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* [[Fighting Irish|Brawling, usually good-naturedly]], at the drop of a hat. This is a bit of a [[Forgotten Trope]]: the hair-trigger temper of Irishmen used to be a lot more common in stereotypes. See, for example, the Notre Dame University "Fightin' Irish", whose mascot is even a leprechaun with fists bared. Don't worry about Irish pub brawls, though—improbably, no one is ever injured.
** More darkly, there are startlingly frequent jokes about beaten wives, especially in American depictions for some reason. In Ireland itself, spousal abuse is treated no more casually than anywhere else in the West—perhaps less, considering that it was banned under the Brehon Laws that were used by Ireland for over a thousand years—and this stereotype is mostly unknown.
* [[Fiery Redhead|Red hair]] [[Redheaded Stepchild|all around]] and, if female, [[Green Eyed Red Head|paired with]] [[Green Eyes]]. It's true that Irish people are more likely to be green-eyed than most non-Irish people, but it's still not terribly common. See [https://web.archive.org/web/20111227063338/http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2008/12/nlsy-blogging-eye-and-hair-color-of.php this study] (admittedly based on Americans of European descent). Fairly few TV writers have heard of "black Irish", which is to say, Irish people with [[People of Hair Color|dark hair]]. (Some stories claim that they are descendants of Spanish Armada survivors or related to the Basque people, though genetic evidence largely goes against this.)
** Don't forget freckles and pale skin. This is closer to [[Truth in Television]]; Irish people tend to sunburn pretty easily.
** References to the "black Irish" do come up—but usually only as a punchline to explain a person with black ''skin'' and an Irish accent (similar to the terms Black British and its more PC cousin African American.) Every now and then it becomes clear the writers actually [[Critical Research Failure|think that's what the phrase means]].
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* ''[[Sons of Anarchy]]'': In some places averted, since the episodes of the show taking place in Belfast were obviously set in a big city, and were mostly about gunrunning. The only "farm" seen throughout the arc was used as a stash house and quickly blown up. The religious aspect (everyone's a Catholic) was played alarmingly straight, though, (Except for those members who were specifically pointed out as not being Catholic. "Two members of the charter are Protestants, one is the son of an Orangeman.") as was the IRA.
* Played for laughs in a sketch on ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' when [[Liam Neeson]] guest-starred in 2004, in a sketch called "Ya Call This A House, Do Ya?", a parody of speedy home improvement shows like ''[[Extreme Makeover: Home Edition]].'' "Buildin' Finn McQuinn" and his team sent Neeson's character down the pub while they basically moved furniture around and drank beers. It was [[Actually Pretty Funny]], mostly thanks to Neeson being a great sport.
* The 'Irish R.M.' had a series adaptation (actually very good, and this comes from a half-Irishman), which skits, parodies, plays seriously and generally messes around with pre-independence (late Victorian until 1910) Ireland - in the little Irish town of Skebawn everyone is either drunk, or about to sell you a dud horse. The only tune played is 'Haste to the Wedding', and Irishmen are either lovable scamps or ruffians. However, it is actually kind hearted - the Irish villains are non-existent, the most unlikable characters are English (e.g. Lady Knox), when set against an Irish 'villain' like Tom Sheehy or Slipper. One of the main characters is Irish (in the twinkly-eyed scamp tradition) against the English straight-man, shebeens, pig's trotters, poteen and the like is trooped out mercilessly, but it is not at all malicious - quote [Slipper the groom] 'The English and the Irish understand each other like the fox and the hound,’[Lady Yeates] ‘But which is which?’ [Slipper] ‘Ah well, if we knew that, we’d know everything!’. There is a Catholic Nationalist canon, and Roman Catholicism is skitted (the redoubtable Mrs Cadogan (pronounced kay-de-GAWN) is an example), but rather like Jeeves and Wooster, it avoids being offensive.
* Discussed in the ''Drink to Britain'' series of ''[[Oz and James]]''. While in Ireland, James criticizes what he calls "cod Oirishness" for the tourists, and taunts Oz with it when Oz claims to be part Irish; James thinks he's only doing so to make himself more interesting. It's hilariously subverted later on; when in a small village, Oz runs into a cousin who confirms Oz's mother actually is Irish, much to James's irritation.
 
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=== [[Comic Books]] ===
* Siryn, Banshee, and Black Tom in ''[[X-Men (Comic Book)|X-Men]]'' often lapse into this, depending on the writer.
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* The hero, Shamrock, from [[Marvel Comics]] is from Ireland and is the main hero there until she retired to become a hairdresser. Her power, likewise, is [[Winds of Destiny Change|luck manipulation]], which, in an origin that is both extremely badass in its source and somewhat less impressive in its execution, she gains by channeling the spirits of innocent victims of war.
 
=== [[FanficFan Works]] ===
* Seamus Finnegan gets turned into this in the ''[[Harry Potter (novel)|Harry Potter]]'' [[Fanfic]] ''[[Dumbledore's Army and the Year of Darkness]]''. Example: "Tell you what. You say one word, and I'll make it worth your while. I've smuggled in a bit of the real good stuff – Muggle-made Irish pure – and I'll slip you a tot. Or if you'd rather, I'll work my charms and score you a kiss from that lovely Miss MacDonald you've been castin' eyes at all year. What say you?" (DAYD, Chapter 11). He's at most 18 when he says that. Although, since the legal drinking-in-public age in the UK, where Seamus is likely from given that he goes to a school in Scotland, is 18, this is perhaps less unlikely.
* Molly O'Flannigan, {{spoiler|Yuki-Rin}}'s sister, from ''[[One Piece: Parallel Works|One Piece Parallel Works]]'', despite the fact there is no Oireland-type country in the ''One Piece'' world. A flashback during the Baleeira Porto Arc revealed that before {{spoiler|the Celestial Dragons killed Molly's parents and then forcing Molly into the Oxenstierna clan against her will}}, her parents owned a pub.
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=== [[Professional Wrestling]] ===
* [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]]: "His name is Finlay... and he loves to fight" (particularly grating as he was from, and was billed as such, ''Belfast'', in Northern Ireland!)
* [[Sheamus]], the "Celtic Warrior", who has the usual pale skin and has bright red [[Anime Hair]]. He avoids the usual dodgey Oirish accent though, when he's a [[Realistic Diction Is Unrealistic|bone fide Dubliner]].
** In fact, Sheamus specifically wanted to avoid the typical Irish stereotypes. The fact that he's Irish is usually not mentioned beyond the Celtic Warrior [[Red Baron]], and his characterization tends to lean way more toward what "Celtic Warrior" sounds like.
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