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** Socqueline has been named 'canon Bridgette' due to her resemblance to her.
** Ladybug! Chloe is often called Scarlet Lady due to a [https://zoe-oneesama.tumblr.com/post/178833797634/the-scarlet-lady-based-off-the-distopian-kwami popular web-comic] (though due to that comic not having her be redeemed, this is mostly [[In Name Only]] in fics).
*** To a lesser extent, there's also Lady Luck due to [https://archiveofourown.org/works/20014693/chapters/47390521 this fanficton].
** Marigold for Bee!Marinette also thanks to the popular web-comic.
** Coccinelle is a commonly used alternative name for Ladybug users, but specifically it has been used for Ladybug!Luka.
* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: Of the Love Square's combinations, Marinette/Chat Noir seems the most popular, as it's the combo in which they just talk openly and honestly to each other.
** On the other side, Chloe's more likely to be deemed a lesbian by the fanbase and be shipped with either Alix or Kagami. Even if she kept liking men, she's more likely to be shipped with Luka than the any of her canon male interests she's interacted with (Adrien/Kim).
* [[Fanfic Fuel]]: Chloé getting a full fledged redemption arc. Her doubling down in the later season has made fan work creators double down on this narrative.
** We've seen canon!Felix, what would canon!Bridgette be like? Assuming you don't think she and Marinette or Socqueline are the same character.
** What would Princess Justice and Verity Queen look and act like?
*** Honestly, what would any of Marinette's almost akumatized forms look and act like?
* [[Fanon Discontinuity]]:
** Season 3 through 5 haven't been received well by fans for a multitude of reasons ([[Locked Out of the Loop|Adrien/Chat being reduced more and more]], Chloe losing her [[Character Development]] and becoming worse as the seasons went on, Felix and especially [[Abusive Parents|Gabriel]] becoming [[Karma Houdini]]s, '''everything''' about [[Replacement Scrappy|Zoe]], etc). Many wish the show would've ended at season 2 or at least that the later seasons would've been severely rewritten.
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** Nino and Chris have neglectful parents hence why Nino is always taking care of Chris and why he was so quick to take the actions of Gabriel in "The Bubbler" and apply it to every adult.
** Some fanfics that rewrite the episode 'Rogercop' provide an explanation for why Adrien had to manually remove Plagg from Chloé's bracelet instead of allowing Plagg to phase through it, as he had done on numerous occasions in the past. According to these fanfics, the reason behind this is because Chloe's bracelet is some magic artifact (the specifics often depend of the writer).
** Thanks to Alt!Adrien having a crush on Alt!Marinette, many viewers have made Shadybug have a crush on Claw Noir to fully reverse the love square.
* [[Fashion Victim Villain]]: Granted half the time, it's deliberate. However other times, the villain in question is supposed to be intimidating or at least taken seriously, they look too ridiculous for the audience to do so.
* [[Friendly Fandoms]]: With the ''Batman'' franchise (namely thanks to [[Crossover Ship|MariBat]]). Though with how much fan works it has to the point people who are looking for either fanfic of one them have to filter them out the other (or just try and avoid them all together in some fic sites' cases) and several fics are also [[Revenge Fic|'salt']] fics of this show, there is some [[Fandom Rivalry]] there as well.
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* [[Ships That Pass in the Night]]: Due to both being self-relying villains, people have paired up Felix and Lila up.
** Despite not meeting, there's also Felix/Socqueline, due to the latter's resemblance to [[Fan Nickname|'Bridgette']] (Marinette in the original PV).
** Nino and Sabrina don't know each other that well, but they're a growing alternate pairing for people who don't like Alya (and thus, DJWifi) but like Nino enough to not want him alone.
** Chloe/Nathaniel were shipped together to get rid of obstacles for the Love Square. It somewhat faded after Marc (and Luka/Kagami) were introduced, but it's not gone.
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]:
** In 'The Evillustrator', when the titular villain sees Chat Noir attempting to save Marinette, he accuses Marinette of being like Chloe. Special notice of him saying they both 'lead him on'. We never see this occurring beforehand and as far as the audience knew Nathaniel hated Chloe just for being a bully like everyone else.
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** Marinette in 'The Gamer'. Granted she feels bad for it and kind of gets called out for it by Alya, but she takes Max's chance to play in the tournament just to be with Adrien. Her trying to give her position to him at the end gained her back some fans but needless to say, [[All for Nothing|many people were glad Marinette didn't end up playing with Adrien.]]
*** More debatable but Max for those that believe he got mad at Marinette winning because [[I Was Beaten by a Girl|she's a girl.]]
** Marinette/Ladybug in the 'Santa Claws: A Christmas Special' for attacking Santa Claus because she thought he was an akuma and that being the thing that broke the camel's back and made him actually turn into one! Not helping is that aside from Santa Claws first targeting her, neither Adrien (neither as himself or Chat) or Santa call her out for this.
* [[What an Idiot!|What An Idiot]]: Honestly anytime Alya puts herself in danger for the sake of her blog.
** In 'The Pharaoh', Marinette could have avoided the whole need to lie to Alya if she didn't drop her textbook as Ladybug (why she did that in the first place is never explained).
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*** Some have wondered why Alya didn't just suggest Marinette text Adrien (or even offer to text for her) instead of having an embarrassing one-sided phone conversation. Then, Marinette wouldn't have to steal Adrien's phone to delete an embarrassing voicemail.
** Granted there is [[Informed Wrongness]] on Ladybug's part, but still, several fans have pointed out if Ladybug had listened to Chloe about defeating Vanisher, she wouldn't have to deal with her as Antibug.
** Ladybug attacking Santa in 'Santa Claws: A Christmas Special'. Not only is he clearly not akumatized, but she doesn't listen to Adrien, when he tries to tell her he isn't. By time, she realizes the truth and tries to apologize, Santa is upset enough to actually be akumatized!
* [[Why Would Anyone Take Him Back?]] Ondine regarding Kim in 'Derision'. You can argue since he's remorseful at the end, he deserves a second chance but with all his actions in that episode being so bad, fans were wondering why she didn't dump him.
** A huge chunk of the audience had this reactions towards Marinette's crush on Adrien when it's revealed he knew Lila was lying but was trying to take the high road regarding the situation. This has lessened since he has cut off Lila but this opinion still persists.
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