Older Than They Think/Western Animation: Difference between revisions

*** Of course, it you think that is [[Older Than They Think]], you need to take a closer look at the title of episode 7G03 from the first season, ''[[Incredibly Lame Pun|Homer's]] [[Odyssey]]''.

** [[Adam West]] was [[Adam Westing]] ''seven years'' before [[Family Guy]] premiered in "[http://youtu.be/SclZxoKyq24 Mr Plow]".

** ''The Velveteen Rabbit'' was slightly younger -- 1922 to Raggedy Ann's... call it 1918 -- but the doll predates the stories by a couple years. Seems older, what with the scarlet fever, and all.

*** "[[The Steadfast Tin Soldier]]" beats both of those, being first published in 1838.

* ''[[The Princess and the Frog]]'', featuring Disney's first black princess, has already been accused of trying to cash in on the Obama presidency. Anyone who follows Disney will remember this was on the drawing board years before Obama was nationally known, and the first teaser trailer was available before the Democratic primaries. Anyone with half a brain will know you can't just pop out a fully animated film, complete with merchandise and advertising, in less than a year.

** Another case of this trope in action. Disney's first black princess was actually Kida from ''[[Atlantis: The Lost Empire]]''. She was not added to the [[Disney Princess]] toy line was because the movie flopped. Of course, it's also a [[Ambiguously Brown|bit of a stretch]] to call her [[But Not Too Black|black]].

**** [[Crocodile Dundee]] referred to the black limo driver as a 'black fella' in the first movie and clearly isn't differentiating him from Australian Aboriginals in this.

* The American ''[[Darkstalkers]]'' cartoon featured a bespectacled boy named Harry Grimoire who was studying magic (and happened to have Felicia as a "pet"). This would've been an obvious rip of ''[[Harry Potter]]'', if not for the fact that the cartoon came out some years before.

* Most Disney fans assume that [[Mickey Mouse]] is Disney's first cartoon character, and Peg-Leg Pete was created to be his primary enemy. Actually, Pete was the ''very first recurring Disney character'', created in 1925 (before even ''[[Oswald the Lucky Rabbit]]'') for one of Disney's [[Alice Comedies]], a series of shorts which mixed live action and animation. Pete was always a villain, but the fact is that he was imported into the earliest Mickey cartoons to [[Rogues Gallery Transplant|give Mickey an established character to fight]], not the other way around.

** For that matter, most people don't know that Mickey was an [[Expy]] of Oswald...but even fewer know that Oswald himself was an Expy of [[Felix the Cat]].

* Now and then someone will accuse ''[[Thundarr the Barbarian]]'' of being a ripoff of ''[[He-Man and the Masters of the Universe]]'', despite the fact that ''Thundarr'' predates ''He-Man'' by several years.

** In fact, [[Hanna-Barbera]] produced both cartoons. Originally, He-Man was based off ''[[Conan the Barbarian]]'' but they opted to essentially turn the character into "the new Thundarr".

* In one episode of ''[[Recess]]'', Gus is involved in a plot against the Ashleys wherein he claims Ashley is also his name - insisting that it's not that unusual in the progressive 1990s. In reality, "Ashley" was almost solely a boy's name until the early 20th century; it was perfectly acceptable for a boy to be named Ashley ''over a hundred years'' before the episode was written or aired.

** One of the best known examples ''in pop culture'' would be Ashley Wilkes of [[Gone with the Wind]], a film consistantly put in top 10 lists.

*** Which was a best-selling ''book'' first.

* Here's one: [[The Pollyanna]] type in a place that is quite clearly [[Hell]], run by a creature that is quite clearly [[Satan]], who acts as a [[Corrupt Corporate Executive]]. No, not ''[[Jimmy Two-Shoes]]'', but an earlier show called ''[[The Baskervilles]]''.

'''Scooby-Doo''': (laughs) I don't get it. }}

* On a larger scale, a lot of baby boomers who grew up in [[The Sixties]], if they have no knowledge of animation history, will be surprised when you tell them that cartoons from [[The Golden Age of Animation]] such as ''[[Looney Tunes]]'' and ''[[Tom and Jerry]]'' were coming out in the 1930's and 40's, and were already decades old back when they remember watching the cartoons on Saturday mornings.

** My mom grew up in the 60s and thinks Bambi came out when she was a kid, and won't let me tell her otherwise.

* The expression "Cowabunga!" did NOT originate on ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]''. It was originally used on ''[[The Howdy Doody Show]]''.

* Judging from its sheer presence on the internet, it's a fair assumption that the ''[[My Little Pony]]'' franchise never caught on with males until ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'', but there were bronies (not that they ''called'' themselves that) back as far as Generation 1 - believe it or not, the G1 cartoon series usually dealt with boy-friendly epic fantasy adventures, not stereotypically girly fare. But since 4Chan wasn't around in [[The Eighties]], the male fans of the show didn't make themselves known as a significant [[Periphery Demographic]] until the latest series.

** The infamous "Rainbow Dash always dresses in style" quote is usually associated with G3.5 (as is the theme song the lyric appears in), but the quote - and the song - were actually borrowed from G3.

** The whole "Adult men enjoying a show for girls? It's the end times/turning point for masculinity/insert flimsy sociological viewpoint here" makes you wonder if everyone has forgotten [[Sailor Moon]] was originally for a similar demographic.

* ''"The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down"'' did NOT originate with ''[[Looney Tunes]]'', It even has its own lyrics that are different than the ones Daffy sing. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOg2wL9W_Vs Here is a link to a youtube video with people singing the (slightly modified for gender) original lyrics].

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