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== Film ==
== Film ==
* General Glozelle in ''[[Narnia|Prince Caspian]]'' (the film, maybe in the book too, but my memory is hazy). Throughout the film, he's got this squeamish but helpless look, has some dialogue with Lord Sopesian to the effect of "watch your butt, or Miraz'll kill you", and looks utterly devastated when King Miraz orders him to kill some of his soldiers to make it look like Caspian is bloodthirsty...which he does. He seems relieved when Aslan offers the Telmarines a fresh start someplace else.
* General Glozelle in ''[[Narnia|Prince Caspian]]'' (the film, maybe in the book too, but my memory is hazy). Throughout the film, he's got this squeamish but helpless look, has some dialogue with Lord Sopesian to the effect of "watch your butt, or Miraz'll kill you", and looks utterly devastated when King Miraz orders him to kill some of his soldiers to make it look like Caspian is bloodthirsty...which he does. He seems relieved when Aslan offers the Telmarines a fresh start someplace else.
** Not the book. They were both utter scheming bastards in the book, who knew they were smarter than Miraz and manipulated him into agreeing to single combat (with ''Peter'') because as far as they were concerned they had nothing to lose--Miraz was the only thing really at risk, and they don't view him as a strategic asset. Rather the opposite, which was why they took the opportunity to stab him in the back and blame it on Peter.
** Not the book. They were both utter scheming bastards in the book, who knew they were smarter than Miraz and manipulated him into agreeing to single combat (with ''Peter'') because as far as they were concerned they had nothing to lose—Miraz was the only thing really at risk, and they don't view him as a strategic asset. Rather the opposite, which was why they took the opportunity to stab him in the back and blame it on Peter.
* ''[[The 47 Ronin]]''.
* ''[[The 47 Ronin]]''.
* ''[[The Man in the Iron Mask]]'' ([[The Movie]]) has one of the musketeers be blindly loyal to Louis, despite his evil and capricious nature, because {{spoiler|he is Louis' father.}} Eventually, he comes around to the other musketeers' viewpoint that he's gotta go, when he learns that {{spoiler|their look-alike for the king is his twin brother}}.
* ''[[The Man in the Iron Mask]]'' ([[The Movie]]) has one of the musketeers be blindly loyal to Louis, despite his evil and capricious nature, because {{spoiler|he is Louis' father.}} Eventually, he comes around to the other musketeers' viewpoint that he's gotta go, when he learns that {{spoiler|their look-alike for the king is his twin brother}}.
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** Also the Wardens, perhaps most notable with Morgan. In ''Proven Guilty'', Harry makes such a convincing argument for {{spoiler|Molly}} to be granted clemency that even Morgan is horrified when the Merlin sentences her to death, but he nevertheless moves to carry out the sentence, looking sickened the whole while.
** Also the Wardens, perhaps most notable with Morgan. In ''Proven Guilty'', Harry makes such a convincing argument for {{spoiler|Molly}} to be granted clemency that even Morgan is horrified when the Merlin sentences her to death, but he nevertheless moves to carry out the sentence, looking sickened the whole while.
* An interesting subversion in ''Crusade'': long in the past, the war leader Cranaa'tolnatha was ordered by the leader of an allied clan - overall commander of a combined force - to obey a battle plan that he knew would result in the forces of all the joined clans except the traitorous warlord's being killed. But he didn't have any actual proof, so he had to choose between obeying his orders and dooming his clan, or disobeying orders and being stripped of all honor and banished from all inhabited lands. He chose to save his people, and was disgraced. But centuries later, Cranaa'tolnatha, the warrior who had the courage to dishonor himself in order to save his people, was remembered as the single greatest hero of the Orion Khanate, while ''nobody'' remembered the name of the treacherous warlord he betrayed, not even the clan he once led. His name had been removed from the clan rolls out of shame.
* An interesting subversion in ''Crusade'': long in the past, the war leader Cranaa'tolnatha was ordered by the leader of an allied clan - overall commander of a combined force - to obey a battle plan that he knew would result in the forces of all the joined clans except the traitorous warlord's being killed. But he didn't have any actual proof, so he had to choose between obeying his orders and dooming his clan, or disobeying orders and being stripped of all honor and banished from all inhabited lands. He chose to save his people, and was disgraced. But centuries later, Cranaa'tolnatha, the warrior who had the courage to dishonor himself in order to save his people, was remembered as the single greatest hero of the Orion Khanate, while ''nobody'' remembered the name of the treacherous warlord he betrayed, not even the clan he once led. His name had been removed from the clan rolls out of shame.
* Marcus Antonius, in ''The Light Bearer'', is cast by his "friend", the Emperor Domitian, as Chief Advisor -- he soon realizes that Domitian has crossed the [[Moral Event Horizon]], but takes years carefully planning his death to prevent a revolt.
* Marcus Antonius, in ''The Light Bearer'', is cast by his "friend", the Emperor Domitian, as Chief Advisor—he soon realizes that Domitian has crossed the [[Moral Event Horizon]], but takes years carefully planning his death to prevent a revolt.
* In [[Robert E. Howard]]'s [[Conan the Barbarian]] story "A Witch Shall be Born", Valerius, despite Tamaris' sudden transformation into [[The Caligula]], is deeply troubled by the thought of revolt.
* In [[Robert E. Howard]]'s [[Conan the Barbarian]] story "A Witch Shall be Born", Valerius, despite Tamaris' sudden transformation into [[The Caligula]], is deeply troubled by the thought of revolt.
{{quote|''We hardly knew what we were fighting for, but it was against Constantius and his devils—not against Taramis, I swear it! Constantius shouted to cut the traitors down. We were not traitors!''}}
{{quote|''We hardly knew what we were fighting for, but it was against Constantius and his devils—not against Taramis, I swear it! Constantius shouted to cut the traitors down. We were not traitors!''}}
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== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
* This is the struggle ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]''' Karai faces in the second and third seasons of the second cartoon, where the character's loyalty to her adoptive father, The Shredder, clashes with her more noble instincts. One of the forms this clash takes is in her reluctance to kill the turtles, who had agreed to help her restore the New York Foot in exchange for ending the syndicate's vendetta against the turtles. While the agreement was made under false pretenses--it was made under the assumption that the Shredder was dead and that Karai would be leading the Foot, which Karai knew was not the case--she still felt compelled to keep it, despite her father's wishes.
* This is the struggle ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]''' Karai faces in the second and third seasons of the second cartoon, where the character's loyalty to her adoptive father, The Shredder, clashes with her more noble instincts. One of the forms this clash takes is in her reluctance to kill the turtles, who had agreed to help her restore the New York Foot in exchange for ending the syndicate's vendetta against the turtles. While the agreement was made under false pretenses—it was made under the assumption that the Shredder was dead and that Karai would be leading the Foot, which Karai knew was not the case—she still felt compelled to keep it, despite her father's wishes.
** Of course, following the Shredder's exile into space, Karai [[Dragon Ascendant|takes up his mantle]] and decides to [[Avenging the Villain|avenge him]], so she ultimately did pick him over the turtles.
** Of course, following the Shredder's exile into space, Karai [[Dragon Ascendant|takes up his mantle]] and decides to [[Avenging the Villain|avenge him]], so she ultimately did pick him over the turtles.
*** Until he returns in the ''[[Turtles Forever]]'' movie, now as an [[Omnicidal Maniac]]. This proves to be [[Even Evil Has Standards|too much for her]], and she [[Heel Face Turn|sides with the turtles against him]].
*** Until he returns in the ''[[Turtles Forever]]'' movie, now as an [[Omnicidal Maniac]]. This proves to be [[Even Evil Has Standards|too much for her]], and she [[Heel Face Turn|sides with the turtles against him]].