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== Action-Adventure Games == |
== Action-Adventure Games == |
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* ''[[The Legend of Zelda (Franchise)|The Legend of Zelda]]'' is a bit of a mess, as [[Fanon]] persists in trying to find some coherent continuity between the games. [[Word of God]] stated the [[Time Travel]] shenanigans in ''[[The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time]]'' actually ''split'' the timeline, giving twice the elbow room for [[Fan Wank]]-ery. Though thanks to Shigeru Miyamoto's occasional nonsensical statements, nobody's sure if [[Word of God]] knows what it's talking about at any given time anyways. |
* ''[[The Legend of Zelda (Franchise)|The Legend of Zelda]]'' is a bit of a mess, as [[Fanon]] persists in trying to find some coherent continuity between the games. [[Word of God]] stated the [[Time Travel]] shenanigans in ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time]]'' actually ''split'' the timeline, giving twice the elbow room for [[Fan Wank]]-ery. Though thanks to Shigeru Miyamoto's occasional nonsensical statements, nobody's sure if [[Word of God]] knows what it's talking about at any given time anyways. |
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** The situation becomes even more complicated, as [[Word of God]] has a tendency to contradict itself on this matter. ''[[The Legend of Zelda a Link To T He Past (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda a Link To T He Past]]'' is before the original two games, then it's after; ''[[Ocarina of Time]]'' has gone in and out of being considered the [[Backstory]] to ''Link To The Past''. About the only constant has been that ''Ocarina'' is the major series starting point, giving a definitive origin to Ganon, the series [[Big Bad]]. Though even that position is being usurped by ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword]]'', which is giving a definitive origin for the [[Sword of Plot Advancement|Master Sword]] (which was already in play during ''Ocarina''). |
** The situation becomes even more complicated, as [[Word of God]] has a tendency to contradict itself on this matter. ''[[The Legend of Zelda a Link To T He Past (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda a Link To T He Past]]'' is before the original two games, then it's after; ''[[Ocarina of Time]]'' has gone in and out of being considered the [[Backstory]] to ''Link To The Past''. About the only constant has been that ''Ocarina'' is the major series starting point, giving a definitive origin to Ganon, the series [[Big Bad]]. Though even that position is being usurped by ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword]]'', which is giving a definitive origin for the [[Sword of Plot Advancement|Master Sword]] (which was already in play during ''Ocarina''). |
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** The series timeline has been recently revealed in the book "Hyrule Historia", turns out the timeline was split in 3 branches in OOT. |
** The series timeline has been recently revealed in the book "Hyrule Historia", turns out the timeline was split in 3 branches in OOT. |
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* In chronological order of the plotline, the ''[[Devil May Cry (Video Game)|Devil May Cry]]'' series goes as follows: ''Devil May Cry 3'', ''Devil May Cry'', ''Devil May Cry 4'', then ''Devil May Cry 2''. |
* In chronological order of the plotline, the ''[[Devil May Cry (Video Game)|Devil May Cry]]'' series goes as follows: ''Devil May Cry 3'', ''Devil May Cry'', ''Devil May Cry 4'', then ''Devil May Cry 2''. |
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** It's worth noting that the chronology came out like that because ''Devil May Cry 2'' was such a mess the devs were jumping around to avoid mentioning anything about that game. |
** It's worth noting that the chronology came out like that because ''Devil May Cry 2'' was such a mess the devs were jumping around to avoid mentioning anything about that game. |
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** And now there's ''[[Dm C Devil May Cry (Video Game)|DmC: Devil May Cry]]'', which was originally ''another'' prequel (well, more like [[Continuity Reboot]]) set ''before'' ''3'' [[Flip |
** And now there's ''[[Dm C Devil May Cry (Video Game)|DmC: Devil May Cry]]'', which was originally ''another'' prequel (well, more like [[Continuity Reboot]]) set ''before'' ''3'' [[Flip-Flop of God|and is now set in]] [[Alternate Continuity|a parallel universe]]. |
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== Platformers == |
== Platformers == |
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** ''[[Breath of Fire]] I-III'' are canonically (per [[Word of God|Word Of Capcom]] and storyline) in the same universe but separated by millenia between games. |
** ''[[Breath of Fire]] I-III'' are canonically (per [[Word of God|Word Of Capcom]] and storyline) in the same universe but separated by millenia between games. |
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** ''[[Breath of Fire]] V'', aka ''Dragon Quarter'', is (per [[Word of God|Word Of Capcom]]) in its own [[Alternate Universe]] completely unrelated to other games in the series. The gameplay is also radically different, to the point it actually resulted in a [[Broken Base]] within that fandom. |
** ''[[Breath of Fire]] V'', aka ''Dragon Quarter'', is (per [[Word of God|Word Of Capcom]]) in its own [[Alternate Universe]] completely unrelated to other games in the series. The gameplay is also radically different, to the point it actually resulted in a [[Broken Base]] within that fandom. |
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** The real mess comes in sorting out where ''[[Breath of Fire]] IV'' fits, because there ''is'' no [[Word of God|Word Of Capcom]] where the game fits, the game was rushed to production to outrun [[Author Existence Failure]], and subsequent [[All There in the Manual|supplementary material]] (like the artbook, a [[Novelization]], a second ''[[Breath of Fire]]'' Complete Works artbook, no less than two side-stories that were released for [[No Export for You|Japanese smartphones]], and finally a [[Comic Book Adaptation|manga]] that relied ''heavily'' on info from the artbook and Capcom's production staff) have done ''absolutely nothing'' to clarify this. As a result, a ''lot'' of [[Fanon]] and occasional [[Fan Wank]] occurs as to whether ''IV'' is an [[Alternate Universe]] or a [[Non |
** The real mess comes in sorting out where ''[[Breath of Fire]] IV'' fits, because there ''is'' no [[Word of God|Word Of Capcom]] where the game fits, the game was rushed to production to outrun [[Author Existence Failure]], and subsequent [[All There in the Manual|supplementary material]] (like the artbook, a [[Novelization]], a second ''[[Breath of Fire]]'' Complete Works artbook, no less than two side-stories that were released for [[No Export for You|Japanese smartphones]], and finally a [[Comic Book Adaptation|manga]] that relied ''heavily'' on info from the artbook and Capcom's production staff) have done ''absolutely nothing'' to clarify this. As a result, a ''lot'' of [[Fanon]] and occasional [[Fan Wank]] occurs as to whether ''IV'' is an [[Alternate Universe]] or a [[Non-Linear Sequel]] (with the most popular [[Fanon]] Timeline going towards it being a [[Non-Linear Sequel]] that is a prequel to ''I-III''). |
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* The first two ''[[Lufia]]'' games where placed in reverse order, with ''Lufia II'' happening before ''Lufia I''. The first game even ''started'' with [[A Taste of Power]] that eventually became the final conflict in the second game, creating a nice little loop of continuity. |
* The first two ''[[Lufia]]'' games where placed in reverse order, with ''Lufia II'' happening before ''Lufia I''. The first game even ''started'' with [[A Taste of Power]] that eventually became the final conflict in the second game, creating a nice little loop of continuity. |
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* Konami also has another series that deals with this particular trope: ''[[Suikoden]]''. The games all take place in the same world (except for ''[[Suikoden Tierkreis|Tierkreis]]''), but all take place in different regions and, more importantly, different times. To be specific, the first game to occur chronologically was ''[[Suikoden IV]]''. One hundred and fifty years later, we experience the events of ''[[Suikoden V]]'', then we get the original ''[[Suikoden I]]'' five years later, with ''[[Suikoden II]]'' following it up with the shortest time span between games (a mere three years), then we get ''[[Suikoden III]]'' 15 years after that. |
* Konami also has another series that deals with this particular trope: ''[[Suikoden]]''. The games all take place in the same world (except for ''[[Suikoden Tierkreis|Tierkreis]]''), but all take place in different regions and, more importantly, different times. To be specific, the first game to occur chronologically was ''[[Suikoden IV]]''. One hundred and fifty years later, we experience the events of ''[[Suikoden V]]'', then we get the original ''[[Suikoden I]]'' five years later, with ''[[Suikoden II]]'' following it up with the shortest time span between games (a mere three years), then we get ''[[Suikoden III]]'' 15 years after that. |
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* ''[[Kamen Rider Agito]]'' explicitly takes place in the same universe as ''[[Kamen Rider Kuuga]]''; the only on-screen references to this are a couple of off-hand mentions of the Grongi (Kuuga's enemies) and the G3 suit being built by the police based off of data taken on "Unidentified Lifeform #4" (the Tokyo Police's callname for Kuuga). There was also said to be a [[Great Ofscreen War]] where the Grongi were killed off by the Lords, Agito's enemies. |
* ''[[Kamen Rider Agito]]'' explicitly takes place in the same universe as ''[[Kamen Rider Kuuga]]''; the only on-screen references to this are a couple of off-hand mentions of the Grongi (Kuuga's enemies) and the G3 suit being built by the police based off of data taken on "Unidentified Lifeform #4" (the Tokyo Police's callname for Kuuga). There was also said to be a [[Great Ofscreen War]] where the Grongi were killed off by the Lords, Agito's enemies. |
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** This all gets referenced in ''[[Kamen Rider Decade]]'', where the [[Alternate Universe]] Agito World they visit is also an alternate Kuuga World, with the [[Great Offscreen War]] actively happening and an alternate version of Decade!Kuuga's [[Cool Big Sis]] mentor showing up as the head scientist behind the G3 Project. |
** This all gets referenced in ''[[Kamen Rider Decade]]'', where the [[Alternate Universe]] Agito World they visit is also an alternate Kuuga World, with the [[Great Offscreen War]] actively happening and an alternate version of Decade!Kuuga's [[Cool Big Sis]] mentor showing up as the head scientist behind the G3 Project. |
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** ''[[Kamen Rider]]'' does this a lot, but more recently it's intensified. ''[[Kamen Rider Double]]'' makes an off-hand reference to [[Kamen Rider OOO]]'s [[Transformation Trinket]] in one of the later episodes, and two of [[Kamen Rider Fourze]]'s friends make a blink-and-you'll-miss-it cameo in the final episode of ''OOO''. And on top of that, the [[Early |
** ''[[Kamen Rider]]'' does this a lot, but more recently it's intensified. ''[[Kamen Rider Double]]'' makes an off-hand reference to [[Kamen Rider OOO]]'s [[Transformation Trinket]] in one of the later episodes, and two of [[Kamen Rider Fourze]]'s friends make a blink-and-you'll-miss-it cameo in the final episode of ''OOO''. And on top of that, the [[Early-Bird Cameo]] pulled by OOO in Double's [[Big Damn Movie]] is explicitly referenced in the next movie, suggesting it's canon to both (as are, presumably, [[Kamen Rider Decade]]'s encounter with Double and Fourze dropping in to help OOO with his movie's [[Big Bad]]). |
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