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(Explaining a controversy about Cora's haircuty and some more things about the game.)
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** While it's true that religious extremism is dangerous, the game's treatment of religion overall is dubious. [[Token Religious Teammate]] Suvi is portrayed positively, and is a theist rather than religious. The angara religion is also treated fairly, yet carries an element of [[Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane]]. But it is the villainous kett that the writers saddled with imagery and titles directly ripped from real-life religions, particularly Christianity (the namesakes of the kett characters "Cardinal" and "Primus" are Christian clerical titles), which raises troubling questions. While the Archon doesn't carry the same [[Unfortunate Implication]], some have found his angel imagery in conjunction with his title and story role to be a heavy-handed reference.
** While it's true that religious extremism is dangerous, the game's treatment of religion overall is dubious. [[Token Religious Teammate]] Suvi is portrayed positively, and is a theist rather than religious. The angara religion is also treated fairly, yet carries an element of [[Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane]]. But it is the villainous kett that the writers saddled with imagery and titles directly ripped from real-life religions, particularly Christianity (the namesakes of the kett characters "Cardinal" and "Primus" are Christian clerical titles), which raises troubling questions. While the Archon doesn't carry the same [[Unfortunate Implication]], some have found his angel imagery in conjunction with his title and story role to be a heavy-handed reference.
* [[Base Breaker]]:
* [[Base Breaker]]:
** Cora. While there are fans who like her for her abilities in combat, her personal fortitude and her backstory as of the latest novel (along with positive view on aliens in general), others view her complaints about problems she's faced being a biotic as whining (especially because characters like [[Training From Hell|Kaidan]] and [[Trauma Conga Line|Jack]] had it worse). Some also dislike her culture worship of the asari. Even her ''haircut'' has drawn criticism, with some thinking it was perfect for her, others who disliked it for being like the memetic "I want to talk to the manager" haircut and a very vocal group who considered it's use on Cora a form of cultural misappropriation.
** Cora. While there are fans who like her for her abilities in combat, her personal fortitude and her backstory as of the latest novel (along with positive view on aliens in general), others view her complaints about problems she's faced being a biotic as whining (especially because characters like [[Training From Hell|Kaidan]] and [[Trauma Conga Line|Jack]] had it worse). Some also dislike her culture worship of the asari. Even her ''haircut'' (a sidecut) has drawn criticism, with some thinking it was perfect for her, others who disliked it for being like the memetic "I want to talk to the manager" haircut while a very vocal group among LBGTQ fans considered it's use on the heterosexual Cora a form of cultural misappropriation.
** Liam appears to be one of the most divisive characters in the game. This is due to his interactions with Ryder and the other companions. While he has his fans, there are those who do not like Liam for his treatment towards Vetra and her sister and his reckless actions in his Loyalty Mission (which many consider one of the less well-written missions). He is also nearly identical to Jaal in terms of combat ability and has drawn parallels to Jacob, a rather contentious squadmate from the original trilogy.
** Liam appears to be one of the most divisive characters in the game. This is due to his interactions with Ryder and the other companions. While he has his fans, there are those who do not like Liam for his treatment towards Vetra and her sister and his reckless actions in his Loyalty Mission (which many consider one of the less well-written missions). He is also nearly identical to Jaal in terms of combat ability and has drawn parallels to Jacob, a rather contentious squadmate from the original trilogy.
** Peebee has proven divisive as well. She can be very abrasive and aggravating to talk to and she's often considered a poor substitute for other asari squadmates like Liara or Samara. While this is a deliberate ploy on her part to keep people from getting close because she has trust issues, it still grates for some fans. There are also fans who consider her design ugly and unattractive for a potential Love Interest. There are also fans love her. Reasons include considering her funny - if not one of the funniest characters in the game, enjoying her [[Lovable Sex Maniac|traits]], liking her character arc, or [[My Species Doth Protest Too Much|for being nothing like (and taking some indirect jabs at) other asari in personality nor culture]].
** Peebee has proven divisive as well. She can be very abrasive and aggravating to talk to and she's often considered a poor substitute for other asari squadmates like Liara or Samara. While this is a deliberate ploy on her part to keep people from getting close because she has trust issues, it still grates for some fans. There are also fans who consider her design ugly and unattractive for a potential Love Interest. There are also fans love her. Reasons include considering her funny - if not one of the funniest characters in the game, enjoying her [[Lovable Sex Maniac|traits]], liking her character arc, or [[My Species Doth Protest Too Much|for being nothing like (and taking some indirect jabs at) other asari in personality nor culture]].
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* [[Captain Obvious]]: Some consider the reveal of Voeld to be this. If you completed certain sidequests and paid attention to ambient chatter and your various mission objectives before you reach Voeld, it is easy to figure, and you may already know [[Assimilation Plot|what the kett do with Angara they capture]] before [[The Reveal]].
* [[Captain Obvious]]: Some consider the reveal of Voeld to be this. If you completed certain sidequests and paid attention to ambient chatter and your various mission objectives before you reach Voeld, it is easy to figure, and you may already know [[Assimilation Plot|what the kett do with Angara they capture]] before [[The Reveal]].
* [[Complete Monster]]: The Archon of the Heleus Cluster. In addition to being a [[Hate Sink]] and a [[Scary Dogmatic Aliens|Scary Dogmatic Alien]] he has his own atrocities. {{spoiler|He captured the Salarian Ark and began running tests on them, such as harvesting their organs while they were still alive, or committing Cold-Blooded Torture on them for information.}} When Ryder and co. came to liberate the Ark he [[Sore Loser|eventually attempted to shoot down the Ark, killing the thousands of people within, rather than allow them to escape]]. He is also a [[Bad Boss]], despite the fact that the kett are {{spoiler|literally brainwashed to be loyal to the cause}}, the Archon has any kett punished if he thinks they aren't committed enough. Obsessed with the Remnant technology known as Meridian, the Archon planed to {{spoiler|use its immense terraforming capabilities to force entire races to surrender to exaltation, or else he'll use Meridian to kill all life on their worlds.}} He's even implied to {{spoiler|be a traitor to the kett cause whose [[The Starscream|only out for personal gain and is gathering resources for a coup against the kett leaders]], and his right-hand-woman the Primus betrays him out of fear of what he's planning to do to their home}}. During the final fight, the Archon becomes so enraged at Ryder's efforts that he rescinds the offer entirely and just decides to commit genocide out of petty spite. Even in a genocidal species that views all non-kett life as barely sapient, the Archon of Heleus stands out as a monster among them.
* [[Complete Monster]]: The Archon of the Heleus Cluster. In addition to being a [[Hate Sink]] and a [[Scary Dogmatic Aliens|Scary Dogmatic Alien]] he has his own atrocities. {{spoiler|He captured the Salarian Ark and began running tests on them, such as harvesting their organs while they were still alive, or committing Cold-Blooded Torture on them for information.}} When Ryder and co. came to liberate the Ark he [[Sore Loser|eventually attempted to shoot down the Ark, killing the thousands of people within, rather than allow them to escape]]. He is also a [[Bad Boss]], despite the fact that the kett are {{spoiler|literally brainwashed to be loyal to the cause}}, the Archon has any kett punished if he thinks they aren't committed enough. Obsessed with the Remnant technology known as Meridian, the Archon planed to {{spoiler|use its immense terraforming capabilities to force entire races to surrender to exaltation, or else he'll use Meridian to kill all life on their worlds.}} He's even implied to {{spoiler|be a traitor to the kett cause whose [[The Starscream|only out for personal gain and is gathering resources for a coup against the kett leaders]], and his right-hand-woman the Primus betrays him out of fear of what he's planning to do to their home}}. During the final fight, the Archon becomes so enraged at Ryder's efforts that he rescinds the offer entirely and just decides to commit genocide out of petty spite. Even in a genocidal species that views all non-kett life as barely sapient, the Archon of Heleus stands out as a monster among them.
* [[Eight Deadly Words]]: While views of the characters have been divisive, many fans consider the game to have failed to get them invested in the characters. The reasons for this include finding them [[Replacement Scrappy|Replacement Scrappies]] for their equivalent from the trilogy, [[Flat Character|too one-dimensional or undeveloped]] or even if they were good [[Tough Act To Follow|they are considered inferior to similar characters from the trilogy]].
* [[Eight Deadly Words]]: While views of the characters have been divisive, many fans consider the game to have failed to get them invested in the characters. The reasons for this include finding them [[Replacement Scrappy|Replacement Scrappies]] for their equivalent from the trilogy, [[Flat Character|too one-dimensional or undeveloped]] or even if they were good [[Tough Act to Follow|they are considered inferior to similar characters from the trilogy]].
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Bain Massani has quite a fanbase among those who like the game. Reasons include being a bounty hunter, son of the second game's squadmate Zaeed Massani, and being skilled enough to hunt kett without too much difficulty.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Bain Massani has quite a fanbase among those who like the game. Reasons include being a bounty hunter, son of the second game's squadmate Zaeed Massani, and being skilled enough to hunt kett without too much difficulty.
* [[Narm]]:
* [[Narm]]: