[Determinator|insane acts of bravery and determination]].

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** Though it should be noted, his main failings were his misplaced loyalty and the fact that his rival's biggest strength was cunning.

* In ''[[The Elder Scrolls|Oblivion]]'', Viranus Donton, the son of the Fighters Guild Master, Vilena, is an incredibly enthusiastic fighter, but also incredibly unskilled in combat. In fact, he's probably the worst follower NPC in the entire game. During one quest, the player is asked to "show him the ropes" by escorting him on a fairly pedestrian monster-slaying expedition. However, it is incredibly easy for him to die (or at least be knocked unconscious due to his essential status), as he charges any enemies recklessly, no matter how strong they are, and doesn't run away when he's in danger of dying.

** Farwil Indarys is an even more blatant example - he heads an order of knights that mainly serve to bolster his ego, and tends to give a lot of [[What Do You Mean ~~Its~~ Not Awesome|ridiculous]] [[Rousing Speech|speeches]] that invariably end with [[Cave Story (Video Game)|"Huzzah!"]]. He also has the same tendency to blindly charge into enemies as the above example, though in fairness [[Artificial Stupidity|that's simply how all follower NPCs are programmed to act]]. Much more irritating in that he's ''not'' considered essential (and therefore killable), but letting him die screws you out of some decent quest rewards.

** Farwil Indarys is an even more blatant example - he heads an order of knights that mainly serve to bolster his ego, and tends to give a lot of [[What Do You Mean It's Not Awesome?|ridiculous]] [[Rousing Speech|speeches]] that invariably end with [[Cave Story (Video Game)|"Huzzah!"]]. He also has the same tendency to blindly charge into enemies as the above example, though in fairness [[Artificial Stupidity|that's simply how all follower NPCs are programmed to act]]. Much more irritating in that he's ''not'' considered essential (and therefore killable), but letting him die screws you out of some decent quest rewards.

*** The easiest method of keeping Farwil alive is to leave him behind. NPCs only fight when they're in the same area as you; leaving one behind a loading screen keeps them safe from everything ever, and unlike other NPCs Farwil can be saved ''without meeting him again'' as he's in the Oblivion Gate, which will throw him out when you close it.

*** Just to note, NPCs actually have a relatively complicated procedure for determining whether to run or fight based on their level, the opponent's level, their health, and their own aggression. So, while Farwil and Viranus are artificially stupid, they were ''designed'' to be that way.

* [[Well Excuse Me Princess|Princess]] [[Genki Girl|L'Arachel]] [[White Magician Girl|of Rausten]], from ''[[Fire Emblem]] 8'', combines this with [[Genki Girl]] and [[Well Excuse Me Princess]]. Unlike others, she ''does'' [[Took a Level In Badass|learn how to fight properly]] and gets better. {{spoiler|Her parents were Lord Error Prone types too - and died because of that when she was a child, according to her supports with Eirika.}}

* [[Well, Excuse Me, Princess!|Princess]] [[Genki Girl|L'Arachel]] [[White Magician Girl|of Rausten]], from ''[[Fire Emblem]] 8'', combines this with [[Genki Girl]] and [[Well, Excuse Me, Princess!]]. Unlike others, she ''does'' [[Took a Level In Badass|learn how to fight properly]] and gets better. {{spoiler|Her parents were Lord Error Prone types too - and died because of that when she was a child, according to her supports with Eirika.}}

** {{spoiler|Actually, they were legitimately good rulers since they went out saving people from monsters, and other people spoke quite highly of them.}}

* [[Street Fighter|Dan Hibiki.]] He got kicked out of the dojo he was training at for his vengeful motives and thus created his own style, Saikyo (Strongest), which is anything but, yet Dan foolhardily believes himself to be Number 1 no matter how often or hard he gets his ass handed to him by the other, more competent fighters.