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* In ''[[Naruto]]'', {{spoiler|the title character is the son of the Fourth Hokage}} but none of the kids in his class are able to figure that out. Considering the Fourth Hokage's face is ''sculpted onto a mountain'', surely at least one kid would have made the obvious connection, considering that [[I Knew It!|it was blatantly obvious from the start]]. It might be argued that a few had figured it out and kept it a secret, but then why wouldn't they treat [[The Messiah|Naruto]] with more respect?
* In ''[[Naruto]]'', {{spoiler|the title character is the son of the Fourth Hokage}} but none of the kids in his class are able to figure that out. Considering the Fourth Hokage's face is ''sculpted onto a mountain'', surely at least one kid would have made the obvious connection, considering that [[I Knew It!|it was blatantly obvious from the start]]. It might be argued that a few had figured it out and kept it a secret, but then why wouldn't they treat [[The Messiah|Naruto]] with more respect?
** He is also said to have failed the final exams three times (and the exam at the start of the series is his fourth), but is in the same age group as others from his class (who are presumably taking it for the first time). This would mean he must have advanced through the earlier classes much faster than others (notably [[The Rival|Sasuke]] and even [[Arrogant Kung Fu Guy|Neji]]) and yet he is called a failure and a dropout.
** He is also said to have failed the final exams three times (and the exam at the start of the series is his fourth), but is in the same age group as others from his class (who are presumably taking it for the first time). This would mean he must have advanced through the earlier classes much faster than others (notably [[The Rival|Sasuke]] and even [[Arrogant Kung Fu Guy|Neji]]) and yet he is called a failure and a dropout.
*** An alternate possibility is that he was allowed to start school two years early, but that would still beg the question of 'Why? Usually only prodigies get to do that<ref>In-setting example: Kakashi was already in genin training when he was ''six years old''.</ref>, and yet Naruto doesn't remotely achieve like one during this time period.'
*** An alternate possibility is that he was allowed to start school two years early, but that would still beg the question of 'Why? Usually only prodigies get to do that,<ref>In-setting example: Kakashi was already in genin training when he was ''six years old''.</ref> and yet Naruto doesn't remotely achieve like one during this time period.'
** Further, if he did repeat the classes, he must have been in the same class as [[Arrogant Kung Fu Guy|Neji]], Tenten and Lee in the previous year, though they do not seem to know him much when they first meet.
** Further, if he did repeat the classes, he must have been in the same class as [[Arrogant Kung Fu Guy|Neji]], Tenten and Lee in the previous year, though they do not seem to know him much when they first meet.
** Now that it has been confirmed that {{spoiler|Both of Naruto's parents died very shortly ater he was born (maybe hours later)}} this begs the question: From that day to where the story starts, {{spoiler|who raised Naruto when he was too young to take care of himself}}? This is even made further confusing when it is mentioned several times that Naruto was treated like a pariah in his childhood and that people wouldn't even want to go near him.
** Now that it has been confirmed that {{spoiler|Both of Naruto's parents died very shortly ater he was born (maybe hours later)}} this begs the question: From that day to where the story starts, {{spoiler|who raised Naruto when he was too young to take care of himself}}? This is even made further confusing when it is mentioned several times that Naruto was treated like a pariah in his childhood and that people wouldn't even want to go near him.
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* A big plot hole occurs at the end of ''[[Alone in the Dark (2005 film)|Alone in The Dark]]''. The Xenos (the aliens that Carnby has been fighting for half of the movie) are supposed to be weak against light, but he and Cedrac are attacked by them in broad daylight after they emerge from underground.
* A big plot hole occurs at the end of ''[[Alone in the Dark (2005 film)|Alone in The Dark]]''. The Xenos (the aliens that Carnby has been fighting for half of the movie) are supposed to be weak against light, but he and Cedrac are attacked by them in broad daylight after they emerge from underground.
* ''[[Die Hard 2]]'': The terrorists hold the planes hostage in the air by shutting down the lights at Dulles Airport. Given the amount of time and fuel the planes are depicted as having, they could have easily made it to dozens of other civilian or military airports. Any of the '''three''' other airports in the DC area could have warned the airborne planes with their own non-crippled radio system and then the terrorist threat evaporates.
* ''[[Die Hard 2]]'': The terrorists hold the planes hostage in the air by shutting down the lights at Dulles Airport. Given the amount of time and fuel the planes are depicted as having, they could have easily made it to dozens of other civilian or military airports. Any of the '''three''' other airports in the DC area could have warned the airborne planes with their own non-crippled radio system and then the terrorist threat evaporates.
** Actually, the warning could have been delivered using ''any radio at all'' capable of transmitting on aviation guard frequency -- including the radios in any of the parked planes, handheld or vehicle-mounted aviation emergency radios, the radio at the police station used to talk to the police helicopter units, or possibly even a relatively advanced ham radio setup.
** Actually, the warning could have been delivered using ''any radio at all'' capable of transmitting on aviation guard frequency—including the radios in any of the parked planes, handheld or vehicle-mounted aviation emergency radios, the radio at the police station used to talk to the police helicopter units, or possibly even a relatively advanced ham radio setup.
** Given that the planes had sufficient fuel to loiter on station for 2-3 hours they had enough fuel to divert to ''Atlanta'', let alone someplace nearby like Boston.
** Given that the planes had sufficient fuel to loiter on station for 2–3 hours they had enough fuel to divert to ''Atlanta'', let alone someplace nearby like Boston.
* In ''[[Mind Hunters]]'', after repeatedly remarking that the simulation "doesn't feel real" without his gun, Vince pulls out and [[Dramatic Gun Cock|dramatically cocks]] a gun and he'd concealed in his wheelchair. All the other characters berate him for this, as they'd been specifically told not to bring weapons. However, just minutes earlier, Nic and LL Cool J's character can clearly be seen bearing handguns as they {{spoiler|carry JD's corpse.}}
* In ''[[Mind Hunters]]'', after repeatedly remarking that the simulation "doesn't feel real" without his gun, Vince pulls out and [[Dramatic Gun Cock|dramatically cocks]] a gun and he'd concealed in his wheelchair. All the other characters berate him for this, as they'd been specifically told not to bring weapons. However, just minutes earlier, Nic and LL Cool J's character can clearly be seen bearing handguns as they {{spoiler|carry JD's corpse.}}
* In ''[[The Fugitive (film)|The Fugitive]]'', Helen Kimble clearly tells the 911 operator that "There's someone in my house". As in, an intruder, not her husband. Yet the prosecution fails to notice this, and his defense lawyers fail too as well. At the very least, it would have provided the jury with reasonable doubt.
* In ''[[The Fugitive (film)|The Fugitive]]'', Helen Kimble clearly tells the 911 operator that "There's someone in my house". As in, an intruder, not her husband. Yet the prosecution fails to notice this, and his defense lawyers fail too as well. At the very least, it would have provided the jury with reasonable doubt.
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* In the remake of ''[[The Blob]]'', the titular monster can only be harmed by cold. A vehicle that shows up a few times through the [[Film]], a snow-maker, is eventually and quite logically [[The Protagonist|the protagonists']] best weapon. However, the vehicle also has a snow plow on the front. It projects new snow out in front of it, and then... plows through the snow. Trey Stokes, moderately known for the podcast Down In Front and puppeteer for the creature in the 1988 remake, admitted that the snow-maker exists in this snake-eating-its-own-tail manner ''specifically'' because [[the Protagonists]] will need it later.
* In the remake of ''[[The Blob]]'', the titular monster can only be harmed by cold. A vehicle that shows up a few times through the [[Film]], a snow-maker, is eventually and quite logically [[The Protagonist|the protagonists']] best weapon. However, the vehicle also has a snow plow on the front. It projects new snow out in front of it, and then... plows through the snow. Trey Stokes, moderately known for the podcast Down In Front and puppeteer for the creature in the 1988 remake, admitted that the snow-maker exists in this snake-eating-its-own-tail manner ''specifically'' because [[the Protagonists]] will need it later.
* In [[Fantastic Voyage]] there's a major plot hole in that the submarine (or the individual molecules which make up the submarine) do not grow back to their original size and [[Body Horror|gruesomely kill the patient]] at the end. Neither does the crew member who was killed and left behind. When writing the book, Asimov managed to fix these and some of the other holes.
* In [[Fantastic Voyage]] there's a major plot hole in that the submarine (or the individual molecules which make up the submarine) do not grow back to their original size and [[Body Horror|gruesomely kill the patient]] at the end. Neither does the crew member who was killed and left behind. When writing the book, Asimov managed to fix these and some of the other holes.
** This particular Plot Hole is parodied in a [[The Simpsons|Simpsons]] episode takeoff where the family has to save [[Big Bad|Mr. Burns]] {{spoiler|At the end, [[Idiot Hero|Homer]] is left behind and does grow back to size [[Body Horror|living inside Mr. Burns's skin at his full size]].}}
** This particular Plot Hole is parodied in a [[The Simpsons (animation)|Simpsons]] episode takeoff where the family has to save [[Big Bad|Mr. Burns]] {{spoiler|At the end, [[Idiot Hero|Homer]] is left behind and does grow back to size [[Body Horror|living inside Mr. Burns's skin at his full size]].}}
* ''[[Resident Evil Afterlife]]'': Alice somehow manages to land her plane on the roof of the prison in downtown Los Angeles, but we see beforehand that it is almost completely out of fuel. She barely even makes it to the roof, and then crash lands on it. Despite seeing this, the characters immediately start demanding that she fly them out of there, and one of them later steals the plane. Where did the fuel come from?
* ''[[Resident Evil Afterlife]]'': Alice somehow manages to land her plane on the roof of the prison in downtown Los Angeles, but we see beforehand that it is almost completely out of fuel. She barely even makes it to the roof, and then crash lands on it. Despite seeing this, the characters immediately start demanding that she fly them out of there, and one of them later steals the plane. Where did the fuel come from?
* In ''[[Spider-Man]] 2'', Harry tells Doc Ock that in order to find Spider-Man he must find Peter first. Doc Ock finds Peter with Mary Jane in the cafe and throws a car through the window straight at them. Any normal man would've been killed instantly, and Doc Ock doesn't know that Peter is Spider-Man. Given that Peter is his only lead on Spider-Man, it makes no sense that Doc Ock would effectively try to kill him. Near the film's climax, Spider-Man asks Harry to tell him the location of Doc Ock's hideout so he can save MJ and the city. Which Harry does. But how did Harry know where Doc Ock's hideout was in the first place? Doc Ock never tells him, and there's no evidence he's been keeping tabs on Ock.
* In ''[[Spider-Man]] 2'', Harry tells Doc Ock that in order to find Spider-Man he must find Peter first. Doc Ock finds Peter with Mary Jane in the cafe and throws a car through the window straight at them. Any normal man would've been killed instantly, and Doc Ock doesn't know that Peter is Spider-Man. Given that Peter is his only lead on Spider-Man, it makes no sense that Doc Ock would effectively try to kill him. Near the film's climax, Spider-Man asks Harry to tell him the location of Doc Ock's hideout so he can save MJ and the city. Which Harry does. But how did Harry know where Doc Ock's hideout was in the first place? Doc Ock never tells him, and there's no evidence he's been keeping tabs on Ock.
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* In ''[[Gears of War]]'', the Kryll are a swarm of flying piranhas that savagely attack ''anything'' that falls into darkness and consumes them in seconds. This is true of human and locust alike, only General RAAM can walk amongst Kryll without any damage and his means for doing this are never explained. In the DLC campaign "RAAM's Shadow" for ''3'' (chronologically earlier), normal Locust walk among Kryll just fine and indeed even RAAM's lieutenants are able to command the Kryll.
* In ''[[Gears of War]]'', the Kryll are a swarm of flying piranhas that savagely attack ''anything'' that falls into darkness and consumes them in seconds. This is true of human and locust alike, only General RAAM can walk amongst Kryll without any damage and his means for doing this are never explained. In the DLC campaign "RAAM's Shadow" for ''3'' (chronologically earlier), normal Locust walk among Kryll just fine and indeed even RAAM's lieutenants are able to command the Kryll.
* In the ''[[Dragon Ball]]'' anime and manga, Goku punishes Monster Rabbit for turning Bulma into a carrot and his [[Elite Mooks|two decorated mooks]] by using his Power Pole to send them to the moon, where they must make treats for a year. Eight months later, it gets blown up by Master Roshi. However, the video games state Monster Rabbit and his cohorts got off the rock and back to Earth beforehand... which gives way to the plot hole: '''HOW?!?'''
* In the ''[[Dragon Ball]]'' anime and manga, Goku punishes Monster Rabbit for turning Bulma into a carrot and his [[Elite Mooks|two decorated mooks]] by using his Power Pole to send them to the moon, where they must make treats for a year. Eight months later, it gets blown up by Master Roshi. However, the video games state Monster Rabbit and his cohorts got off the rock and back to Earth beforehand... which gives way to the plot hole: '''HOW?!?'''
* In the ''[[Mass Effect]]'' franchise, a plot hole is produced by the 'Deception' tie-in novel, which claims that the Illusive Man was indoctrinated by the Reapers decades ago. This directly contradicts the plot of Mass Effect 2, which has the Illusive Man going to unbelievable expense and a prolonged, years-long effort to save Shepard's life from the Collectors -- who he knows are are indoctrinated servants of the Reapers, and knows that they have orders from the Reapers to make absolutely sure that Shepard is dead. While an indoctrinated servant is capable of not consciously realizing they are indoctrinated, and capable of incredible heights of self-delusion and self-rationalization to try and avoid noticing that they are, whether aware or unaware they are simply not capable of directly opposing Reaper interests for longer than a brief moment -- and even that briefly only with titanic effort, with significant external encouragement, and with the prior conscious knowledge that they ''are'' indoctrinated.
* In the ''[[Mass Effect]]'' franchise, a plot hole is produced by the 'Deception' tie-in novel, which claims that the Illusive Man was indoctrinated by the Reapers decades ago. This directly contradicts the plot of Mass Effect 2, which has the Illusive Man going to unbelievable expense and a prolonged, years-long effort to save Shepard's life from the Collectors—who he knows are are indoctrinated servants of the Reapers, and knows that they have orders from the Reapers to make absolutely sure that Shepard is dead. While an indoctrinated servant is capable of not consciously realizing they are indoctrinated, and capable of incredible heights of self-delusion and self-rationalization to try and avoid noticing that they are, whether aware or unaware they are simply not capable of directly opposing Reaper interests for longer than a brief moment—and even that briefly only with titanic effort, with significant external encouragement, and with the prior conscious knowledge that they ''are'' indoctrinated.
** To be fair to the franchise, the video games themselves strongly imply that the Illusive Man was indoctrinated in between the events of Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3, which entirely fits the timeline. The problem only arises when you try to incorporate the expanded universe material.
** To be fair to the franchise, the video games themselves strongly imply that the Illusive Man was indoctrinated in between the events of Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3, which entirely fits the timeline. The problem only arises when you try to incorporate the expanded universe material.