Lunar (franchise): Difference between revisions
Content added Content deleted
m (update links) |
m (revise quote template spacing) |
||
Line 27: | Line 27: | ||
---- |
---- |
||
=== The ''Lunar'' series and related media provide examples of: === |
=== The ''Lunar'' series and related media provide examples of: === |
||
{{quote| |
{{quote|[[Lunar Silver Star Story Complete|Lunar 1 has its own page here]], and [[Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Complete|Lunar 2 has one here]]. Please only include tropes that occur in multiple games or side-games in this list.}} |
||
* [[A Boy and His X]]: Both of the main games have flying "cats" that are constant companions to the main character; Nall in ''Lunar 1'' and Ruby in ''Lunar 2''. They are [[Deadpan Snarker|Deadpan Snarkers]]-in-chief for their respective games and they share the same [[Berserk Button]] - don't call them cats. |
* [[A Boy and His X]]: Both of the main games have flying "cats" that are constant companions to the main character; Nall in ''Lunar 1'' and Ruby in ''Lunar 2''. They are [[Deadpan Snarker|Deadpan Snarkers]]-in-chief for their respective games and they share the same [[Berserk Button]] - don't call them cats. |
||
* [[Absurdly Spacious Sewer]]: There's one under Meribia which appears in ''Lunar 1'' and ''Lunar 2'' both. And yes, it's filled with monsters. In ''Lunar 2'', Ramus turns it into a tourist attraction called the "Tunnels of Carnage." |
* [[Absurdly Spacious Sewer]]: There's one under Meribia which appears in ''Lunar 1'' and ''Lunar 2'' both. And yes, it's filled with monsters. In ''Lunar 2'', Ramus turns it into a tourist attraction called the "Tunnels of Carnage." |
||
Line 51: | Line 51: | ||
* [[Catgirl]] / [[Petting Zoo People]]: The beastpeople, who are all over the map on this one. ''Lunar 1'''s catgirl is a ''half''catgirl, and her features are rather elven. Leo and Mauri in ''Lunar 2'' are more obvious beast people. |
* [[Catgirl]] / [[Petting Zoo People]]: The beastpeople, who are all over the map on this one. ''Lunar 1'''s catgirl is a ''half''catgirl, and her features are rather elven. Leo and Mauri in ''Lunar 2'' are more obvious beast people. |
||
** Elaborated upon in [http://www.sceneryrecalled.com/trans/lunarqa.txt an FAQ from a Japanese artbook]: |
** Elaborated upon in [http://www.sceneryrecalled.com/trans/lunarqa.txt an FAQ from a Japanese artbook]: |
||
{{quote| |
{{quote|22. Why are Mauri and Leo different from other people? |
||
They're of the beastman race, like Master Mel and Jessica of Lunar I. There seem to be many types of beastmen - Jessica and Mel seem to be cat-types; Mauri and Leo, dog-types. |
They're of the beastman race, like Master Mel and Jessica of Lunar I. There seem to be many types of beastmen - Jessica and Mel seem to be cat-types; Mauri and Leo, dog-types. |
||
Well, then, you might say, are there hippo-types and seagull-types? Umm... sure, why not; it'll be interesting <g>. }} |
Well, then, you might say, are there hippo-types and seagull-types? Umm... sure, why not; it'll be interesting <g>. }} |
||
* [[Combat Medic]]: Lunar healer characters come from the ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'' cleric mold - let 'em [[Carry a Big Stick]] or an [[Epic Flail]] and they can crack heads. Jessica can hold her own with maces and claws. Ronfar too, but it's usually better to give him crests that enable magic spells. |
* [[Combat Medic]]: Lunar healer characters come from the ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'' cleric mold - let 'em [[Carry a Big Stick]] or an [[Epic Flail]] and they can crack heads. Jessica can hold her own with maces and claws. Ronfar too, but it's usually better to give him crests that enable magic spells. |
||
Line 134: | Line 134: | ||
** The {{spoiler|Althena/Lucia relationship}} in particular is popular target of fan speculation. {{spoiler|Lucia and Althena know each other's purposes, and are similar enough that Lucia can assume Althena's powers. Lucia seems ''deeply hurt'' that Luna-Althena chose to become mortal (read: Lucia will never see her again). Luna-Althena, for her part, was clearly concerned about how Lucia would take it, to the point that she recorded a message explaining the situation, her reasoning, and some words of encouragement for Lucia. So what the hell is their relationship? Sisters? Mother-daughter? They're ''obviously'' very similar physically, and at the start of the game Althena is the only person Lucia actually cares about... so ''what are they''?}} More than fifteen years fans have been waiting and we ''still'' don't have any payoff on this, [[All There in the Manual|not even in the extra material]]. |
** The {{spoiler|Althena/Lucia relationship}} in particular is popular target of fan speculation. {{spoiler|Lucia and Althena know each other's purposes, and are similar enough that Lucia can assume Althena's powers. Lucia seems ''deeply hurt'' that Luna-Althena chose to become mortal (read: Lucia will never see her again). Luna-Althena, for her part, was clearly concerned about how Lucia would take it, to the point that she recorded a message explaining the situation, her reasoning, and some words of encouragement for Lucia. So what the hell is their relationship? Sisters? Mother-daughter? They're ''obviously'' very similar physically, and at the start of the game Althena is the only person Lucia actually cares about... so ''what are they''?}} More than fifteen years fans have been waiting and we ''still'' don't have any payoff on this, [[All There in the Manual|not even in the extra material]]. |
||
*** The closest answer the fans will ever get came from [http://www.sceneryrecalled.com/trans/lunarqa.txt an FAQ from a Japanese artbook]: |
*** The closest answer the fans will ever get came from [http://www.sceneryrecalled.com/trans/lunarqa.txt an FAQ from a Japanese artbook]: |
||
{{quote| |
{{quote|3. What's the connection between Althena and Lucia? When Althena was on the Blue Star, where was Lucia? |
||
Althena, Lucia, and Zophar are all probably the same type of entity. We call them gods, and while that's a possibility, the truth seems to be a little different. So, then, what are they? Well...we don't really know. C'mon, this isn't sci-fi; gimme a break if I can't be clear on everything <g>. }} |
Althena, Lucia, and Zophar are all probably the same type of entity. We call them gods, and while that's a possibility, the truth seems to be a little different. So, then, what are they? Well...we don't really know. C'mon, this isn't sci-fi; gimme a break if I can't be clear on everything <g>. }} |
||
* [[Magical Incantation]]: In the ''Childhood's End'' and ''Vheen Airship Story'' mangas, it's stated that humans need to use either incantations or prayers to use magic. When someone can cast magic without this, it's a dead giveaway that they're actually a member of the Vile Tribe. |
* [[Magical Incantation]]: In the ''Childhood's End'' and ''Vheen Airship Story'' mangas, it's stated that humans need to use either incantations or prayers to use magic. When someone can cast magic without this, it's a dead giveaway that they're actually a member of the Vile Tribe. |
||
Line 158: | Line 158: | ||
* [[One-Winged Angel]]: A veritable auto-include, but some games in the series play with this trope. |
* [[One-Winged Angel]]: A veritable auto-include, but some games in the series play with this trope. |
||
** ''The Silver Star'' played it straight and gave the final boss a second, monstrous form, complete with epic [[Large Ham]] transformation. |
** ''The Silver Star'' played it straight and gave the final boss a second, monstrous form, complete with epic [[Large Ham]] transformation. |
||
{{quote| |
{{quote|"''Cower''...in ''fear''...as I demonstrate my '''''TRUE'''''...'''''POWER'''''!"}} |
||
** The Lunar 1 remakes...{{spoiler|avert this. No monster form. No multiple stages. Just one incredibly hard-hitting [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]].}} |
** The Lunar 1 remakes...{{spoiler|avert this. No monster form. No multiple stages. Just one incredibly hard-hitting [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]].}} |
||
** The confrontation with the [[Big Bad]] in ''Lunar 2'' is an ideal example of the trope, with three (or four?) stages, including [[Clipped-Wing Angel]]. |
** The confrontation with the [[Big Bad]] in ''Lunar 2'' is an ideal example of the trope, with three (or four?) stages, including [[Clipped-Wing Angel]]. |
||
Line 182: | Line 182: | ||
* [[Shout-Out]]: Many of the Working Designs jokes consist of [[Shout-Out|Shout Outs]] of various kinds. |
* [[Shout-Out]]: Many of the Working Designs jokes consist of [[Shout-Out|Shout Outs]] of various kinds. |
||
** XSEED's translation of ''Silver Star Harmony'' has a [[Shout-Out]] to ''[[Castlevania]] II: Simon's Quest'' in the form of Nall having a dream about getting a silk bag from a graveyard duck during the camping scene in the Lost Woods: |
** XSEED's translation of ''Silver Star Harmony'' has a [[Shout-Out]] to ''[[Castlevania]] II: Simon's Quest'' in the form of Nall having a dream about getting a silk bag from a graveyard duck during the camping scene in the Lost Woods: |
||
{{quote| |
{{quote|"Zzzzz...grave...yard...zzz...duck... |
||
...zzz...give me...the...bag..." }} |
...zzz...give me...the...bag..." }} |
||
** "Delays are temporary, mediocrity is forever." This line in ''Silver Star Story'', uttered by Myght, is an allusion to [[Working Designs]]' frequent [[Schedule Slip|release schedule slips]]. [[Xseed]] kept it in ''Silver Star Harmony''. |
** "Delays are temporary, mediocrity is forever." This line in ''Silver Star Story'', uttered by Myght, is an allusion to [[Working Designs]]' frequent [[Schedule Slip|release schedule slips]]. [[Xseed]] kept it in ''Silver Star Harmony''. |