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** While the pro-LBGTQ stance of the game is well known and received, the execution has been heavy-handed. Two prominent examples are how lesbian character Suvi Anwar had disproportionate emphasis put on her sexuality during advertisement and before a patch the game featured transsexual character Hainly Abrams, a quest giver for an important quest chain, deadnaming in the first conversation. Also, the homosexual romance between Male Ryder/Gil is the only romance where a Ryder of either gender has the option to start a family with their love interest (Jaal's mother sends a friendly [[I Want Grandkids]] message to Ryder if they romance Jaal, but there's no options available). |
** While the pro-LBGTQ stance of the game is well known and received, the execution has been heavy-handed. Two prominent examples are how lesbian character Suvi Anwar had disproportionate emphasis put on her sexuality during advertisement and before a patch the game featured transsexual character Hainly Abrams, a quest giver for an important quest chain, deadnaming in the first conversation. Also, the homosexual romance between Male Ryder/Gil is the only romance where a Ryder of either gender has the option to start a family with their love interest (Jaal's mother sends a friendly [[I Want Grandkids]] message to Ryder if they romance Jaal, but there's no options available). |
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** While the kett are [[Scary Dogmatic Aliens]] and [[Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped| |
** While the kett are [[Scary Dogmatic Aliens]] and [[Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped|the Nazis are notorious for good reasons]], some considered the kett an egregious example of this as, in addition to the standard trappings, the kett also had deadly prison camps for undesirables and they - especially the Archon - kept getting saddled with the [[Villain Ball]] (since some Nazis were capable of using [[Pragmatic Villainy]] to devastating effect). |
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** Science fiction is no stranger to discussing the perils of religious extremism, with the kett also having a religious bent to the [[Scary Dogmatic Aliens]] trope. However the writers went as far as to saddle them with imagery and titles directly ripped from completely dissimilar real-life religions, particularly Christianity (the namesake of the kett characters "Cardinal" and "Primus" being Christian clerical titles), which raises troubling questions. While the Archon doesn't carry the same [[Unfortunate Implication]], some have found his angel imagery in conjunction with his title and story role to be a heavy-handed reference. |
** Science fiction is no stranger to discussing the perils of religious extremism, with the kett also having a religious bent to the [[Scary Dogmatic Aliens]] trope. However the writers went as far as to saddle them with imagery and titles directly ripped from completely dissimilar real-life religions, particularly Christianity (the namesake of the kett characters "Cardinal" and "Primus" being Christian clerical titles), which raises troubling questions. While the Archon doesn't carry the same [[Unfortunate Implication]], some have found his angel imagery in conjunction with his title and story role to be a heavy-handed reference. |
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* [[Captain Obvious]]: Some consider the reveal of Voeld to be this. If you completed certain sidequests and paid attention to ambient chatter and your various mission objectives before you reach Voeld, it is easy to figure, and you may already know [[Assimilation Plot|what the kett do with Angara they capture]] before [[The Reveal]]. |
* [[Captain Obvious]]: Some consider the reveal of Voeld to be this. If you completed certain sidequests and paid attention to ambient chatter and your various mission objectives before you reach Voeld, it is easy to figure, and you may already know [[Assimilation Plot|what the kett do with Angara they capture]] before [[The Reveal]]. |
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* [[Complete Monster]]: The Archon of the Heleus Cluster. In addition to being a [[Hate Sink]] and a [[Scary Dogmatic Alien]] he has his own atrocities. {{spoiler|He captured the Salarian Ark and began running tests on them, such as harvesting their organs while they were still alive, or committing Cold-Blooded Torture on them for information.}} When Ryder and co. came to liberate the Ark he [[Sore Loser|eventually attempted to shoot down the Ark, killing the thousands of Salarians within, rather than allow them to escape]]. He is also a [[Bad Boss]], despite the fact that the kett are {{spoiler|literally brainwashed to be loyal to the cause}}, having them punished if he thinks they aren't committed enough. Obsessed with the Remnant technology known as Meridian, the Archon planed to {{spoiler|use its immense terraforming capabilities to force entire races to surrender to exaltation, or else he'll use Meridian to kill all life on their worlds.}} He's even implied to {{spoiler|be a traitor to the kett cause whose [[The Starscream|only out for personal gain and is gathering resources for a coup against the kett leaders]], and his right-hand-woman the Primus betrays him out of fear of what he's planning to do to their home}}. During the final fight, the Archon becomes so enraged at Ryder's efforts that he rescinds the offer entirely and just decides to commit genocide out of petty spite. Even in a genocidal species that views all non-kett life as barely sapient, the Archon of Heleus stands out as a monster among them. |
* [[Complete Monster]]: The Archon of the Heleus Cluster. In addition to being a [[Hate Sink]] and a [[Scary Dogmatic Alien]] he has his own atrocities. {{spoiler|He captured the Salarian Ark and began running tests on them, such as harvesting their organs while they were still alive, or committing Cold-Blooded Torture on them for information.}} When Ryder and co. came to liberate the Ark he [[Sore Loser|eventually attempted to shoot down the Ark, killing the thousands of Salarians within, rather than allow them to escape]]. He is also a [[Bad Boss]], despite the fact that the kett are {{spoiler|literally brainwashed to be loyal to the cause}}, having them punished if he thinks they aren't committed enough. Obsessed with the Remnant technology known as Meridian, the Archon planed to {{spoiler|use its immense terraforming capabilities to force entire races to surrender to exaltation, or else he'll use Meridian to kill all life on their worlds.}} He's even implied to {{spoiler|be a traitor to the kett cause whose [[The Starscream|only out for personal gain and is gathering resources for a coup against the kett leaders]], and his right-hand-woman the Primus betrays him out of fear of what he's planning to do to their home}}. During the final fight, the Archon becomes so enraged at Ryder's efforts that he rescinds the offer entirely and just decides to commit genocide out of petty spite. Even in a genocidal species that views all non-kett life as barely sapient, the Archon of Heleus stands out as a monster among them. |
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* [[Tough Act to Follow]]: Some consider the game to be this. This because it follows the (generally) well regarded Mass Effect trilogy, as well as the fact that it had to prove there is still plenty of life and potential in franchise after the infamous ending to the original trilogy). This led some fans and critics to compare Andromeda to its predecessors, which played a role in some of the mixed and negative reactions it received; it hass also been speculated if the game would've been more warmly recevied had it not been released so soon after hit games such as ''Horizon Zero Dawn''. |
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