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{{trope}}
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Sequels have a tendency to be burdened with bizarre subtitles or inconsistent naming.
This is sometimes to distance it from more conventionally [[Numbered Sequels]] of low quality or an attempt to avoid scaring off potential viewers who might not watch a sequel when they aren't familiar with the original, but just as often seems to be applied at random.
A subset of the trope is when later installments drop the affix of earlier installments, commonly creating the illusion that a series is smaller than it really is. The reverse of this is, of course, when earlier installments are retroactively renamed to better fit in with their descendants.
Adding multiple subtitles is likely to cause [[Colon Cancer]]. When it is added in translations, it is called [[The Foreign Subtitle]]. May overlap with [[Numbered Sequels]] and [[Revenge of the Sequel]]. Combining [[Colon Cancer]] and [[Numbered Sequels]] can lead to [[Capcom Sequel Stagnation]].
When a bizarre phrase ''is'' the title, see [[Word Salad Title]]. For more literal subtitles, see [[In Which a Trope Is Described]]. For awe-inspiring subtitles, see [[Mad Lib Fantasy Title]]. For odd title changes in an ongoing series, see [[New Season, New Name]].
See also [[Stock Subtitle]] and [[Unusual Chapter Numbers]].
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▲[[What the Heck Is An Aglet|And just in case you're wondering]]: [[wikipedia:Boogaloo|Boogaloo]].
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== Trope Namer ==
* The trope is named for the movie ''Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo''. The subtitle struck many as hilarious (incidentally, the "electric boogaloo" is an actual style of dance), and since then, "Electric Boogaloo" has been used as a spoof subtitle for a sequel to just about anything, especially a sequel perceived or expected to be of inferior quality, or sequels with unwieldy subtitles.
** The second [[
** Fans were deeply, deeply saddened when no amount of letter writing could convince [[Michael Bay]] to name his sequel ''[[Transformers (
** In an episode of the ''[[Clerks]]'' animated series, Randall described Dante's relationship as "Caitlin and Dante 2: Electric Boogaloo."
** In an episode of ''[[
** Also referenced in''[[Yu-Gi-Oh! GX]]'' of all things, when Chazz plays "Beatron 2: Electric [[A Worldwide Punomenon|Bug]]aloo, uhhh, what I meant was Beetle Turbo".
** Used by Kevin Bishop on his Channel 4 sketch show, when spoofing unnecessary sequels: "Shindler's List 2: Electric Boogaloo"
** One of the tutorials in [[Holy Invasion of Privacy Badman|Badman 2]] is titled "Demons 2: Electric Boogaloo".
** The English adaptation of the ''Pokémon'' manga ''[[The Electric Tale of Pikachu]]'' that roughly follows the plot of the TV show's second volume was ''Electric Pikachu Boogaloo''.
** In an episode of ''[[Mr. Show]]'', a director is described as "the best thing to come out of Hollywood since sliced bread, not to mention its sequel, Sliced Bread II: Electric Boogaloo."
** ''[[Clone High]]'''s second episode is titled "Episode Two: Election Blu-Galoo".
** [[The Great
** An episode of ''[[Phineas and Ferb]]'' parodies this with the title "Phineas and Ferb's Quantum Boogaloo". It was the second episode to feature time travel. It was also the second episode to feature Phineas and Ferb's giant roller coaster. For the record, the original title the creators wanted to go with was "Time Machine 2: Quantum Boogaloo".
** Parodied [[Overly Long Gag|once again]] in ''[[Calvin and Hobbes
== [[Anime]]
* The clearest example is ''[[
** Strictly speaking, only ''Z'' and ''ZZ'' are really sequels. The rest are either UC spinoffs (08th MS team, War in the Pocket, 0083, F91); or other universes (G Gundam, Gundam W, SEED, and so on). Turn A is somewhat of a crossover series, but I'd toss it in the 'other' bin too since it isn't strictly UC.
*** It's worth noting that in many cases, the series are named for the latest variant of the eponymous Mobile Suit.
* ''[[Full Metal Panic!]]'' was followed by ''Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu'', which in turn was followed by ''Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid'', making it the ''third'' series, not the second. (On the other hand, ''Fumoffu'' was more of a side story anthology than a true second chapter.)
** Following the manga reveals that the sidestories in "Fumoffu" should have taken place ''during'' the first season, interspersed with the more serious episodes, so it's not really a sequel at all.
* ''[[
* ''[[
** Some of the suffixes actually make sense. The "J" stands for Japoness, one of the six nations (yes, a clone of [[Medieval Japan]]) and the main theater in the first series. The "Again" is just an OVA follow-up. The X stands for "Xian", another nation (representing China), which plays some role in J-X, and the "R" stands for Romana (representing Italy), the center of the R series.
*** ''J to X'' can also refer to {{spoiler|the X chromosome}} since this season deals a lot with the marionettes' desires to {{spoiler|become human girls.}}
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** Tha manga are named ''Slayers Medieval Mayhem'', ''Slayers Super-Explosive Demon Story'', ''Slayers Special'', ''Slayers Premium'', ''Slayers Knight of the Aqualord'', ''Slayers Revolution'', ''Slayers Evolution-R'' and ''Slayers Legend''
** The radio dramas are named (''Slayers Extra'', ''Slayers N'extra'', ''Slayers Premium'', ''Slayers VS Orphen'', and ''The Return of Slayers Ex'')
** The video games were ''Slayers Royal'' for [[Sega Saturn]], ''Slayers Royal 2'' for [[Sega Saturn]] and [[
* ''[[Weiss Kreuz]]'' does this in both original and dub. The series has two sequels, an OVA and a sequel series; in the original Japanese version, the OVA's two parts are titled ''Weiss Kreuz: Verbrechen'' ("crime") and ''Weiss Kreuz: Strafe'' ("punishment"), and the sequel series is ''Weiss Kreuz: Gluhen'' ("glowing" - in German, "weiss gluhen" or "weissgluhend" means "white-hot"). The series was dubbed as ''Knight Hunters,'' and although the OVA has not been licensed, ''Gluhen'' has been released in English as ''Knight Hunters: Eternity''.
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh (
** To add confusion, the original name of the anime series known outside Japan as ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' was originally titled ''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters'' in Japan, and was the semi-sequel to the unsuccessful anime ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'', produced by an entirely different company and adapting the manga from the beginning up to the Pegasus arc. That series, which never made it to English-speaking shores, is referred to as "Season 0" by Western fans.
** And then they followed ''GX'' with ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!
*** Which, in turn, is being followed up by ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!
* The second series of the ''[[Ah!
* The second series of ''[[
** [[YMMV]] here. This Troper seen nothing odd about a Japanese sequel series about relationships being given a Japanese sub-title that translates as "Relationships".
* ''[[Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch]]'' tacked on "Pure".
* The various ''[[.hack]]'' installments have suffixed names as well; ''none'' of them are exempt from this, because the first few (''tasogare no udewa densetsu, SIGN'' and the first games) ran at the same time, so there is no true "original".
* The ''[[Mai-Otome]]'' OVA sequel was named ''[[Mai-Otome Zwei]]'', the most obvious rationale for which is because "zwei" (German for two) starts with a Z, allowing the logo designers to superimpose it with the Z-like kanji (ä¹™) in the original title. An oddly named ''prequel'' has also been announced, alternatively titled ''Mai-Otome 0'', ''S.ifl'', or ''S.ifr'' ("sifr" being Arabic for zero).
** In fact, ''Mai-Otome'' itself qualifies despite not strictly being a sequel, if the original Japanese titles for ''[[
* Likewise for the manga versions of ''[[Tenchi Muyo!]]'' and ''Shin Tenchi Muyo'' (New Tenchi Muyo), released in English as "All-New" Tenchi Muyo. This is not to be confused with the ''anime'' versions, which are ''[[Tenchi Muyo! Ryo
* The first season of ''[[Ranma
* The ''[[Naruto]]'' anime after the time skip has the new name ''Naruto Shippuden'' (roughly translated: Hurricane Chronicles), even though there was no break between the original series in Japan and this one (as opposed to the manga where it was just ''Naruto: Part 2''). Was mostly likely done to notify that the 85 [[Filler]] episodes were over.
* The second half of the ''[[Sorcerer Hunters]]'' anime was initially released by [[ADV Films]] as "Spell Wars" and marketed as a separate sequel series; both halves were released as a single series on DVD.
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* The ''[[Minami-ke]]'' anime was followed by a sequel series called ''[[Minami-ke]]: Okawari'' (literally meaning "Seconds") immediately after. A third season, ''Minami-ke: Okaeri'' ("Returns"; it's what anime characters always shout when they come home) followed a year after that. Most recently, there was an OVA called ''Minami-ke: Betsubara'' ("second stomach", an idiom used for [[Big Eater|someone who can eat dessert even after a huge meal]]).
* The ''[[Appleseed]]'' movie was followed up by ''[[Appleseed Ex Machina]]''.
* ''[[
* ''[[Tokyo Mew Mew]] a la Mode'' where "a la mode" is supposedly used in the sense "with ice-cream" and refers to the signature color of the new team leader.
* The manga ''Gensoumaden [[Saiyuki]]'' became ''[[Saiyuki]] Reload'' when it switched magazines; the anime also included this distinction, as the second anime series was produced quite some time after the first one ended, and the animation and artwork styles between the two are noticeably different. The anime then took this a step further, by producing the final season as ''[[Saiyuki]] Reload GUNLOCK.'' There's also the movie ''[[Saiyuki]] Requiem'', and the OAV, ''[[Saiyuki]] Reload -burial-.''
* ''[[Sayonara, Zetsubou
** In a similar vein, ''Natsume Yuuijincho'' earned a second season with ''Zoku'' tacked on to the beginning of ''its'' name as well.
* ''[[Meine Liebe]]'' has a second season that goes by the name of ''wieder''
** "Meine Liebe wieder" just means "My love again" in German, so perhaps that's just a case of [[Gratuitous German]].
* The ''[[Pokémon (
** The original ''Pocket Monsters'' was dubbed as ''Pokémon'' for two seasons, then was subtitled with ''The Johto Journeys'', ''Johto League Champions'' and finally ''Master Quest'', one season each.
** The seasons based on ''Pocket Monsters Advanced Generation'' was subtitled ''Advanced'', ''Advanced Challenge'', ''Advanced Battle'', and ''Battle Frontier''
** The seasons based on ''Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl'' is subtitled as ''Diamond and Pearl'', ''Diamond and Pearl Battle Dimension'', ''Diamond and Pearl Galactic Battles'', and ''Diamond and Pearl Sinnoh League Victors''
** Currently, ''Pocket Monsters Best Wishes!'' is dubbed as ''Pokémon Black and White''
* ''[[Rosario
* The sequel seasons of ''
* The second season of ''[[Futari wa Pretty Cure]]'' had ''MaX Heart'' tacked onto the end of the title. Similarly, ''[[Yes! Pretty Cure 5]]'' continued with the rather punny ''[[One, Two, Three, Four, Go|Yes! Pretty Cure 5 GoGo]]''.
* ''[[Shugo Chara]]'', on the other hand, went with ''Shugo Chara Doki''. "Doki" is the Japanese word for a heartbeat sound.
** Also, ''Shugo Chara Party''
* ''[[
* ''[[
** Season 2 is ''Hell Girl: Futakomori''. This means something like "The Two Prisoners", but there's no consensus on ''which'' two are intended. They could be Ai and Kikuri, who are both used by {{spoiler|the King of Hell}}; or they could be {{spoiler|Ai's parents, whose souls are held hostage to keep Ai working}}; or they could be "the hater and the hated", a duality that's emphasized in the intro. We don't know.
** Season 3 is ''Hell Girl: Mitsuganae'', which means "Cauldron of Three". Wanyuudou explains this one for us halfway through. "Hatred, suffering, and envy: like legs of a cauldron, they say these become a support for people's hearts." (Kikuri protests, "They don't say that!")
* The second and third ''[[Lupin III]]'' TV series were released in Japan as ''New Lupin III'' and ''Lupin III: Part III''. Since the first series was never released anywhere else but Italy, when most people are talking about "Lupin III", they mean the ''second'' series. The US DVD release acknowledges that it's not the original series, even if the title cards don't.
** The ''New Lupin III'' manga was released in English as ''Lupin III: World's Most Wanted'', and was then promptly cancelled halfway through its run.
* ''[[
* Judging from the title, the Japanese name of the new reboot of ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' is ''Hagane no Renkinjutsushi: Fullmetal Alchemist''. They used the English name for the first series as a subtitle for second one. Obviously this would make no sense in English, so it was christened ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]: Brotherhood''.
** Which makes even less sense considering that the first anime [[Overtook the Manga]] and went off on its own tangent about 1/3rd of the way through, and yet carries the same name as the manga, whilst the sequel is based entirely from the manga storyline, but has a different name. Hmm...
* The second season of ''[[Himawari]]!'' was differentiated from the first season with the addition of a second exclamation point.
** As was the second season of ''[[
** And now the second season of ''[[
* ''[[Bakugan]]'' started out with the name ''Bakugan Battle Brawlers'' for two seasons, then followed it up with a third season called ''Bakugan: New Vestroia'', then a fourth season called ''Bakugan: Gundalian Invaders'' and a fifth called ''Bakugan: Mechtanium Surge''.
* In Japan, the 1985 ''[[Vampire Hunter D]]'' film was known as ''Kyuuketsuki Hunter D''. When they released a second film 15 years later, they simply titled it ''Vampire Hunter D'' in Japan. To avoid confusion, the second film was retitled ''Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust'' for its English release.
** In Japan, the 2nd film is referred to as ''Vampire Hunter D: [[The Movie]]'', as it was released theatrically. The first Vampire Hunter D was an [[OVA]].
* The ''Galaxy Angel'' sequels are named in this order: ''Z, A, AA, S, X.'' Just try making sense of that. Not that the order you watch them in [[Negative Continuity|matters the slightest]].
* After the TV series ended, ''[[
* ''[[Rebuild of Evangelion]] 1.0: You Are (
**
** At the end of the [[DVD Commentary]] for ''[[The End of Evangelion]]'', Taliesin Jaffe and Jason C. Lee joke about the (un)likelihood of ''Eva 2: Electric Boogaloo'', which now that the ''Rebuild'' films and in particular the increasingly popular "sequel theory" exist is particularly [[Hilarious in Hindsight]].
** The Director's cuts of these first three are titled ''Evangelion 1.11: You Are (Not) Alone'', ''Evangelion 2.22: You Can (Not) Advance'' and ''Evangelion 3.33: You Can (Not) Redo''.
* Although not another season, ''[[Tsubasa Chronicle]]'' had two sets of OAVs released. The first was titled ''Tsubasa TOKYO REVELATIONS'', and the second was ''Tsubasa Shunraiki''. Other than to differentiate them from the original animated series another production company had been given the rights to ''Tsubasa'' after [[CLAMP]] was displeased with [[Bee Train]]'s work on the television series.
* ''[[Super Dimension Fortress Macross]]'' was followed by ''[[Macross II]]''. That was logical enough, but since [[Canon
** ''[[Macross Frontier]]'' is also something of an in universe example. The ''New Macross Class'' long range colony fleets are numbered at least up to eleven (this is where [[Macross 7]] gets its title) but at some point after that they start naming them, hence the twenty-fifth fleet is the titular [[Macross Frontier]] Colony Fleet, rather than the Macross 25.
* The ''[[Gate Keepers]]'' sequel series is named ''[[
* The second season of ''[[Hidamari Sketch]]'' is "[[Hidamari Sketch]] x365" (pronounced "san-roku-go" or "three-six-five". The third season is "[[Hidamari Sketch]] [[Lucky Charms Title|x***]]" (pronounced "hoshimittsu" or "three stars").
* ''[[
* ''[[Sailor Moon]]'': Seasons 2 through 5 are titled ''Sailor Moon R'' (nobody can agree what this stands for the popular choices are either 'Romance' or 'Returns'), ''Sailor Moon S'' (Super), ''Sailor Moon SuperS'' (i.e.
* ''[[Vampire Knight]]'', and its second season, ''Vampire Knight Guilty''.
* The second season of [[Yuru
* ''[[Clannad (visual novel)|Clannad]]'''s second season is called ''CLANNAD
== Card Games ==▼
* ''[[Magic the Gathering]]'' publishes "Core Sets," collections which provide a foundation of basic cards for players to build off of. These Core Sets were called "Limited," "Unlimited" (which [[Non-Indicative Name|went out of print relatively quickly]]), "Revised," then switched to numbers (4th Edition - 10th Edition), and ''then'' switched to model years ('10, '11, etc). Just to add to the confusion, there is both a 10th edition and a Magic 2010 (though at least one uses the Roman numeral X as its symbol, the other a stylized "M10" icon).▼
== [[Comic Books]] ==
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* The miniseries ''Kev'' was followed by ''More Kev'', ''The Magnificent Kevin'' and, finally, ''A Man Named Kev''.
* ''[[The Dark Knight Returns]]'' was followed up years later with ''The Dark Knight Strikes <s>Back</s> Again''.
* The earliest ''[[Tintin
== [[Fan Works]] ==
* The sequel to the ''[[Pokémon]]'' fan fic ''[[Latias' Journey]]'' is called ''[[Brave New World (
==
▲* The sequel to the [[Pokémon]] fan fic ''[[Latias Journey]]'' is called ''[[Brave New World (Fanfic)|Brave New World]]''.
▲* Any [[Pokémon (Anime)|Pokémon]] movie! Except the 3rd and 4th.
* The sequel to ''[[A Goofy Movie]]'' was called ''An Extremely Goofy Movie''.
* The ''[[An American Tail]]'' sequels did this. ''An American Tail: Fievel Goes West'' wasn't such a bad title, the later direct-to-video titles became just a ''little'' too long; ''An American Tail: The Treasure of Manhattan Island'' and ''An American Tail: The Mystery of the Night Monster''.
* The ''[[Rambo]]'' series: ''First Blood'', ''Rambo: First Blood Part II'', ''Rambo III'', and ''Rambo'' ([[Market-Based Title|''John Rambo'' in some markets]]). Yes, ''in that order''. In Brazil, the second film is called ''Rambo II - A Missão''. Since then, "A Missão" ("The Mission") has become the Brazilian equivalent of "Electric Boogaloo."
* The first five ''[[Rocky (
* ''[[Alien (
** Followed by the spinoff series (and pseudo-prequels) ''[[Alien vs. Predator (
▲* The ''[[Rambo]]'' series: ''First Blood'', ''Rambo: First Blood Part II'', ''Rambo III'', and ''Rambo''. Yes, ''in that order''. In Brazil, the second film is called ''Rambo II - A Missão''. Since then, "A Missão" ("The Mission") has become the Brazilian equivalent of "Electric Boogaloo."
** On the other side of the crossover: ''[[Predator]]'', ''Predator 2'', ''[[
▲* The first five ''[[Rocky (Film)|Rocky]]'' sequels are numbered. The sixth is simply titled ''Rocky Balboa''.
▲* ''[[Alien (Film)|Alien]]'', ''Aliens'', ''Alien<sup>3</sup>''<ref>Yes, "Alien to the third power", NOT "Alien 3"</ref>, and ''Alien Resurrection''.
▲** Followed by the spinoff series (and pseudo-prequels) ''[[Alien vs. Predator (Film)|Alien vs. Predator]]'' and ''Alien'''''s''' ''Vs. Predator 2''.
▲** On the other side of the crossover: ''[[Predator]]'', ''Predator 2'', ''[[Predators (Film)|Predators]]''.
* ''The [[Terminator]]'' was followed by rather plain ''Terminator 2: Judgment Day'' and ''Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines''. The fourth drops the numbers entirely (''Terminator Salvation'').
* For ''[[
** On the early theatrical prints, the second movie's opening title said simply "Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan", presumably to help people forget the first film. The "II" was added later in the theatrical run (though the film was promoted as "Star Trek II" from fairly early on).
** The ''Next Gen'' films don't continue the numbering to differentiate between their films and the original cast (and also, one suspects, because the numbering was getting a bit high). However, the most recent DVD releases insert the numerals VII through X into the titles.
* This has been taken to the point of absurdity by the movie franchise ''[[The Fast and
* In order, ''[[
** The fifth movie is currently titled ''A Good Day to Die Hard''.
** The French version of these series inverted this trope by first giving an entirely different title to each episode -- ''Piège de cristal'',<ref>Crystal Trap</ref>
* The ''[[American Pie]]'' films: ''American Pie'', ''American Pie 2'' ... then ''American Wedding''.
** Although the British/Irish release was called ''American Pie: The Wedding''.
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** And now going back to the original cast with ''American Reunion''.
* ''Dominion: Prequel to [[The Exorcist]]'', probably the only movie in history to have a declarative statement in the title informing you that it's a sequel/prequel to another film.
** The sequels themselves fit: ''[[The Exorcist]]'' was followed by ''Exorcist II: The Heretic'' and ''The Exorcist III'', then got prequels in both ''Exorcist: The Beginning'' (done by Renny Harlin after [[Paul Schrader]]'s film was relegated to [[The Shelf of Movie Languishment]]) and ''Dominion'' (Schrader's film).
* The ''[[X-Men (
** Then there's prequels: ''[[X
* After two numbered sequels, the fourth ''[[Final Destination]]'' movie - in somewhat of a similar vein to what happened to ''The Fast And The Furious'' series is called '''''The''' Final Destination''. And yes, it's not a [[
* The ''[[Harry Palmer]]'' films used the title of [[Len Deighton]]'s novels, then original names for the 1990s sequels. Oddly, sometimes those 1990s sequels appear as "Len Deighton's" even though they did not adapt any of his novels, and Len Deighton did not even coin the name Harry Palmer.
* The original ''[[Pink Panther]]'' films never used numbers. The first three films all had completely separate titles (''The Pink Panther'', ''A Shot in the Dark'' and ''Inspector Clouseau''). Then the fourth film (''Return of the Pink Panther'') reintroduced the Pink Panther diamond, and after that all the sequels worked the phrase "Pink Panther" into their titles even when the actual Pink Panther diamond didn't figure in their plots. Then the [[Continuity Reboot]] with Steve Martin started numbering its sequels, with no subtitle. Keeping all nine films in order can be tricky.
* Oh dear God, the ''[[
* ''[[The Mummy 1999]]'' was followed by ''[[The Mummy Returns]]'' and then ''[[The Mummy Tomb Of The Dragon Emperor]]''.
** ''[[The Mummy Returns]]'' spawned a prequel: ''[[The Scorpion King]]'', which in turn spawned a prequel of its own (and soon yet another [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1781896/ sequel]).
* The full title of the first ''[[
** Subsequent to the release of ''Naked Gun 33⅓: The Final Insult'', long before speculation of a continuation gave way to the concept of the inevitable reboot, the unmade fourth installment was tentatively titled "Naked Gun 5."
** Also bandied about - "Naked Gun 4 Score: And 3 Sequels Ago". Now sadly impossible due to [[Leslie Nielsen]]'s death.
* ''[[Hot Shots]]'' was followed by ''Hot Shots, [[Gratuitous French|Part Deux]]''. Note that the announcer in the trailers specifically pronounced that "Deux" the way many English speakers trying to speak French would: "Duh".
* ''[[
** And then there are the Italian [[Dolled-Up Installment|Dolled Up Installments]], ''[[Zombi 2]]''/''Zombie Flesh Eaters'' and sequels.
** George A. Romero at least started to follow a form. Night. Dawn. Day. Then he came with... ''[[
* Upon its release in 1977, ''[[Star Wars]]'' was called simply that. Its first sequel was titled ''Episode '''V''': [[The Empire Strikes Back]]'', and a re-release (in 1981) of the original retroactively added the subtitle ''Episode IV: [[A New Hope]]''. This was all decades before Lucas got around to making the [[Prequel]] Trilogy. (Note that none of these movies were referred to by episode number anywhere but the opening crawl until the prequels came out.)
** This always leads into [[Title Confusion]] when trying to mention one of the movies not by subtitle or number. For example, the "first [[Star Wars]] movie" is either Episode I or Episode IV.
* [[Hammer Horror]] is the patron saint of this trope. Their ''[[Horror of Dracula]]'' begat ''[[
** These, of course, were following in the footsteps of the older [[Universal Horror]] (''[[
* When Christopher Nolan gave the Batman films a [[Continuity Reboot]] with ''[[Batman Begins]]'', the film's title appeared to be following the format set by the earlier Burton/Schumacher series (''[[Batman (
* The ''[[
** To be fair, ''The Man Of Steel'' is meant to be a [[Continuity Reboot]] with no connection to the original series.
* The sequel to ''[[
* The sequel to ''[[Airplane!]]'' was the aptly titled ''[[Airplane!]] II: The Sequel''.
* The "Thin Man" referred to in the title of the [[Dashiell Hammett]] novel and William Powell-Myrna Loy screwball comedy-mystery film ''[[The Thin Man (
* Apparently, deciding to make a sequel to ''[[
* This happened to [[Jackie Chan]] films in the USA a ''lot'', because they were originally released only on home video here, where they were underground cult favorites, but not part of mainstream culture. Then his film ''[[Rumble in The Bronx]]'' was released theatrically and became a hit, so many of his earlier films got re-released on video or finally given a theatrical release. However, several of his films were part of long-running series, the earlier films typically had cheap sets and special effects, were shot on poor-quality film stock, and/or were not originally written with worldwide release in mind, and so the studios and distributors didn't think [[Eagle Land|American]] audiences would [[Viewers are Morons|understand the Chinese cultural concepts]]. So the later films in those series, which had better production values and more [[Lowest Common Denominator|universal appeal]], got theatrical releases under new titles, with the earlier films re-released on home video... retitled as if they were follow-on sequels to the later films that got theatrically-released first here in the states.
** ''Armor of God 2: Operation Condor'' was released theatrically in the US first, so it was re-titled ''Operation Condor''. When that did well, the earlier film in the series was retitled from ''Armor of God'' to ''Operation Condor 2: The Armor of the Gods''.
** ''Police Story 3: Supercop'' was similarly released theatrically as simply ''Supercop'', leading to the several other films in the series being re-titled "Supercop 2" through ''Supercop 5'' for home video releases.
** ''Drunken Master 2'' was retitled ''Legend of the Drunken Master'' when released in the US. You could be forgiven for thinking there wasn't a ''Drunken Master 1'', given that nobody these days really associates Jackie Chan with his earliest fare.
* ''[[Alvin and the
* The [[Godzilla]] series has a fairly consistent ''Godzilla vs. Whatever'' or ''Whatever vs. Godzilla'' formula, but strange titles pop up from time to time. In Japan, there are two films called ''Godzilla'', one of which is the original and the other of which is its direct sequel that erases the movies that came in between. Also, some of the later movies replaced the "vs." in the titles with an "X" for no apparent reason.
** Before they settled on the "Vs." format, though, the filmmakers got somewhat... creative... with the titles. The fifth film, ''Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster'' dropped Godzilla from the title entirely, and the international titles for 3 of the next 4 films didn't reference Godzilla at all (Son of Godzilla, the 8th film, being the exception).
* Surprisingly averted for almost the entire run of the ''[[Saw]]'' series, which were simply consistently numbered with successive roman numerals and no subtitles. This lasted until the seventh film, which instead of being ''Saw VII'' is ''Saw 3D''. The DVD release has renamed it ''Saw: The Final Chapter''.
* [[Michael Bay]] said ''[[Transformers (
* ''[[Mission: Impossible (
* The sequel to ''[[Piranha 3D]]'' will apparently be titled ''Piranha 3DD''.
* ''[[A Very Brady Sequel]]''
* ''Almost'' played straight with ''[[
* The 2011 prequel to the 1982 John Carpenter's ''[[The Thing (
* Gradually happened with ''[[Leprechaun (
* ''Camp Blood, Camp Blood 2'' and... ''Within the Woods''.
* Parodied in an early opening of ''[[Gremlins 2 The New Batch]]'', in which [[Daffy Duck]] attempts to rename the film "[[Long Title|The Return of Super-Daffy Meets Gremlins 2 Part 6: The Movie]]".
* [[Home Alone|Home Alone 2: Lost In New York]]
* From [[Bollywood]], we have the ''Krrish'' franchise, formed by the following films, in order of release: ''Koi... Mil Gaya'', ''Krrish'' and ''Krrish 3''. During the promotion of the latter film, the franchise star [[Hrithik Roshan]] confessed they followed the ''Rambo'' example above when deciding on the title.
* The ''[[Jurassic Park]]'' franchise titling isn't particularly cohesive. The first sequel was ''[[The Lost World Jurassic Park]]'', followed by ''[[Jurassic Park III]]'', and then by ''Jurassic World''. The fifth film's title makes it clear it's related to its immediate predecessor: ''Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom''.
== [[Literature]] ==▼
* [[Terry Pratchett]]'s second book, ''The Light Fantastic'', was originally subtitled "The Sequel to ''The Colour of Magic''" in its UK print. As Pratchett became more prolific, it was changed to "A Sequel to ''The Colour of Magic''" and, later, "A [[
** For a while, they were all subtitled as "The nth [[
* Similar to the Discworld example, the [[Dresden Files]] books were labelled "Book n of the Dresden Files" for about the first six books. Since ''Dead Beat'', the seventh installment, they've been "A novel of the Dresden Files".▼
* ''[[
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* Even numbered books in the ''[[
* While the [[Ciem Webcomic Series]] consisted of one comic with [[Numbered Sequels]] planned, the [[Continuity Reboot]] book ''Ciem: Vigilante Centipede'' plans to have sequels dubbed ''Nuclear Crisis'' and ''Condemnation'', which will have similar plots to the canceled ''Ciem 2'' and ''Ciem 3''. It's prequel will still be dubbed ''The Battle for Gerosha''.▼
== [[Live
* While some teams returning to ''[[Robot Wars (TV series)|Robot Wars]]'' give their robot a [[Numbered Sequels|numbered sequel]] name (Chaos 2, for example, which was [[Adaptation Distillation|much more successful]] than Chaos) others use an
* Each season of ''[[Babylon
** The season titles were also the titles of the most significant episodes in that season, which did appear on screen. (Thus Season I was named ''Signs and Portents'' after the episode that introduced Morden and really kicked off the [[Myth Arc]], and so on.)
* ''[[Ashes to Ashes]]'' is a sequel series to ''[[Life On Mars]]'' set in London, eight years later. Both are [[David Bowie]] song titles. The ironic thing is that the song "Ashes to Ashes" is a sequel to the song "Space Oddity," which is not the name of a TV show. Yet.
* The British musical comedy/drama series ''[[Blackpool]]'' had a two-part sequel, ''Viva Blackpool''. The original ''Blackpool'' series was called ''Viva Blackpool'' for US distribution.
* ''Grace and Favour'', the short-lived sequel series to ''[[Are You Being Served?
** Well, it would still have been as short-lived, but you may be right in the sense that it may have been more popular. Billy Burden (Mr. Moulterd) died just after the series ended.
* ''[[
* ''[[Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]]'' was followed by ''[[Power Rangers
* Parodied by
▲== Literature ==
▲* [[Terry Pratchett]]'s second book, ''The Light Fantastic'', was originally subtitled "The Sequel to ''The Colour of Magic''" in its UK print. As Pratchett became more prolific, it was changed to "A Sequel to ''The Colour of Magic''" and, later, "A [[Discworld (Literature)|Discworld]] Novel."
▲** For a while, they were all subtitled as "The nth [[Discworld (Literature)|Discworld]] Novel" until the numbers [[Long Runner|got ridiculous]] and "A [[Discworld (Literature)|Discworld]] Novel" was born.
▲* Similar to the Discworld example, the [[Dresden Files]] books were labelled "Book n of the Dresden Files" for about the first six books. Since ''Dead Beat'', the seventh installment, they've been "A novel of the Dresden Files".
▲* ''[[American Gods (Literature)|American Gods]]'' has a sequel named ''[[Anansi Boys (Literature)|Anansi Boys]]''. Narrator in ''[[Anansi Boys (Literature)|Anansi Boys]]'' has a fun with this trope at one point.
▲{{quote| '''Narrator:''' Nothing was happening. Still nothing was happening. Another Nothing. The Return Of Nothing. Son Of Nothing. Nothing Strikes Back. Nothing, [[Abbott and Costello]] Meets The Werewolf.}}
▲* Even numbered books in the ''[[Honor Harrington (Literature)|Honor Harrington]]'' series all have "Honor" in the title.
▲* While the [[Ciem Webcomic Series]] consisted of one comic with [[Numbered Sequels]] planned, the [[Continuity Reboot]] book ''Ciem: Vigilante Centipede'' plans to have sequels dubbed ''Nuclear Crisis'' and ''Condemnation'', which will have similar plots to the canceled ''Ciem 2'' and ''Ciem 3''. It's prequel will still be dubbed ''The Battle for Gerosha''.
== [[Music]] ==
* [[Five Iron Frenzy]] named one album ''Five Iron Frenzy 2: Electric Boogaloo'' after this trope. It was their ''fourth'' full-length studio album, and the only one to be self-titled.
* The first three LPs released by Led Zeppelin were called simply ''Led Zeppelin'', ''Led Zeppelin II'' and ''Led Zeppelin III''. Their fourth album, which has no title aside from a sequence of unpronounceable symbols, is informally referred to as ''Led Zeppelin IV'' in keeping with this pattern.
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** Their second album, ''You Could Have It So Much Better'', was originally going to be called ''You Could Have It So Much Better...with Franz Ferdinand,'' which is [[What Could Have Been|a much better title]].
** Similarly, [[Weezer]] currently has three (out of six) self-titled albums. They're identified by the colors of the cover: blue, green, and red.
** That's most likely a reference to [[The Beatles (band)|The White Album]].
* [[Peter Gabriel]]'s first four solo albums were all named ''Peter Gabriel''. To avoid insanity, they've since been given nicknames based on their covers: ''Car'', ''Scratch'', ''Melt'', and ''Security''.
** Gabriel said he wanted each cover to look like the next issue of a magazine (thus the identical [[Useful Notes/Fonts|typeface]]/layout on those four LPs). His American label regarded this as a marketing nightmare. As a minor concession, Gabriel agreed to allow a sticker reading "Security" to appear on the shrinkwrap of the fourth: a disposable title. The label then unilaterally decided to put the "title" on the spine, the record's label, etc. (Some reissues have conformed with the artist's original intentions.) BTW how would the title "''Security''" correspond to the cover art (a video capture of...[[True Art Is Incomprehensible|something]])?
* [[Fleetwood Mac]] released ''two'' self-titled albums - one during the years when Peter Green was the frontman, and another during their decidedly more successful Buckingham-Nicks years.
* The Soviettes subvert the usual practice of bands naming their albums with actual titles, and made LP I, LP II and LP III.
** Portending at least a six-album career, these Minnesotans strove to create a "rainbow" of album art. LP I sported a red scheme, LP II featured orange, and LP III was yellow. Theoretically, [[
* [[Seal]]'s first two albums were self-titled.
** His third self-titled album (but fourth album) is called ''Seal IV''.
*** He's being administered to Heidi Klum intravenously to help keep her weight down.
* The supergroup Traveling Wilburys first album was called simply ''Volume One''; their second and final album was named, of course, ''Volume Three''.
** ''Volume One'' was given this name for deliberately ironic reasons; i.e., the unlikelihood of there ever being a ''Volume Two''. Of course, when a new album was in the works, that would have ruined the joke, so they had to give it an equally ironic title.
** ''[[Zooey Deschanel|She & Him]]'' titled their first album ''Volume One'' in tribute to Traveling Wilburys. However, in their distinctly non-ironic style, they decided to call the next album ''Volume Two''.
* [[They Might Be Giants]]' self-titled debut album has been nicknamed "The Pink Album" because of its cover art. And as a Beatles reference.
* [[Coheed and Cambria]]'s entire discography thus far is full of this. In order: ''The Second Stage Turbine Blade'', ''In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3'', ''Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV, Vol. 1: From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness'' and ''Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV, Vol. 2: No World for Tomorrow''. While there are at least chronological numbers in there, note that they ''started'' with 2.
** That's kinda the point; number 1 is a prequel album that is (supposedly) going to explain some of the backstory.
** The aforementioned prequel album is titled ''Year of the Black Rainbow'', making it the first in the continuity without a number in its name. However, the first track is simply called "One".
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* [[Killswitch Engage]]'s second self-titled release was known among fans as ''Killswitch Engage II'' even while the title was just rumored.
* [[Metallica]]'s 1996 album ''Load'' was followed the next year with ''ReLoad''.
* Minus the Bear's first album, ''Highly Refined Pirates'', contains a song called "Get Me Naked 2: Electric Boogaloo" - the supposed sequel to the song "Hey Wanna Throw Up? Get Me Naked" which appeared on their first EP called ''This is What I Know About Being Gigantic''. Remaining true to the form of this trope, the "sequel" is not related to the original at all, and neither song has any correlation to its title.
* The Beastie Boys latest album is called "Hot Sauce Committee Part 2". There is no "Part One", though there was supposed to be. Supposedly the boys were busy making "Part One" when MCA was diagnosed with cancer, thus the album was delayed. Part 2 was released because the boys said they were going to release it on a certain date, so it kind of makes "Part One" a case of "The Missing Floppies".
* Also boasting two self-titled albums is the band Rancid. The first was released in 1993, the second in 2000.
== [[Professional Wrestling]] ==▼
▲== Professional Wrestling ==
* In 1985, the World Wrestling Federation held a pay-per-view called [[Wrestlemania]]. Since then, they've bounced back and forth in number conventions for each year's edition of the show. Each show name, in order:
** WWF [[Wrestlemania]]
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* When WCW ran a motorcycle-themed pay-per-view in 1997 called Hog Wild, they ran afoul of a Harley Davidson group which owned that name. All subsequent editions of the show were called Road Wild.
== [[Tabletop Games]] ==▼
* Due to a disagreement between the game's two creators, ''[[Dungeons
▲== Tabletop Games ==
▲* Due to a disagreement between the game's two creators, ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'' was split into two games, a stripped-down version also called Dungeons & Dragons, and an expanded version called Advanced Dungeons & Dragons. This was later revised into Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd Edition, while the second Dungeons & Dragons was still being published in parallel. Then the publisher folded and the rights were bought by Wizards of the Coast, who unified the two lines as Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition. So is this the 3rd edition of Dungeons & Dragons, which incorporated a bunch of concepts from Advanced Dungeons & Dragons? Or is it the 3rd edition of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, making it the 4th edition in order (since the original AD&D was a sequel to the original D&D, with the second version of D&D as a [[Gaiden Game]]).
** Then they followed 3rd Edition with a minor rewrite called Dungeons & Dragons 3.5, which was not so much "confusing" as "stupid" naming.
** The current edition has returned to whole numbers, with a very revised rules system released as the 4th Edition. Meanwhile, former publishing partner Paizo has taken the style of D&D's 3rd Edition and 3.5 rules and slightly revised it into a system they call Pathfinder; the deliberate similarities have earned Pathfinder the nickname "D&D 3.75", especially among players who disdain the alterations made for 4th Edition D&D.
* Rolemaster was followed by Rolemaster Standard System, which split the fandom to the point that the publisher re-released the original as Rolemaster Classic, at the same time renaming the Standard System to Rolemaster Fantasy Roleplaying. They also released a stripped-down set of light rules as Rolemaster Express, after creating a completely different and incompatible stripped-down, simplified game as HARP.
* ''[[Paranoia]]'' has had (in order) 1st edition, 2nd edition, 5th edition ([[Canon
** In the interest of fairness, 5th edition was an intentional spoof of this very trope.
* The editions of ''[[Traveller]]'' are, in direct line: Traveller, MegaTraveller, Traveller: The New Era, Marc Millar's Traveller, Traveller, Traveller 5. Note that Traveller 5 is the 6th. A completely unrelated science fiction game from the same company was released as Traveller: 2300 - it's actually a sequel to Twilight: 2000. This also doesn't count the ports of the setting to generic rules systems: GURPS Traveller, Traveller 20 and Traveller HERO.
▲* ''[[Magic:
* The ''[[Battlefield (series)|Battlefield]]'' series goes as thus: ''Battlefield 1942'', ''Battlefield: Vietnam'', ''[[Battlefield 2]]'' (which was spun off onto consoles as ''Battlefield 2: Modern Combat''), ''Battlefield 2142'', ''Battlefield: Bad Company'', ''Battlefield Heroes'', ''Battlefield 1943'', ''Battlefield: Bad Company 2'' (which now has an [[Expansion Pack]] titled ''Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam''), and ''[[Battlefield 3]]''. The numbers don't indicate proper order at all, and there's bound to be a lot of confusion over the two games set in [[The Vietnam War]] now.
**
* ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'':
** ''[[Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
** ''[[Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days
** Not that the series hadn't gotten itself into trouble with numbers before. Due to the fact that ''[[Chain of Memories]]'' is ''not'' a [[Gaiden Game]] (it's a continuation of the plot, just with a different battle system), ''[[
** ''Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance'' takes place after Kingdom Hearts II. That it has a "3" in the title helps, but it most certainly isn't the 3rd entry in the franchise.
** ''Kingdom Hearts χ'' may, to the untrained eye, appear to be the 10th game in the franchise, but the χ is actually the Greek character "Chi", and the game is actually a prequel to the main franchise.
** I'm sure that the title of ''Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue'' was designed to be helpful (it takes place after ''Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix'' but before ''[[Kingdom Hearts III]]'') but is still confusing to the average customer.
* ''[[Halo|Halo 3:ODST]]'' actually takes place concurrent with ''Halo 2'' and has next-to-nothing to do with ''Halo 3'', but because it was built on the ''Halo 3'' engine it got ''Halo 3'''s number.
* The ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' series does this for each [[Alternate Continuity]]; ''Super Robot Wars F'', ''Super Robot Wars Alpha'', and ''Super Robot Wars: Original Generation'' are among the variations.
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** Also,"Harvest Moon ''DS'' Cute".
*** Because as you know, Cute = girl.
* The ''[[Duke Nukem]]'' series: not counting spinoffs, ''Duke Nukem, Duke Nukem II, [[
** A little historical background: the first two ''DN'' games were [[Platform Game|2D platformers]] and the third one gaining an extra dimension was part of the general [[Video Game 3D Leap|transition of games into 3D]] in the [[The Nineties|late 1990s]]. For whatever reason, said transition [[Third Is 3D|often happened in the third installment of a given series and the many devs slapped the word "3D" onto its title]] (geddit?). It started all the way back with ''[[
* ''[[No One Lives Forever]]'': the original game was titled ''The Operative in No One Lives Forever'' however for the sequel they turned the original subtitle into the main title, resulting in ''No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.'s Way''.
** Let's not even mention the terrible [[Interquel|sequel/prequel]] known simply as ''Contract J.A.C.K.''
* ''[[Metal Gear]]'' and ''[[Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake]]'' were followed by ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]''. The word "Solid" was appended to the third title as a substitute for the number "3" to signify that it was not only the third game in the series, but also the first one in 3D. All the subsequent sequels kept the ''Metal Gear Solid'' title and appended numbers to the title, with subtitles for good measure: ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]], [[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]], [[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]], [[Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker]]...'' Then there's also the ''[[Metal Gear Acid]]'' offshoot.
* ''[[Marathon
* ''[[Banjo
* ''[[Panzer Dragoon]]'' was followed by ''Panzer Dragoon [[Department of Redundancy Department|II Zwei]]'', ''Panzer Dragoon Mini'', ''Panzer Dragoon Saga'', and ''Panzer Dragoon Orta''.
** To be fair, "Zwei" is German for "two"; in certain rolls of ''Orta'''s ending credits, the game is referred to as "Panzer Dragoon Vier", "vier" being German for "four".
* The sequel to ''[[
* In ''[[World of Warcraft]]'', after doing the quest "Here Fishy Fishy", you get a followup involving an eel egg booby trapped with explosives. The quest name? Why, "Here Fishy Fishy 2: Eel-egg-trick Boogaloo," of course.
** Also, [[It Makes Sense in Context|there is a quest to use an explosive eel egg to save a surprisingly buoyant Dwarf from certain death]]. The quest is named The Brothers Digsong 2: Eel-Egg-Trick Boogaloo. There is no Brothers Digsong 1.
* While the standard ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' games are regularly named, its side-game names are getting progressively weirder.
** The problem developed when they started making sequels when [[Non-Linear Sequel|they hadn't before]]. The trend started with ''[[Final Fantasy X
*** This happened again with ''[[Final Fantasy XIII-2]]'', the first sequel to ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]''. You would think that the final entry in the trilogy would then be Final Fantasy XIII-3, but no, it is of course ''[[Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII]]''.
** ''[[Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles]]: Ring of Fates/My Life as a King/The Crystal Bearers''. Too many subtitles.
** The worst offender is, without a doubt, ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics
** Though ''[[
** Also ''[[
** ''[[
*** The first ''Dissidia'' is ''Dissidia 13''; that is, in ''Dissidia'', the war between Cosmos and Chaos is an endlessly repeating cycle, with the original ''Dissidia'' chronicling the thirteenth repetition of said cycle. ''Duodecim'' is a prequel covering the twelfth repetition. [[Sarcasm Mode|Which is not confusing at all]].
* ''[[Super Smash Bros
** The Japanese naming conventions are even weirder. ''Nintendo All-Star: Dairantou Smash Brothers'' [sic], ''Dairantou Smash Bros. DX'' (DX is short for "Deluxe"), and ''Dairantou Smash Bros. X''. All words in English in the title are actually that way, by the way. "Dairantou" roughly translates to "Melee" or "Brawl."
* ''[[
** ''[[Bubble Bobble
* In North America, the sequel to ''[[
** It didn't help that the Japan-only [[Updated Rerelease]] of the original game was titled ''Shiritsu Justice Gakuen: Nekketsu Seisyun Nikki 2''. The number was for the updated character creation mode (the ''Nekketsu Seisyun Nikki'' part of the title) included in the game, but the number's inclusion caused everyone outside of Japan to mistake it for a sequel.
* In the ''[[Tales
** (Add the fact that ''Symphonia'' is a [[Prequel]] to ''Phantasia'' and we start entering [[Mind Screw]] territory.)
** Another interesting issue is that there is a [[
* Despite five entries (split in 19 games) in the main series, there has never been a ''[[Pokémon]]'' 2, let alone 3, 4 or 5, despite the fact that the second generation was indeed a direct sequel to the first one, and that the Sinnoh games (Generation IV) were a semisequel to Generation II. Every game after the first generation (whose games were named after colors) is merely titled "Pokémon" plus a precious material (gold, silver, crystal, ruby, sapphire, emerald, diamond, pearl and platinum) for subtitle. Since Pokemon games come in pairs (and by the end of the generation they end up being a trio), non-hard-core fans might have a hard time when trying to figure out which versions are paired with each other and distinguish the generations. Generation V switching back to colors (Black and White) sort of made things easier, but still is a non-indicative name (and after three generations of metal/jewel based titles, it becomes itself an odd theme). For those wondering, terms like the "second generation" or "Generation V" are only [[Fan Nickname
** Among the spinoffs, the original ''[[
** Within the series' context, the main series titles have their own Oddly Named Sequels in the form of ''[[Numbered Sequels|Black 2 & White 2]]''.
* All three ''[[
* ''[[Ace Attorney]]'' has this. While the Japanese sequels are ''Gyakuten Saiban 2-4'' and ''Gyakuten Kenji'' for the spinoff, they were translated as ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney'', ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice for All'', ''Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations'', ''Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney'', and ''Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth''. [[Colon Cancer|We may need an oncologist in here.]]
** Probably has to do with the fact that the localization staff chose the title for the first game before learning that the fourth game would have a new protagonist. Thus, the ''Ace Attorney'' part was promoted as the main title for the rest of the series, while ''Phoenix Wright'' was demoted to a subtitle in the sequels.
* No less a video game personnage than [[Mario]] has been responsible for this, multiple times. First, the sequel to ''[[Mario Bros
** The initial ''Super Mario Bros.'' series is numbered sanely only in the Western markets: the game released in the West as ''[[Super Mario Bros
*** And then there are the remakes for the GBA. Super Mario Bros. 2 became Super Mario Advance. The worst offender is the GBA remake of Super Mario Bros. 3, titled "Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros 3".
* ''[[Resident Evil Code: Veronica]]'' was intended to be the true sequel to ''[[Resident Evil 2]]'', but since the game was originally being developed on the [[Dreamcast]] instead of the [[
** Another oddity is that the logo of ''[[Resident Evil 4]]'' actually gives the number first, making it technically "4 Resident Evil."
* The game series now known as ''[[Legacy of Kain]]'' started with the game ''Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain'' with the weighting making it apparent the 'Legacy of Kain' part was a subtitle. A few years later the next game came out called ''Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver'' (blood no longer being much of a big deal to the wraithlike new hero Raziel). It was followed by ''Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2''...but then came ''Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2'', which thoroughly confused everyone. The 2 sub-series finally converged in the final game, ''Legacy of Kain: Defiance''- to everyone's great relief.
* The numerous ''[[Street Fighter]]'' installments by Capcom with their various adjectives, suffixes, and subtitles can be a bit confusing to first-time fans of the series. This is because [[Capcom]] considers every Roman numbered entry in the franchise after the [[Street Fighter (
** ''[[
** ''[[
** The ''[[
** ''[[
** ''[[
* In Japan, the ''[[Saturday Night Slam Masters
* ''[[The Legend of Zelda]]'' series only had one numbered sequel: ''[[Zelda II:
* ''[[Samurai Shodown]]: Warriors Rage'' for the [[
* The European/Japanese-only sequel to ''Trace Memory'' (''Another Code'' in those regions) was titled ''Another Code R: A Journey Into Lost Memories'' (''Gateway of Memory'' in Japan.)
* Due to legal issues, the PlayStation version of ''[[Soul Series|Soul Edge]]'' was renamed ''Soul Blade'' in America and Europe. To sidestep this legal hurdle, the sequels were released under the ''SoulCalibur'' name instead. Thus ''SoulCalibur IV'' is actually the '''fifth''' game in the series.
* The sequel to ''[[Battle Clash]]'' is titled ''Metal Combat: Falcon's Revenge''. The only indicator on the title that ''Metal Combat'' is a sequel is the fact that the hero's mecha in both games is called the "ST Falcon".
* ''[[
* ''[[Wolfenstein (
** Not to be confused with ''[[
*** Which were inspired by the original ''[[Castle Wolfenstein]]'' and ''[[Beyond Castle Wolfenstein]]''.
* Capcom's first ''[[
* The ''[[Anno Domini]]'' series of historical city builders (known as ''A.D.'' in some markets) goes back and forth between the centuries. First there was ''Anno 1602'', followed by ''Anno 1503'', then ''Anno 1701'', ''Anno 1404'' and finally ''Anno 2070''. Even odder since the numeration could lead a newbie to think ''1701'' is the first, with the series going backwards 99 years with each installment.
** In addition to all this in some markets the latest installment ''Anno 1404'' is sold as ''Dawn of Discovery''. This in turn has an expansion pack which is known as both ''Anno 1404: Venice'' and ''Dawn of Discovery: Venice''.
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* ''Shinobi III'' may sound like a sensible name for a sequel, until you realize it's not literally the third game in the [[Shinobi]] series at all. Although, it is the third Shinobi game for the [[Sega Genesis]], the first two Genesis games were already sequels to previous Shinobi games. The first Genesis game, ''The Revenge of Shinobi'', is a sequel to the [[Master System]] version of the first ''Shinobi'', which itself was based on an arcade game, while ''Shadow Dancer: The Secret of Shinobi'', the second Genesis game, was itself a loose sequel to the arcade's ''Shadow Dancer'', which was the arcade sequel to ''Shinobi''. That's not even counting ''The Cyber Shinobi: Shinobi Part 2'', the European-exclusive Master System sequel to the first ''Shinobi''. So which game could be considered the "true Shinobi II"? The game system of ''Shinobi III'' is clearly based on ''The Revenge of Shinobi'' and the Japanese versions of both games makes their relation a lot less ambiguous, since they're titled ''The Super Shinobi'' and ''The Super Shinobi II''.
* Tradewest's fighting game based on the ''[[Double Dragon]]'' cartoon was titled ''Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls'', which was released for the SNES and Genesis (as well as the Jaguar), even though it had nothing to do with the previous Technos-developed games and there was no "Double Dragon IV". While technically there was a fourth ''Double Dragon'' game, it was an SNES-exclusive installment titled ''Super Double Dragon'', meaning that the owners of the other consoles would've not been aware of it.
* The second ''[[Tetris the Grand Master]]'' game's name is a source of minor confusion; fans have a hard time decising whether it's ''Tetris: The Grand Master 2 - The Absolute'' or ''Tetris: The Absolute - The Grand Master 2''. Then there's ''Tetris: The Grand Master 3 - [[Word Salad Title|Terror-Instinct]]'', ''Tetris: The Grand Master ACE'' (a spinoff of TGM), and ''Tetris: The Grand Master 4 - [[Engrish|The Masters of Round]]'' (technically the fifth game in the series).
* ''[[DJMAX]] Portable'', ''[[Numbered Sequels|DJMAX Portable 2]]'', ''[[Licensed Game|DJMAX Portable Clazziquai Edition]]'', ''DJMAX Portable Black Square'', and the [[No Export for You|US-only]] ''DJMAX <s>Portable</s> Fever''.
* The sequel to ''[[Galaga]]'' was called ''Gaplus'', then was rereleased under the name ''[[Market-Based Title|Galaga 3]]''. There is no ''Galaga 2''.
** And then, of course, ''Galaga '88''. Does the absence of intervening numbers need to be brought up again?
* The virtually unknown [[Real Time Strategy]] ''Earth 2140'' has a much more successful sequel named ''[[Earth 2150]]'' (or ''Earth 2150: Escape from the Blue Planet''), which itself has 2 stand-alone [[Expansion Pack
* ''[[Mushihime-sama]]'''s sequel is called ''Mushihime-sama Futari''. "Futari" means "''two'' people."
* The "Divinity" series gets to be oddly named from the very beginning, but the sequels make their own kind of nonsense. In order: ''[[Divine Divinity]]'', ''Beyond Divinity'', and third: ''[[Divinity 2|Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga]]'' (which is itself made up of Divinity 2: Ego Draconis and Divinity 2: Flames of Vengeance. Divine Divinity was meant to be Divinity: Sword of Lies, and Beyond Divinity was a spinoff; Ego Draconis was the original Divinity 2 game, which was rereleased as The Dragon Knight Saga as a bundle or as just the expansion, Flames of Vengeance.
* ''[[Deception|Tecmo's Deception]]'' was followed by ''Kagero: Deception II'' and ''Deception III: Dark Delusion''. Okay, at least they're numbered. Then Tecmo calls the fourth game... ''Trapt''? Wha..?
* The ''[[
* ''[[Parasite Eve]]'' gets a normal numbering for its first sequel, but the next game is named ''The 3rd Birthday''. Not ''Parasite Eve: The 3rd Birthday''. Just... ''The 3rd Birthday''.
** According to the developers, this is due to it being set in the same universe, but having few connections to the previous games besides the main character.
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* ''[[Love Plus]]'' then Love Plus+ and now for the 3DS Project Love Plus.
* In Japan, the third game of the ''[[Strikers 1945]]'' series is called ''Strikers 1999'' to reference the [[Setting Update]]. Everywhere else, it's called ''Strikers 1945 III''.
* ''[[
** [[Wonder Boy (
** The second entry in the series was ''Wonder Boy: Monster Land'' for the arcade, which was ported to the [[Master System]] in Japan under the name of ''Super Wonder Boy: Monster World'' and that particular version was released in the west as ''[[
** The third and last of the arcade releases was titled ''[[Wonder Boy III
** The fourth entry is when things start to get confusing. The game was released for the Master System in the west as ''[[
** The next entry was ''Wonder Boy V: Monster World III'' for the [[Mega Drive]] (simply titled ''[[
** ''[[
* The ''[[Call of Duty]]'' franchise is actually handed back and forth between two developers, after the fourth installment the sequels changed as each went in their separate directions. ''Call of Duty 4: [[Modern Warfare]]'' begat ''Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2'' (the [[Call of Duty]] was largely omitted from advertising) which begat ''Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3''. ''Call of Duty: World At War'' followed ''4'', then ''Call of Duty: Black Ops'', and a rumored ''Call of Duty: Black Ops 2''.
* Upon the success of ''[[Command
** The name ''Tiberian Dawn'' had been used by Westwood in pre-release materials, and even appeared in the readme.txt file, but didn't appear anywhere in the original game or its packaging, so didn't see widespread use among fans until it became necessary to differentiate the first game from the series as a whole.
** To be fair, that sorta thing happens in real life, such as World War One would never have been know as such until the second one came along 20 years later.
* Sega's ''[[House of the Dead]]'' series played off Romero's ''Dawn of the Dead'' series, including ''Typing of the Dead'' and ''Pinball of the Dead''.
** Well, that's for the side games only. The main series has always had [[Numbered Sequel
* The ''[[Star Wars]]: [[Dark Forces Saga|Dark Forces]]'' games have a strange number sequence. They start with ''Dark Forces'', followed by ''Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II'', then ''Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast'' and finally ''Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy''. [[Colon Cancer|Even worse]] when you see that LucasArts (and no one else) considers the full titles to all be prefixed with "Star Wars."
* The first sequel to ''[[Myst]]'' was called ''Riven: The Sequel to Myst''. Later games adopted a more conventional numbering scheme, resulting in ''Myst III: Exile'', ''Myst IV: Revelation'', and ''Myst V: End of Ages''. A spinoff also exists, which went through enough name changes between its development, release, the cancellation of its online component, the resurrection of its online component through GameTap and its second cancellation that it probably deserves its own trope. The last name it had was ''Myst Online: Uru Live''.
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** Originally, ''Hexen II'' was to be named ''Hecatomb'' - the trilogy's names was apparently decided by John Carmack himself. ''Heretic II'' is a sidestory unrelated to the larger Serpent Riders [[Story Arc]].
* Many game franchises were simply given the subtitle "3-D" for their first 3-D title. (As were quite a few that ''started'' around this time.) [[Third Is 3D|Even more likely if this also happened to be the third installment.]]
** One such series was ''[[Duke Nukem]]''. Continuing this, the title "[[
** See also: [[Super Title 64 Advance|64]]. [[Sarcasm Mode|Even more likely if this also happened to be the sixty-fourth installment.]]
* Apparently the English-speaking world ''needs'' their sequels to have subtitles. ''[[Shadow Hearts]] 2'', as it is called in Japan, was changed to ''Shadow Hearts: Covenant'' for the English version. The third game followed suit, and was called ''Shadow Hearts: From the New World'' in all versions.
** And let's not forget that they're all sequels to a game called ''Koudelka''.
* In the [[Unreal]] series, the second installment of the main line (after [[
* ''[[Splinter Cell]]'', as the picture above indicates, has some idiosyncratic titling. The series goes as thus: ''Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell'', ''Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow'', ''Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory'', ''Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent'', ''Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Essentials'' (which, despite the name, isn't a remake package with the original games), and ''Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction''.
** Though to their credit, they never tried to mix numbers in with their subtitles. Considering how the naming schemes of some other series turn out, that is probably a good thing.
** This was actually caused by [[Executive Meddling]]. Originally Chaos Theory was supposed to be the sequel to Splinter Cell and thus known as Splinter Cell 2. Pandora Tomorrow was only supposed to be an expansion pack to the original. When it was decided that Pandora Tomorrow would be a stand-alone title they released it without any numbering to avoid confusing people.
* ''[[Grand Theft Auto]]'', ''[[Grand Theft Auto]] 2'', ''Grand Theft Auto III'', then ''Grand Theft Auto: Vice City'', ''Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas'', ''Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories'', ''Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories'', and then ''[[Capcom Sequel Stagnation|finally]]'' ''Grand Theft Auto IV''.
** You missed "Grand Theft Auto: 1969", "Grand Theft Auto: 1961", "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and The Damned" and "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony." However, this naming convention has some sense; each numbered title started on a new engine9Until GTA V), while the rest were considered to be very large expansion packs. Each numbered title is also the beginning of a new story, with completely new characters, while games without numbered titles just act as prequels and reuse characters (so as to give them bigger backstories).
* The original ''[[Tomb Raider]]'' series consists of ''[[Tomb Raider]]'', ''Tomb Raider II'', ''Tomb Raider III'', then ''Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation'', ''Tomb Raider Chronicles'' and ''Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness''. The Crystal Dynamics [[Continuity Reboot]] of the franchise continues this trend, with ''Tomb Raider: Legend'', ''Tomb Raider: Anniversary'', and ''Tomb Raider: Underworld''. Then it was rebooted ''again'', with just "Tomb Raider".
* The ''[[Silent Hill]]'' series has ''[[Silent Hill]]'', ''[[Silent Hill 2]]'', ''[[Silent Hill 3]]'', then ''[[Silent Hill 4|Silent Hill 4: The Room]]'', ''[[Silent Hill Origins|Silent Hill: Ørigins]]'' (which is called ''Silent Hill Zero'' in Japan), ''[[Silent Hill
* ''[[Prince of Persia]]''. The first game was followed by the Sequel ''Prince of Persia 2: The Shadow and the Flame'' then ''Prince of Persia [[Third Is 3D|3D]]'' followed, when the series [[Polygon Ceiling|jumped to 3D]] and a new story was begun. Four years later came ''Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time'', starting a new story yet again, which continues in the direct sequels ''Prince of Persia: Warrior Within'' and ''Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones''. Then, the story resets again, with ''Prince of Persia'' in 2008, to be continued in another two sequels apparently, the first of which is supposed to be called ''Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands''.
** Per [[wikipedia:Forgotten sands|The Other Wiki,]] ''Forgotten Sands'' is actually an [[Interquel]] set in the ''Sands of Time'' 'verse, taking place between that game and ''Warrior Within''. The timing of the game's release and the cover art both suggest that this decision was made to make the game and the [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473075/ film] more closely related.
* The early ''[[Mega Man (
** While the games for the [[Game Boy]] shared the same names as the ones that were released for the NES (except the first one, which was titled ''Mega Man in Dr. Wily's Revenge''), there were not actually ports of their corresponding NES games, but remixed versions that combined bosses from the corresponding NES game with those from its succeeding installment (i.e. ''Dr. Wily's Revenge'' has bosses from the [[Mega Man 1
* Lampshaded in the fourth chapter of ''[[Tales of Monkey Island]]'', with a souvenir pin reading "Trial of the Century II: Electric Voodooloo".
** ''[[Monkey Island]]'' itself does this. The first game was called ''[[The Secret of Monkey Island]]'', then ''[[Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge]]'', followed by ''[[
* You would think ''[[Dragon Age]]'' would be going this way with the first game being called ''Dragon Age: Origins'' and the expansion being called ''Dragon Age: Origins: Awakening''. But nope, in a reversal of Michael Bay's thoughts, the devs opted to call the sequel ''Dragon Age 2'' just to make things less complicated on the audience.
* The ''[[Fallout]]'' series had been getting on just fine without the need for any if these fancy subtitles: ''Fallout'', ''Fallout 2'', ''Fallout 3'' and... ''Fallout: New Vegas''. Oh. There was also a game with different gameplay that didn't fit into the chronology called ''Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel'', and another, with yet a different style of gameplay, called just ''Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel'' with no "tactics".
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** Technically, the true sequel to ''Guilty Gear'' is ''Guilty Gear 2: Overture''...
* Ever wondered why the ''[[Leisure Suit Larry]]'' series jumped from III to V? After making III, series creator Al Lowe famously stated that [[Un Installment|there would never be a Larry IV]]. He kept his word. Kinda.
* After ''[[Dwarf Fortress]]'' retroactively sequelized to follow the defunct ''Slaves to Armok: God of Blood'', it is now ''Slaves to Armok: God of Blood Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress'', subverting [[Exactly What It Says
** Technically ''Dwarf Fortress'' is followed by yet [[Colon Cancer|another randomly subtitle]], ''Histories of <synonym of greed> and <synonym of hard work>'', ie. ''Slaves to Armok: God of Blood Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress: Histories of Gluttony and Determination''.
* ''[[Star Ocean]]'' games have ''Star Ocean'', ''Star Ocean: The Second Story'', ''Star Ocean: Blue Sphere'', ''Star Ocean: Till the End of Time'' and ''Star Ocean: The Last Hope'' (simply titled ''Star Ocean 4'' in Japan). The first two games were later remade under the titles ''Star Ocean: First Departure'' and ''Star Ocean: Second Evolution''. Not to mention [[The Anime of the Game]], ''Star Ocean EX'', which is apparently based on ''The Second Story''.
* There were actually two ''Wonder Boy III'' games. The first, ''Monster Lair'', is an [[In Name Only]] [[Shoot'Em Up]] sequel to the arcade version of ''Wonder Boy in Monster Land'', which has a different ending than the SMS version, while the second, ''The Dragon's Trap'' (''Dragon's Curse'' on the [[
* ''[[Contra]] Hard Corps'' was eventually followed by a "Contra"-less ''Hard Corps: Uprising''.
* The ''[[Total War]]'' ''Series'' is an interesting take on this, not only does it usually put the series name after the subtitle but it uses numbers and/or sub-subtitles for some games but not for others. In order of release the games go, ''Shogun: Total War'', ''Shogun: Total War: Mongol Invasion'', ''Medieval: Total War'', ''Medieval: Total War: Viking Invasion'', ''Rome: Total War'', ''Rome: Total War: Barbarian Invasion'', ''Rome: Total War: Alexander'', ''Medieval II: Total War'', ''Medieval II: Total War: Kingdoms'', ''Empire: Total War'', ''Napoleon: Total War'' and just to make the naming even more confusing ''Total War: Shogun 2''
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* In Japan, the ''[[Samurai Spirits]]'' games in general have their own [[Word Salad Title]] such as II being "Shin Samurai Spirits: Haohmaru Jigokuhen" (True Samurai Spirits: Haohmaru's Vision of Hell), III is Samurai Spirits: Zankuro Musouken (Peerless Sword of Zankuro), IV is Samurai Spirits: Amakusa Kourin (Amakusa's Advent), and V is actually known as "Samurai Spirits Rei" (Samurai Spirits Zero). It helps to know that the order of the main games (I-V) is V, I, III, IV, II. The two [[SS 64]] games take place after II, and Sen takes place after the 64 games.
* The Shin Megami Tensei series isn't exactly the most understandable in terms of naming, but Persona 2 was released as a duology, Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment, making Persona 3 and 4 the 4th and 5th in the series respectively
* ''Theme Park'' was [[Exactly What It Says
* ''[[
* The ''[[
* ''[[Assassin's Creed
* ''[[Gex]]'' was followed up by ''Gex[[Sequel Number Snarl|:]] Enter the Gecko'' and then ''Gex 3: Deep Cover Gecko''.
** In Europe, the later two games were titled ''Gex 3D: Enter the Gecko'' and ''Gex: Deep Cover Gecko'', leaving the ordering even more confusing.
* The [[Puzzle Game]] ''Tant-R'' had sequels named ''Ichidant-R'' and ''Sando-R''. "Ichidan" means "more" and "sando" means "three times."
* The ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha
* During the 90s, [[Electronic Arts]] released a series of helicopter-based shooters named the "Strike series". The series consists of ''[[Desert Strike]]'', ''Jungle Strike'', ''Urban Strike'', ''Soviet Strike'' and ''Nuclear Strike''.
* Not counting the [[Spin-Off|spinoffs]] Sonic seemed to make sense with ''[[
* The ''[[Mortal Kombat]]'' series started off with fairly standard numbering, even if it did switch from Roman Numerals to numbers between the second and third games, but it became more and more this trope as the series went on. The main games are: ''[[Mortal Kombat (
* ''[[New Super Mario Bros
== [[Web Comics]] ==
* Parodied in [
* Parodied in [http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=314 this] ''[[Hark!
== [[Web Original]] ==
* ''[[
** And ''Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective'', which was released as part of ''Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People''. Not forgetting the original, which was titled ''Dangeresque 1: Dangeresque, Too?'' and the prequel ''Dangeresque 0: The Prequel Begins''.
* ''[[Chaos Fighters]]'' has a few novels with such titles. ''[[Non-Linear Sequel|Chaos Fighters II]]'' is a major offender with subtitles ''Cyberion Strike'' and its sequel ''Chemical Siege''. However, it helps that the former is {{spoiler|the name of the final attack launched by the big bad of the novel}} while the latter refers to the chemical hollows which pollutes the city of Murio. Both titles are set as a [[Time Skip]] to the ''main series''.
* [[
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Mallow/Chris Griffin: [[Rambo]]
Mario: Rambo, ok it was Rambo, and then was Rambo 2, right?
Geno/Brian Griffin: Actually its full title is Rambo:First Blood Part 2
Mario:First Blood Part 2? That doesn't make any
Mallow: Yeah they should have called it Second Blood
Mario:
Geno: You mean how [[Call of Duty]] [[Modern Warfare]] 2 is actually Call of Duty 5?
Mario: Yeah, exactly. }}
**That Modern Warfare 2 is actually Call of Duty 6 and not 5 shows, intentionally or not, the pitfalls of this trope.
* From ''[[
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* In an [[Out of Character|OOC]] Q&A, [[Ben Drowned
== [[Western Animation]] ==▼
* The sequel to ''[[
▲== Western Animation ==
* Happened to ''[[The Transformers (
▲* The sequel to ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' was going to be called ''The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra''. Not only did it make no sense whatsoever because Korra isn't the last Airbender (she's not even a native airbender), it's a mouthful. Stranger yet, it was originally going to be called ''Avatar: The Legend of Korra'' (which would have made a lot more sense), but they had to change it due to legal issues with [[James Camerons Avatar|a certain movie]]. Prior to release, it was shortened down to simply ''[[The Legend of Korra (Animation)|The Legend of Korra]]''.
▲* Happened to ''[[The Transformers (Animation)|The Transformers]]'' in Japan; while ''[[Transformers Headmasters|Headmasters]]'' had sense, there's no excuse for ''[[Transformers Masterforce|Super-God Masterforce]]'' or ''[[Transformers Victory|Victory]]''. They did this very often, spawning no less than ''fourteen'' differently named series (not all televised, or even given fiction at all; Operation Combination is a toyline only, for example.) in Japan, though "only" seven in English-speaking countries.
* Played for laughs in ''[[Danny Phantom]]''. When the family temporarily get filthy rich, they move. Jack wants to call their new home "Fenton Works 2: This Time, it's Personal".
* ''[[
== Other Media ==
* [[CS Toys|CSToys The Alternatives]] is an oddly named [[Spin-Off]] of a live show done by a toystore in Japan.
* Microsoft ''Windows 7'' is an oddly numbered release. Since Windows 3.x, Microsoft abandoned the numbering system but released more than four iterations of Windows, including Windows 95, NT, 98, 2000, Millennium Edition, XP, Server 2003, Vista before returning to the numbering system with Windows 7. Even if we are selective in which editions we count as actual significant releases, the latest Windows should still be higher than the 7th major release.
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*** Actually, it would be NT 4.1 - NT was first released as ''3.1'', to match the version number of the regular Windows releases(the codebase had also started as ''OS/2'' version 3).
*** Maybe 7 was simply chosen because it is a deliberate lucky number in many states.
** Windows 7 was followed by Windows 8, then Windows 10 - with no "Windows 9".
* The Xbox, followed by the Xbox 360, probably to suggest equivalence to the PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Wii (at the time still known by its code name, Revolution).
** And of course the Nintendo series of consoles: Nintendo Entertainment System, Super Nintendo Entertainment System, Nintendo 64, Nintendo [[Game Cube]], and Nintendo Wii. And then there's the portables (Nintendo [[Game Boy]] Advance SP Micro [[D Si]] Lite XL?).
** Microsoft inexplicably decided to call the follow up to the 360 (and the third Xbox console) "Xbox One". This is a large part of why the "Xbone" nickname stuck.
* Similarly, try to figure out how old a camera is by model numbers. Sometimes these model numbers will change ''depending on what country the camera is being sold in''. Even for the more expensive Digital SLR cameras such as the Rebels, the 60D, and the 1DmkIV, the model numbers don't seem to do much to tell you the cameras' relation to eachother, aside from additional digits in the EOS model numbers implying that the camera is progressively cheaper (A few years ago, a Canon Rebel EOS 450D ran for about seven or eight hundred bucks. The Canon 1DmkII at the time ran for something close to ''five thousand'' dollars.)
** Canon's release scheme is: the more numbers in a name, the cheaper the camera (the 1000D or XS is the cheapest option, where the 1D is the most expensive); the higher the number in the series, the newer (20D is older than the 60D). The single-digit cameras are the top of the line pro-bodies with top of the line tech at the time of the release, many of which have had multiple iterations (7D; 5D vs. 5D Mk. II; 1D vs. 1D Mk. IV vs. 1Ds Mk. III)
* The [[
* After the Radeon 9000 series, ATI changed to card numbers beginning with X. When [[Direct X 10]] came around and ATI redesigned their chips from the ground-up, the numbering started at HD 2000 and went from there(meaning that unless this trope comes into play again, the upcoming Southern Islands generation will only have two letter to distinguish it from the original Radeons). Also applies to the names given to the GPU chips themselves: with the Evergreen/HD 5000 series, ATI dropped the rXXX chip naming scheme in favor of just using the development code names.
* The Palm pilot series of handheld organizers: "Pilot" "Palm Pilot" "Palm III" "Palm V" and ''then'' "Palm IV"
** Similarly, the Voodoo line of graphics accelerators also skipped 4 and then went back to it as a budget variation of the Voodoo 5 (and then there's the Voodoo Banshee).
* Desktop IBM and compatible computers. The early versions were named based on their Intel microprocessor chip [[Numbered Sequel|number]]: 8086 and 8088, followed by the 80186 (which almost nobody ever even heard of), superceeded almost immediately by
** 80286-80486 also came in "SX" versions, the SX being a cheaper (and less powerful) version - except that it was exactly the same chip, it just had some of the programming deactivated.
* Ubuntu uses a version name based on the year and month of release, with major releases every six months. This is then followed by an alliterative adjective-noun name with the first letters going up through alphabetical order for each release. For example, 10.10 Maverick Meerkat was released in October
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