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* ''[[Hotel Dusk: Room 215]]'' features a sidequest in which you can earn a prize from a vending machine. There is only one very short point in the game in which you can exchange your cash for change; after that, it's lost forever. (There is also no warning, making it a [[Guide Dang It]].)
** There is a kind-of new game plus mode after completing the game with an extra puzzle and ending, but the scavenger hunt item you get out of the machine changes, making the original Lost Forever unless you start a clean game. In addition, the original scavenger hunt vending item can be given to two different characters, but the only way to give it to one of them is to randomly guess the vending machine number, because there is no opportunity to give it to her after legitimately completing the scavenger hunt.
* The text-based game of ''[[LordThe ofHobbit the(1982 Ringsvideo game)|The Hobbit]]'' required Bilbo to get assistance frequently from either Gandalf or Thorin—most notably, getting out of the goblins' dungeon (you had to be carried out the window) and getting into Smaug's cave via the side entrance (the key broke if Thorin died). The game also depended on the elves' ''butler'' to periodically open the door to the wood elves' dungeon. If these parties were killed, various areas became unreachable, and randomly spawning enemies like goblins and the vicious warg often killed them while Bilbo was elsewhere.
* ''[[Return to Zork]]''. Most notoriously, if you cut instead of dig up the bonding plant at the very beginning of the game, killing it, you're [[Failure Is the Only Option|screwed]]. Even worse, it's very late in the game when you find this out. Additionally, there are many ways of killing it by accident if you do dig it up.
** Likewise, the earlier text game ''Spellbreaker'' had a plant that you needed to dig up rather than cut to solve a puzzle. And just to make sure as many people as possible found that out too late, the game placed a [[Red Herring]] pair of shears near the plant.
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* Any website that doesn't allow the Internet Archive to search its old pages.
* At [[TV Tropes]] (and by extension here), due to The Great Crash, certain examples and [[TV Tropes Made of Win Archive]] articles were Lost... ''Forever''...
* All The Tropes has its own examples, thanks to the Orain hack and an earlier crash. For instance, the current version of the page for [[Lord Buckley]] is a reconstruction of one posted just before the hack.
* From ''[[That Guy With The Glasses]]'':
** A video by [[That Dude in the Suede]] that ranted against YoutubeYouTube's takedowns of ''[[The Nostalgia Critic]]'' episodes which caught the interest of [[Doug Walker]] and in turn was responsible for That Guy With The Glasses/Channel Awesome becoming a showcase for more contributors other than Walker is lost and gone forever. The reason? Suede said he'd delete the video when the dispute between Walker and [[YouTube]] had run its course and Suede had saved the video on a now long-gone college computer.
** Every single video that [[Unperson|Daniel "That Aussie Guy" Rizzo]] made for the site.
** [[The Nostalgia Chick]]'s controversial review of the ''[[Dune]]'' movie.
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* Fanfiction.net never lets any [[Fan Fiction]] remain on the site forever. Which is sad, since the Wayback Machine can't archive anything there...
* Public user photo site Fotopic went into administration in 2011, taking with it 8 years worth of images, websites, galleries... the lot. And with the Wayback Machine unable to save anything from it, it's all gone for good.
* ThereAt isone time there was a [https://web.archive.org/web/20140109180705/http://lostforeverwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page wiki] for this trope, but it'sas inyou it'smight earlyguess days andfrom needs somethe [[WikiWayback MagicMachine]] link it itself is long gone, and it appears that in its short life it didn't manage to save much.
* The staff of [[Tumblrtumblr]] tried to ''enforce'' this trope by banning volunteer teams who were frantically trying to rescue/archive content from "adult" pages that were going to be destroyed when it [[Think of the Advertisers!|purged itself of adult content to better appeal to advertisers]] in December 2018.
 
== [[Real Life]] ==
* The Honjo Masamune, probably the most famous sword made by the swordsmith Gorō Nyūdō Masamune, was by and large considered the single finest katana ever made and was a personal treasure of the Tokugawa Shogunate, as well as a Japanese National Treasure. In 1945, Prince Tokugawa Iemasa entrusted the Honjo Masamune and 14 other swords to a Police station in Mejiro, only for them to be given to a sergeant of the 7th Air Cavalry of the United States Military one month later. Since then, however, the whereabouts of the sword are completely unknown.
** 'The Greatest Generation' really got their hands on a lot of cool loot.
* ThereAs of late 2023, there are 106[https://screenrant.com/doctor-who-missing-episodes-1960s/ 97] [[Missing Episode|missing episodes]] of ''[[Doctor Who]]'', the master copies of which were destroyed to make room in the BBC archives. But don't give up hope -- [https://thedoctorwhocompanion.com/2023/08/04/missing-episodes-of-doctor-who-are-definitely-out-there-and-will-eventually-be-recovered/ every once in a while one of these is rediscovered]. When this entry was originally written in the 2010s, there were ''106'' missing episodes.
** AndThere are countless other lost TV series and episodes, as seen on [[Keep Circulating the Tapes]].
* [[wikipedia:Lost film|Many films]], especially from the silent cinema and early 'talkie' era, were not well archived, and as such they either vanished into the dustbin of history or had missing scenes.
** And the earliest methods of copying the films for distribution actually ''degrades'' the strips that's being copied from.
** Not to mention that early filmstock is dangerously flammable, and entire archives have subsequently been lost to fire.
* In one of the ballsiest moves in the history of modern music (from a band that made their ''entire career'' on being ballsy), anti-establishment electronica duo [[The KLF]] celebrated their departure from the music industry by deleting their entire back catalogue. If you want to hear their music now, good luck finding old copies of their records on eBay.
** To clarify, the term "deleted" means no longer in print by request of the artist. This happens a lot, but the artist usually only "deletes" an album/single or two, not their entire discography. It's pretty easy to find their discography on the internet, minus a few releases that may or may not exist. Whether or not the master tapes still exist is up for debate.
* Averted by [[Tom Lehrer]], who put his entire catalogue into the public domain at the end of 2022, after which he had all his tracks packaged up and posted on the net for anyone who wanted them.
* Any time a species goes extinct.
* In early July 2019, every single eBook ever sold by Microsoft, including those that were free to download -- along with any personal annotations anyone ever made to their copies -- abruptly ceased to be available when Microsoft got out of the eBook business and decided that maintaining a skeleton DRM system so that its customers could keep their books was ''more trouble and more expensive'' than issuing refunds for every book they ever sold, along with a US$25 credit for the loss of annotations.
** Microsoft did something similar to ''[[w:AltspaceVR|AltspaceVR]]'' in 2023. As one of the earlier virtual environments on several VR devices, it had a good following that grew to thousands of users and "worlds", but it was free to use and unprofitable for its owners except as a source of ideas. Microsoft bought it in 2017, when the original developer ran out of money to run it. They used some of its features in their other products, [[Executive Meddling|messed about]] for a few years and then pulled the plug.
* ''[[Relatively Absent]]'' by Mark "Togashi Gaijin" Shurtleff, was an incomplete, [[Doorstopper|epic-length]] ''[[Ranma ½]]/[[Sailor Moon]]'' [[Crossover Fic]] of remarkable quality that at 11 large chapters was clearly still in the process of setting up its plot when Shurtleff abandoned fan fiction entirely in 2009. He took down his story archives and managed to purge ''Relatively Absent'' (and his other fan writing) entirely from the Web -- even from the [[Wayback Machine]]. He then spent the next ten years or so firing off take-down notices to every site that tried to repost it. Archives of this and his other stories exist and [[Keep Circulating the Tapes|are traded fan-to-fan]], but unless you know someone who has it, you're out of luck.