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=== The ''Lunar'' series and related media provide examples of: ===
=== The ''Lunar'' series and related media provide examples of: ===
{{quote| [[Lunar Silver Star Story Complete|Lunar 1 has its own page here]], and [[Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Complete|Lunar 2 has one here]]. Please only include tropes that occur in multiple games or side-games in this list.}}
{{quote|[[Lunar Silver Star Story Complete|Lunar 1 has its own page here]], and [[Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Complete|Lunar 2 has one here]]. Please only include tropes that occur in multiple games or side-games in this list.}}
* [[A Boy and His X]]: Both of the main games have flying "cats" that are constant companions to the main character; Nall in ''Lunar 1'' and Ruby in ''Lunar 2''. They are [[Deadpan Snarker|Deadpan Snarkers]]-in-chief for their respective games and they share the same [[Berserk Button]] - don't call them cats.
* [[A Boy and His X]]: Both of the main games have flying "cats" that are constant companions to the main character; Nall in ''Lunar 1'' and Ruby in ''Lunar 2''. They are [[Deadpan Snarker|Deadpan Snarkers]]-in-chief for their respective games and they share the same [[Berserk Button]] - don't call them cats.
* [[Absurdly Spacious Sewer]]: There's one under Meribia which appears in ''Lunar 1'' and ''Lunar 2'' both. And yes, it's filled with monsters. In ''Lunar 2'', Ramus turns it into a tourist attraction called the "Tunnels of Carnage."
* [[Absurdly Spacious Sewer]]: There's one under Meribia which appears in ''Lunar 1'' and ''Lunar 2'' both. And yes, it's filled with monsters. In ''Lunar 2'', Ramus turns it into a tourist attraction called the "Tunnels of Carnage."
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* [[Catgirl]] / [[Petting Zoo People]]: The beastpeople, who are all over the map on this one. ''Lunar 1'''s catgirl is a ''half''catgirl, and her features are rather elven. Leo and Mauri in ''Lunar 2'' are more obvious beast people.
* [[Catgirl]] / [[Petting Zoo People]]: The beastpeople, who are all over the map on this one. ''Lunar 1'''s catgirl is a ''half''catgirl, and her features are rather elven. Leo and Mauri in ''Lunar 2'' are more obvious beast people.
** Elaborated upon in [http://www.sceneryrecalled.com/trans/lunarqa.txt an FAQ from a Japanese artbook]:
** Elaborated upon in [http://www.sceneryrecalled.com/trans/lunarqa.txt an FAQ from a Japanese artbook]:
{{quote| 22. Why are Mauri and Leo different from other people?<br />
{{quote|22. Why are Mauri and Leo different from other people?
They're of the beastman race, like Master Mel and Jessica of Lunar I. There seem to be many types of beastmen - Jessica and Mel seem to be cat-types; Mauri and Leo, dog-types.<br />
They're of the beastman race, like Master Mel and Jessica of Lunar I. There seem to be many types of beastmen - Jessica and Mel seem to be cat-types; Mauri and Leo, dog-types.
Well, then, you might say, are there hippo-types and seagull-types? Umm... sure, why not; it'll be interesting <g>. }}
Well, then, you might say, are there hippo-types and seagull-types? Umm... sure, why not; it'll be interesting <g>. }}
* [[Combat Medic]]: Lunar healer characters come from the ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'' cleric mold - let 'em [[Carry a Big Stick]] or an [[Epic Flail]] and they can crack heads. Jessica can hold her own with maces and claws. Ronfar too, but it's usually better to give him crests that enable magic spells.
* [[Combat Medic]]: Lunar healer characters come from the ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'' cleric mold - let 'em [[Carry a Big Stick]] or an [[Epic Flail]] and they can crack heads. Jessica can hold her own with maces and claws. Ronfar too, but it's usually better to give him crests that enable magic spells.
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** The {{spoiler|Althena/Lucia relationship}} in particular is popular target of fan speculation. {{spoiler|Lucia and Althena know each other's purposes, and are similar enough that Lucia can assume Althena's powers. Lucia seems ''deeply hurt'' that Luna-Althena chose to become mortal (read: Lucia will never see her again). Luna-Althena, for her part, was clearly concerned about how Lucia would take it, to the point that she recorded a message explaining the situation, her reasoning, and some words of encouragement for Lucia. So what the hell is their relationship? Sisters? Mother-daughter? They're ''obviously'' very similar physically, and at the start of the game Althena is the only person Lucia actually cares about... so ''what are they''?}} More than fifteen years fans have been waiting and we ''still'' don't have any payoff on this, [[All There in the Manual|not even in the extra material]].
** The {{spoiler|Althena/Lucia relationship}} in particular is popular target of fan speculation. {{spoiler|Lucia and Althena know each other's purposes, and are similar enough that Lucia can assume Althena's powers. Lucia seems ''deeply hurt'' that Luna-Althena chose to become mortal (read: Lucia will never see her again). Luna-Althena, for her part, was clearly concerned about how Lucia would take it, to the point that she recorded a message explaining the situation, her reasoning, and some words of encouragement for Lucia. So what the hell is their relationship? Sisters? Mother-daughter? They're ''obviously'' very similar physically, and at the start of the game Althena is the only person Lucia actually cares about... so ''what are they''?}} More than fifteen years fans have been waiting and we ''still'' don't have any payoff on this, [[All There in the Manual|not even in the extra material]].
*** The closest answer the fans will ever get came from [http://www.sceneryrecalled.com/trans/lunarqa.txt an FAQ from a Japanese artbook]:
*** The closest answer the fans will ever get came from [http://www.sceneryrecalled.com/trans/lunarqa.txt an FAQ from a Japanese artbook]:
{{quote| 3. What's the connection between Althena and Lucia? When Althena was on the Blue Star, where was Lucia?<br />
{{quote|3. What's the connection between Althena and Lucia? When Althena was on the Blue Star, where was Lucia?
Althena, Lucia, and Zophar are all probably the same type of entity. We call them gods, and while that's a possibility, the truth seems to be a little different. So, then, what are they? Well...we don't really know. C'mon, this isn't sci-fi; gimme a break if I can't be clear on everything <g>. }}
Althena, Lucia, and Zophar are all probably the same type of entity. We call them gods, and while that's a possibility, the truth seems to be a little different. So, then, what are they? Well...we don't really know. C'mon, this isn't sci-fi; gimme a break if I can't be clear on everything <g>. }}
* [[Magical Incantation]]: In the ''Childhood's End'' and ''Vheen Airship Story'' mangas, it's stated that humans need to use either incantations or prayers to use magic. When someone can cast magic without this, it's a dead giveaway that they're actually a member of the Vile Tribe.
* [[Magical Incantation]]: In the ''Childhood's End'' and ''Vheen Airship Story'' mangas, it's stated that humans need to use either incantations or prayers to use magic. When someone can cast magic without this, it's a dead giveaway that they're actually a member of the Vile Tribe.
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* [[One-Winged Angel]]: A veritable auto-include, but some games in the series play with this trope.
* [[One-Winged Angel]]: A veritable auto-include, but some games in the series play with this trope.
** ''The Silver Star'' played it straight and gave the final boss a second, monstrous form, complete with epic [[Large Ham]] transformation.
** ''The Silver Star'' played it straight and gave the final boss a second, monstrous form, complete with epic [[Large Ham]] transformation.
{{quote| "''Cower''...in ''fear''...as I demonstrate my '''''TRUE'''''...'''''POWER'''''!"}}
{{quote|"''Cower''...in ''fear''...as I demonstrate my '''''TRUE'''''...'''''POWER'''''!"}}
** The Lunar 1 remakes...{{spoiler|avert this. No monster form. No multiple stages. Just one incredibly hard-hitting [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]].}}
** The Lunar 1 remakes...{{spoiler|avert this. No monster form. No multiple stages. Just one incredibly hard-hitting [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]].}}
** The confrontation with the [[Big Bad]] in ''Lunar 2'' is an ideal example of the trope, with three (or four?) stages, including [[Clipped-Wing Angel]].
** The confrontation with the [[Big Bad]] in ''Lunar 2'' is an ideal example of the trope, with three (or four?) stages, including [[Clipped-Wing Angel]].
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* [[Shout-Out]]: Many of the Working Designs jokes consist of [[Shout-Out|Shout Outs]] of various kinds.
* [[Shout-Out]]: Many of the Working Designs jokes consist of [[Shout-Out|Shout Outs]] of various kinds.
** XSEED's translation of ''Silver Star Harmony'' has a [[Shout-Out]] to ''[[Castlevania]] II: Simon's Quest'' in the form of Nall having a dream about getting a silk bag from a graveyard duck during the camping scene in the Lost Woods:
** XSEED's translation of ''Silver Star Harmony'' has a [[Shout-Out]] to ''[[Castlevania]] II: Simon's Quest'' in the form of Nall having a dream about getting a silk bag from a graveyard duck during the camping scene in the Lost Woods:
{{quote| "Zzzzz...grave...yard...zzz...duck...<br />
{{quote|"Zzzzz...grave...yard...zzz...duck...
...zzz...give me...the...bag..." }}
...zzz...give me...the...bag..." }}
** "Delays are temporary, mediocrity is forever." This line in ''Silver Star Story'', uttered by Myght, is an allusion to [[Working Designs]]' frequent [[Schedule Slip|release schedule slips]]. [[Xseed]] kept it in ''Silver Star Harmony''.
** "Delays are temporary, mediocrity is forever." This line in ''Silver Star Story'', uttered by Myght, is an allusion to [[Working Designs]]' frequent [[Schedule Slip|release schedule slips]]. [[Xseed]] kept it in ''Silver Star Harmony''.